Art Bell

[ItsOver]

...Noory, Tommy, Hoagie and Art all deserve each other.

I'd throw in Streiber and Dames, too. 

[norland2424]

I'd throw in Streiber and Dames, too.

The poor bastard just needs someone to give him some astroglide lube.

[GravitySucks]

The poor bastard just needs someone to give him some astroglide lube.

Maybe he shoukd sleep with some of that sticky foam Pamela Menges was talking about last night so he could catch those little bastards.

[HumanBeing]

[WOTR]

Agree. Whatever happened to our grandparents generation's philosophy of "I do not agree with your opinion but I will fight to the death for you to have it." It's gone. Now we are all a bunch of special snowflakes who go to the ends of the earth to destroy someone who has pissed us off. It's disgusting.
I don't agree with DP's dragging Art's son into this mess. Lord knows Art has given us PLENTY of examples of how he plays with the truth and has the mentality of a 12 year old when someone makes him mad, without having to go THERE.

We still have free speech- though I do worry about the future.  You are free to say whatever you wish (unless MV decides you crossed the line.)  You may face people being pissed- but you can still say it (though some countries have laws against "inciting hate crimes"- which is a crock...)

Nowhere is my "right" to say that Art Bell is a man without flaws and a saint guaranteed to be met without criticism.  Nowhere is my "right" to question Art's decisions or truthfulness guaranteed to be met without criticism.  You still have free speech to question the words of others and make whatever statement you wish- but others have the same right.

As to our grandparents... Whatever happened to civility (genuine or feigned?)  I would argue that people feigned civility in many instances.  However, if you want to return to that time, I demand you call me "sir", laugh at my shitty jokes, smile when I speak with you, act with manners and be courteous at all times.  In addition, if you are under 18, I would remind you that children are meant to be seen and not heard.

Or, we can live in today's world where you still have free speech, and I will defend to the death your right to hold whatever opinion you wish, but will still continue to tell you what I think of those opinions.

[Freyja]

   

well if this network survives  Art may do a show here and there over January  and if no other incidents happens   those appearances may increase maybe   --- because im not sure why heather hasn't changed the bumper music yet  that shows me   we unfortunately are in a hold pattern

Not going to sit and wait if Art decides to do a show here or there.

If he can't either shit or get off the pot, I'm done with him.

Sure if I hear that he's back on the air somewhere, I will find a way to listen to his show...maybe.

I won't be sitting here waiting with baited breath when Art pulls his next strings and throws out more carrots.

No interest in what Heather does or hasn't...sorry.

[Mr. Fidget]

Someone ought to get doxxed how about me?
http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,1643.msg657365/topicseen.html#msg657365

Shaz

[ACE of CLUBS]

No interest in Art Bell anymore ....
Don't care what he does ....
Don't believe anything he says ...
Quit, don't quit ..... quit again, who cares ?
Art Bell drama is tiring, and repetitive .....
Wish him luck ..... like I'd wish anyone luck.

[WOTR]

If he can't either shit or get off the pot, I'm done with him.

I really don't feel like going back in your posts... But have you not been telling us how "done with Art" you are for at least the last two weeks?

[Catsmile]

It was more of the usual from RCH, shameless whoring and making passive aggressive digs at Heather and Art.
It also appears like has his 'friends' call in to prop himself up with accolades and to stir direction of the show.
It is compelling radio 
Noory, Tommy, Hoagie and Art all deserve each other.

They "get it."

Yup.

[lonevoice]

Hahaha I have 3 lawyers in my family.

I have a defamation lawyer on speed dial.

Art Bell has a strong case against DP.  The legal standard for libel has been met, including actual malice, which applies to public figures in some instances.  He’s done a smart job of laying the foundation for damages in this case.  A promissory estoppel argument could remove the shield of Section 230 immunity.  If DP has few assets, Art may consider a criminal complaint for cyberstalking, a Class C-3 felony in his venue, for which the required elements have likewise been met. 

Don’t ask me to explain it, I’m not a lawyer.

[cosmic hobo]

I really don't feel like going back in your posts... But have you not been telling us how "done with Art" you are for at least the last two weeks?

