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Uncle Duke

Quote from: BellBoy on August 28, 2015, 05:26:28 PM
In just six weeks, Art already has an impressive number of top-notch "classics". He needs to consider offering at least a sample to the general public, if he wants anyone new to bite. Maybe the first hour, free on YouTube, daily or perhaps one full show a week... Give them a taste and they WILL come back for the whole pie.  8)

Just curious which MITD guests/shows you would recommend offering to the general public to entice them?  To me, the GIS show is a must for the EVPs, and the second open line show was very entertaining.  A hard science show should be offered, but I can't pick one specific show without reviewing them. I'd also do a paranormal experience open lines show expressly for the purpose of releasing it.
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AppealPlay

Quote from: Uncle Duke on August 28, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Just curious which MITD guests/shows you would recommend offering to the general public to entice them?  To me, the GIS show is a must for the EVPs, and the second open line show was very entertaining.  A hard science show should be offered, but I can't pick one specific show without reviewing them. I'd also do a paranormal experience open lines show expressly for the purpose of releasing it.
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I thought the Andy Basiago show was the most entertaining MITD to date.  He was so masterful with his bullshit.  It was like listening to an artist work.  The flat Earth show was entertaining for how contentious and awkward it was (that poor Harvard guy - oof!).  Travis Walton's appearance was really, really good and unlike his previous interviews.  The geologist from Hawaii was cool, too, so that would be a good sciency show.  The TWA 800 show was interesting not so much for their theory as we've all heard the conspiracies many times before but I was unaware of the Federal crimes committed by Jim Sanders.

Now that I think of it there have been a number of really good MITD shows already!

sorefinger

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 06:22:43 PM

So, for those who listened to the entire show....what did you learn about "longevity"? Did you do anything with what you heard to research anything further? ...just saying....

I've been practicing longevity throughout my entire adult life.  This much I know: If you are not into nutrition, you will never live long enough to collect your first Social Security check, not in this world where the food chain is laced with thousands of chemical toxins, not memtioning severely deficient in vital nutrients.  And if you're lucky enough to make it that far, you won't do it without some major diseases along the way.  Heart disease, for example, is a 100% preventable disease, which has nothing to do with genes but everything to do with nutrition or, put better, malnutrition. 

This prompts me to think of the Health Ranger, Mike Adams, who would be an excellent guest for mitd, better than the longevity show, by a long shot.

Quote from: littlechris on August 28, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
I think if Art wants the exposure he is looking for, he really is going to have to cater to AM/FM stations. I dont mind having more commercials. In fact I prefer them when listening live as it allows me to go to the restroom or go to the kitchen and get something to drink, etc,etc.  It think most people would be ok with more commercials if it means Art growing the show.

I totally agree with this.  To get more commercial time how about reducing the paranormal news segments from four minutes to three.  Then add one minute of commercials to the other two breaks each hour.  Now there's nine minutes of commercials per hour, a 50% increase and only two minutes of show content have been sacrificed each hour.  It's not ideal for Art and not ideal for radio either but a compromise like this could tempt a few big stations to come on board.

gabrielle

Quote from: Uncle Duke on August 28, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Just curious which MITD guests/shows you would recommend offering to the general public to entice them?  To me, the GIS show is a must for the EVPs, and the second open line show was very entertaining.  A hard science show should be offered, but I can't pick one specific show without reviewing them. I'd also do a paranormal experience open lines show expressly for the purpose of releasing it.
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the Marcus Hutter show was simply awesome in my opinion.  I am not saying I agree with all that was said...just that it was thought provoking, entertaining, and the guest was honest about the limitations and the potentials of his theories.  I was blown away by the candid way the guest answered Art. 

Art of course was right on the mark with his questions.  I felt like we got a lecture from an expert and we didn't have to pay the tuition. 

malliard

you could take even 5 to 15 minutes of a show it doesnt have to that long...

trostol

Quote from: Uncle Duke on August 28, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Just curious which MITD guests/shows you would recommend offering to the general public to entice them?  To me, the GIS show is a must for the EVPs, and the second open line show was very entertaining.  A hard science show should be offered, but I can't pick one specific show without reviewing them. I'd also do a paranormal experience open lines show expressly for the purpose of releasing it.
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the Dvorak show...

gabrielle

Quote from: trostol on August 28, 2015, 07:05:34 PM
the Dvorak show...

