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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

James G.

Quote from: morphiaflow on March 30, 2011, 01:09:33 PMMost telling is his "what would you like to hear on Coast?" post. THAT is the host fishing for subject matter. Make no mistake. This is either GN's biggest fan in the world, or it's the man himself.

I concur. It reads like someone having some influence on the program's content. I've addressed that "what would you like to hear on Coast?" here:

http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2324.msg37085.html#msg37085

And if it's the host himself, he'd be best advised to post during the live show, showing he can post and broadcast simultaneously. And not during breaks, but while on-air. And not prepared ones, because members will post questions in real time to be answered in a prompt manner. Kind of like the ventriloquist speaking while drinking a glass of water bit.

We can even make it into some Coastgab game show, kind of like "Beat The Clock." Some of have nothing else to do but think.

I note, though, the posts could be done through someone else. Which it might be. That's no fun!

FortRock

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Editorial:  This seems obvious, and I don't know what you were thinking.

James G.

Let me offer my views on this post, and talk-radio in general. Like I say, I have nothing else to do but think. And think for myself.

And, by referring to George Noory simply as George, instead of Mr. Noory or just Noory, indicates a degree of familiarity to me.

Since there's another host named George, Mr. Knapp, I'll deduce something here. In the program's circle of influence, Mr. Noory is simply referred to as"George," while Mr. Knapp is simply referred to as "Knapp." Am I close? Kind of like a newsroom. Only the higher ups are referred to by their first name, while everyone else is identified by their last name.

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
I am a concerned C2C fan from the likes of folks who are out to scrutinize the great and talented George Noory
See below quote about ratings and followers. If that is true, why are you concerned? And concerned about what? The members of this forum hardly make or break the program's ratings, and are a small, insignificant percentage of its listeners.

Also, if the host you mentioned is indeed "great," he should be beyond the scrutiny you cite. It hardly seems logical, if someone is so exalted, that anyone should be taken aback by what others say about him or her? I may be some nobody to all the "Big Shots" out there, but I know who and what I am, and what they think or say of me matters not. If such would make themselves transparent to all, as I do, then we'll see who and what they are. Do they?

It's simple: Don't let the bastards grind you down, as my father advised me many times in life. And I admit I often didn't follow such true advice. As I should have.

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
You are in much jeopardy from being able to accomplish your goals to oust George from his host duties.
What kind of jeopardy, may I ask? From who and from where? Some of our everyday lives are jeopardy. These forums hardly represent any harbinger of doom in my existence.

This is the United States Of America. It is a land of fair comment and criticism. That's what makes our system viable, when other nations were built with leaders suppressing views that opposed their own. Now, Mr. Noory has decided to become a public figure, and should be big and aware enough to know that such, even obvious satire of himself and others like him, is part of "the glory" of that situation.

If such people are indeed great, why would they need people like you to defend them? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I will share a theme I learned in life experiences and world travel about civilizations: No one needs the support of a single person to gain popularity or power. All such need to do is discredit -- or eliminate -- those who oppose them. It's that simple.

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
  So I believe I am going to add a new thread here called George’s Corner.
That thread title sounds like something someone involved in broadcasting would create -- geared towards children. Disney Radio comes to mind.

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
  This will be where all the supporters and fans can say how much we appreciate George and then list your best aspects and qualities you like about him and the show
If Mr. Noory has legions of loyal followers, as you state, why do they need a thread on Coastgab?

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
  George has high ratings and many loyal followers
Admittedly, this is what every program needs to survive. And it's probably the main point of your posting.

The only people who give a hoot about ratings are networks and advertisers. Listeners themselves should know that. If you don't associate with those at Coast-To-Coast AM, or Premiere Radio Networks, why do ratings matter to you? This is more a discussion on the program's integrity, as related by a number of members who know it well. And feel it should stand for something, especially when so many others things don't.

Please know I'm neither Conservative nor Liberal. Right now, I side with neither. I was a Republican up to roughly two years ago. It was talk-radio and the philosophy from that side that caused me to abandon them. Why? Ratings.

People like Rush Limbaugh get high ratings. High ratings. Does that mean such as him are right? Does that mean such as him can do anything more than just talk? Absolutely not. Higher ratings increase the chances that more people will patronize its sponsors. Higher-rated programs, then, can charge advertisers more for airtime. Increasing revenue.

All ratings mean is that people listen to such programs. Why? Because we have a society comprised of many people who seek direction from the "exalted ones." It's easier to have someone tell you what you should think, rather than molding your own views. As I do.

Our society revolves around it. Worse than that, it's dependent on it. Look at our entertainment, motion picture and television industry. Too many can't envision, think or create for themselves. The above-cited medias do that for them. Infinite complacency.

