Midnight In The Desert

[Lilith]

Um.  Brig, I meant listening devices.

Mission Understood SIR!!!

[comaphobe]

Does anybody have an updated M3U file to listen to DMDN? mine became 404 after I posted how I use that over their server sided heavy bulky dark matter player. Almost immediately, like literally the next day it became invalid. Does anyone know how to listen via my player of choice? The M3U shortcut to the live stream worked awesome on my end for 5 months until about a week ago. Now I can't even get the tune-in player to work, nor the DMDN, and both have different issues. I use my phone as an alarm clock so I don't want to use their app to listen to these 2 shows as one volume conflicts with another volume and makes my life a living hell.

[norland2424]

Does anybody have an updated M3U file to listen to DMDN? mine became 404 after I posted how I use that over their server sided heavy bulky dark matter player. Almost immediately, like literally the next day it became invalid. Does anyone know how to listen via my player of choice? The M3U shortcut to the live stream worked awesome on my end for 5 months until about a week ago. Now I can't even get the tune-in player to work, nor the DMDN, and both have different issues. I use my phone as an alarm clock so I don't want to use their app to listen to these 2 shows as one volume conflicts with another volume and makes my life a living hell.

this is the only stream left

http://50.7.76.254:8303/stream

[twiki]

I think it says a lot about the state and quality of the show and it's host when the entire night's thread is talking about beef and vegetables. Stick a fork in this show. It's done.

[Dr. MD MD]

I think it says a lot about the state and quality of the show and it's host when the entire night's thread is talking about beef and vegetables. Stick a fork in this show. It's done.

dibidibidibi

[Tinfoil_Helm]

That's nonsense.  First, "bias" is along way from pimping hardcore partisan views and concealing things that contradict them.  Virtually all the major media is under major corporate control and heavily filtered to keep the heat off the real power on Wall St.  AM radio, also controlled by giants like Premiere, is plugged with rightwing cheerleaders for divisiveness all day long in the big cities and half the day in small towns.  I'm not going to list them for you.  Have you ever listened to NPR or watched MSNBC long enough to get over fuming; so you can actually hear?  I listen to Fox News a lot, and (painfully) to Limbaugh. I read web sources like FT and AP.  Ever consider that reasonable people may have multiple news sources, and can judge things for themselves and aren't in an ideological headlock? And this old Reagan delegate will take what "liberal bias" is left over the hyper-partisan political sewage called daytime talk radio anytime or the vicious stuff FOX News peddles as informed opinion.  I watch O'Reilly almost every night and there is day that he doesn't pump some anecdote into a national crisis, or tell only one side of the story. BTW, do you realize that Ted Turner's been gone from CNN for 20 years, and CNN now is probably second only to Fox in conservative views. 

You're still hobbled to the crap that El Rushbo was pitching 20 years ago.  And see what it got you? The proof's in the pudding regarding the lurch to the right in media; 25 years after "the Conservative Awakening"  Americans are damn near ready to start killing each other over politics. But then there's Benghazi...

^^ Ding ding!  What he said. 

It's weird seeing so many irate White Wing folks always complain about how they get the shaft in the media but are the first to brag about how they have the best ratings, most viewers, etc.  So what it is, is the Right a victim of a conspiracy or are they the best news?  You don't get both. 

Like Palin who is always whinging about the media, yet she is all over TV and social media.  That asshole IS the media.

[VtaGeezer]

Has anyone heard a good explanation for the stone spheres in Costa Rica?

Archaeologists are pretty unified that the big ones found in Central America and Mexico were man-made.  Not hard to accept considering their stone-shaping skills for construction.  I've seen smaller spheres created in fast moving streams where a stone is trapped in natural basin and over time the abrasion and spinning action creates a sphere but I thinks its unlikely that natural forces could create any as big as the Costa Rican spheres.

[paladin1991]

Archaeologists are pretty unified that the big ones found in Central America and Mexico were man-made.  Not hard to accept considering their stone-shaping skills for construction.  I've seen smaller spheres created in fast moving streams where a stone is trapped in natural basin and over time the abrasion and spinning action creates a sphere but I thinks its unlikely that natural forces could create any as big as the Costa Rican spheres.

