Poll: Where do you stand?

[MV/Liberace!]

for years i sat here thinking my 2.75 inches were getting the job done. 


thanks for blowing up my world, jasmine.  thanks a lot.  well done.

[BobGrau]

I have to disagree with you there, Jasmine.  We men DO have a stake (pun intended?) in the matter.  Someone I was in a relationship with once had an abortion and didn't say a word about until after it was done.  That being said, I'm pro-choice.

If you disagree, you are obviously a eunuch.

[Ben Shockley]

...In reading this thread what stuck out most to me was the post that said the left-wing minority are more "shrill" than others.  I actually chuckled about that one.

"Shrill, over-the-top, unacceptable, going too far, suffering from mental illness and/or personality disorder, a forum ____ist ["bad" political label], complicit in the murder of tens of millions, deserving of execution"
      = Each ridiculous label a badge of honor indicating that you are forcing forum right-wingers to face something they have never faced before.

IMHO, it IS the Tea Bag crowd and the hatemongers on every radio station I can pick up that have set this nation at odds with itself.  Get rid of them and we can all sit down at the table again and work things out without shooting anybody...

Damn right, Scully.   Unfortunately, a lot of the right wing is already so far gone that they don't want any conciliation: that would be surrender to the godless heathens.  They're waiting and hoping for a violent social breakdown of this country, as obliviously confident as Mitt Romney on a Tuesday morning that "their side" will win the necessarily-ensuing, annihilative dialectical melee; longing for the chance --nay, the fulfillment of duty-- to kill the wrong-thinking scum they have been forced to co-exist with in this hopeless, demonically-imposed shithole of a "melting pot."
So good luck with the sit-down.

so... after about 4 days and 47 votes, the numbers are as follows...
53.2% say they lean left or are hard left.
46.8% say they lean right or are hard right.
the numbers don't lie.  i'm glad i put this poll up, because next time some fucking arse log sends me [a] private message crying about how conservative the forum is, i'll have something concrete and specific to point to...

Unfortunately, you'll be crowing about totally unreliable and invalid survey data: a subjective instrument applied to a self-selected sample, which is about as close to "lying numbers" as statistics can get.
All you can definitely state is that out of --how many account holders in here?-- exactly 25  fit unknown "criteria" for being politically "Left."   And if all you're using for that "determination" is that little nominal scale at the beginning of the thread --which applies no objective standard-- then you barely have that.   Twenty-five out of how many?   1,655?   Hardly a landslide.
But why let facts get in the way of (an attempt at) a good rationalizing retort?

by the way... conservatives NEVER send me "i'm leaving, huff huff" messages.  not once.  ever.  always liberals.

Of course the "conservatives" never leave in a bad mood!   Why would they?   You know: like why would a billionaire take his money out of the Cayman Islands?
And you're right: with a whole 25 potential allies out of 1,655, those "liberals" are morally-worthless pansies for not sticking it out and fighting their way over the fortified beaches, like every Real American should want to do with his/her online time.


Actually, MV, given how indignant and downright denying you've been before when I broached the topic of --let's call it an "asymmetry" in inter-user interactions here when political stances are involved-- I'm impressed that you cared enough to try to generate some data... such as it was.

Based on your presentation of forum history, it's only ever "liberals" who leave in a bad mood.   I'll be optimistic and presume that you meant "among those leaving who cite or reveal any disaffection with the political threads."
That's very counter-intuitive and should invite some reflection, when, according to your methods, this is a "majority left-leaning forum."
Among other things, it would almost necessarily suggest that, the smaller the proportion  of "conservative" users (i.e., the more accurate your assertion  that "conservatives" are a minority here), the more offensive the individual "conservative" users are likely to be.

[Jasmine]

I have to disagree with you there, Jasmine.  We men DO have a stake (pun intended?) in the matter.  Someone I was in a relationship with once had an abortion and didn't say a word about until after it was done.  That being said, I'm pro-choice.

And so right you are. Right, indeed. I officially retract my statement...for the record, your Honor. *Crossing my legs and swingin' em' whilst sitting on the witness stand*

If a guy were to do the same (say, because of her breast size or god forbid, weight), you'd have an instant man-hater.

Listen, you. The dames I know, the ones up in the Bronx...they're all man-eaters, honey.

for years i sat here thinking my 2.75 inches were getting the job done. 
thanks for blowing up my world, jasmine.  thanks a lot.  well done.

Better watch how ya phrase that one, mister. I got me a decent reputation in this town.

if you disagree, you are obviously a eunuch.

I dunno...he looks like a Sagittarius to me. And...a Number 4.