Can you hear that? That's the sound of Freya writing another long winded "I'm done with Art" post so she and her fellow trolls (yes Freya you've been trolling the whole MITD tenure) can all pat themselves on the back and +1 each other about how right they are about Art fucking up.

[bateman]

I have a defamation lawyer on speed dial.

Who's defaming Elvira? 

[GravitySucks]

Who's defaming Elvira? 

I think her and Morticia still have that thing going

[ItsOver]

Who's defaming Elvira? 

"Not me!"

[lonevoice]

Who's defaming Elvira? 

Give it a minute. 

[chefist]

Give it a minute. 

Oh Lone...good to see you here...hope you have been well, sweetie!

[Catsmile]

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Don’t ask me to explain it, I’m not a lawyer.

Ummm... okay.
I can at least agree with one thing you typed.

Everyone knows Art gets his legal advice from BellGab, which he quit twice now.
I reckon hes gonna hafta rejoin, so he can get a lawyer to start his case. :

[Value Of Pi]

Forget that he's trolling (by his own admission, no less), but consider his point that Art has kinda lied and bullshitted his way out of multiple gigs and taken his (pretty cool and supportive) listeners for a ride.  I think it's fair to call him on that, or at least ask, "Yo, what's up with this?"

And just in case any of this shit is true, I would feel bad for putting the screws to the old guy.  But GOD DAMN, there have been so many chances to clear the air about this and they (AB and Heather) have only made it more murky.

My point is, I've already considered "his point" because the same and similar points have already been made six ways from Sunday by an endless number of **legitimate** posters. Trolls rarely come up with an original idea or anything of value -- and even if one somehow did, I'd still tell them where to shove it just on principle.

They don't, as far as I'm concerned, deserve to be part of the conversation because, again, they're trolls (talking about the hardcore type, not the Disney type -- hello, rekcuf.) They have therefore forfeited certain Internet citizenship rights and privileges and chosen instead to join the Humongous and his band of road warriors in a nihilistic war of destruction on cyber-civilization.

So, in terms of how to comment on this thread or that, I'm suggesting that it's probably better to quote someone who's not a troll versus someone who is. (Same point, better source.) Someone who hasn't admitted to not only being a king-sized troll but a king-size asshole as well -- if there's a difference.

In other words, it's a point of order, as far as I'm concerned. And you know, we have no sergeant-in-arms to kick these pustules out, just MV. Not that there's anything wrong with MV.

[SciFiAuthor]

Give it a minute. 

They'll get bitch slapped by a fin if they even try.  :

[slippingaway]

Kinda fucked up to begrudge Art for taking his daughter out to see what might have been her first snowfall.  I don't care if it's the middle of the night or not. If Asia was really so traumatized then an impromptu midnight snowball fight at the Bell compound might be a good first step in regaining some sense of normalcy.  It's no Disneyland, but that little memory is powerful and I'm sure it won't be forgotten.

I understand Art's frustrations. Everything he does is under the microscope, and he's damned if he does/doesn't. 

If news came out that he was shot and killed, people would be trolling about how that's a lie too, that he took all his "fortune", faked his own death, bought a new identity, and is laughing his ass off a dimly lit condo from Manila.

I think this turd still does not get it! He has already proven he is a Cyber Stalker. I have come to believe he just might be my Stalker. He wants more investigation and he will get it. Anybody this consumed with trying to hurt me because I left a Radio show is suspect.

Art

Art's 2nd to last post shows a lapse in logic, either by quitting or wrapped within this post.

I thought he quit because the stalker said something to the effect of "quit or you and your whole family are dead." Now he's suspicious of someone being THE stalker because he quit.  So, wtf good did quitting do if Art still feels threatened? 

With all this happening on the heels of that pot show, I can't help but wonder if the biggest ill-effect of pot, paranoia, might be playing into it.

Security across 2 households must be an extra pain in the ass, but one can purchase a couple of network-accessible surveilence DVR's with 8 cameras each for less than a grand. Most 720p infrared cameras are good with low light for up to 100ft.

Art may never return to BellGab, but I pose this one question to him, if he does:

What kind of example does caving set for your daughter?