Interesting.  I've not seen spheres in fast moving streams.  I've seen stones worn smooth and flat, but never spheres.  Not calling BS here, just never seen it.  I see in my minds eye, how it could/can happen, but how much time does that take of lying there undisturbed in a perfect natural basin for that to happen?
Next outing, I am going look specifically for one of these.  The kids will love the hunt.

[GravitySucks]

Interesting.  I've not seen spheres in fast moving streams.  I've seen stones worn smooth and flat, but never spheres.  Not calling BS here, just never seen it.  I see in my minds eye, how it could/can happen, but how much time does that take of lying there undisturbed in a perfect natural basin for that to happen?
Next outing, I am going look specifically for one of these.  The kids will love the hunt.

Even a Google search for round river rocks doesn't really show spheres.

[VtaGeezer]

Interesting.  I've not seen spheres in fast moving streams.  I've seen stones worn smooth and flat, but never spheres.  Not calling BS here, just never seen it.  I see in my minds eye, how it could/can happen, but how much time does that take of lying there undisturbed in a perfect natural basin for that to happen?
Next outing, I am going look specifically for one of these.  The kids will love the hunt.

I didn't say I've personally seen the spheres in streams. I've seen them in displays and had some large river rock in my yard at the old house that looked spherical to the eye.  I've seen many circular basins in boulders while stream fishing and some were deep enough to be a hemisphere.  Nothing bigger than 12" or so.  I'm guessing it wouldn't take eons for a sphere to form under constant action; a couple years or maybe even months for small ones.

Edit:  If you look at the pics in your second post, there some stones that are spherical or close to it. Not saying they'd pass a micrometer test. My intent was to respond to the OP that the Costa Rican spheres are considered man-made; maybe man-finished would be more accurate. I found a number of pics of natural stone spheres. 

[K_Dubb]

I didn't say I've personally seen the spheres in streams. I've seen them in displays and had some large river rock in my yard at the old house that looked spherical to the eye.  I've seen many circular basins in boulders while stream fishing and some were deep enough to be a hemisphere.  Nothing bigger than 12" or so.  I'm guessing it wouldn't take eons for a sphere to form under constant action; a couple years or maybe even months for small ones.

Edit:  If you look at the pics in your second post, there some stones that are spherical or close to it. Not saying they'd pass a micrometer test. My intent was to respond to the OP that the Costa Rican spheres are considered man-made; maybe man-finished would be more accurate. I found a number of pics of natural stone spheres.

I remember seeing a documentary showing partially finished ones in the mountains.  Kind of like the Easter Island statues, takes all the mystery out of it.

[GravitySucks]

I didn't say I've personally seen the spheres in streams. I've seen them in displays and had some large river rock in my yard at the old house that looked spherical to the eye.  I've seen many circular basins in boulders while stream fishing and some were deep enough to be a hemisphere.  Nothing bigger than 12" or so.  I'm guessing it wouldn't take eons for a sphere to form under constant action; a couple years or maybe even months for small ones.

Edit:  If you look at the pics in your second post, there some stones that are spherical or close to it. Not saying they'd pass a micrometer test. My intent was to respond to the OP that the Costa Rican spheres are considered man-made; maybe man-finished would be more accurate. I found a number of pics of natural stone spheres.

Yep. I wasn't dissing you. I think they may occur in nature, but they seem to be small and rare. I have always been intrigued by the ones in Costa Rica. There are some that are quite large. I wonder what purpose they served if, in fact, they ade manmade.

[K_Dubb]

Here's the best documentary I've see on the subject.  Start at 39:56:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27085j_lost-kingdoms-of-central-america-3-between-oceans-and-empires_travel

[VtaGeezer]

Yep. I wasn't dissing you. I think they may occur in nature, but they seem to be small and rare. I have always been intrigued by the ones in Costa Rica. There are some that are quite large. I wonder what purpose they served if, in fact, they ade manmade.