[BobGrau]

*Filing my nails* Thanks, mister. I'm one hell of a klassy dame...with a capital "K", darlin'.

Since I've finished filing my claws, Let me just file that one under...now...let's see...which file? Hmmm. Oh, yeah... Too Much Information. Second cabinet, bottom drawer. By the way, sir, your wife called. She wants you to stop off on your way home and purchase an extension...cord, a bicycle pump, and a measuring tape. Well, time for my coffee break. If you'll excuse me, honey, a gal has to do what a gal has to do. 

Kick a guy in the nuts, he is going to yelp. What happens if I kick back? Let's find out:

I hope your husband cheats on you, now that your ruined, post-natal last-piece-of-bacon-rind-in-the-bottom-of-the-grill gash is permananently gaping like a drunken hobo's toothless, dribbling grin. Size matters to men too y'know.

Thanks for reminding all at once how much I dislike and mistrust every single human being on this shitty planet where only physical attractiveness matters and everybody else deserves to be treated like shite.

[McPhallus]

In reading this thread what stuck out most to me was the post that said the left-wing minority are more "shrill" than others.  I actually chuckled about that one.  I have never once been strong-armed by another leftie (whether or not they knew my own position), but I have been taken to hell and back by the right-wing crowd, without my ever having uttered a peep.  And I mean that almost literally. Christians right-wingers (mostly relatives) tell me I'm headed straight to Hades unless I change my evil views.

IMHO, it IS the Tea Bag crowd and the hatemongers on every radio station I can pick up that have set this nation at odds with itself.  Get rid of them and we can all sit down at the table again and work things out without shooting anybody. (Except for my Texas relatives.)

That was in reference to this forum, not necessarily a general comment.  Those on the far left always seem the first to whip out the name calling and start screaming intolerance.  I've heard the right-wingers classified by more than one person as stupid rednecks. 

Point taken about the bible-thumpers, but I don't know anyone on this forum like that.  Actually, I can think of one person who's a good candidate for that category, but he doesn't post much.

[Jasmine]

Kick a guy in the nuts, he is going to yelp. What happens if I kick back? Let's find out:

I hope your husband cheats on you, now that your ruined, post-natal last-piece-of-bacon-rind-in-the-bottom-of-the-grill gash is permananently gaping like a drunken hobo's toothless, dribbling grin. Size matters to men too y'know.

Thanks for reminding all at once how much I dislike and mistrust every single human being on this shitty planet where only physical attractiveness matters and everybody else deserves to be treated like shite.

Me thinks someone is taking this all a tad too seriously? My replies to you are in jest. Do you comprehend? Do you understand? J E S T. May I kindly suggest that you R E L A X.

[BobGrau]

Me thinks someone is taking this all a tad too seriously? My replies to you are in jest. Do you comprehend? Do you understand? J E S T. May I kindly suggest that you R E L A X.

A classic female passive-agressive tactic. My comment was a joke, a joke based on a silly piece of word-play. Scroll back and read it, cos you obviously didn't get further than the word 'penis' the first time round. Rather telling, that.

Fuck politics as the big division in coastgab, I declare a Sex War!


PS the above was meant in jest, and anyone taking offense is obviously getting toooo uptight, duuuuddde...

[McPhallus]

Instead of lashing out at each other this way, we need a common diversion for our aggression.

Where's Fort Rock hiding these days?

A classic female passive-agressive tactic. My comment was a joke, a joke based on a silly piece of word-play. Scroll back and read it, cos you obviously didn't get further than the word 'penis' the first time round. Rather telling, that.

Fuck politics as the big division in coastgab, I declare a Sex War!


PS the above was meant in jest, and anyone taking offense is obviously getting toooo uptight, duuuuddde...

[BobGrau]

Instead of lashing out at each other this way, we need a common diversion for our aggression.

Where's Fort Rock hiding these days?

Yep, he's ugly and creepy. Fair game.

[Jasmine]

Instead of lashing out at each other this way, we need a common diversion for our aggression.

Where's Fort Rock hiding these days?

Never mind Fort Rock. Since the password of the day here is "penis", then as a diversion, may I suggest a box of Hostess Ding Dongs...and a bottle of red wine?

BobGrau, I'm rather dubious of your claim of jesting re your comment to me. If you make comments like the ones you made to me...cheating husband, etc., then may I suggest you adhere to Forum Postings 101, and add a  ...or a  ? Because if one reads that post, one certainly cannot ascertain the fact it was a comment made in jest.

Good day, sir.

[Nucky Nolan]

I have to disagree with you there, Jasmine.  We men DO have a stake (pun intended?) in the matter.  Someone I was in a relationship with once had an abortion and didn't say a word about until after it was done.  That being said, I'm pro-choice.