Yes, that one too was amazing.  We have been given so much brilliant information in so little time, it is almost hard to absorb.  I love it.

Uncle Duke

Quote from: trostol on August 28, 2015, 07:05:34 PM
the Dvorak show...

Agreed, may have been the best show so far.

Chronaut

I don’t know much about marketing but I have picked up a few things from friends who do it well:

1.)  The public perception/reputation of your “brand” (god I hate that term) is paramount.  When people hear about you (relevance), like the content (interest) and respect what you’re doing (reputability) â€" your outreach will grow and have a strong long-term outlook.
- I think most of us realize that a name-bombing promotional strategy will hurt your reputation over the long-term, even if it does offer a minor short-term bump.  Better to focus on the big picture imo.

2.)  Facebook can be a powerful ally but it has to be used properly â€" people love to spread cool graphic images with a punch â€" we haven’t seen much of that over there about MitD.  But you have a Powerful asset in the wealth of creative fans who love make great graphics (and even videos) to promote Art Bell.  I’d say use that, a lot.  If just one or two really good images go viral it’ll start making a big difference.

3.)  YouTube is the second most popular search engine in the world, next to Google.  So strategically posting some audio files of your show on popular topics, accompanied by a nice compelling graphic image, will reach a Lot of people.  And we can all become YouTube followers, which will boost your rankings and get you more exposure.

Those suggestions cost nothing, and can be implemented right now.

4.)  And finally:  Viral Content â€" which comes naturally to you.  Much if not most of the enormous growth of C2C AM when Art Bell was at the helm, was driven by landmark interviews on huge topics.  When Bob Lazar’s story hit the media, you covered it quickly and deeper than anyone.  When the Alien Autopsy hoax came out, people wanted answers and we got them from you.  When the Phoenix Lights shocked ufology, you were the only one talking about it for months.  That kind of work made you the go-to source for the inside scoop on all things paranormal.  It didn’t happen overnight, but it happened with steadily growing momentum until the whole world came to Art Bell for the skinny on the world’s most interesting topics.

I’m sure the pros in marketing can offer lots of other great ideas.

But a lot of people are offering suggestions that I think are toxic to your long-term agenda.  Entertaining frauds like Basiago and Rutter (aka “Dr. Reed”) were all the rage in the 90’s, but people have access to information much more readily now and they don’t like to be hoaxed.  And really significant and credible guests are reluctant to be associated with that kind of bunk.  It’s a new and more skeptical world â€" let’s be at the vanguard of that movement with scientists and genuine researchers and brilliant rebels and whistle blowers - truly significant content.  Let Snoorge have the con artists and angel channelers and Ancient Aliens riff-raff.  You’re genuinely passionate about rushing in to find the truth where others fear to tread â€" double down on your true passion and conviction, and your success will blossom like a desert flower.

coaster

I still think the youtube idea is best.

albrecht

Quote from: sorefinger on August 28, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
Longevity didn't interest you?  I thought it was a stand-out show.  It was new, something you didn't find on the other shows you mentioned.
That is the beauty of Art's shows. They usually are interesting even if one doesn't like the topic and he is willing to have shows without (usually without dumping guests) even if "some" don't like. Because he knows you can't please everybody all of the time. I had no interest in the Longevity show (the worst so far) but still was a good show. That why, and still do, like Art: his shows run the gamut from paranormal, hard science, political, health, news, UFO, open-lines, celebrity guests (not pop-stars but cool people), conspiracy, crazy "science," and so on.

Meister_000

Quote from: coaster on August 28, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
I still think the youtube idea is best.

And particularly if the titles stress, is BACK, 2015, etc.
Perhaps recent or new Periscope vids ?  Someone get Redacted to coax or remind him to turn it on. Tonight!

