George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[michio]

Another frickin' 'health' show with medical doctor and spiritual advisor George sNoory, offering (or pushing) his sage (more like sorry) advice. I hear this guy on the radio saying 'no chemotherapy, no drugs, no conventional medicine because they're killers.'  Yeah, untreated cancer is a killer, too, and it usually doesn't disappear on its own because you ate some leaf off of a plant.  'The universe has a natural remedy for everything.'  Maybe so, and maybe we've just burned it down with the Rainforest.  And let's be honest, they talk about natural supplements, hawking like sNoory and get rich selling useless and expensive shat to sNoory's extended radio family.  I get the feeling (nausea) that sNoory has stock in more than a few of these alternative medicine companies and/or he's getting kickbacks in some way.  There has to be a reason he's so driven to do this type of shtick so frequently.  And BTW, do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been scientifically proven to work?  They call it medicine.

[WOTR]

Yeah, untreated cancer is a killer, too, and it usually doesn't disappear on its own because you ate some leaf off of a plant.

No, no... not a leaf.  You need maple syrup and baking soda to be really effective.  Naturally, vitamin C will work as well.  The doctor is now saying that I turn my shower into a chlorine gas chamber "like the criminal Hitler used to kill the Jews."  Perhaps my coworkers won't mind my not showering when I explain to them that I don't want to die in a chlorine gas chamber?

I get the feeling (nausea) that sNoory has stock in more than a few of these alternative medicine companies and/or he's getting kickbacks in some way...

I don't know about the alternative medicine stocks- but I know he is getting kickbacks.  Noory just ended before a commercial break by saying that he is still getting emails from people who still want to believe the traditional treatments in a tone that suggested that those people emailing him were daft.  He then immediately played his spot for income at home.  Just click "my name" on the referral box, George says.  I think everybody knows that income at home is Herbalife- a MLM company by now?  When you click his name there is no doubt that he gets a "kickback" as the person who referred you.  I don't know his exact deal- but usually he would be entitled to a "cut" of all of your sales and the sales of anybody you are able to trick into selling for them.  I would like to see his tax return to see how much he is raking in off of this little scam.  (I consider MLM to be a form of legal pyramid scheme, though I know it does not truly fit the definition.)

[valdez]

Another frickin' 'health' show...

No, no... not a leaf.  You need maple syrup and baking soda...

     First guest, Riza Kalili, claimed to be working for the CIA while a member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.  I got the feeling he might be playing both sides, and I wanted to hear more, but instead George was compelled to bring back Dr. Leonard Coldwell.  Was he as nutty last week as he was tonight?  The "number one cause of death in so called western civilisation is medicine"?  56% of the population has cancer?  Somebody (The pharmaceutical industry?  The A.M.A.?) bombed his house?  On the bright side if you go to his website now and mention George you can get a gallon of salt water for only $200.  That's a whopping 60% discount.  Sea salt.  That iodized stuff will kill you.

Coldwell on the right with Gary Trudeau.

Oh, heck.  If he's involved with Trudeau he must be on the up and up.

[SnapT]

Coldwell does sound kind of nutty, and I don't know if he has "the answer to cancer," but chemo and other "standard cancer treatments" seem to be seriously ineffective.

Interesting stuff: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/19/cut-poison-burn.aspx

[Lovely Bones]

Twice now the good doctor LC has claimed that medical doctors have a life expectancy of just 56 years, something that hardly squares with my experience.  Found this, which suggests he's taking his information from some other suspect doctor, a veterinarian:

"Maverick veterinarian Joel Wallach is selling video and audio tapes
titled Dead Doctors Don't Lie! proclaiming that physicians have a life
expectancy of only 58 years. This sends the message that doctors are
so wrongheaded that they themselves live significantly shorter lives
than the general population.  It is not clear where Wallach gets his
data, but it is a lie.  Physicians have long had life expectancies
that are longer than the general population. Goodman [1] reviewed
reports on physician life expectancies in 1925, 1938-42, 1949-51, and
1971. His study covered the 1971 population of 344,823 physicians, and
the deaths of 19,086 from 1969 through 1973. He found that both male
and female physicians had greater life expectancy than the general
population."