It's not just the father and the mother. There's a third life at stake in that equation. I will defend that human being's right to life with no hesitation. I don't care what other people think about it.

[BobGrau]

Never mind Fort Rock. Since the password of the day here is "penis", then as a diversion, may I suggest a box of Hostess Ding Dongs...and a bottle of red wine?

BobGrau, I'm rather dubious of your claim of jesting re your comment to me. If you make comments like the ones you made to me...cheating husband, etc., then may I suggest you adhere to Forum Postings 101, and add a  ...or a  ? Because if one reads that post, one certainly cannot ascertain the fact it was a comment made in jest.

Good day, sir.

No no, that one was absolutely serious.

I meant the one where I said 'I just want to make it clear that my penis has never aborted anyone. I didn't even know it could do that.'

You know... the one that you replied to? Or are you that much of an air-head that you don't remember?

Anyway, this is all off-topic. I started a new thread for you to exercise your 'right' to spout inverse-sexist elitist bullshit.

[Nucky Nolan]

so... after about 4 days and 47 votes, the numbers are as follows...


53.2% say they lean left or are hard left.


46.8% say they lean right or are hard right.


the numbers don't lie.  i'm glad i put this poll up, because next time some fucking arse log sends me this type of private message crying about how conservative the forum is, i'll have something concrete and specific to point to in the course of instructing him to place his complaints up his poop chute.


by the way... conservatives NEVER send me "i'm leaving, huff huff" messages.  not once.  ever.  always liberals.

At least, none of the hothouse flowers slam you on other forums. Oh, wait....

[nomobjustice]

Kick a guy in the nuts, he is going to yelp. What happens if I kick back? Let's find out:

I hope your husband cheats on you, now that your ruined, post-natal last-piece-of-bacon-rind-in-the-bottom-of-the-grill gash is permananently gaping like a drunken hobo's toothless, dribbling grin. Size matters to men too y'know.

Thanks for reminding all at once how much I dislike and mistrust every single human being on this shitty planet where only physical attractiveness matters and everybody else deserves to be treated like shite.

LMAO! Your sir are a goddamn poet!

[Jasmine]

No no, that one was absolutely serious.

I meant the one where I said 'I just want to make it clear that my penis has never aborted anyone. I didn't even know it could do that.'

You know... the one that you replied to? Or are you that much of an air-head that you don't remember?

Anyway, this is all off-topic. I started a new thread for you to exercise your 'right' to spout inverse-sexist elitist bullshit.

As I thought, your comment to me was serious. Hmmm. You meant those ignorant comments directed towards me, my husband, and my post natal physiology, when it was more than clear that I was replying to you in jest? Wow. My replies to the guys here, my interaction with them, is, for the most part (abortion stand aside) all in fun, and the last thing I would ever do to a forum member would be to make insensitive comments and insult them on a personal level. Obviously you wish to take this to a whole other level.  You're a serious head case; you obviously have issues, so do me a favour, will you? Fuck off, and never, I repeat, NEVER communicate with me on this forum ever again.

[Nucky Nolan]

Wallace was just another headline-grabbing wannabe despot, hijacking legitamite grassroots disgruntlement for his own personal gain. Fuck him, and mel gibson.

Mel Gibson is a Celtic propagandist and a Gaelic supremacist. This is coming from someone who's likely mostly Celtic. My forebears looked like the extras in "Braveheart", which was historical fiction that I definitely loved. BTW, how do you feel about my grandpa, Robert the Bruce?

[Nucky Nolan]

If a guy were to do the same (say, because of her breast size or god forbid, weight), you'd have an instant man-hater.

The boys and girls, in our old group, did that. The boys would kid the girls with small breasts. The girls would tell "Jasmine jokes" about the boys' richards. Our idea of fun made the worst flames in here look like snowballs by comparison.

[BobGrau]

As I thought, your comment to me was serious. Hmmm. You meant those ignorant comments directed towards me, my husband, and my post natal physiology, when it was more than clear that I was replying to you in jest? Wow. My replies to the guys here, my interaction with them, is, for the most part (abortion stand aside) all in fun, and the last thing I would ever do to a forum member would be to make insensitive comments and insult them on a personal level. Obviously you wish to take this to a whole other level.  You're a serious head case; you obviously have issues, so do me a favour, will you? Fuck off, and never, I repeat, NEVER communicate with me on this forum ever again.

Ooh, time of the month? I'm just subjecting you to the same trite, unimaginative patronising gender-based prejudice you attacked me with, out of nowhere. That's why I'm angry.

