The Clinton Trump Debates

[136 or 142]

Not to derail your economics discussion (it's interesting) but I believe the jump to 4k is to allow for more dual channel stuff like 3D, VR and AR. 4k (2160p) is 1080p X 2. 

Thanks. 

Virtual reality could be a genuine innovative breakthrough.  The rest sounds like pretty minor advances, except for AR, I don't know what that is.

[Dr. MD MD]

Thanks. 

Virtual reality could be a genuine innovative breakthrough.  The rest sounds like pretty minor advances, except for AR, I don't know what that is.

Augmented reality - blending the virtual with your actual environment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmdXJy_IdNw

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

I tried the Oculus Rift pretty early on, didn't really get the big deal.  Plus on a hot day it gets really sweaty and muggy.

[Dr. MD MD]

I tried the Oculus Rift pretty early on, didn't really get the big deal.  Plus on a hot day it gets really sweaty and muggy.

I've heard more people raving about the Vive than the Oculus.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/358040/

[136 or 142]

The Man Who Helped Give Free Trade a Bad Name Says His Research Was Misinterpreted

September 27, 2016By Liam Dalton0 Comments
Quartz: “Branko Milanovic, a Serbian-American economist whose work helped give globalization a bad name, wants to set the record straight on the merits of global trade. The problem isn’t trade itself, which overall is a force for good, he says. It’s that countries don’t design smart policies to help the losers adjust to a globalized world.”

“Milanovic and his colleague Christoph Lakner, both inequality experts, created “the elephant chart” (pdf) in 2012, which shows how incomes have changed in the past few decades… The data, which suggests that rich countries’ middle classes have lost out as global trade and globalization have ramped up, has been pounced on to explain populist movements.”

Milanovic: “Trade and globalization are forces for good. The problem is that in many instances globalization is implemented in a way that makes the playing field slanted in favor of the rich. Also the gains from globalization are never likely to be even for all the participants.”

[chefist]

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Define globalization, please.

[Zetaspeak]

I haven't been able to get online since the debate. What got me more than anything with the debate is all the memes and mocking Trump supporters had for Hillary, it oddly turns out Trump became victim of it.

Let's be honest, everybody was looking at Hillary to see if there's any sign of coughing, sneezing or lack of comfort (I am sure Noory would be all over it) but it turns out that Trump was the one sniffing and fidgeting through out as Hillary looked pretty calm and cool.

Then Trump had the best definition of "triggered" I've seen. He went on this Alex Jones style rant where he was all over place and went on and on and on as Clinton calmly just smiled. After going on a ridiculous confusing rant, like a second after he claims he has "amazing  temperament". He either has no idea what the word means, or somebody is his campaign tells him to be calm/temperament and instead of acting like it, he just says it out loud. 

But yeaaah if you going to get on Hillary for every cough on the big stage you CAN'T DO THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwFr3zGVvQ

[albrecht]

Define globalization, please.

It depends on one's position on it. Pro-globalists it means free trade, open borders, free flow of capital, expanding markets, etc. Anti-globalists (on the left and on the right:) mean loss of national sovereignty, exploitation of workers, complex "free" trade agreements giving more power in arbitration to unelected bodies that are corporately owned, loss of culture (expanding influence of American/Hollywood culture,) environmental damage, loosing jobs to outsourcing, etc.

[ItsOver]

I haven't been able to get online since the debate. What got me more than anything with the debate is all the memes and mocking Trump supporters had for Hillary, it oddly turns out Trump became victim of it.

Let's be honest, everybody was looking at Hillary to see if there's any sign of coughing, sneezing or lack of comfort (I am sure Noory would be all over it) but it turns out that Trump was the one sniffing and fidgeting through out as Hillary looked pretty calm and cool.

Then Trump had the best definition of "triggered" I've seen. He went on this Alex Jones style rant where he was all over place and went on and on and on as Clinton calmly just smiled. After going on a ridiculous confusing rant, like a second after he claims he has "amazing  temperament". He either has no idea what the word means, or somebody is his campaign tells him to be calm/temperament and instead of acting like it, he just says it out loud. 