"The American Medical Association's Center For Health Care Policy
published data on the life expectancies of U.S. medical graduate
physicians by specialty in 1988. [2] It showed that the life
expectancy of physicians is somewhere between 75 and 88, depending
upon the age and gender that one chooses"


http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=142255

[stevesh]

Turns out the good doctor is also a 911 Truther.

Scary thing is that this dangerous quack's website is still being slammed, 6 hours after the show ended.

There must be a special place in Hell, hotter than the rest, reserved for people who enrich themselves at the expense of desperate sick people.

[kf5iwe]

     First guest, Riza Kalili, claimed to be working for the CIA while a member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.  I got the feeling he might be playing both sides, and I wanted to hear more, but instead George was compelled to bring back Dr. Leonard Coldwell.  Was he as nutty last week as he was tonight?  The "number one cause of death in so called western civilisation is medicine"?  56% of the population has cancer?  Somebody (The pharmaceutical industry?  The A.M.A.?) bombed his house?  On the bright side if you go to his website now and mention George you can get a gallon of salt water for only $200.  That's a whopping 60% discount.  Sea salt.  That iodized stuff will kill you.

Coldwell on the right with Gary Trudeau.

Oh, heck.  If he's involved with Trudeau he must be on the up and up.

Clearly I am missing an opportunity. I live in Louisiana and will sell you all of the salt water you want for $50.00 a 5 gallon bucket. I will provide the bucket. Yes indeed a work at home shceme I can get behind.

[SnapT]

Coldwell on the right with Gary Trudeau.

I think you mean KEVIN Trudeau.  You don't want to get sued by the esteemed cartoonist of DOONESBURY...

[valdez]

I think you mean KEVIN Trudeau.  You don't want to get sued by the esteemed cartoonist of DOONESBURY...

     Yipes.  You are correct.  My apologies.  Gary Trudeau is an upstanding individual who does not make a living bending the truth in any...wait a minute...hold on....

[fysisist]

Honestly, I don't think that Noory, no matter how inept he is, deserves a serious illness.  Unemployment?  Well, that's another matter entirely....

Yeah, for sure.  I mean the poor man is already dealing with retardation, which is a serious illness in and of itself.

[bmd88]

From their site  "...will discuss the latest discoveries about the nature of the disease and why he believes chemotherapy, radiation, and mammograms cause cancer."

If he takes his own advice and seeks the help from his guests he should be dead in a few months and we can go back to a host who does not endanger the health of his listeners to get his jollies.

As much as I dislike George, you've misread.  The quote was about how the GUEST believes those things, not George, and about the guest coming on to explain why he believes what he does.

Turns out the good doctor is also a 911 Truther.

Hmm, I wouldn't try to equate that with being bat shit crazy.  If anyone actually believes 9/11 happened the way it's widely reported, he should spend more time exercising basic critical thinking.

[WOTR]

As much as I dislike George, you've misread.  The quote was about how the GUEST believes those things, not George, and about the guest coming on to explain why he believes what he does.

Hmm, I wouldn't try to equate that with being bat shit crazy.  If anyone actually believes 9/11 happened the way it's widely reported, he should spend more time exercising basic critical thinking.

Yes, I realize that is what the guest believes.  However, George has given the guest a platform and refuses to ask the hard questions as usual.  I think the only point where he might have cast some doubt on the guests claims was when he asked if a doctor might have been put in prison for NOT curing cancer rather than for curing it with a machine as his guest claimed.  When the doctor responded that everybody ever treated with the machine was cured Grorge just accepted it.

The doctor claims that another MD was put in prison for curing several people with apricot pits.  Later the doctor claims that the authorities will not prosecute him because they don't want a trial to cause the public release and publicity of the information he holds.  Back to critical thinking... how is it that the authorities will not prosecute him but will prosecute all of these other doctors who have cured cancer through the ages?

