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Quote from: laserjock on March 23, 2015, 02:52:01 PM
Art, you should do a subreddit discussion when the time comes (ask me anything on Reddit).

http://www.reddit.com/

That's a great idea. Knapp did one, and it was fascinating. A lot of people are on reddit, maybe a new audience who didn't hear Art the first time around.

laserjock

There's also Usenet, which existed BEFORE the Web.  I was Usenetting and Telnetting long before the Web existed.  Archie, Gopher, Veronica, IRC, Usenet...  I don't know if there are any paranormal irc chat rooms, but that's something too, though irc moves too fast for me, I can't read that fast.  And Art should put is podcasts on iTunes store and Google's store.  And I still think an app is a good idea.  And Art should talk to Leo Laporte who has experience making this profitable, Leo's been doing it for more than 10 years now, and is making out quite well.

Art, your show should air a week or two or more AFTER the noncompete ends, so you have time to broadcast on youtube, reddit, usenet, what have you.  Do a build up for the big show.

But I have a request from the heart, Art:  Please never invite Alex Jones on your show.  Jones is an extremest and I feel he is evil.  By now, Art, you've read enough of my posts to know I'm one of your fans that is a liberal of sorts, yeah, I've got some conservative beliefs, and used to be a right wing activist in the old days, but I'm pretty liberal today and I suggest appealing to liberals as well as conservatives, give us an equal voice.  We don't want politics, of course, but still, fairness.

And your presence at various conventions should be a consideration, also, like broadcaster conventions.


bateman

Quote from: Art Bell on March 23, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
No I am not a guy who sees conspiracy around every corner, I was kind of joking when I said I thought I had seen thrown games. It just feels that way sometimes when you favorite team loses at the last second, lol

Art

Actually, you might want to consider this guy as a guest... thefixisin.net

DesertFox

Quote from: bateman on March 23, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
Actually, you might want to consider this guy as a guest... thefixisin.net



Would be an interesting guest--though I think he is largely full of shit.

The General

Quote from: Art Bell on March 23, 2015, 02:39:33 PM
Well when the time is right, Websites, paranormal sites, blogs, overseas sites, anywhere we can put a promo message. Kind of like with what you all did with the XM site but a bit more spread out. Lol.

But if done to early it would be a waste because people have short memories. Then it's on me to keep them listening and I will do my best, since it's gonna be free and easy to get to it will build. I am sure we will get some free press as well. Starting small doesn't bother me a bit. I've got a total of about 17,000 people who watch my FB page as well.

Art

From what I can gather off the internet, it seems that at about any given time, there are roughly 1000 people streaming your old shows online from various sources, illegally I might add, but listening nonetheless.  A thousand people!  Listening to 20 year old long form talk radio programs from the 90's!  Just on a tuesday afternoon or whatever.  That's pretty astounding, really.  I don't think ANY host's show can compete with that.  Can you imagine ANY OTHER SHOW that would have that kind of attraction 20 years later?  Anything else would be so dated that you just wouldn't want to listen.  Who would listen to a Rush Limbaugh Classic Show stream?  Pretty much nobody.  And there's a half dozen different sources streaming different shows?  It's pretty amazing, Art.

laserjock

What Leo Laporte does is he has a website and apps and on his app you can select from any of his shows to stream on demand.  He also allows listening live.  Your Dark Matter radio would change if you were to adopt this.  Each show on Dark Matter would be available via the app and any time, and each show would have a little light advertising in it to support the whole thing.  This would mean asking all your program holders to allow advertising, but that's a way to pay the bills, it's not heinous.  Leo does about 5 minutes of advertising by talking about the advertised things during his shows, and he sells things he believes in.

I've worked as a sales person and as long as I believed in what I sold, it was good.  My BIL agrees with me that we liked when you would do a short talk about CCrane and other things, when it came right from your mouth we were cool with it.

But Art, whatever you do, try to remember that some of us are very poor (you have no idea how poor), so don't forget us, either, please.

laserjock

I wouldn't want to listen to Rush anyways, he's so hateful.  Way back in the old days I listened to him, but I soon grew tired of his hate schtick and I became liberal (oh horrors of horrors).  I know that Art is friends with Rush, but I hold the guy in contempt, he's been to Costa Rica on vacations where it is known that child molesters partake.  He talks about women like they are trash.  He's a drug addict.  He's a fat slob who failed at everything in life before he started trash talking.

Mind you, some liberal talk people are pretty bad too, but not nearly as hateful. 

