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George Knapp

Started by ArtBellFan, April 27, 2008, 08:05:01 AM

BobGrau

PS - I'd like to point out that the guest (uh, whose name escapes me for the moment) deserves a lot of the credit for hitting this one out of the park.

Clearly... with how this show is being received, people are hungering from greatness. Knapp's show succeeded..

Wow, this one was out of the ballpark alright - just the right mix of creepy stories and good bumper music.  Really makes me wonder what happened to these people. Also makes me profoundly grateful that Snooron didn't handle the show or it would have been one conversation stopper after another when Simple George's morbid fascination with dead children and mutilated bodies kicked in.


And the guest definitely said "that doesn't fucking happen". Snooron would have had a case of the vapors for at least an hour, put on an old show, and hightailed it out early.



michio

 :) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought last night's show is a contender to go down as a Bell-esque classic.  Good host, good guest, good music (kudos to the nice lady who complimented Knapp on his enlightening musical commentary), and all of the ingredients we desperately miss on C2CAM with that other guy.  Most of us know how Noory is fond of calling a show a classic even before he's had one word with the main guest(s). I hates that.  >:(

Nebraska888

I sent this to Knapp today..........   Dear George,   It doesn't get any better than Sunday night!  What a heck of a Coast program!   Your interviewing skills are second to none.  I appreciated the step by step approach you utilized with Mr. Paulides.  First the audience was introduced to Mr. Paulides' early experiences that lead him to write his two books.  A thorough discussion followed concerning the commonalities/strangeness of the cases, the cover-ups by the upper echelon of the U.S. Game and Parks association,  and also helpful individuals Mr. P met while on his three year journey to research this phenomenon.  Finally, you skillfully took Mr. P and your audience through many cases of disappearances.  Never in a hurry to interrupt, or throw in your "two cents".....you would ask the questions that needed to be asked and quiries that your listeners were hoping would be asked.  No birdwalks!  Loved it!   You keep making your audience want more and more....that, in the end, is what a good program is all about.   K

HAL 9000

Quote from: BobGrau on March 26, 2012, 10:47:20 AMI just heard this (hour 4, about 08:30ish) - it could be "fuckin" or it may possibly be a fast "s'notgonnahappen".

Quote from: CoastCanuck on March 26, 2012, 04:47:59 PMI'm voting that the guest said "that doesn't fucking happen"  - I have streamlink - I played it 4 times and my husband agrees with me.

Quote from: UnscreenedCaller on March 26, 2012, 08:00:35 PMAnd the guest definitely said "that doesn't fucking happen".



Without question, the guest said, "That doesn't fuckin' happen... c'mon." See the attached mp3 for proof - I modified the clip to clean up the audio a bit, then added a few examples at normal speed, then a few clips at slightly slower speed, a group that's at an even slower speed, then back to normal.

He definitely said what y'all think he said. His phone connection dropped the ending of the word "doesn't," but otherwise, it is easy to hear the phrase quoted above.

   

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Zelig

Amazing... Have to agree.  Last night's show with George Knapp was one of the best I've heard in some time...

stevesh

Quote from: preston on March 26, 2012, 03:10:03 PM

... he only had 30 min of caller questions.


Reason enough in itself to worship the guy,

Just finished listening and I agree the Sunday night show on disappearances was a damn good one.

However, between Friday and Sunday nights I'm shocked at the level of callers the screeners pass through. Open lines are brutal nowadays.

Quote from: stevesh on March 27, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Reason enough in itself to worship the guy,

Yeah, no doubt. I was actually hoping he wouldn`t take any calls. Just continue on to the next weird case. Too bad it wasn`t a 5 hour show ala Art in the old
days.

WOTR

Quote from: FightTheFuture on March 27, 2012, 08:23:38 AM
Yeah, no doubt. I was actually hoping he wouldn`t take any calls. Just continue on to the next weird case. Too bad it wasn`t a 5 hour show ala Art in the old
days.
Right before the last break the guest started a story about travelling to visit the father of one of the kids who disappeared and who had not talked to media in decades.  I would have preferred to hear the conclusion of that story over the callers "it must be wolverines" and "it must have been mountain lions because I once saw one take down an elk."  Either the callers had not been listening to the previous hours of interview or they just wanted to hear their voice broadcast on AM radio.  Either way, I find myself wondering what the father had to say and what comments he had.  The only real upside is that the open lines portion was limited and the guest got the bulk of the airtime.