I'm sorry- but unless George were to give some honest warnings and point out that if salt water had cured hundreds of cases that word of mouth would make it spread.  Instead he played the sidekick to the doctor.  On a topic like this you are not allowed to be complacent in the spread of misinformation without being held accountable.  No, I'm sorry, but George does not get a pass for the use of his show as a vehicle for this information anymore than the doctor gets a pass just because he honestly believes what he says (provided that he actually does and that it is not just about profit.) 

As we are engaging in critical thinking I would like to know if the doctor really believes that 17 "bodyguards" at his upcomming seminar would actually prevent his assissanition?  Would the NWO really wait for him in public?  If they are as powerful as the claims, would 17 armed men really stop them?  The doctor seemed to hint that the drug companies made an attempt on his life.  Apparently, in the guests world a hit man stops if the attempt was unsuccessful.  Did the man who made the attempt return the cheque to Bayer when he failed?

Had George even invited a "traditional" oncologist to be interviewed alongside this "doctor" it would be passable.  Using his show to spread propaganda unchallenged makes him complicit.

[coaster]

I tuned into the show tonight. The first thing I heard was George saying the internet would go down world wide if the power went out, or something to that effect. I realized I didn't have the patience for Noory tonight, so I found something else to do.

[valdez]

...I didn't have the patience for Noory tonight, so I found something else to do.

     In that case you missed Richard C. talking about the falling space junk, followed by Deborah Pratt, who wrote for the classic Quantum Leap t.v, show, of which George gave no indication whether he actually saw an episode or not, and Pratt saying George had "one of the greatest minds on the planet",  and then Doug Elwell talking about Planet X, and George mumbling something about there being "something out there...somewhere", and the interview fizzling away, because Elwell was such a bore, and George had gone through his index cards three and a half times, so they called back Richard C. to talk about the comet Elenin, and anything else he wanted to talk about, thus salvaging the last hour of the show.
 

cool

[stevesh]

     In that case you missed Richard C. talking about the falling space junk, followed by Deborah Pratt, who wrote for the classic Quantum Leap t.v, show, of which George gave no indication whether he actually saw an episode or not, and Pratt saying George had "one of the greatest minds on the planet",  and then Doug Elwell talking about Planet X, and George mumbling something about there being "something out there...somewhere", and the interview fizzling away, because Elwell was such a bore, and George had gone through his index cards three and a half times, so they called back Richard C. to talk about the comet Elenin, and anything else he wanted to talk about, thus salvaging the last hour of the show.

Sadly, I did listen to the show. More fundamentalist Christianity, anyone ? It seems we can't even have a discussion about PLANET FREAKING X  without dragging in the Bible and End Times. Who's agenda is this, I wonder ? Noory's beliefs change depending on who he's talking to, so it isn't him.

[bmd88]

Yes, I realize that is what the guest believes.  However, George has given the guest a platform and refuses to ask the hard questions as usual.  I think the only point where he might have cast some doubt on the guests claims was when he asked if a doctor might have been put in prison for NOT curing cancer rather than for curing it with a machine as his guest claimed.  When the doctor responded that everybody ever treated with the machine was cured Grorge just accepted it.

The doctor claims that another MD was put in prison for curing several people with apricot pits.  Later the doctor claims that the authorities will not prosecute him because they don't want a trial to cause the public release and publicity of the information he holds.  Back to critical thinking... how is it that the authorities will not prosecute him but will prosecute all of these other doctors who have cured cancer through the ages?

I'm sorry- but unless George were to give some honest warnings and point out that if salt water had cured hundreds of cases that word of mouth would make it spread.  Instead he played the sidekick to the doctor.  On a topic like this you are not allowed to be complacent in the spread of misinformation without being held accountable.  No, I'm sorry, but George does not get a pass for the use of his show as a vehicle for this information anymore than the doctor gets a pass just because he honestly believes what he says (provided that he actually does and that it is not just about profit.) 