Politics is fleeting, and minds change over time, like me, I used to be far to the right and now I'm a moderate lefty.  But life is much more than politics, and most politicians and the people who help them, are scum.  Ever watch the Netflix show House of Cards?  I get to watch it when elsewhere (can't afford netflix), but if real politicians are like Frank Underwood, they are really scary, I hope Art never lowers himself to do such people's biddings.  Besides, Rush is in trouble right now, so I hear, many of his advertisers are abandoning him, people are growing weary of that hate stuff.  We want edification, not politics.

bateman

Fun radio fact of the day:

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Investors are getting out in droves.

nika01

Quote from: trust_no_one on March 23, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
I agree with the folks who think Ian P. made the show his own.  He did some really good interviews in my opinion and also had the challenge of some stinky awful guests.  Knapp and Punnett would be my choices as a distant second and third...then Wells.

I dont trust you.

Dont see the Ian love. He started good and then developed the Jim Bohanon complex. Ego far greater than talent. I'm sorry but I like interviers that dont take over and dictate the way Ian did.

laserjock

I dn't think Ian did that, but he challenged guests just as a good host should.  He's a really nice guy too.

nika01

Quote from: laserjock on March 23, 2015, 04:07:58 PM
I dn't think Ian did that, but he challenged guests just as a good host should.  He's a really nice guy too.

Well, to each his own. I thought he was an ego maniac, extremely proud of pretending to know more arcana than his guest. Just set me off, cause he almost never shut the hell up and listened. Always wanted to oversteer the boat. Noory is less aggravating to me than Ian. I hope this doesnt get me banned for life

DesertFox

Quote from: nika01 on March 23, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Well, to each his own. I thought he was an ego maniac, extremely proud of pretending to know more arcana than his guest. Just set me off, cause he almost never shut the hell up and listened. Always wanted to oversteer the boat. Noory is less aggravating to me than Ian. I hope this doesnt get me banned for life



I agree with Laserjock--Ian was fine and not at all egotistical when interviewing.  Art's the best but Ian was very good as was George Knapp.

nika01

Quote from: DesertFox on March 23, 2015, 04:17:12 PM


I agree with Laserjock--Ian was fine and not at all egotistical when interviewing.  Art's the best but Ian was very good as was George Knapp.

would y'all send me some of what your smoking.

laserjock

I don't smoke tobacco and haven't smoked pot for years, though I wouldn't mind a puff now, I haven't even drunk anything in weeks. 

jerry

Quote from: nika01 on March 23, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Well, to each his own. I thought he was an ego maniac, extremely proud of pretending to know more arcana than his guest. Just set me off, cause he almost never shut the hell up and listened. Always wanted to oversteer the boat. Noory is less aggravating to me than Ian. I hope this doesnt get me banned for life

I agree about Ian, but can't about Dave, little bits of Dave are great unintentional comedy, but I can't listen to him do a show any more and haven't since around 2009.

jazmunda

Quote from: nooryisawesome on March 23, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
I was listening to a old show with leer as the guest. I completely forgot about a call in I made in the mid 90's as a 5th grader. I dialed my little heart out for 4 nights straight. I finally got through and panicked. I had this animal noise maker I used to use to annoy my brother with. I was to scared to talk when I heard east of the Rockies you are on the air. So I just pushed the monkey noise button.

Art was nice enough to say anything else? No, well I guess that's all he had to say.

Ha ha ha. What was the date of that show?

Laurakinch

Quote from: nika01 on March 23, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Well, to each his own. I thought he was an ego maniac, extremely proud of pretending to know more arcana than his guest. Just set me off, cause he almost never shut the hell up and listened. Always wanted to oversteer the boat. Noory is less aggravating to me than Ian. I hope this doesnt get me banned for life

I wholeheartedly agree with you about Punnett. Towards the end of his tenure he grated my nerves as much as noory, just for different reasons.

I liked Ian. Ok, maybe not the man with the soul of a horse show, but he was great introducing authors like Mary Roach, Steven Volks and Bart Ehrman. His shows were never the same old, same old angels, portals and demons claptrap. He read the books and admitted when he didn't have time to finish, had good questions for the authors and put his own stamp on the show, making it less the Noory insult to your intelligence and more a show about topics he personally found fascinating and wanted to share. Maybe not everyone's favorite host and it took a while for me to warm to him, but in the end I did like his shows a lot and was sorry when he left.

laserjock

I think, Laura, some people didn't like Ian because he was more liberal than other hosts, right?  But for me, that was a good thing, it's a breath of fresh air to have both sides have a chance (so long as it's not extreme, like Lisa Garr, she's more than I can handle).  Ian was funny and had very pithy comments and was always on top of things.  I also have mild tinnitus, so I understood what he is going through.

bateman

Could not stand him on Coast for all the reasons described above. One of the most cringe-inducing things he did was asking callers "where are you taking us next?" It was like he was hosting a children's fantasy program.

rzr1911

Actually I sent several emails to C2C asking them to kick out Ian because he sucks so much.
Maybe you can all thank me that this clown isn't hosting a show there any more.

