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Started by albrecht, June 21, 2014, 09:05:45 AM

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onan

Quote from: Jackstar on November 02, 2016, 02:18:56 PM


Or even relevant. What's all this strawmanning going to look like on your c.v.?




Bill Hicks, would beat the shit out of Alex Jones if he were alive. Really the weakest of your conspiratorial delusions.

Jackstar

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:21:24 PM
Really the weakest of your conspiratorial delusions.

Irregardless of your implicit, farcical attempt to assign ownership (see above, re: 'strawmanning'), that would not be a conspiracy, that would be art.

Meanwhile, back to those college transcripts. Doesn't that little wrinkle strike you as simply fascinating?

If not, why not? Show receipts.

Juan

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:11:04 PM
Yeah, no. and for your claim (which I believe) to be involved in the news biz, I would think you to be a bit more complete in your argument.
I'm on an iPad that won't let me post a link.  McClatchy Newspapers (a legitimate journalism organization) reported that two Clinton supporters pushed the Obama born in Kenya story. One was an Iowa local who was fired by the Clinton campaign. The other was Blumenthal.  Former McClatchy Washington bureau chief James Asher says Blumenthal told him the story personally.  The two met in Asher's office, and McClatchy subsequently sent a reporter to Kenya to check it out.  The reporter, of course, found it to be foolishness.

I'm old enough to remember air travel in 1961.  The very idea that a pregnant woman could travel between two remote locations - Hawaii and Kenya - is absurd.  Jet aircraft were rare and most were relatively short ranged at the time.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:21:24 PM
Bill Hicks, would beat the shit out of Alex Jones if he were alive. Really the weakest of your conspiratorial delusions.
I don't Bill smoked a lot and wasn't that healthy. Alex has gotten fat but due to his energy drinks he peddles might win the fight. Actually I could see them getting along, at least for a bit until Alex's ego would come out, because they have some common friends and share views on JFK, Branch Davidians/Waco, and various conspiracies. But you're probably right in material. I saw Alex do a sort of standup once and he wasn't bad but clearly modeled some of the material (like many other professional comedians do) after Bill's style. They would differ a lot on drugs, abortion, and religion also, which is why if true (I'm not claiming it is) the Bill Hicks is Alex Jones would be the best comedy prank ever!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:01:32 PM
No, but then again, no one has accused other presidents of not being a citizen. Just sayin, there may be a bit of an axe to grind.

Right. All this hoopa is just a bunch of birthers getting uppity. ::) :D

onan

Quote from: Jackstar on November 02, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Irregardless of your implicit, farcical attempt to assign ownership (see above, re: 'strawmanning'), that would not be a conspiracy, that would be art.

Meanwhile, back to those college transcripts. Doesn't that little wrinkle strike you as simply fascinating?

If not, why not? Show receipts.

Poorest deflection, ever, to your denial of your delusions.


albrecht

Quote from: Juan on November 02, 2016, 02:30:04 PM
I'm on an iPad that won't let me post a link.  McClatchy Newspapers (a legitimate journalism organization) reported that two Clinton supporters pushed the Obama born in Kenya story. One was an Iowa local who was fired by the Clinton campaign. The other was Blumenthal.  Former McClatchy Washington bureau chief James Asher says Blumenthal told him the story personally.  The two met in Asher's office, and McClatchy subsequently sent a reporter to Kenya to check it out.  The reporter, of course, found it to be foolishness.

I'm old enough to remember air travel in 1961.  The very idea that a pregnant woman could travel between two remote locations - Hawaii and Kenya - is absurd.  Jet aircraft were rare and most were relatively short ranged at the time.
Here is the article you mention:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html

For what it is worth Obama still hasn't provided an apostilled certificate of birth- the kind you need to obtain many things in most of the signatory countries to the Hague Convention (US is one.) It is weird. We are asked to just accept some digital copy. Try doing that to get a passport, work permit, residency permit, in most countries.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/judicial/authentication-of-documents/apostille-requirements.html
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/judicial/authentication-of-documents/office-of-authentications.html
https://www.hcch.net/en/instruments/conventions/specialised-sections/apostille

onan

Quote from: Juan on November 02, 2016, 02:30:04 PM
I'm on an iPad that won't let me post a link.  McClatchy Newspapers (a legitimate journalism organization) reported that two Clinton supporters pushed the Obama born in Kenya story. One was an Iowa local who was fired by the Clinton campaign. The other was Blumenthal.  Former McClatchy Washington bureau chief James Asher says Blumenthal told him the story personally.  The two met in Asher's office, and McClatchy subsequently sent a reporter to Kenya to check it out.  The reporter, of course, found it to be foolishness.