As we are engaging in critical thinking I would like to know if the doctor really believes that 17 "bodyguards" at his upcomming seminar would actually prevent his assissanition?  Would the NWO really wait for him in public?  If they are as powerful as the claims, would 17 armed men really stop them?  The doctor seemed to hint that the drug companies made an attempt on his life.  Apparently, in the guests world a hit man stops if the attempt was unsuccessful.  Did the man who made the attempt return the cheque to Bayer when he failed?

Had George even invited a "traditional" oncologist to be interviewed alongside this "doctor" it would be passable.  Using his show to spread propaganda unchallenged makes him complicit.

My point was that you were trying to pass the quote from the website as the "he" being Noory, when, in fact, it was referring to the doctor.  Just because George is a moron and cannot ask a question, doesn't mean he agrees with everything the guest says.  Also, when I mentioned critical thinking, I was referring to the other poster's reference to questioning 9/11 as akin to being crazy.

Back on topic- sure, George is ignorant for not questioning this man's ideas, but this is the way George is with every guest.  All that was needed was intelligent questioning/ challenging by Noory, not a "traditional oncologist". (Ian could have handled the interview sufficiently alone) That's like saying for every guest on the program who raises questions about the status quo, the host is required to have a counteracting voice on the program.  Art didn't even do that.  In my opinion, it is good to have different views aired out.  Who is to say traditional oncology is not propaganda?  No doubt it is.  It's funny, because would you have been accusing an oncologist of being murderous?  People die of traditional cancer "therapies" every day- why isn't a bigger stink made of that? I've probably had more people die of and suffer through cancer in my immediate family and community than anyone on this board, and I can assure you that chemo, rad., and surgery is not working.  Even if this particular guest's views are not sound, I am grateful that the topic is being discussed at all.  People need to start questioning this entire disease - from environmental causations to deadly treatments- it's time to start talking.

[beachcomber]

Yes, I realize that is what the guest believes.  However, George has given the guest a platform and refuses to ask the hard questions as usual.  I think the only point where he might have cast some doubt on the guests claims was when he asked if a doctor might have been put in prison for NOT curing cancer rather than for curing it with a machine as his guest claimed.  When the doctor responded that everybody ever treated with the machine was cured Grorge just accepted it.

The doctor claims that another MD was put in prison for curing several people with apricot pits.  Later the doctor claims that the authorities will not prosecute him because they don't want a trial to cause the public release and publicity of the information he holds.  Back to critical thinking... how is it that the authorities will not prosecute him but will prosecute all of these other doctors who have cured cancer through the ages?

I'm sorry- but unless George were to give some honest warnings and point out that if salt water had cured hundreds of cases that word of mouth would make it spread.  Instead he played the sidekick to the doctor.  On a topic like this you are not allowed to be complacent in the spread of misinformation without being held accountable.  No, I'm sorry, but George does not get a pass for the use of his show as a vehicle for this information anymore than the doctor gets a pass just because he honestly believes what he says (provided that he actually does and that it is not just about profit.) 

As we are engaging in critical thinking I would like to know if the doctor really believes that 17 "bodyguards" at his upcomming seminar would actually prevent his assissanition?  Would the NWO really wait for him in public?  If they are as powerful as the claims, would 17 armed men really stop them?  The doctor seemed to hint that the drug companies made an attempt on his life.  Apparently, in the guests world a hit man stops if the attempt was unsuccessful.  Did the man who made the attempt return the cheque to Bayer when he failed?

Had George even invited a "traditional" oncologist to be interviewed alongside this "doctor" it would be passable.  Using his show to spread propaganda unchallenged makes him complicit.

Actually, the doctor said that he was being targeted due to his speaking about "the Illuminati and 2012" at his upcoming seminar - he said it kind of fast, mumbled it really, just as GN was going to break.
I half-expected  this to be taken up after the break since Noory is always citing those 2 subjects out of context I'd think he would be interested since the subjects were brought up specifically  by a Noory-friendly guest.
But Coldwell might well be paranoid after his car was blown up - did that Illuminati / 2012 whistleblower comment give him The Fear?