But yeaaah if you going to get on Hillary for every cough on the big stage you CAN'T DO THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwFr3zGVvQ

Pretty good for someone who wasn't sophisticated enough to understand security classifications.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

WHY AM I NOT 50 POINTS AHEAD!?!  Yeah, some temperament.

[albrecht]

Pretty good for someone who wasn't sophisticated enough to understand security classifications.

Laws only apply to little people and super predators (as she calls blacks.)

[Rix Gins]

Let's be honest, everybody was looking at Hillary to see if there's any sign of coughing, sneezing or lack of comfort (I am sure Noory would be all over it) but it turns out that Trump was the one sniffing and fidgeting through out as Hillary looked pretty calm and cool.

Did anybody see Hillary take a sip of water during the debate?  I didn't, but I also dozed off here and there.  Pretty remarkable if she didn't need a drink of water during a ninety minute debate, I'll give her that. 

[RealCool Daddio]

Did anybody see Hillary take a sip of water during the debate?  I didn't, but I also dozed off here and there.  Pretty remarkable if she didn't need a drink of water during a ninety minute debate, I'll give her that.

Trump was guzzling something, caught on camera a few times.  Vodka to take the edge of the nose candy?

[albrecht]

Did anybody see Hillary take a sip of water during the debate?  I didn't, but I also dozed off here and there.  Pretty remarkable if she didn't need a drink of water during a ninety minute debate, I'll give her that.

I was listening, not watching so didn't notice. I thought she and her moderator won the debate though I see some people saying Trump won it because he didn't go full on bombastic, so might have changed people's mind who simply get their news from the pro-Clinton newsmedia/Hollywood. I can't find anything about Hillary's activities today. Is she recovering and resting from the arduous task of standing for 90minutes? I see Trump is having another rally.

[ItsOver]

Did anybody see Hillary take a sip of water during the debate?  I didn't, but I also dozed off here and there.  Pretty remarkable if she didn't need a drink of water during a ninety minute debate, I'll give her that.

She doesn't like water, remember?

[mikuthing01]

Did anybody see Hillary take a sip of water during the debate?  I didn't, but I also dozed off here and there.  Pretty remarkable if she didn't need a drink of water during a ninety minute debate, I'll give her that.

I was watching the Alex Jones stream for the lulz and didn't get a good look at any of it as it was playing on a screen behind Alex's fat head. I did hear Trump's breathing though his nose and thought damn that's a sensitive mic then went to democratic underground and seen RealCool Daddio posts about him using cocaine lol.

[albrecht]

She doesn't like water, remember?

I thought you'd be going with the wicked witch of the west idea of not liking water.

It is funny how Trump is still controlling the message- even in the Hillary campaign. I can't  find any scheduled events for today (he website though it not easy to navigate) so I assume she is convalescing, or getting a blood transfusion like the old guy in Being There, from having to stand up for 90minutes.
Note: even the Clinton campaign is focused on proving she has "stamina."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/newspapers-across-america-agree-hillary-clinton-was-the-winner-of-the-first-presidential-debate/

[ItsOver]

I thought you'd be going with the wicked witch of the west idea of not liking water...

I would have but, out of respect for the season, I didn't want to insult any of the coven-kind.

[Value Of Pi]

How is it that Trump made a deal where he had to call Hillary "Secretary Clinton" and she got to call him "Donald?" Like he was some punky fourth-grader.

This guy is going to be negotiating for the United States?

[136 or 142]

I understand you're unhappy because you were fired from your job at Falsify the Record, but it's nice to see you're still volunteering for them.

[albrecht]

I would have but, out of respect for the season, I didn't want to insult any of the coven-kind.

You are a gentlemen, sir. It is an insult to witches to be compared with Hillary, and especially hurtful during this season.

[ItsOver]

You are a gentlemen, sir. It is an insult to witches to be compared with Hillary, and especially hurtful during this season.

Well, not that much of a gentleman.  I fear we'll be hearing this refrain soon enough.

http://youtu.be/PW_02k7LRMo

[Astrid Galactic]

How is it that Trump made a deal where he had to call Hillary "Secretary Clinton" and she got to call him "Donald?" Like he was some punky fourth-grader.

