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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

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laserjock

Ah, but...  The women find us, we don't find them, heh.  Why any woman chooses any of us men is a mystery though.  Not all Filipinas are the same nor are any American women OR men.  We're all individuals, replete with imperfections, but the culture there, if you are open minded and thoughtful, can jell well with SOME American guys.  But don't go there searching for a girl like momma or someone who will be subservient.  They've already elected female presidents there, and women might seem to be more traditional, but there is much more to it than that, and an American boy needs to be prepared to make allowances for their culture or you're gonna be miserable.  For instance, you better be prepared to adopt the entire family and be willing to be fully involved with them, you aren't just marrying the gal.  And be prepared for her to keep close tabs on you.  And when they come here, they are gonna adapt and adopt things here, so don't marry there just because you think you can shop for a wife that fits your demands.  My wife is my equal, but unlike other women in my life, she treats me with kindness and never puts me down, and I'm very kind to her.  She recently told me that my most important quality is my kindness, that blew me away when she told me it. 

albrecht

Quote from: coaster on March 21, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
Pre-recorded questions on cue cards, and replies like "you've got a point" and "could it be portals". Now thats how you do a show..
Possibly the most patented Norry question (used when Index cards are dropped) Is the: "how do you do what you do" "your passionate with what you do. How did you start with what you do" and the various combinations of the like.

An interesting question: has anyone ever relistened to Norry show? Yet many can relisten to an Art show. Even a show where guests and callers proved wrong. And still be interested. The great shows? Can be reheard xtimes amd still be "riveting". I just listened to "perfect possession" with Father Martin for maybe who-knows what time (came up random on my mp3 player) and still listened for whole show again.

laserjock

You know, that's an important thing to bring up.  Noory doesn't challenge guests, he treats what they say as gospel, doesn't push them to justify their assertions, but Art, you do when you interview.  Noory just inputs outputs like an android, so does Jimmy Church, in fact, they get all fanboyish with many guests.  A good journalist probes and tests, challenges and inquires.  Art, you are always much more engaged than Noorch.  I have grown weary of putting down Noory, but truth to be told, I stopped listening to him many months ago because I'm not only tired of putting him down, but putting UP with him, most of us here could do much better than he does, I can't figure out how he's keeping his job.  But enough of that.

nbirnes

Quote from: DanTSX on March 21, 2015, 08:04:33 PM

Art,

Jorch has a good ghostwriter.

She wrote his cookbook.

She saved Jorch a lot of time.  And apparently saved herself a bunch of time also.

This is what happens when talent falls though a portuhl.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=5053.0

George's ghostwriter for all his books -- except the cookbook -- is Bill Birnes. Bill set up the multi-book deal at Tor/Forge, a huge and wonderful publisher. I did the cookbook while also writing a fiction for Noory called Nero Blaze. It was to be a time-travel novel, and in old C2C shows, you'll hear him talk about it here and there. I was in Chapter 38 of a 42-chapter ms. when George cancelled everything with one terse email. Including another book in the queue beyond the ones we're talking about here.

So, I am to blame for the cookbook, not Bill.

Since art is now a regular. I should point out again that a lot of posters including myself still miss ramona. While we didn't get to hear much of her on coast, I also heard her a couple of times on Knye. You could really tell she was a big part of coast and was vital to building it to the level it reached. She is missed.

morgana213

Quote from: laserjock on March 21, 2015, 08:37:09 PM
You know, that's an important thing to bring up.  Noory doesn't challenge guests, he treats what they say as gospel, doesn't push them to justify their assertions, but Art, you do when you interview.  Noory just inputs outputs like an android, so does Jimmy Church, in fact, they get all fanboyish with many guests.  A good journalist probes and tests, challenges and inquires.  Art, you are always much more engaged than Noorch.  I have grown weary of putting down Noory, but truth to be told, I stopped listening to him many months ago because I'm not only tired of putting him down, but putting UP with him, most of us here could do much better than he does, I can't figure out how he's keeping his job.  But enough of that.
Speaking of fanboys, I've heard Jimmy Church ask 2 different guests "How did you get to be so cool?"  Pretty creepy and from that moment on there was no objective conversation happening.

Thank you Art for not saying that to your guests.....

VegasI15

Quote from: laserjock on March 21, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Ah, but...  The women find us, we don't find them, heh.

Who said anyone was looking? There is a saying in Spain "Uno no se busca, uno se encuentra."  This means "One doesn't search, one discovers."   Point being, finding something doesn't necessarily mean you are actively looking.  Sometimes you stumble upon it.

WOTR

Quote from: nbirnes on March 21, 2015, 08:50:45 PM
George's ghostwriter for all his books -- except the cookbook -- is Bill Birnes. Bill set up the multi-book deal at Tor/Forge, a huge and wonderful publisher. I did the cookbook while also writing a fiction for Noory called Nero Blaze. It was to be a time-travel novel, and in old C2C shows, you'll hear him talk about it here and there. I was in Chapter 38 of a 42-chapter ms. when George cancelled everything with one terse email. Including another book in the queue beyond the ones we're talking about here.