The way they're found scattered around makes me think they may have simply been just mundane training yards for stone cutters. If you can cut a precise sphere, you can handle most most anything the king's architect throws at you. TV shows tend to focus on romantic or woo-woo explanations for these things.

[nbirnes]

Penniston made the plaster castings, not Halt, Bill.

I will make sure to talk about this with Bill. I confuse the players in this case and definitely need a refresher course. Thanks for pointing this out -- as well as a person on Twitter who wanted to make sure to clear up this fact: It was an ear on a mouse, not a bunny, as I think Bill said. It would be wrong to mess with bunny ears, certainly.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

... I've seen many circular basins in boulders while stream fishing and some were deep enough to be a hemisphere.  Nothing bigger than 12" or so.  I'm guessing it wouldn't take eons for a sphere to form under constant action; a couple years or maybe even months for small ones.   ...

I've seen those too VG, but never perfectly round, always w/ abnormalities or protrusions. I get your point though. I've also seen very round river stones. This happens most frequently when a stone is trapped in an eddy  behind a much larger rock in the river or stream w/ strong current. Usually the spring floods/ run-off will wash out these trapped stones so they really don't have time to polish down, but some can obtain a very spherical shape depending on conditions. I've never found a perfectly round one yet, though.

Today, this is what professional Lapidarists use to create stone spheres.     

These turn out perfectly round, like the Costa Rican spheres.

From:  http://www.lapidarymachines.com/sphere-bead_machines.shtml

For the DIY crowd out there, check this:  http://tomaszewski.net/Kreigh/Minerals/Homemade.shtml

[GravitySucks]

I've seen those too VG, but never perfectly round, always w/ abnormalities or protrusions. I get your point though. I've also seen very round river stones. This happens most frequently when a stone is trapped in an eddy  behind a much larger rock in the river or stream w/ strong current. Usually the spring floods/ run-off will wash out these trapped stones so they really don't have time to polish down, but some can obtain a very spherical shape depending on conditions. I've never found a perfectly round one yet, though.

Today, this is what professional Lapidarists use to create stone spheres.     

These turn out perfectly round, like the Costa Rican spheres.

From:  http://www.lapidarymachines.com/sphere-bead_machines.shtml

For the DIY crowd out there, check this:  http://tomaszewski.net/Kreigh/Minerals/Homemade.shtml

I think the giants that drew the Nazca lines lost their marbles.

[VtaGeezer]

I think the giants that drew the Nazca lines lost their marbles.

Winner!!!

[MikeJ]

^^ Ding ding!  What he said. 

It's weird seeing so many irate White Wing folks always complain about how they get the shaft in the media but are the first to brag about how they have the best ratings, most viewers, etc.  So what it is, is the Right a victim of a conspiracy or are they the best news?  You don't get both. 

Like Palin who is always whinging about the media, yet she is all over TV and social media.  That asshole IS the media.

Exactly!

[Auslandia]

Phrase of the night from Bill Birnes... "Sentient, sapient beings."  I don't know if sapient is even a word.  Maybe it is.

[Robert]

He's a famous sci-fi author, in his own twisted little mind. I'm hard pressed to think of any real, working sci-fi author that would use a stupid name like "sci-fi author" on a forum. He must live in a fantasy world.

Robert Blumetti writes sci-fi novels (plus fantasy & alt-hx) & uses e-mail addresses that include "scifi".

[Robert]

That's nonsense.  First, "bias" is along way from pimping hardcore partisan views and concealing things that contradict them.  Virtually all the major media is under major corporate control and heavily filtered to keep the heat off the real power on Wall St.  AM radio, also controlled by giants like Premiere, is plugged with rightwing cheerleaders for divisiveness all day long in the big cities and half the day in small towns.  I'm not going to list them for you.  Have you ever listened to NPR or watched MSNBC long enough to get over fuming; so you can actually hear?  I listen to Fox News a lot, and (painfully) to Limbaugh. I read web sources like FT and AP.  Ever consider that reasonable people may have multiple news sources, and can judge things for themselves and aren't in an ideological headlock? And this old Reagan delegate will take what "liberal bias" is left over the hyper-partisan political sewage called daytime talk radio anytime or the vicious stuff FOX News peddles as informed opinion.  I watch O'Reilly almost every night and there is day that he doesn't pump some anecdote into a national crisis, or tell only one side of the story. BTW, do you realize that Ted Turner's been gone from CNN for 20 years, and CNN now is probably second only to Fox in conservative views.