Too bad Knapp is on so rarely.  If he were regular weekdays I think he could bring that guest in every year or two for updates or to talk about past cases and be guaranteed an excellent show.  As it stands, I'm a little worried that Noory will try his hand and attempt to bring the guest on in the hopes of "and instant classic" (something he has yet to achieve in his decade of hosting...)

WOTR

Quote from: Paper*Boy on March 26, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
... so I'm a little surprised someone 'this good' gets such a response this time for putting out an outstanding show.  To read the earlier comments on this thread, don't his fans always think he does so?
I like Knapp overall.  He is the best of the current crop of hosts.  With that said, most of the topics he has are not really what I would consider "classic" material.  He might do a good job with most interviews- but the material and the guest play roles as well.  Even Art had some interviews that stand out from the rest (Coast used to advertise that they would send the "Father Martin" interview if you subscribed to some service... I assume that would be considered a classic and an outstanding interview by many.)


I honestly believe that the draw of this show is the mystery surrounding the deaths and disappearances and the fact that they are continent wide.  I'm not really a believer in little green men from Mars.  As such, if they had spent the show tying in the disappearances to aliens I would have been turned off; the radio probably would have been turned off.  I believe the key to this show was that you are free to let your mind go.  Want to believe it is aliens?  You can.  On the other hand, perhaps it is bigfoot, day walking werewolves, inter-dimensional beings, or a plain old serial killer.  For a short time (probably because I had read Douglas D's website a few days ago) I found myself wondering if the top people at the parks service were members of the occult and performing ritualistic killings in remote locations and covering them up.  The point is that you can work any theory or set of beliefs into this interview.  Heck perhaps a group has made a deal with a demon and...  Well, you get the point.


In short, Knapp handled the interview well.  This interview (or any others) does not automatically qualify him for Art's seat.  What it does, however, is demonstrate the distance between him and our regular host, Noory.  You can say that it is a great guest who made the show or the perfect subject matter and the host played a minimal role.  This may be true, but you can picture Noorys dead end questions, reading of his cue cards and not knowing a single story to discuss (having "forgot" to read the book).  The guest had not told the complete story at one point and I found myself wondering why that particular piece was brought up.  Knapp gently prodded him by saying "what about _____, didn't that happen as well?"  The guest responded with more details, expanded the scope of the story, and the interview was back on track.  A man prepared and knowing when to step in vs. a man who calls it in makes all the difference when you have such rich material to work with.

Nebraska888

Quote from: WOTR on March 27, 2012, 10:54:09 AM

Too bad Knapp is on so rarely.  If he were regular weekdays I think he could bring that guest in every year or two for updates or to talk about past cases and be guaranteed an excellent show.  As it stands, I'm a little worried that Noory will try his hand and attempt to bring the guest on in the hopes of "and instant classic" (something he has yet to achieve in his decade of hosting...)

Last night (Monday) was so excurciating I nearly screamed.  Did anyone notice how GN was attempting to emulate Knapp?  His guest was even dealing with a similar topic as Sunday night?  GN even stated that the program would be extremely frightening....FRIGHTENING?  HELL, THE ONLY THING FRIGHTENING WAS LISTENING TO NOORY REPEAT THE SAME INNANE QUESTIONS THAT LEAD TO NOWHERE!  I noticed the guest was a bit frustrated as well.  It is difficult to fathom, but I believe last night was one of Noory's WORST performances.  And, that's saying something considering he blows it nearly 95% of the time.
The email I sent to Knapp (see Monday's post) was also sent to:  Lisa, Tom, Tim, Dan, Ross, Stephanie, Lex, Ross....and Ian Punnett.  Do you think Lisa would ever forward these kinds of emails to the station owners?  I have sent bunches........Lisa sometimes responds with a wimpy:  Thank you for your concern.

aldousburbank

Quote from: Nebraska888 on March 27, 2012, 11:21:23 AM

....FRIGHTENING?  HELL, THE ONLY THING FRIGHTENING WAS LISTENING TO NOORY REPEAT THE SAME INNANE QUESTIONS THAT LEAD TO NOWHERE! 
This, and the fact that he created offspring.