So, I am to blame for the cookbook, not Bill.
You are not promoting the "nice guy" persona that he tries to sell us.  I might have looked at the cookbook but for the name on the cover.  I cannot read anything he promotes himself being involved with, nor watch or listen to anything connected to him.

I cannot imagine him as trying to pass of that he wrote a book of fiction (mind you, he is trying to promote himself as coauthor of "somebody did something that caused a plane to fall from the sky..."  so who knows?)  He may just think we are all stupid enough to believe a man who cannot seem to read a book would write one...

ManiacMatt

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 08:21:01 PM
I got this call when I was living in San Diego, that's why its a six. You can go to www.QRZ.com and look anybody up by call letters.

Art

I live in SD.  We're you on the air when living here or was that part of your military career?

Art Bell

Well I do not want to comment much about Dave except to say he is what he is. I do not think he will change. To be fair he has a listener base but there has been a profound change in that base and by that I mean if you listen to the callers it is just sad, it is one of the main reasons I stopped doing Weekends.

I am convinced that if I do a smart show it will attract smart listeners and smart callers. As I have said before and will again now, if George Knapp was the main host I would not even consider a new show,I have nothing left to prove, I just want the subject to be represented well, not seen as a joke. It hurts to see what I spent so many Years building reduced to that level. Dave works hard at hardly working. He gets high marks for showing up every day but then hardly works, almost like he really does not like the subject or is distracted. This is not just my opinion but the view of many and I don't think it is fair to what I think is such a truly important field to explore.

Anyway at this point there is clearly room for us both and as I have said if my show is smaller but smarter I can so live with that and Dave can continue to do as he does.
I no longer want to be bigger, just better.

jazmunda

Quote from: nooryisawesome on March 21, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
Since art is now a regular. I should point out again that a lot of posters including myself still miss ramona. While we didn't get to hear much of her on coast, I also heard her a couple of times on Knye. You could really tell she was a big part of coast and was vital to building it to the level it reached. She is missed.

I second that. 

Ramona was a big part of Coast to Coast.  I used to love it when you'd hear her shout something to Art from the other room in order to correct something that Art said or answer a question. I loved how Ramona was listening in the other room along with the rest of us.

jazmunda

Dave showing up = phoning it in.

bateman

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:13:09 PM
Dave works hard at hardly working. He gets high marks for showing up every day but then hardly works, almost like he really does not like the subject or is distracted.

He doesn't care because he gets paid the same whether he does a good show or mails in yet another week. He's made it this far and cashed millions of dollars' worth of PremRat checks - where's his incentive to improve or even appear to be halfway conscious?

Art Bell

Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art

morgana213

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art
You done good Art. 

eyenoeyeno

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art
secondies

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art

If Airyn or your baby girl are ever interested in saying hi on the new show, that would be fun. If they don't that's understandable.

The General

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art

Cheers, buddy.  I know I'd be lost without my wife.

PathoJen

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Yes indeed, Ramona was a big part of my life and now Airyn is as well, no Man can say he walks a path like this without a good Woman along side him, I have been lucky beyond reason.

Art

I loved Ramona too. She is missed.
I'm sure we would all love Airyn too.

jazmunda

Art does Ayrn have any interest in the paranormal or is she a non believer?

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: nooryisawesome on March 21, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
You could really tell she was a big part of coast and was vital to building it to the level it reached. She is missed.

i always had the impression ramona did a lot behind the scenes to produce the show.

check this out:
www.testament.org/new_testament/t216s2.html

it's a transcript of a phone conversation between ramona and some self absorbed dummy named mark russell bell.  they're talking because she's considering booking him as a guest on dreamland.  it's a great read because first, ramona leaves a message on his machine.  then, the guy calls ramona back, art answers, hands the phone to ramona, and she starts chatting with this douche.  at some point in the conversation, this guy tells ramona he was an egyptian sun god in a former life, and tells her coast would be preferable to dreamland for his appearance since dreamland is too "fringe"... when ramona bluntly replies, "well, i don't even think there's a possibility of dreamland, mark."  haha, love it.  i get a laugh out of this every time i read it.  ramona just straight up let this tool know it was a "no go".  what a woman.

someguy

man I'm listening to an old coast to coast am and I just got out of bed to have a cig. in this one art bell is talking to some guy and he keeps giving the guy just enough rope to hang himself with, then art leads into the break with an incest joke. it's so good

I always wished art bell would talk to a muslim guy about djinn spirits, or a buddhist. I mean he had hopi elders on, so why not?

SaucyRossy

Quote from: MV on March 21, 2015, 10:43:43 PM
i always had the impression ramona did a lot behind the scenes to produce the show.

check this out:
www.testament.org/new_testament/t216s2.html

it's a transcript of a phone conversation between ramona and some self absorbed dummy named mark russell bell.  they're talking because she's considering booking him as a guest on dreamland.  it's a great read because first, ramona leaves a message on his machine.  then, the guy calls ramona back, art answers, hands the phone to ramona, and she starts chatting with this douche.  at some point in the conversation, this guy tells ramona he was an egyptian sun god in a former life, and tells her coast would be preferable to dreamland for his appearance since dreamland is too "fringe"... when ramona bluntly replies, "well, i don't even think there's a possibility of dreamland, mark."  haha, love it.  i get a laugh out of this every time i read it.  ramona just straight up let this tool know it was a "no go".  what a woman.