Jahshines

Last night's longevity show was ok, Art came across with some spiky energy early on, and get doctor was wrong about vaping. Vaping uses mostly vegetable glycerin and less and less propylene glycol(which is the carrier in asthma inhalers btw) if you go to a vape store that is.The off the shelf 'big tobacco' vapes like "blu" are toxic and hide their ingredients.
Also,  I would have liked the doctor to describe a cost-no-object anti-aging regiment from the top down from most important to least. Like: HGH, testosterone, etc.....
One other thing, I am on an anti-aging program. Testosterone, thyroid hormone, many,  many supplements and vitamins, get my blood work done quarterly. All tests are looking like those of a very young healthy man. I am 44 and no one ever guesses my age right, most think I am in my early 30's. It's a trip.

AppealPlay

Quote from: Jahshines on August 28, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
Last night's longevity show was ok, Art came across with some spiky energy early on, and get doctor was wrong about vaping. Vaping uses mostly vegetable glycerin and less and less propylene glycol(which is the carrier in asthma inhalers btw) if you go to a vape store that is.The off the shelf 'big tobacco' vapes like "blu" are toxic and hide their ingredients.
Also,  I would have liked the doctor to describe a cost-no-object anti-aging regiment from the top down from most important to least. Like: HGH, testosterone, etc.....

Haven't heard the show yet but if propylene glycol is bad then I should be dead.  I use the stuff to help keep my cigars moist.

Jahshines

The doctor should have known the usage of propylene glycol in asthma inhalers has proven it inert in the lungs.
The show was not just.. ok, it was pretty fun, but I wanted more depth about his program and what specifically he uses.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: coaster on August 28, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
I still think the youtube idea is best.

I agree, youtube is a great way to spread the word. I'd put up the Dvorak show to promote the science side and one of the paranormal shows.

Designx

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 05:15:07 PM
This show is now international. If Art wants to appeal to a broader audience than just the US, I would suggest a broader lens then topics that just affect the US. I don't/won't listen to MITD for debates on US constitutional issues or politics. Aren't there enough of these on the MM airwaves already?

How and when did these topics ever come into the genre that I thought MITD is?  What happened to "wanna take a ride"?

Exactly - there are already 100's of radio and TV shows that deal with U.S. issues. I don't want to hear political or constitutional crap on MITD.
If Art wants to expand his audience - just do really good unique radio for an extended period and your listeners will come. Word gets out quickly on the Internet.

AppealPlay

Quote from: Designx on August 28, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Exactly - there are already 100's of radio and TV shows that deal with U.S. issues. I don't want to hear political or constitutional crap on MITD.
If Art wants to expand his audience - just do really good unique radio for an extended period and your listeners will come. Word gets out quickly on the Internet.

100% +1 on that.  No political stuff, please!  Well, unless it's nutty fringe types then that could be fun. :D

RCH is frustrating me with his insistence on doing politics.  It makes me avoid OSOM.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 28, 2015, 08:29:00 PM

RCH is frustrating me with his insistence on doing politics.  It makes me avoid OSOM.

   It's from all of those years he was Cronkite's Man Friday.

zeebo

Just wanted to post this suggestion ....

Once per show, have a rapid-fire, lightning round of Wormhole Questions only.  Maybe just like 5-10 mins. or so.  It could be called something catchy like "Wormhole Corner" or "Messages from Beyond" or whatever.  (And maybe Redacted can sift through some of the better ones for Art so he doesn't have to compile them all in real-time.)

I love the callers, but sometimes they can ramble thus eating up precious time.  A segment like this could bundle together several good, concise questions for the guest.  Then to top it off, it can be used for marketing, so that at the end of each segment, remind the audience that any Time Traveler can send a question into the wormhole. 


CornyCrow

Quote from: sorefinger on August 28, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
Longevity didn't interest you?  I thought it was a stand-out show.  It was new, something you didn't find on the other shows you mentioned.
Certainly.  I prefer a show that spans many topics.  The thing I enjoy is how Art keeps the conversation flowing, is engaged with the guest, and asks great questions.  I did not know about the ultraviolet lights, and am glad to hear that Art is finally getting some relief.  I was also interested in knowing that there are breakthroughs in diabetes (which the drug companies probably are in terror of, since they love disorders that keep people addicted to their pills for life). 