I'm old enough to remember air travel in 1961.  The very idea that a pregnant woman could travel between two remote locations - Hawaii and Kenya - is absurd.  Jet aircraft were rare and most were relatively short ranged at the time.

I'm aware the idea was presented. But it wasn't used in the Clinton campaign. If the argument is, it was talked about, ok. But that isn't the position presented.

onan

Quote from: albrecht on November 02, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html

For what it is worth Obama still hasn't provided an apostilled certificate of birth- the kind you need to obtain many things in most of the signatory countries to the Hague Convention (US is one.) It is weird. We are asked to just accept some digital copy. Try doing that to get a passport, work permit, residency permit, in most countries.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/judicial/authentication-of-documents/apostille-requirements.html
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/judicial/authentication-of-documents/office-of-authentications.html
https://www.hcch.net/en/instruments/conventions/specialised-sections/apostille

I just had to get my record of birth, it is the same format as Obama's.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:49:46 PM
I just had to get my record of birth, it is the same format as Obama's.
Yeah but try using it to get a work or residency permit in another country. Then it needs to be apostilled (which is sorta of raised seal in which the issuers signs over it*, sort of like a notary.)
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/judicial/authentication-of-documents/apostille-requirements.html

*https://www.hcch.net/en/states/authorities/details3/?aid=353

I know this because I had to get a copy for some official stuff and I was overseas with the normal paper copy you get easily but not the certified, apostilled copy per the Treaty. And it was a hassle, bureaucracy, and cost to overnight etc.

I think now that the new passports have the "chip" that some time soon all the paperwork for this kind of stuff will go away. If you believe C2C even WE will get a chip.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: albrecht on November 02, 2016, 01:46:12 PM

-note that Obama is going to campaign for Billary, again. Do you recall any Presidents being this much involved in the election of the next President?

Bush Jr. and Clinton were liabilities, so their lack of involvement is easily explained. Reagan didn't need to do much in 1988 and was somewhat tarnished as well.

How far back do you want to go? Where it makes sense for presidents to campaign, they do. Where it doesn't, they don't. Obama is popular now with the voters Hillary needs to attract.

pate

Quote from: Jackstar on November 02, 2016, 02:00:51 AM


I don't know what planet you are from Jackstar, but hear on Planet 'Murica you don't make no biscuits with sugar.

Jackstar

Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
Poorest deflection, ever, to your denial of your delusions.

I'm holding further aspirin factories in reserve in preparation for more of your witchery, Cultist.


Quote from: onan on November 02, 2016, 02:49:46 PM
I just had to get my record of birth, it is the same format as Obama's.

That might be relevant if your's read "African American," and was 'shopped, and was authenticated by someone who mysteriously died in a mysterious plane crash a few months after paying off their house mortgage in cash.


Quote from: albrecht on November 02, 2016, 02:57:14 PM
it needs to be apostilled

You and I are likely the only participants in this thread that know how to pronounce that.

pate

Quote from: Schlyder7 on November 02, 2016, 09:46:51 AM
Pieczenik is being interviewed on infowars right now.  likely be a video of it later.

Damn Commie Hippes, always trying to mess with our precious bodily fluids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY


albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on November 02, 2016, 04:07:21 PM

That might be relevant if your's read "African American," and was 'shopped, and was authenticated by someone who mysteriously died in a mysterious plane crash a few months after paying off their house mortgage in cash.

Pure coincidence. I forget the site or name (it was a weird name) but there is some lady who goes into detail about Fuddy and the crash and her cult Subud.

albrecht

Just days after claiming on a Hispanic tv network that Mexican food was her favorite food and her 2 year old granddaughter is learning Spanish to get votes (legal and illegal) Billary is now eating "Soul food" in Black churches to try to get the "super predator," as she called blacks, vote. No word if she will be using her fake black Southern accent.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-eats-soul-food-campaigns-churches-boost-lagging-black-turnout/


Kenyans will monitor our election. Because they experienced so much violence after Obama's cousin, or so the BBC and Odinga said, lost an election and encouraged ethnic and religious violence. Obama as a Senator campaigned for Odinga (which technically is illegal.)
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article112153927.html


Quote from: albrecht on November 02, 2016, 04:37:54 PM
Just days after claiming on a Hispanic tv network that Mexican food was her favorite food and her 2 year old granddaughter is learning Spanish to get votes (legal and illegal) Billary is now eating "Soul food" in Black churches to try to get the "super predator," as she called blacks, vote. No word if she will be using her fake black Southern accent.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-eats-soul-food-campaigns-churches-boost-lagging-black-turnout/


