Steve Warner's Dark City

[ShayP]

http://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0

LOL!  His posture....hmmm....maybe emulating Chris Farley?

[trostol]

LOL!  His posture....hmmm....maybe emulating Chris Farley?

Mr Humphries, are you free?

[Element 115]

LOL!  His posture....hmmm....maybe emulating Chris Farley?

Hahaha it's the best.

[bateman]

LOL!  His posture....hmmm....maybe emulating Chris Farley?

That's exactly what it looks like. 

No motivational speaker will ever top Matt Foley.

[albrecht]

Reminds me of something Noel Gallagher said recently:

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/noel-gallagher-on-downside-to-independence/ar-BBr4mCY

Exactly. Also, per your other comments, you can actually, if done well, create a market by pissing people off or offending (I'm not saying go 'shock jock' or some kind of reactionary but people will also listen and call-in out of outrage as well as liking or questions- actually sometimes more so.) Hell for some decades whole controversial outfits like black power groups, communist newspapers, KKK etc survived because the subscribers were government intel outfits! (Not that I'm saying you go there....)

[GravitySucks]

You're alienating me just by your indecision. LOL!  No fear man.  If you're opinion pissed me off I'd still listen to you.  Just sayin. 

You listened to Hoagland. Until you didn't.

[trostol]

You listened to Hoagland. Until you didn't.

to be fair...bateman hasn't reached RCH's insanity level yet

[Element 115]

[Element 115]

That's exactly what it looks like. 

No motivational speaker will ever top Matt Foley.

Oh hells no, never.

[ShayP]

Mr Humphries, are you free?

I'm freee! 

[21st Century Man]

It's not so much an 'out' as it is not wanting to alienate listeners because I want to mouth off about some political issue or other.

So mouth off about it once in a while.  Talk radio desperately needs an infusion of young blood to woo brainwashed milennials.  I'd rather you did the paranormal/esoteric stuff but I don't see why you couldn't inject politics into the mix once in a while. If you don't want to touch on political issues then maybe wait until after the election.  You can take up a pseudonym and start fresh with none of the baggage of Steve W*****.

[bateman]

to be fair...bateman hasn't reached RCH's insanity level yet

[21st Century Man]

You've got talent, boy.  Don't waste it like so many of us do.

[trostol]

dinosaur show aside..when ya were doing a show you had a good variety..just keep at it..have a 15 minute mouth off segment when ever ya want and go from there..go all Grinds my Gears Peter Griffin...hell do movie and book reviews if ya want lol

[ShayP]

You listened to Hoagland. Until you didn't.

[ShayP]

to be fair...bateman hasn't reached RCH's insanity level yet

LOL!  It's a different kind of insane.

[bateman]

To clarify even more: I don't even come at political issues from an ideological point of view necessarily, I'm more interested in the process and the bigger picture, if that makes sense. For example, the censorship on Twitter doesn't rub me the wrong way because it's silencing conservatives - I'd be just as uncomfortable if it were silencing liberals. The issue for me is that a mega corporation that's claimed to promote free speech is using underhanded tactics to suppress messages they don't like, under the guise of tackling 'harassment', among other things. Funny, the rules only seem to be applied to those who hold a particular set of political opinions.

[trostol]

To clarify even more: I don't even come at political issues from an ideological point of view necessarily, I'm more interested in the process and the bigger picture, if that makes sense. For example, the censorship on Twitter doesn't rub me the wrong way because it's silencing conservatives - I'd be just as uncomfortable if it were silencing liberals. The issue for me is that a mega corporation that's claimed to promote free speech is using underhanded tactics to suppress messages they don't like, under the guise of tackling 'harassment', among other things. Funny, the rules only seem to be applied to those who hold a particular set of political opinions.

that pretty much sums up why i hate politics and do not involve myself in them lol

[Walks_At_Night]

No offense taken. To clarify a little bit - there are shows I've done in the past that aren't currently where my interests lie. Continuing down that narrow path would be inauthentic and would not make me happy, though it's clear there's an audience for it. Doing new things is going to alienate some people - it just is. Do I take that risk, knowing full well some people aren't gonna like it? Why screw up a good thing? There are plenty of bands that put out an amazing first album, decide they want to go in a new direction and experiment a bit, and the second album drops with a thud. The fans go "what the fuck is this, and why doesn't it sound like the first album??"