Skunk Ape

I was able to tell my "rats touching my feet" story to Art. That's all I could ever ask for. Wow what a rush. Night all.

Quote from: BellBoy on August 28, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
Tell that one about inclusiveness to someone with the first name, say Muhammad, living in say... Tulsa (or anywhere else, really). American "freedom" is an illusion... you are all prisioners of your world fear and paranoia.

The fact that someone named Mohammad was given a visa and green card, and that he came here willingly and is freely going about his daily life here speaks for itself.

Can you please confine your political posts to the Politics section


phrodo

Quote from: zeebo on August 28, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
Just wanted to post this suggestion ....

Once per show, have a rapid-fire, lightning round of Wormhole Questions only.  Maybe just like 5-10 mins. or so.  It could be called something catchy like "Wormhole Corner" or "Messages from Beyond" or whatever.  (And maybe Redacted can sift through some of the better ones for Art so he doesn't have to compile them all in real-time.)

I love the callers, but sometimes they can ramble thus eating up precious time.  A segment like this could bundle together several good, concise questions for the guest.  Then to top it off, it can be used for marketing, so that at the end of each segment, remind the audience that any Time Traveler can send a question into the wormhole.

I think that's a great idea. Seems we rarely ever hear questions from the wormhole. What's the use of having it if your questions just disappear into a black hole?

Faustina

Quote from: Northern Nights on August 28, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
I totally agree with this.  To get more commercial time how about reducing the paranormal news segments from four minutes to three.  Then add one minute of commercials to the other two breaks each hour.  Now there's nine minutes of commercials per hour, a 50% increase and only two minutes of show content have been sacrificed each hour.  It's not ideal for Art and not ideal for radio either but a compromise like this could tempt a few big stations to come on board.

I agree.  Agreeing to add, say, 3 minutes more commercial time would hardly affect the flow of the show *too* badly, and it would (perhaps) be enough to enable large-ish AM/FM stations to agree to carry Arts show, bringing him potentially a much larger audience.  There is a certain number of old-school types who seem disinclined to listen to a radio show when the only way they can is online. 

Faustina

Quote from: zeebo on August 28, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
Just wanted to post this suggestion ....

Once per show, have a rapid-fire, lightning round of Wormhole Questions only.  Maybe just like 5-10 mins. or so.  It could be called something catchy like "Wormhole Corner" or "Messages from Beyond" or whatever.  (And maybe Redacted can sift through some of the better ones for Art so he doesn't have to compile them all in real-time.)

I love the callers, but sometimes they can ramble thus eating up precious time.  A segment like this could bundle together several good, concise questions for the guest.  Then to top it off, it can be used for marketing, so that at the end of each segment, remind the audience that any Time Traveler can send a question into the wormhole.

So agree with this.  Perhaps Art's producer could be going through all the wormhole questions that come in during the show, select the best ones, and have Art read them out to the guest for him/her to answer at the very beginning of the final hour of the show.  That segment should probably be no more than 5-10 minutes, so that it doesn't  too badly chomp into the time that calls get to come in for the guest (which, for me, is often the best part of the show since it's so spontaneous).

I say we promote Art Bell through a clever series of craigslist ads.

"Ipad - $10, must sell now. I use it to listen to the Art Bell show but now I just use the tune-in stream."
"Iphone $20- great for listening to Art Bell M-F 9pm to Midnight."

Other ideas:
Uber driver hotline.
Art Bell live show from the Coachella Music Festival.




Faustina

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on August 28, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
I agree, youtube is a great way to spread the word. I'd put up the Dvorak show to promote the science side and one of the paranormal shows.

Basiago, for me.  That show was fascinating.  2nd best one, for me, was Graham Hancock.

The Burning Man festival has a radio station. Art could do a show from there-he has better taste in music than most of those people. http://www.bmir.org/
Or he could do a show from South by Southwest or with someone who is there.
Music festivals seem to be a good way to reach younger people.

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