Quote from: Nebraska888 on March 27, 2012, 11:21:23 AM

Last night (Monday) was so excurciating I nearly screamed.  Did anyone notice how GN was attempting to emulate Knapp?  His guest was even dealing with a similar topic as Sunday night?  GN even stated that the program would be extremely frightening....FRIGHTENING?  HELL, THE ONLY THING FRIGHTENING WAS LISTENING TO NOORY REPEAT THE SAME INNANE QUESTIONS THAT LEAD TO NOWHERE!  I noticed the guest was a bit frustrated as well.  It is difficult to fathom, but I believe last night was one of Noory's WORST performances.  And, that's saying something considering he blows it nearly 95% of the time.
The email I sent to Knapp (see Monday's post) was also sent to:  Lisa, Tom, Tim, Dan, Ross, Stephanie, Lex, Ross....and Ian Punnett.  Do you think Lisa would ever forward these kinds of emails to the station owners?  I have sent bunches........Lisa sometimes responds with a wimpy:  Thank you for your concern.
Bingo!  Thank you for backing up what my thoughts were exactly.  One day after the great Knapp show, Georgie Boy comes on with his own missing persons show.  Only, Norry tries to blame it all on aliens eating humans.  The quality difference between the two shows was like night and day. As the Norron himself says "There are no coincidences."  I guess he figured that since the Knapp show was so great that he would show us all that he could do it too.  Alas, poor Norron, he failed yet again.

Nebraska888

Quote from: SomeVelvetMorning on March 27, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
Bingo!  Thank you for backing up what my thoughts were exactly.  One day after the great Knapp show, Georgie Boy comes on with his own missing persons show.  Only, Norry tries to blame it all on aliens eating humans.  The quality difference between the two shows was like night and day. As the Norron himself says "There are no coincidences."  I guess he figured that since the Knapp show was so great that he would show us all that he could do it too.  Alas, poor Norron, he failed yet again.

I was actually embarrassed for Noory.  Glad you recognized Noory's sad attempt to emulate Knapp. 

morphiaflow

I'd bet a $2 bill that something approximating the following conversation has taken or will take place between an increasingly raised-voiced Noory and Tom/Lisa/Premiere/Clear Channel management:


Noory: Knapp is bringing down the tone of the show. He has to go.
Goon: What do you mean, George?
Noory: Look, he's just a bad fit. I don't want him in the roster anymore.
Goon: What about Sunday nights?
Noory: We'll give them to John. Just make it simple, let him have the weekends and keep me on the weekdays. We don't need Knapp.
Goon: Well, we have a contract--
Noory: Look, he goes or *I* go, understand? I want him gone. (increase histrionics ad infinitum)


Vary the words however you like; I've said for a long time that Knapp is the next to go, and I stand by that statement. And he's going to make that happen faster by continuing to do an excellent job. But of course, being the man of integrity I believe him to be, he will continue to do an excellent job to the end, even if he knows he's going out.


Noory is an insecure ego-hound who doesn't like being shown up. Ian is a nonentity at this point. Art is gone, Wells is a total tool, and Simone (who is actually less offensive than Noory or Wells) will do the occasional fill-in as a lark.


Anyone want to take the bet? I got a fresh crisp $2 bill right here.

Quote from: morphiaflow on March 29, 2012, 02:14:38 AM
Vary the words however you like; I've said for a long time that Knapp is the next to go, and I stand by that statement. And he's going to make that happen faster by continuing to do an excellent job. But of course, being the man of integrity I believe him to be, he will continue to do an excellent job to the end, even if he knows he's going out.
...
Anyone want to take the bet? I got a fresh crisp $2 bill right here.

As much as I'd love that $2 bill, I have to agree with you Morphia. I've also felt that an announcement is imminent, and I suspect Knapp's future with the show is already in jeopardy. Just a hunch.

WOTR

Quote from: morphiaflow on March 29, 2012, 02:14:38 AM

Anyone want to take the bet? I got a fresh crisp $2 bill right here.
Only two things keep me from taking that bet.  The first is that I would be unable to match your bet with a crisp $2 bill of my own.  You see, the Canadian government got rid of the paper $2 bill quite some time ago.  I would have to put a little round disk of metal against your bill and it just does not seem fair.


The other thing keeping me from taking the bet is that I believe that your are probably correct...

Morphiaflow, damnit you are probably right.







Marc.Knight

Quote from: guildnavigator on March 29, 2012, 07:26:11 AM
Morphiaflow, damnit you are probably right.