This is where I'm going with this: would Art let Asia drop out of school if she were bullied?  Would he let her quit her friends too because a mutual aquaintance was incredibly mean to her, even though most of those friends stood up to the bully? I don't know if that analogy makes sense, and granted, gunshots in the dark versus a bully at school is NOT apples to apples.  But there is a precident to be set here. 

Perhaps it's my youth, and the fact that I have no kids, that has me so pro self-defense. I've had my life threatened before, and it's because of this that I sleep with a loaded .45 colt beside me around the holidays. If one were to wake up one Christmas morning to thier house on fire, and frantically put it out before Fire Department could arrive, only to discover that propellant (likely gasoline) was splashed on the exterior walls, they might just raise their OpSec.

Art and I are way different, if I were in his position I would have got a "can" for my sidearm so I wouldn't disturb the neighbors if I had to take a shot in the dark.  This would have been after upgrading my cameras and motion lights.

[Tinfoil_Helm]

My point is, I've already considered "his point" because the same and similar points have already been made six ways from Sunday by an endless number of **legitimate** posters. Trolls rarely come up with an original idea or anything of value -- and even if one somehow did, I'd still tell them where to shove it just on principle.

They don't, as far as I'm concerned, deserve to be part of the conversation because, again, they're trolls (talking about the hardcore type, not the Disney type -- hello, refcuf.) They have therefore forfeited certain Internet citizenship rights and privileges and chosen instead to join the Humongous and his band of road warriors in a nihilistic war of destruction on cyber-civilization.

So, in terms of how to comment on this thread or not, I'm suggesting that it's probably better to quote someone who's not a troll versus someone who is. (Same point, better source.) Someone who hasn't admitted to not only being a king-sized troll but a king-size asshole as well -- if there's a difference.

In other words, it's a point of order, as far as I'm concerned. And you know, we have no sergeant-in-arms to kick these pustules out, just MV. Not that there's anything wrong with MV.

I feel ya. 

Kinda sad though that Art won't respond to any of his allies on here, but he'll interact with the troll.  Trolls get results!

[whoozit]

Time to go...

[trostol]

has any one realized..that there is about half dozen..to a dozen of the same people in here just going back and forth about nothing really while mostly everyone else has moved on to other parts of the site lol

[Value Of Pi]

The difference was that our grandparents would have had to make these pronouncements in public where they could receive a punch in the nose if things got out of hand.  The right to say what you want also includes calling an asshole an asshole.  Hiding in the anonymity of the Internet it is easy to say things you wouldn't to another's face.

Sorry to the previous nominee, but this right here is the post of the day. And time is running out to top it.

[Catsmile]

Kinda fucked up to begrudge Art for taking his daughter out to see what might have been her first snowfall.  I don't care if it's the middle of the night or not. If Asia was really so traumatized then an impromptu midnight snowball fight at the Bell compound might be a good first step in regaining some sense of normalcy.  It's no Disneyland, but that little memory is powerful and I'm sure it won't be forgotten.
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Getting shot at is always a very memorable event in ones life. Having your father shot in front of you I'm sure would make an impression at such a tender age. How normal that is however would be up for debate.

[Jackstar]

the zombiefied, slavish phantoms you regularly conjure.

Regularly? I haven't seen my ex in months.

The legal standard for libel has been met, including actual malice, which applies to public figures in some instances.  He’s done a smart job of laying the foundation for damages in this case.  A promissory estoppel argument could remove the shield of Section 230 immunity.  If DP has few assets, Art may consider a criminal complaint for cyberstalking, a Class C-3 felony in his venue, for which the required elements have likewise been met. 

Tits or... wait, wait. Carry on, actually, you're fine.

[Catsmile]

has any one realized..that there is about half dozen..to a dozen of the same people in here just going back and forth about nothing really while mostly everyone else has moved on to other parts of the site lol

Like on the RCH OSOM thread??
Yeah I did, your point? lol

[HumanBeing]

Regularly? I haven't seen my ex in months.

is there a chance for your ex to get early release on good behavior? 

[trostol]

Like on the RCH OSOM thread??
Yeah I did, your point? lol

yes but in the OSOM thread there is for the most part a common enemy...RCH lol