What kind of a proposed schedule are you considering?  If you are looking at a M-F show that's different than once a week or twice a month.  I'd assume you are toying with the old schedule.   In that case just do with what interests you.
If you touch politics you have to accept that 40-60% of the people are gonna think you're a tool.  That's just how it is but if that is what you wanna do then go for it man.  If I don't like it, I don't like it.   I won't listen and I'll think your a tool but you can't worry about that.  Just do what ya gotta do baby..............


M-F is a tougher row to hoe but I don't think you are considering that.   

[albrecht]

To clarify even more: I don't even come at political issues from an ideological point of view necessarily, I'm more interested in the process and the bigger picture, if that makes sense. For example, the censorship on Twitter doesn't rub me the wrong way because it's silencing conservatives - I'd be just as uncomfortable if it were silencing liberals. The issue for me is that a mega corporation that's claimed to promote free speech is using underhanded tactics to suppress messages they don't like, under the guise of tackling 'harassment', among other things. Funny, the rules only seem to be applied to those who hold a particular set of political opinions.

The angle I take is that people don't understand our rights and the difference between public and private (and the restrictions available depending on the situation.) And, the manipulation and changing ideas between it. (Many countries now even prohibit speech, display, and assembly of "bad things" in public or in private.) We don't BUT if a private company wishes to do so it is within their rights? Though, thinking on it, I would like to see if Twitter (or better Google since they got government seed money and do deals with gov't agencies) banned someone based on speech, race, politics, gender, etc. Because no longer a private entity (takes gov't money) so stuff would/should apply? Interesting lawsuit.

[bateman]

The angle I take is that people don't understand our rights and the difference between public and private (and the restrictions available depending on the situation.) And, the manipulation and changing ideas between it. (Many countries now even prohibit speech, display, and assembly of "bad things" in public or in private.) We don't BUT if a private company wishes to do so it is within their rights? Though, thinking on it, I would like to see if Twitter (or better Google since they got government seed money and do deals with gov't agencies) banned someone based on speech, race, politics, gender, etc. Because no longer a private entity (takes gov't money) so stuff would/should apply? Interesting lawsuit.

Of course they're within their rights to do so, but the problem is, they fucking lie about it. If they want to be a 'safe space' for one set of ideas only, fine, but be honest. Unfortunately, Twitter is so ubiquitous - there isn't really another service like it right now. Rest assured, it will be replaced, maybe sooner rather than later, but anyone in media is forced to deal with it to some extent for the time being. Twitter has usurped traditional media - a ton of people get their news from there these days, and it's partially because the news is coming from people who are right there on the scene and it's not being filtered through a corporate newsroom. Twitter figured out that they could hide things though - suppressing hashtags in 'trends', shadowbanning users they don't like so their followers aren't seeing their tweets in their feed, etc.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/757646858541989888

https://twitter.com/darkcityfm/status/755976785108533248

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

Good bumper music, good quality show, and let's face it, like you said there's not much competition in the genre so you'll be successful no matter what.  I for one would appreciate a show that isn't formulaic like the others out there so just do what you want.

[malliard]

Steve, you have to do what you want to do. If you try and force your self into talking about topics you dont want to talk about you will be as fake as those other ones...

Don't worry about the listeners, some will love it and some will hate it.. but if you like it, thats all that matters.

[albrecht]

And the answer is, of course they're within their rights to do so, but the problem is, they fucking lie about it. If they want to be a 'safe space' for one set of ideas only, fine, but be honest. Unfortunately, Twitter is so ubiquitous - there isn't really another service like it right now. Rest assured, it will be replaced, maybe sooner rather than later, but anyone in media is forced to deal with it to some extent for the time being. Twitter has usurped traditional media - a ton of people get their news from there these days, and it's partially because the news is coming from people who are right there on the scene and it's not being filtered through a corporate newsroom. Twitter figured out that they could hide things though - suppressing hashtags in 'trends', shadowbanning users they don't like so their followers aren't seeing their tweets in their feed, etc.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/757646858541989888

https://twitter.com/darkcityfm/status/755976785108533248

I understand, but MANY don't, look at the calls here at BG for claims of "MV cut me off" or "MV allowed this and that?" Dude, MV can do whatever he wishes, and so can his hosters (depending on TOS and contract) because it is a private site. But I get what you are saying and that is why I think it is interesting. When the "commons" or "public" exists only (or mainly) on the internet or social media than should the same rights apply? ESPECIALLY if they have received public funds, investment, tax-deals, or using public infrastructure?