Get ready for a George Knapp quits Coast thread.

Quote from: M. Knight on March 29, 2012, 08:15:55 AM

Get ready for a George Knapp quits Coast thread.

Let's see, tinitus as an excuse has been taken...  Actually, I don't think Knapp would quit, somehow he's not as identified with George Noory and the show as Ian was, so he's just doing his thing and ignoring the rest.  He only goes if the Snoorge's fragile ego demands it.



Listening to George's show about disappearances in the parks - you were all right, this is a classic show recalling some of the best work Art Bell did.

I've complained about George and have not listened to his shows for probably a couple years, but may have to reconsider if this continues.  I was amazed to find his voice didn't sound dull or wooden this time either... come to think of it, Ian wasn't nearly as grating oir irritating when he put out the occasional great show either...

preston

Quote from: morphiaflow on March 29, 2012, 02:14:38 AM
I'd bet a $2 bill that something approximating the following conversation has taken or will take place between an increasingly raised-voiced Noory and Tom/Lisa/Premiere/Clear Channel management:


Noory: Knapp is bringing down the tone of the show. He has to go.
Goon: What do you mean, George?
Noory: Look, he's just a bad fit. I don't want him in the roster anymore.
Goon: What about Sunday nights?
Noory: We'll give them to John. Just make it simple, let him have the weekends and keep me on the weekdays. We don't need Knapp.
Goon: Well, we have a contract--
Noory: Look, he goes or *I* go, understand? I want him gone. (increase histrionics ad infinitum)


Vary the words however you like; I've said for a long time that Knapp is the next to go, and I stand by that statement. And he's going to make that happen faster by continuing to do an excellent job. But of course, being the man of integrity I believe him to be, he will continue to do an excellent job to the end, even if he knows he's going out.


Noory is an insecure ego-hound who doesn't like being shown up. Ian is a nonentity at this point. Art is gone, Wells is a total tool, and Simone (who is actually less offensive than Noory or Wells) will do the occasional fill-in as a lark.


Anyone want to take the bet? I got a fresh crisp $2 bill right here.
Good old George doesn't want the weekend shows to out do his.
in fact I am wondering if he may have had something to do with
Art bell leaving the show.

Ben Shockley

Commenting on what's truly "frightening" about Noory:
Quote from: aldousburbank on March 27, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
...the fact that he created offspring.
I know that there are some poor saps burdened with his surname, but do we know if any of them actually look like Georgie?  I mean~ the consensus is that Noory could botch a wet dream, so how could he possibly handle actual consummation?

Quote from: Paper*Boy on March 29, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
...I've complained about [Knapp] and have not listened to his shows for probably a couple years, but may have to reconsider if this continues. 
I salute you and your epiphany, Paper*Boy!  I knew you'd come around  ;D

aldousburbank

Quote from: Ben Shockley on March 29, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
Commenting on what's truly "frightening" about Noory:I know that there are some poor saps burdened with his surname, but do we know if any of them actually look like Georgie?  I mean~ the consensus is that Noory could botch a wet dream, so how could he possibly handle actual consummation?
Am I reading a subtle accusation here inferring Tommy as the biological paternus?

CoastCanuck

Last Friday night when Knapp substituted for Noory's night off, Knapp said he was pinchhitting for "my friend and colleague George Noory".  Just posting this statement for those who want to take a shot at interpretting it.

Quote from: preston on March 29, 2012, 02:05:46 PM
Good old George doesn't want the weekend shows to out do his.
in fact I am wondering if he may have had something to do with
Art bell leaving the show.


"Long live the hot air" made that pretty clear.

Ben Shockley

Quote from: CoastCanuck on March 29, 2012, 02:57:11 PM
...Knapp said..."my friend and colleague George Noory".  Just posting this statement for those who want to take a shot at interpretting it.

Contractual obligation?   Or, obliged at least to "positively acknowledge" Noory, with specifics left to the host.
Maybe Knapp is tossing us a heavily sarcastic hint with that word "friend."   You know, like sending the Morse code "t-o-r-t-u-r-e" by eye-blinking during a TV interview from a POW camp.

Nebraska888

Please.....I don't want to read that some of you think Knapp will leave Coast!  What a loss that would be!  For those of you who are "on the fence" about Knapp..........continue to listen to him.  Personally, he is my favorite host.

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