That's where ratings come in. Which, to me, reflects what I fear in my heart and soul: The increasing dumbing of the American people. Because we have media -- increasing by the day -- that "does it all for them."

Some of the lamest television programs have the highest ratings. Some of the best television programs ever done didn't get good ratings, and were short-lived because of that. Regardless of substance.

If everyone wants to become mindless and brain dead, does that mean you're abnormal for not going along with it? Just because "so many are doing it" doesn't mean it has integrity.

When I heard recent news-talk programs, all I heard was solely "talk" about U.S. history. Before the means of mass communication -- and ratings -- were in place. Specifically, about our roots. Lots of rhetoric. Lots of "ideals." Lots of speeches.

I'll offer an example from world history. Yes, there's a world outside of ourselves out there, but it represents human nature all the same.

During Nazi rule, the German leaders understood the power that radio brought to their means. Now, the message could be spread further. Into every home. To virtually every person.

It could be said, in a word: ratings.

During its rise and reign -- and even later during the collapse -- of the Third Reich, leaders like Joseph Goebbels (note: a PhD) both understood and exploited the concept of ratings. They got high ratings, all right. That they got! But, that does mean what they were broadcasting had integrity? Does an exorbitant amount of listeners means those leaders were right?

Does the message really matter if broadcasts have countless listeners hanging on its every word? And taking it as sound, simply because so many others are tuning in as well?

I'll note that I did indeed reply more with questions than commentary. But the initial post offers more questions than answers. To me.

Again, I have nothing to do these days but think. And I'm not among those that are dependent on others to form their own views. Whether I'm right or wrong with my analysis, I can at least cite that such is indeed my own. And not molded by popular thought, consensus, or what have you.

In the public forum of our ever-growing electronic age, some people want to have their cake and eat it too. The means for people to spread their message is increasing. But such must realize and accept the downside: The means to offer alternative viewpoints to that message is also increasing.

Cordially, and in all due respect and in the name of fair comment,

James G.

morphiaflow

I do believe Ivannz has been pwnd.

aquagoat

Good to see everyone is just peachy. Inspector Closeau, meet Miss Marples.

I'll check in again next month.

TC

Rick


FortRock

NEED TO MAKE AN ANOUNCEMENT:

I could come to this site and appologize for re-printing a site Private Message, but I will not! The security breeches by the Coast Production Team are great here! But that's to be expected in times the Noory Evil Empire is about to meet the Scorpion Army of the "Desert Of The Sea"! Especially when it's pre-ordained that the NEE will lose, and Art Bell, and truth will win! We have the fog of war on the battlefield, and I too am one of the battle commanders! But I work for others you see! People from Portland, and "Locals For Art" in KDWN/Las Vegas land! I tested streamlink today, and it tried to unload Trojan-Horse Viruses into my computer according to my Norton Security System! I'm NOT an independent operator, not one bit! My mission is here in Coast Gab land, and elsewhere, using other id's than Fort Rock! This IS my stand, until Art's Voice returns to the airwaves! I told you of Art's connection to USAF General Merrill McPeak for a reason, Command and Contol to end Brookings is one of the Missions! Art already commands the heights, George, and company are fearful, and should be. Their presence on the stage is drawing to an abrupt close!

Quote from: Fort Rock on March 31, 2011, 05:17:19 PMBut that's to be expected in times the Noory Evil Empire is about to meet the Scorpion Army of the "Desert Of The Sea"! Especially when it's pre-ordained that the NEE will lose, and Art Bell, and truth will win! We have the fog of war on the battlefield, and I too am one of the battle commanders!

:O

Quote from: Fort Rock on March 31, 2011, 05:17:19 PM
I tested streamlink today, and it tried to unload Trojan-Horse Viruses into my computer according to my Norton Security System! I'm NOT an independent operator, not one bit! My mission is here in Coast Gab land, and elsewhere, using other id's than Fort Rock!

Thank you for providing us with a lifeline from headquarters!  Watch out for those Trojan viruses, lest they hijack your computer and start issuing disinformation to us!

Scully

Quote from: anagrammy on March 30, 2011, 10:55:57 PM
People, this is just wonderful.  I always thought GN was lurking here and make no mistake, it is George. The patterns of almost-ESL sentence construction and non sequiturs would never come from Tim or Lisa. They are not "radio personalities" and have to be sharp to stay employed.

Anagrammy

When Anagrammy said this, it rang a bell for me.  Don't Ivannz's posts sound a lot like those of the banned Lena?  And isn't Ivann a Russian name?  And can't people change ip adresses?