This guy is going to be negotiating for the United States?

He did that to point the finger at her to remind the audience that she was, in part, responsible for some of the problems in our country. He set her up good early on asking if he may call her that. (Think that's how it went.) Once she agreed and raised her head like some self-possessed reining queen, he immediately moved in and ambused her about how various things were under her professional duties that she totally slacked on. My favorite part of the whole debate. Great strategic move! Just wished that he would have carried on with such command after the first 25 minutes.

[RealCool Daddio]

Just wished that he would have carried on with such command after the first 25 minutes.

He doesn't have the stamina, after the coke wears off.  Sad.

[ItsOver]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/27/newt-gingrich-trump-won-debate-dont-believe-intellectual-yet-idiot-class.html

"In fact, it is worth looking at a list of online polls to understand the gap between the elites and the vast majority of Americans. This list is long because I want to show you how willfully out of touch and dishonest the Intellectual Yet Idiot class is:

Time: Trump 55 Clinton 45

Fortune: Trump 53, Clinton 47

N.J.com (New Jersey): Trump 57.5, Clinton 37.78

CNBC: Trump 68, Clinton 32

WCPO Cincinnati: Trump 57, Clinton 37

Variety: Trump 58.12, Clinton 41.88

Slate: Trump 55.18, Clinton 44.82

WKRN Nashville: Trump 64.58, Clinton 35.42

Las Vegas Sun: Trump 82, Clinton 18

Fox5 San Diego: Trump 61.45, Clinton 33.69

San Diego Tribune: Trump 65, Clinton 35

If you go to the Daily Mail, you can see that the list goes on and on."

This said, I seem to recall someone named Romney creaming Obama in a debate, so I don't put a lot of stock in them.  Most people vote for how they "feel" about a candidate rather than in any careful assessment about a myriad of details from a debate or otherwise.

[Astrid Galactic]

He doesn't have the stamina, after the coke wears off.  Sad.

You're an idiot to go off on such fantasies. Like Hillary, it's not like he didn't provide real flaws to pick on.

[Value Of Pi]

He did that to point the finger at her to remind the audience that she was, in part, responsible for some of the problems in our country. He set her up good early on asking if he may call her that. (Think that's how it went.) Once she agreed and raised her head like some self-possessed reining queen, he immediately moved in and ambused her about how various things were under her professional duties that she totally slacked on. My favorite part of the whole debate. Great strategic move! Just wished that he would have carried on with such command after the first 25 minutes.

I'll bet you six of Art's nose hairs that this was all agreed in advance, since there was concern he would call her "Crooked Hillary." He was like, "Okay? Satisfied? Am I keeping the agreement?"

My guess is that Trump and his people plain forgot to demand that she call him "Mr. Trump."
So, she wisely went with "Donald."

I understand what Trump's plan might have been, but it backfired since she came off as the adult and he as little Donald, the fourth-grader.

[RealCool Daddio]

You're an idiot to go off on such fantasies. Like Hillary, it's not like he didn't provide real flaws to pick on.

I'll just leave this gem here:

Were those photos taken with the same camera? If so, with the same lens? I highly doubt it. Doesn't look like it. Believe me, I'm not a Hillary defender but you have to be careful with this sort of stuff. There are a whole lot of different sort of lens out that can subtly change perspectives in different ways, especially with better cameras.

Also, I've wondered this before and still suspect that she 'may' at times be wearing hipsters. No, not the snowflakes in Williamsburg. They are padded hip pants to help prevent hip fractures for adults who have tendencies of falling, and we all know she has physical stability issues. I can't tell though.

Maybe it's a double but I'm very much leaning towards believing it's not.

[Astrid Galactic]

I'll just leave this gem here:

Alright wise guy. Tell me how much you know about photography. The odds are that at least one of those photos was taken by some press photographer or one with a high end camera. It's not uncommon for them to use a lens that pulls in as much width as they can while looking somewhat natural. Heck, I've even seen different resolutions on some camera phones that will do similar things.

You clearly know nothing about photographic lenses and how they affect perspective.