DesertFox

Well there are a lot of pro and con for Ian here--unlike the almost all positive for Art and all negative for Noory.  Ian seems in the middle...not too bad.

DesertFox

Quote from: bateman on March 23, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
Could not stand him on Coast for all the reasons described above. One of the most cringe-inducing things he did was asking callers "where are you taking us next?" It was like he was hosting a children's fantasy program.



I was fine with the "where you going to take us next."  To each their own. 

SaucyRossy

Quote from: Art Bell on March 23, 2015, 11:24:02 AM
I agree completly, the Raiders seem perfect for Las Vegas. However the Fan's are a bit rough, when going to a Raider game you better be wearing Raider black or be sure the fan behind you is not playing with a knife, I know because I have been to a few Raider games. However their image would fit right in.

Art

Here's a question. Why should Los Angeles OR Las Vegas even bother? Both states and cities are running out of water at an alarming rate. There's a good chance California will become a dust bowl. Why not address that first then figure out if the states can afford to subsidize an nfl expansion team.

And even if both teams pay 100% of the costs to build a stadium (extremely doubtful) there will be other unforeseen costs and resources needed.

And know, that I say all of this as one of the largest football fans there is. I love the game, and love sports in general but I just wanted to provide a counter point.

Laurakinch

Quote from: laserjock on March 23, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
I think, Laura, some people didn't like Ian because he was more liberal than other hosts, right?  But for me, that was a good thing, it's a breath of fresh air to have both sides have a chance (so long as it's not extreme, like Lisa Garr, she's more than I can handle).  Ian was funny and had very pithy comments and was always on top of things.  I also have mild tinnitus, so I understood what he is going through.

It had nothing to do with his political leanings at all. I just found him to be an annoying, condescending know-it-all. And BTW, I suffer greatly most days with terrible tinnitus myself so I can attest to how much it sucks to have it but I cannot cut him any slack due to that.

nika01

Quote from: rzr1911 on March 23, 2015, 04:53:57 PM
Actually I sent several emails to C2C asking them to kick out Ian because he sucks so much.
Maybe you can all thank me that this clown isn't hosting a show there any more.

thank you

jerry

Quote from: Laurakinch on March 23, 2015, 05:10:00 PM
It had nothing to do with his political leanings at all. I just found him to be an annoying, condescending know-it-all. And BTW, I suffer greatly most days with terrible tinnitus myself so I can attest to how much it sucks to have it but I cannot cut him any slack due to that.

Everytime I heard Ian hosting a show I would find myself yelling at the radio for him to shut up and let the guest talk a bit.  Mister know-it-all Ian always had to act like he knew more about the topic than the guest!  I wondered why he even needed guests since he knew all there was to know, about the stuff, all the time....

laserjock

Quote from: Laurakinch on March 23, 2015, 05:10:00 PM
It had nothing to do with his political leanings at all. I just found him to be an annoying, condescending know-it-all. And BTW, I suffer greatly most days with terrible tinnitus myself so I can attest to how much it sucks to have it but I cannot cut him any slack due to that.

Wow, pretty hateful for a guy that hosted occasionally.  I don't see it, condescending for simply being fairly bright, brighter than some guests that were just huxters anyways?  I don't recall Ian ever acting full of himself, he was pretty unassuming frankly.  Perhaps you resent Einstein too for being intelligent?  I studied optical physics, does that make me an asshole too?

Ian didn't parade around with an arrogance, I don't see it.  He was intelligent and challenged some guests that needed challenge, as Art did, and I hope Art continues to. 

laserjock

And, Art has told us that he want's an intelligent audience.  I'll take Ian over that Idiot Wells any day.

VegasI15

Quote from: laserjock on March 23, 2015, 05:28:24 PM
Ian didn't parade around with an arrogance, I don't see it.  He was intelligent and challenged some guests that needed challenge, as Art did, and I hope Art continues to.

I agree with you here.  Ian didn't come across as cocky at all, quite the opposite.  The fact that he is strong in his religious beliefs really seems to send people off the deep end also.  However he always was honest and let you know where he stood.  And it never came across as forcing those beliefs on you.  Can't ask for much more in my book.     

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