Just sayin'  ;)

b_dubb

you don't understand Scully.  it's a troll thang

Scully

Quote from: b_dubb on March 31, 2011, 08:48:10 PM
you don't understand Scully.  it's a troll thang

Yep!  And you don't think Ivannz fits the profile of a troll,too?  ???

Quote from: Scully on March 31, 2011, 08:47:01 PM

When Anagrammy said this, it rang a bell for me.  Don't Ivannz's posts sound a lot like those of the banned Lena?  And isn't Ivann a Russian name?  And can't people change ip adresses?

Just sayin'  ;)

Wouldn't rule it out. Very close to character to suggest a more logical theory, scully! However, I can't say i feel that logic is on the side of Noory & company here...

Again, trust no one...


"Sent from my piece of shit iPhone using Tapatalk"

Actually, doesn't Ivann pre-date lena with all of those attempts to gather ideas?


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b_dubb

@ Scully ... yes.  i do thinkz he'z trollz

@guildnavigator ... i can't be bothered creating a troll timeline.  i'm busy watching ShinChan on Netflix

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on March 29, 2011, 03:32:37 PM

Good grief man, give it a rest.  If I follow your rants correctly, Art Bell will soon retake the airwaves because:
a) your source/imaginary friend in some small market station (call letters probably WFAK) has insider info
b) Art Bell may (MAY) have started a Facebook page (do tell, what a stunning turn of events.  A Facebook page, you say.  Of course, this must mean he will be broadcasting again this weekend.  He certainly couldn't have started it to share family photos, keep in touch with friends, etc. LIKE EVERY ONE OF THE MILLIONS OF OTHER FACE BOOK USERS)
c) you end every sentance with an explanation point, so it must all be true.  (Maybe your students should try this trick on tests.  Q: What is 2 +2?  A: 5!  Five I tell you! My source tells me!)

Sheesh...
Seinfeld - Exclamation point

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
You are in much jeopardy from being able to accomplish your goals to oust George from his host duties.
it's really not like that... at least not from where i'm sitting.


i personally am not pursuing the removal of noory as host of c2c.  on the contrary, i don't give a shit.  i have a business to run, bills to pay (when possible), and a beautiful, olive-skinned wife to devote the remainder of my time to.  furthermore, i think 95% of this forum's users feel the same thing i do with regard to the subject of noory as host: indifference.  the douche has been there for almost a decade now.  i've moved through the entire grieving process, and at this point, i just want to know what my tax bill is going to look like this year.

HAL 9000

Fort Rock & "Portland Connection" Rare Archival Footage


This video is rare archival footage I discovered of Fort Rock and his "Portland Connection" discussing Art Bell's return to radio.

I am unable to decipher the messages in the video, much as I am unable to decipher any of FR's posts.

It all sounds like drivel and babble to me ;)

Perhaps there are some cryptic interpreters out there (oops - posted in 2 different threads)...


Fort Rock & "Portland Connection" Rare Archival Footage

Scully

Quote from: guildnavigator on March 31, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
Actually, doesn't Ivann pre-date lena with all of those attempts to gather ideas?

I yield to your seniority, Guildnavigator, as I came in (2/25) just as Lena was going out (kicking and screaming, as I recall).

Like my good friend, b_dubb, I have no time for troll timelines, for I have Netflix, too.

As you have reminded me, I will continue to Trust No One!  8)

anagrammy

Quote from: morphiaflow on March 30, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
Ahem. "You are in much jeopardy"? That's right up there with "All your base are belong to us".

Leaving aside the horrible syntax, that sounds to me, frankly, like a threat. Are you threatening us, Cornholio? Er, Ivannz?

Exactly what "jeopardy" are we in for freely expressing our opinions about the show and its host(s)? Are the Coast to Coast through police going to come down on us, track us down, and indoctrinate us into believing that GN is the best ever? Will they shut down this forum because it doesn't agree with them?

Geez, that sounds a lot like...naw....it couldn't be...that sounds a lot like the kind of stuff GN and most of his guests claim the NWO is planning!

Maybe you're not George. Frankly, I don't care. But you have now just crossed the line from being an idiot to being an idiot who has implied a threat against other members of this board who disagree with him. I bet there's something in the site rules about that sort of thing...

But yes, please, do, elaborate on this "jeapardy". I'm sure we'd all like to know the consequences we face by not being loyal to Herr Noory's reich.

Morphiaflow, this post rocks the subject.  For the young'uns, would you please explain the source of the classic "All your base are belong to us."  I must say again at how delighted I am with the appearance of George through his nervous surrogate.  As a professional editor, I must toss out to the CoastGab crowd the other possibility besides ESL.  Disjointed sentences, sentence fragments and other "All your base are" type sentences are often the result of too many people editing the same piece.  Everyone assumes someone else ironed out all the pronomial references, made sure the person and tense matched, etc.  And this is what you get.