This could be positive or negative though? Most countries, that don't observe freedom of speech will use the argument to regulate and stop speech. Much like the "old media" where editors (with ownership of or close relationships with politicians and large corporations would not publish. Or in countries where officially there is a standard of "what is ok.") Here, technically, it should 'open' expression but with so many desires for anti-hate, anti-bullying, conformity in public opinion, 'settled' science, and the political opinions of the owners of these sites left unchecked might be even worse. But, I say, if they receive public welfare (in any form) than they should be required to accept our laws and rights on their sites? Maybe? Pr at least acknowledge clearly. Now that the internet is going "worldwide" (in control in some aspects) where will the controls be? Take their rules? Some international body tells you what you can say on your show?

[bateman]

What kind of a proposed schedule are you considering?  If you are looking at a M-F show that's different than once a week or twice a month.  I'd assume you are toying with the old schedule.   In that case just do with what interests you.
If you touch politics you have to accept that 40-60% of the people are gonna think you're a tool.  That's just how it is but if that is what you wanna do then go for it man.  If I don't like it, I don't like it.   I won't listen and I'll think your a tool but you can't worry about that.  Just do what ya gotta do baby..............


M-F is a tougher row to hoe but I don't think you are considering that.   

Weekly schedule, and when subscriber numbers pick up, I can put out more content, whatever form that may take. M-F is something I'd almost never consider. The amount of money that would have to be thrown at me would need to be eye watering. I know how much work goes into a (quality) daily show and it's not something I want to undertake anytime soon. You barely have time to breathe.

Again, when I say politics, I don't mean yammering about ideology. It's bigger picture stuff. It just doesn't really fall anywhere within the 'genre'. Potential topics would be social media censorship, border/cartel war, terrorism, etc. Not Levin-style diatribes about Obamacare or anything like that.

Just thinking out loud here. I think I can make it work.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

The genre is about bigger picture stuff though, just that most shows out there choose to beat dead horses about paranormal topics that have been milked dry already. Art's talent was that he could make stuff interesting that, at first glance, you wouldn't be interested in and some of his more memorable shows were not even within the paranormal field.  He had that "bigger picture" mindset that tapped into the zeitgeist of his audience.  Nobody is ever going to be Art, but I do feel your show has similar appeal and so you don't need to talk about the same thing every week.

[21st Century Man]

To clarify even more: I don't even come at political issues from an ideological point of view necessarily, I'm more interested in the process and the bigger picture, if that makes sense. For example, the censorship on Twitter doesn't rub me the wrong way because it's silencing conservatives - I'd be just as uncomfortable if it were silencing liberals. The issue for me is that a mega corporation that's claimed to promote free speech is using underhanded tactics to suppress messages they don't like, under the guise of tackling 'harassment', among other things. Funny, the rules only seem to be applied to those who hold a particular set of political opinions.

Steve, that's great.  I tend to pigeonhole myself as a conservative but I do try to be objective and like to approach things that way.  Technically, I'm more of a classical liberal.  It gets confusing at times.  I don't believe in giving the right a free ride if they are wrong.  I call out Republicans if I think they are being dicks which most of them are.  I want people to think for themselves and think carefully about their positions.  If someone thinks I am wrong on a particular issue, I will listen to them and not shut them out.  I hate the political system we have now that is dominated by big money and big corporations.

[Étouffée]

The show's the thing; not the topic. 
"Life is a cabaret, old chum.  Come to the Cabaret."

It's just entertainment.
Come on Bateman, do it.

[Richard Groyper]

The show's the thing; not the topic. 
"Life is a cabaret, old chum.  Come to the Cabaret."

It's just entertainment.
Come on Bateman, do it.

Do the 'hustle?' Please let it be the hustle.

[Étouffée]

Do the 'hustle?' Please let it be the hustle.

That'll fit the paradigm.