The vast majority of professional media, news & entertainment, tilts far to the "left".  The people who are attracted to that kind of work just tend to be that way, and once a lot of them tilt that way, their intolerance leads them to become gatekeepers & admit only those who are also like that.

You could not characterize CNN that way w an unbiased measuring stick, but you might be technically correct in that there's nobody but Fox on the "right" in that biz, & CNN is least strongly to the "left".  NPR is stultifyingly "leftist", & has gotten more so over time, relieved only briefly 20 yrs. ago when they saw where their bread was buttered.

I remember when talk radio did not tilt to the "right".  It seems their audience slowly gravitated rightward, so the biz followed.  It started that way with small outlets in the hinterland & spread to the big cities.  Most of it's still deadly dull & repetitive, but no worse than it used to be when talk radio had no discernible tilt.

The Internet leaned libertarian 20 yrs. ago but lost that cachet as it became more popular.

You're still hobbled to the crap that El Rushbo was pitching 20 years ago.  And see what it got you? The proof's in the pudding regarding the lurch to the right in media; 25 years after "the Conservative Awakening"  Americans are damn near ready to start killing each other over politics. But then there's Benghazi...

...where people actually were killed.

[Walks_At_Night]

Ostman is the guest tonight.  Heard him on Solaris Blueraven once.   They were not a good pair.  Heather should do better

[VtaGeezer]

...where people actually were killed.

I guess it doesn't bother you that the rightwing media has spent years pimping those four deaths for pure partisan politics (after being the cheerleaders for US military action against Kaddafi) but the same sorry asses could never muster outrage for the 4500 Americans sent to their death for the lies they pimped nonstop after 9/11.  Not to mention that interminable Republican committees for three years could find no wrongdoing or denial of support for the people in Benghazi by the govt as fabricated and pushed breathlessly by the right's media.  You can complain about left-leaning reporters but they mostly provide facts, unlike the lying, manipulating scum that has become the voice of conservatism.

[Jackstar]

I can't believe I'm paying taxes for this guy.

[GravitySucks]

I can't believe I'm paying taxes for this guy.

And Falkie too.

[Jackstar]

And Falkie too.

Oh, I can believe that.

[norland2424]

Tue Jan 12 â€" Charles Ostman â€" Technological Convergence
Posted on January 12, 2016 in Guests | 3324 Views | Leave a response

Website: www.historianofthefuture.com

Charles Ostman has 35+ years experience in the fields of electronics, physics, materials science, computing, various forms of applied AI, including eight years at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory at the University of California, Berkeley, and Los Alamos National Laboratory. Charles’ professional experience encompasses a diverse range of technical development projects at facilities including GTE Lenkurt, Integrated Automation, Litton Industries, Lucas Films, Phoenix Laser Systems, Omni Scientific Instruments, NanoThinc, Raytheon, Fujitsu, Evolutionary Networks, and a variety of other technology related companies and institutions.

At NanoThinc, a private nanotechnology consulting group dating back to the early to mid ’90’s, he was the director of media development, and also on the scientific advisory board. Charles was the co-founder of NanoSig, and chair of the NanoElectronics and Photonics Forum, an organization with the primary charter of facilitating investment in nanotechnology related ventures, and senior consultant with the Strategic Synergy Group.

He was also a senior fellow at the Institute for Global Futures, a consulting group which provides strategic research, analysis, technical due diligence, and related technology centric development services to Fortune 500 companies and institutions worldwide.

[Auslandia]

Conservatives have some good ideas but they have some intolerable cunts running things.

[trostol]

Mulder and Scully on Kimmel atm