Kenyans will monitor our election. Because they experienced so much violence after Obama's cousin, or so the BBC and Odinga said, lost an election and encouraged ethnic and religious violence. Obama as a Senator campaigned for Odinga (which technically is illegal.)
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article112153927.html

Malik Obama believes in Trump!


albrecht

The "optics" of Hillary are so bad, and now even worse with the latest FBI and pervert Weiner stuff, that they are trotting out Obama increasingly. I'm not sure if the tax-payers have to pay for all these trips or if DNC/Billary/Foundation/ForeignBillionaires cover the expenses. Though I would rather have him waste his time, and tax-payer money, than do what he thinks is his job and create some new regulation or executive order. But it is laughable some of the lines:

" "If you disrespect women before you are elected president, you will disrespect women when you are in office," Obama said. He added: "Imagine what you'll actually do when you have to the power of the Constitution along those lines."
Where in the Constitution does being elected President mean you can disrespect women even more? Nobody, save maybe Bill thought that. I guess he is implying that Trump will act like Bill and Hillary and use Executive powers to make enemy lists, commit sexual harassment, cover up their crimes and skullduggery, etc?

And it is also humorous to hear Obama claim to like the country and even implore voters that the fate of the world rests on some NC voters! You know the country he loved so much that he wanted to "FUNDAMENTALLY change" and wouldn't even protect the borders.
""I hate to put a little pressure on you, but the fate of the republic rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering." "

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-north-carolina-2016-11

bateman

Quote from: albrecht on November 02, 2016, 04:56:54 PM
The "optics" of Hillary are so bad, and now even worse with the latest FBI and pervert Weiner stuff, that they are trotting out Obama increasingly. I'm not sure if the tax-payers have to pay for all these trips or if DNC/Billary/Foundation/ForeignBillionaires cover the expenses. Though I would rather have him waste his time, and tax-payer money, than do what he thinks is his job and create some new regulation or executive order. But it is laughable some of the lines:

" "If you disrespect women before you are elected president, you will disrespect women when you are in office," Obama said. He added: "Imagine what you'll actually do when you have to the power of the Constitution along those lines."
Where in the Constitution does being elected President mean you can disrespect women even more? Nobody, save maybe Bill thought that. I guess he is implying that Trump will act like Bill and Hillary and use Executive powers to make enemy lists, commit sexual harassment, cover up their crimes and skullduggery, etc?

And it is also humorous to hear Obama claim to like the country and even implore voters that the fate of the world rests on some NC voters! You know the country he loved so much that he wanted to "FUNDAMENTALLY change" and wouldn't even protect the borders.
""I hate to put a little pressure on you, but the fate of the republic rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering." "

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-north-carolina-2016-11

Hmm, if you take money from hostile regimes that abuse women, does that mean you'll do the same thing in office?

bateman

QuoteThe people familiar with the investigation said that senior officials had been informed weeks earlier that a computer belonging to former congressman Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) contained emails potentially pertinent to the Clinton investigation. Clinton’s top aide, Huma Abedin, shared the computer with her husband, from whom she is now separated.

... Comey and others felt there was enough information at that point to pursue a warrant, which would permit the investigators on the Clinton case to read the emails, officials said. They could not read them without legal permission because the emails had been discovered in the separate criminal probe involving Weiner.

When Comey and the officials decided to seek a warrant, they knew that would involve more people, both at the FBI and the Justice Department. Comey was concerned that the explosive information that they had to renew the Clinton investigation would leak out.

“It could not be done in secret,” an official with knowledge of the investigation said. “It’s a volatile subject and a major topic in the presidential campaign.”

But the overriding factor in Comey’s decision was that he felt he had to tell Congress what he was doing because he had testified under oath this past summer and “told Congress and the world” that the Clinton email investigation was complete, and now that was no longer true, an official said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-fbi-officials-were-told-of-new-emails-in-early-october-but-wanted-more-information-before-renewing-clinton-probe/2016/11/02/7884dede-a134-11e6-8832-23a007c77bb4_story.html




Dr. MD MD

Quote from: GravitySucks on November 02, 2016, 04:11:52 PM
https://youtu.be/bTBrDSeb2NQ

I feel like this is essentially the conversation we've been having with the shills here the past few months.  :D


=Schlyder=

LOL    I just saw that 11% of Americans believe Hillary is "honest and trustworthy" , while 14% believe in Bigfoot.    LOLOLOL

Goodness gracious, the Trumpster is closing in:





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