The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[GravitySucks]

"...Our hourly rates ranges from $125 to $250 for one hour..."

So, if Fred Lundgren gives RCH the best rate ($125/hr) and the show goes 2 hrs/day, 5 days/wk, that's $1250/wk.

"...We require a 16 week contract with one month paid in advance..."

$1250/wk x 4/wks would be $5000/mo, up front.

Without advertising and if subs are $5.00/mo, it'll take 1000 subs to carry the monthly airtime overhead.

Yeah, I think it could work for Hoagy with the right marketing and advertising regimen (which has been somewhat lacking).

The 12AM PT time slot is a two-edged sword. One the one hand, it's limiting for call-ins and live listening but on the other hand it could enhance the sub rate due to access to archives for those that can't listen live.

The aggregate listeners (both live and subs) would need to be pitched to advertisers, emphasizing the repeatability of ad-spots in the subscriber archives (a 'bang for the buck' argument).

But first, the listeners have to grow, that's a heavy lift and will take a lot more effort than just 'if it plays, they will come'.

In November, he was bitching about having to pay Keith $1000 per month.

[Lilith]

My advice to Hoagie would have been to broadcast from UFOship.com   and put a donate button on his website.

[trostol]

yep the new site appears to be just a shell not up to date, even the club 19.5 link goes to the dark matter site...

lol he did say it takes time ti mirror things..which we can see didn't really lol but this is starting to get as hilarious as his show

[trostol]

Not only that, www.enterprisemission.com has gone tits up too. RCH too poor to pay his annual domain name fee?

Funny -- according to whois it's good through Dec 2017.

lol how does he lose his flagship site lol

[Lilith]

lol how does he lose his flagship site lol

I would have just attached the show webpage, to his flagship site, and called it the Richard C. Hoagland program, but that's just me.

[norland2424]

My advice to Hoagie would have been to broadcast from UFOship.com   and put a donate button on his website.

MV hates hoagie tho lol

[K_Dubb]

MV hates hoagie tho lol

He strikes me as one who appreciates irony, though, as well as ad revenue.  It sure looks doubtful to me whether Hoagie can make a go of it if he's paying those rates.  Hell, it'd be worth it just to get a "MV gave Hoagie a home" song from that guy.

Damn, I should have copied that song before his website went TU.

[Ciardelo]

Look what I found on Hoaxy's new website! lol I was looking for the fan music, but there are some freaky arts too!



Maybe Uncle Hoaxy is finally "getting it"

[Lilith]

Look what I found on Hoaxy's new website! lol I was looking for the fan music, but there are some freaky arts too!



Maybe Uncle Hoaxy is finally "getting it"

LOVE it!   

[norland2424]

He strikes me as one who appreciates irony, though, as well as ad revenue.  It sure looks doubtful to me whether Hoagie can make a go of it if he's paying those rates.  Hell, it'd be worth it just to get a "MV gave Hoagie a home" song from that guy.

Damn, I should have copied that song before his website went TU.

In one of the last few gabcasts MV said something around the lines that he wanted to " punch Hoagland in the face " , with that said im sure he would take his money tho lol.

[GravitySucks]

He strikes me as one who appreciates irony, though, as well as ad revenue.  It sure looks doubtful to me whether Hoagie can make a go of it if he's paying those rates.  Hell, it'd be worth it just to get a "MV gave Hoagie a home" song from that guy.

Damn, I should have copied that song before his website went TU.

Massah will you sell Hoagie in Georgia tomorrow?

[GravitySucks]

In one of the last few gabcasts MV said something around the lines that he wanted to " punch Hoagland in the face " , with that said im sure he would take his money tho lol.

He was going to take Hoagland's stalkers' money just to do a GABCAST.

[Richard Groyper]

Massah will you sell Hoagie in Georgia tomorrow?

Oh Lawd! Thasss racisss!

[21st Century Man]

Oh Lawd! Thasss racisss!

[Sandra Kristen]

I hope the new station is filled with wonderful braaps and other absurdity. Lets all have fun tonight.

[Richard Groyper]

Uh huh, show nuff, boss!

[norland2424]

I hope the new station is filled with wonderful braaps and other absurdity. Lets all have fun tonight.

You owe us all some cookies.