Man the old internet was crazy as fuck.

paladin1991

Quote from: Art Bell on March 21, 2015, 09:13:09 PM
Well I do not want to comment much about Dave except to say he is what he is. I do not think he will change. To be fair he has a listener base but there has been a profound change in that base and by that I mean if you listen to the callers it is just sad, it is one of the main reasons I stopped doing Weekends.

I am convinced that if I do a smart show it will attract smart listeners and smart callers. As I have said before and will again now, if George Knapp was the main host I would not even consider a new show,I have nothing left to prove, I just want the subject to be represented well, not seen as a joke. It hurts to see what I spent so many Years building reduced to that level. Dave works hard at hardly working. He gets high marks for showing up every day but then hardly works, almost like he really does not like the subject or is distracted. This is not just my opinion but the view of many and I don't think it is fair to what I think is such a truly important field to explore.

Anyway at this point there is clearly room for us both and as I have said if my show is smaller but smarter I can so live with that and Dave can continue to do as he does.
I no longer want to be bigger, just better.
I think that Dave edits horse porn videos during his interview.  You know, left over work fm his day job. 

someguy

Quote from: SaucyRossy on March 21, 2015, 10:51:42 PM
Man the old internet was crazy as fuck.

I've been on the internet forever and that's an understatement, back in the day you had to be really dedicated and nerdy to get on the internet

jazmunda

Quote from: MV on March 21, 2015, 10:43:43 PM
i always had the impression ramona did a lot behind the scenes to produce the show.

check this out:
www.testament.org/new_testament/t216s2.html

it's a transcript of a phone conversation between ramona and some self absorbed dummy named mark russell bell.  they're talking because she's considering booking him as a guest on dreamland.  it's a great read because first, ramona leaves a message on his machine.  then, the guy calls ramona back, art answers, hands the phone to ramona, and she starts chatting with this douche.  at some point in the conversation, this guy tells ramona he was an egyptian sun god in a former life, and tells her coast would be preferable to dreamland for his appearance since dreamland is too "fringe"... when ramona bluntly replies, "well, i don't even think there's a possibility of dreamland, mark."  haha, love it.  i get a laugh out of this every time i read it.  ramona just straight up let this tool know it was a "no go".  what a woman.

Wow! What a find and what a loony. Go Ramona.

someguy

my first internet account was a unix shell and I paid $25 a year for it

bateman

Quote from: MV on March 21, 2015, 10:43:43 PM
i always had the impression ramona did a lot behind the scenes to produce the show.

check this out:
www.testament.org/new_testament/t216s2.html

it's a transcript of a phone conversation between ramona and some self absorbed dummy named mark russell bell.  they're talking because she's considering booking him as a guest on dreamland.  it's a great read because first, ramona leaves a message on his machine.  then, the guy calls ramona back, art answers, hands the phone to ramona, and she starts chatting with this douche.  at some point in the conversation, this guy tells ramona he was an egyptian sun god in a former life, and tells her coast would be preferable to dreamland for his appearance since dreamland is too "fringe"... when ramona bluntly replies, "well, i don't even think there's a possibility of dreamland, mark."  haha, love it.  i get a laugh out of this every time i read it.  ramona just straight up let this tool know it was a "no go".  what a woman.
QuoteQ: Well, no â€" that would be a possibility. I mean I would even be willing to go out there and meet with Art.

R: Well, we don't do that.

Q: Oh. Okay.

LOL

PathoJen

That was great! I like when she said, "I've just reconsidered everything, ok?" Fantastic! :D

DanTSX

Quote from: nbirnes on March 21, 2015, 08:50:45 PM
George's ghostwriter for all his books -- except the cookbook -- is Bill Birnes. Bill set up the multi-book deal at Tor/Forge, a huge and wonderful publisher. I did the cookbook while also writing a fiction for Noory called Nero Blaze. It was to be a time-travel novel, and in old C2C shows, you'll hear him talk about it here and there. I was in Chapter 38 of a 42-chapter ms. when George cancelled everything with one terse email. Including another book in the queue beyond the ones we're talking about here.

So, I am to blame for the cookbook, not Bill.

No.

George is to blame for the cookbook.

George is to blame for everything here.

Think about it.  The only reason any of us are here is because George swallows twice the amount of suck that would normally choke any other living person.

If George paid me to write a book, it would be 30 butter infusions, some crushed butterfingers sprinkled on prepared donuts, a turkey sandwich, how to get tore-up off of mouthwash, and how to microwave popcorn because I would know nobody would read it.  A massive literary black hole.  And I think it's pretty brave to look over the edge and watch your face get sucked in.

All hail pizza rolls.

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