[BobGrau]

Mel Gibson is a Celtic propagandist and a Gaelic supremacist. This is coming from someone who's likely mostly Celtic. My forebears looked like the extras in "Braveheart", which was historical fiction that I definitely loved. BTW, how do you feel about my grandpa, Robert the Bruce?

I'm afraid it's my opinion that Robert the Bruce was a similar rabble-rousing petty warlord who was only in it for money and power.* He was your grandpa? You must be pretty damn old!

*A lot like Alec Salmond, come to think of it.

[Nucky Nolan]

I'm afraid it's my opinion that Robert the Bruce was a similar rabble-rousing petty warlord who was only in it for money and power.* He was your grandpa? You must be pretty damn old!

*A lot like Alec Salmond, come to think of it.

I'm one of those eternal Highlanders ("Who Wants to Live Forever?"). How dare you slur my ancestor, you scurrilous sassenach!

[BobGrau]

I'm one of those eternal Highlanders ("Who Wants to Live Forever?"). How dare you slur my ancestor, you scurrilous sassenach!

Sassenach?!?! Try a bit further north...

[Nucky Nolan]

Sassenach?!?! Try a bit further north...

Fake Scot? Hun planter from the Lowlands?

[BobGrau]

Fake Scot? Hun planter from the Lowlands?

Heheh Lowland teuchter fae aberdeenshire... commence sheepshagging jokes when ready...

I've felt the burn of scottish outrage towards the english - and eventually realised it's just dumb reflex. Half my best friends are english. We live on the same island and we've got along just fine for hundreds of years.
The crimes committed against the scottish people (ie the scottish poor) were as much the fault of other scots (ie the rich and powerful) as they were the fault of the english.
I'm very suspicious of the SNP types who want to fan the flames of some misguided nationalist nonsense just to keep their own gravy train warm.
If nothing else, saying what I just said in any pub in the land would get me my head kicked in. That fact alone does not exactly endear me to my fellows. That and my small penis, of course. 

[McPhallus]

FFRREEEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM

Heheh Lowland teuchter fae aberdeenshire... commence sheepshagging jokes when ready...

I've felt the burn of scottish outrage towards the english - and eventually realised it's just dumb reflex. Half my best friends are english. We live on the same island and we've got along just fine for hundreds of years.
The crimes committed against the scottish people (ie the scottish poor) were as much the fault of other scots (ie the rich and powerful) as they were the fault of the english.
I'm very suspicious of the SNP types who want to fan the flames of some misguided nationalist nonsense just to keep their own gravy train warm.
If nothing else, saying what I just said in any pub in the land would get me my head kicked in. That fact alone does not exactly endear me to my fellows. That and my small penis, of course. 

[Nucky Nolan]

Heheh Lowland teuchter fae aberdeenshire... commence sheepshagging jokes when ready...

I've felt the burn of scottish outrage towards the english - and eventually realised it's just dumb reflex. Half my best friends are english. We live on the same island and we've got along just fine for hundreds of years.
The crimes committed against the scottish people (ie the scottish poor) were as much the fault of other scots (ie the rich and powerful) as they were the fault of the english.
I'm very suspicious of the SNP types who want to fan the flames of some misguided nationalist nonsense just to keep their own gravy train warm.
If nothing else, saying what I just said in any pub in the land would get me my head kicked in. That fact alone does not exactly endear me to my fellows. That and my small penis, of course. 

I doubt that your small penis endeared you to the sheep, either. Seriously, I never bought the mutton-loving stereotypes. It seems like the poor Welsh are the targets of most of those lame jokes. A comedian could do a sixteen-hour set of routines on my ethnicity, so I feel the taffs' pain.

[Sardondi]

What.the.hell? 

I go away for a few hours to tend to some personal stuff, and when I come back....BAM!! And I don't mean Emeril Lagasse. How depressing.

[Nucky Nolan]

What.the.hell? 

I go away for a few hours to tend to some personal stuff, and when I come back....BAM!! And I don't mean Emeril Lagasse. How depressing.

For the record, I was kidding Bob. As for the arguments, I find them to be more humorous than depressing, in all honesty. Many people enjoy the fighting and fussing because it creates activity, and it's relegated to a forum. They just won't admit it.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

the only Scot i ever met face to face was in a London pub. he was nine foot tall and raging at me about sumthin to do with the Kennedys.
i learned verbal caution from a Scot that afternoon and as you see... live to relay it to you. 

[Sardondi]

the only Scot i ever met face to face was in a London pub. he was nine foot tall and raging at me about sumthin to do with the Kennedys....

He shouted out, "...