SPECULATION WARNING:  Noory originally back in January had a 2-1/2 year contract with a five year conditional extension after that.  He proudly announced this and I am absolutely sure about it.  It was my take that the condition was that the ratings kept up.  We all know they don't care if the show is shit or gold as long as the ratings climb.  They don't care if they piggyback it and the ratings climb.  It's quite another thing if people are ridiculing them.   I think that GN made enough significant errors Feb-Mar that he is getting flack for it.  Flack from management that is using CoastGab comments and our innumerable detailed quotes of his Nooryisms as support.  So he says, "I probly have fans lurking there who are just afraid to comment because the main posters are such sharks."  So they dream up this idea for him to lure the fans out to support him here on Coast Gab and Art Bell Fans in the hopes that he can dissuade management from... (and here's where tingles go all through my body) FIRING HIM or MOVING HIM TO WEEKENDS and REPLACING HIM WEEKDAYS.

I say it's a play of desperation aimed here because we have (wipe a tear) had an effect. 

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!  Let's hear it for articulation vs. "absolutely"

Anagrammy

FortRock

TWO NOTES:

1. To HAL 9000, it takes the power to dream about a better radio dial to know that Art Bell is returning! AAHH, but he thinks he's a robot, and robots don't dream, AND they don't have the power to crusade against the Noory Evil Empire!

2. I had a Trojan Horse or some other virus planted into my computer after I recieved a private message from this site (Michael V. I will not give their name{s}). This had the effect of re-directing me to the George Noory Facebook Fan Site every time I tried to enter this Coast Gab site!

I've got some updated information from my Portland source, which I will relate tommorrow night!

Quote from: Fort Rock on April 01, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
TWO NOTES:

1. To HAL 9000, it takes the power to dream potent drugs to halucinate about a better radio dial to know that Art Bell is returning! AAHH, but he thinks he's a robot, and robots don't dream, AND they don't have the power to crusade against the Noory Evil Empire!

2. I had a Trojan Horse or some other virus planted into my computer frontal lobe after I recieved a private message from this site (Michael V. I will not give their name{s}). This had the effect of re-directing me to the George Noory Facebook Fan Site every time I tried to enter this Coast Gab site!

I've got some updated information crazy ramblings from my Portland source imaginary friend, which I will relate tommorrow night!

Fixed it for you...

Quote from: HAL 9000 on March 31, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Fort Rock & "Portland Connection" Rare Archival Footage


This video is rare archival footage I discovered of Fort Rock and his "Portland Connection" discussing Art Bell's return to radio.

I am unable to decipher the messages in the video, much as I am unable to decipher any of FR's posts.

It all sounds like drivel and babble to me ;)

Perhaps there are some cryptic interpreters out there (oops - posted in 2 different threads)...


Fort Rock & "Portland Connection" Rare Archival Footage


Word.


Mops

Quote from: IvannZ on March 30, 2011, 02:57:07 PM
People, I am not George.
Well, we know you aren't Alex Jones or Quayle.  Otherwise you would still be typing.

Seriously, while I got you on the line, George, did the threatening letters bin Laden sent out really say that remote-controlled "nukular" bombs are planted all over the country?  And if they are remote controlled then why would this be a suicide mission?

Oh, and you may want to do something about that self-incriminating avatar.  Your Mom probably wants the wallet photo back.

IU Jacob

Quote from: Fort Rock on April 01, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
2. I had a Trojan Horse or some other virus planted into my computer after I recieved a private message from this site (Michael V. I will not give their name{s}). This had the effect of re-directing me to the George Noory Facebook Fan Site every time I tried to enter this Coast Gab site!

Is this just your sense of humor, or do you truly believe that?

I must apologize, sometimes it really is hard to tell through written communication... I'm just slightly confused as to wether or not you are actually being serious here.

Latest on the Arthur bell Facebook? I notice the user deleted a few posts questioning him, but he promises a big announcement by month's end. Still crickets from the Knapp page

Erin Maas

Long time lurker, first time poster--in response to being directed to George Noory's Fan Club page on Facebook page last night!  I'm assuming this was an April Fools' joke (and quite a good one), but by whom?  I nominate Fort Rock!

Quote from: HAL 9000 on April 01, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
OMG! Just when I needed to smile, you actually made me laugh :) Thanks for the chuckle!

http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg37225.html#msg37225

Happy to repay you for all the times you've done the same for me.

Quote from: Michael V. on March 31, 2011, 09:58:39 PM
Seinfeld - Exclamation point

We must think alike, Mr. V!  I had the muffin top episode in mind when I wrote the post - "Top of the muffin..... TO YOU!!!!!"

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