[21st Century Man]

Uh huh, show nuff, boss!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCND6VjXjAI

[Richard Groyper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCND6VjXjAI

LOL @ "Rockin' sockin' and Bebop-in"

Richard is so lazy!

[Lilith]

I hope the new station is filled with wonderful braaps and other absurdity. Lets all have fun tonight.

So Say We ALL! 

[K_Dubb]

In one of the last few gabcasts MV said something around the lines that he wanted to " punch Hoagland in the face " , with that said im sure he would take his money tho lol.

Yeah, I remember that.  Few things have the power to offend us more than our own reflection, as in a bad photograph.

To be equally unkind to myself, Heather's earnest fake-it-'til-you-make-it approach, coupled with self-righteous indignation when caught, makes me a little too uncomfortable for the same reason.

[Sandra Kristen]

You owe us all some cookies.

Oh I passed them out earlier! You didn't get one? Such a shame!

[Rix Gins]

I hope the new station is filled with wonderful braaps and other absurdity. Lets all have fun tonight.

I plan on tuning in (KCAA) a good ten minutes early to hear Heather say something like "Don't touch that dial, there are still two more hours of Midnight In The Desert to come."  And then after the top of the hour news or whatever, Richard comes on with his show.  Which begs the question, will this come as a surprise to regular KCAA listeners who were expecting the extra two hours with Heather, or have they been apprised of the change through program announcements made during the last week or two?   

[MV/Liberace!]

...Keith started charging him $1000 per month for bandwidth.

that's just retarded.  i'd like to know, IN WHAT UNIVERSE is hoagland using $1000 worth of bandwidth monthly?  just stupid.  keith obviously just wanted him to go.  actually, after the thing with hoagland's first producer blew up, i was told that they (art/keith) wanted to get rid of hoagland but they decided it would be better to just wait him out.  looks like they stuck to that strategy, with a little help from the $1000 bill per month.

[MV/Liberace!]

I've updated the first post in this thread with a link to hear Hoagland's show.  If anyone asks, just refer them to that post, please.  Thanks.

[Hog]

MV hates hoagie tho lol

But he loves diaper money.

peace
Hog

[GravitySucks]

that's just retarded.  i'd like to know, IN WHAT UNIVERSE is hoagland using $1000 worth of bandwidth monthly?  just stupid.  keith obviously just wanted him to go.  actually, after the thing with hoagland's first producer blew up, i was told that they (art/keith) wanted to get rid of hoagland but they decided it would be better to just wait him out.  looks like they stuck to that strategy, with a little help from the $1000 bill per month.

I may be misremembering, but I understood he gave him a free ride for several months to get his subscriber base in place before the charges kicked in. I don't think it was a surprise, I think what was the surprise to Hoagland was the number of subscribers he lost after he lost SaucyRossy.

I have no idea what it actually costs to stream the show live and then offer unlimited downloads of the archives to the subscribers. Hoagland called it bandwidth charges. If that was all Hoagland was getting charged for being on the network, then he was getting off cheap because Keith was having to support the show and manage the archives.

Kind of hard to speculate on what the entirety of the agreement was. Keith might have taken a cut from the subscribers as well. Not enough data.

[ShayP]

Look what I found on Hoaxy's new website! lol I was looking for the fan music, but there are some freaky arts too!



Maybe Uncle Hoaxy is finally "getting it"

LOL!  ...an RT original.  I'm surprised Hoagie shows anything with 'braaps' on it since he hates BellGab and those who once gave him some respect.

[ShayP]

I plan on tuning in (KCAA) a good ten minutes early to hear Heather say something like "Don't touch that dial, there are still two more hours of Midnight In The Desert to come."  And then after the top of the hour news or whatever, Richard comes on with his show.  Which begs the question, will this come as a surprise to regular KCAA listeners who were expecting the extra two hours with Heather, or have they been apprised of the change through program announcements made during the last week or two?

Hmmm....good question.

[ShayP]

I may be misremembering, but I understood he gave him a free ride for several months to get his subscriber base in place before the charges kicked in. I don't think it was a surprise, I think what was the surprise to Hoagland was the number of subscribers he lost after he lost SaucyRossy.

No.  I'm remembering it as you are.