[WOTR]

My point was that you were trying to pass the quote from the website as the "he" being Norry, when, in fact, it was referring to the doctor.  Just because George is a moron and cannot ask a question, doesn't mean he agrees with everything the guest says.  Also, when I mentioned critical thinking, I was referring to the other poster's reference to questioning 9/11 as akin to being crazy.
...Who is to say traditional oncology is not propaganda?  No doubt it is.  It's funny, because would you have been accusing an oncologist of being murderous? 

I had not put in a disclaimer such as "the guest" prior to my quote.  For that I apologize.  After listening to the program though, I don't think that anybody would believe that Norry does not endorse the doctors ideas and dislike mainstream medicine.  Again, if you give somebody a platform, agree with them at every turn and give the "information" out to millions of listeners, you become at least partially responsible for the actions that those people take (realizing that everybody has free will.)

When it comes to curing crap with cumin or most of his other topics I don't care.  Cancer is such an emotionally charged subject, and many of the people suffering with it so desperate to avoid the pain and slow, lingering death that it is unfair to them to put a show like this out.  Some balance, some form of questioning, some factual evidence would be great.

I had mentioned before that there is no doubt that there are alternative therapies that help.  Scientists have found a number of things that help prevent cancer.  This is great stuff to put out there.  Telling people that you can cure any cancer in 2-6 weeks "providing that the medical doctors have not done too much damage" is crap and preying on the emotions of people when they are at their weakest..  Anybody with a 100% success rate for curing cancer does not need to go on an overnight radio show to push his ideas.  The thousands of cured patients who were terminal are going to be on the internet spreading the word that you just drink a gallon of saltwater and "poof, it's gone."

We have both, apparently, lost people to cancer.  You seem to say that the treatment does not work.  I agree, in many cases it does not (or I would not have lost them out of my life.)  However, this doctor does not say that traditional treatments don't work- he says that traditional treatments are what kills the people.  In reality, cancer is ugly and in many cases, is fatal DESPITE the efforts of doctors, not because of them.  A man like this is pushing his own agenda and making good money doing it.  George seems to have sent him at least 4 million more potential customers.

I think that we both agree that looking into alternative therapies is a good thing.  Looking at how we can prevent cancer by lifestyle and nutrition is an excellent idea.  Where we seem to part ways is whether it is moral to allow your show to be used as a platform to push completely unproven ideas and therapies while warning people that the doctor will poison you slowly resulting in your death if you listen to them.

[PB the Deplorable]

Sadly, I did listen to the show. More fundamentalist Christianity, anyone ? It seems we can't even have a discussion about PLANET FREAKING X  without dragging in the Bible and End Times. Who's agenda is this, I wonder ? Noory's beliefs change depending on who he's talking to, so it isn't him.

Noory is much too lazy to get involved with somethig like scheduling guests, or even deciding who to get.  The complete lack of preparation makes me wonder if he even knows who is on before being handed the cue cards and being led to his chair.   Oh sure, aroung the office he'll mention getting Richard C back on - memers of the club like The Number Lady, or he'll meet someone at some convention and suggest they come on, but that's about it.

It was either an email someone posted from a former fill in host, or a post by a displeased guest, where the finger seemed to point to Lisa Lyin being the one that made sure certain topics were featured or limited.  We know George is bored and uninterested, unless it's something about how the doctors are killing us, or how close we are to being wiped out.

Taken together, it's a confused, twisted, contradictory agenda - I think it's more about selling the end-of-times products like storable food than anything else.  Quite the freak show George has going on - in the office, and over the airwaves.

[Morgus]

Deborah Pratt, who wrote for the classic Quantum Leap tv show, of which George gave no indication whether he actually saw an episode or not, and Pratt saying George had "one of the greatest minds on the planet",

Deborah Pratt also provided the female voice of "Ziggy" the Quantum Leap complex computer on the tv show.
She also had a small role in the 80's scifi 3D movie "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone" 

[coaster]

George mumbling something about there being "something out there...somewhere"

I lol'd. Classic Noory...

[Lovely Bones]

Taken together, it's a confused, twisted, contradictory agenda - I think it's more about selling the end-of-times products like storable food than anything else.  Quite the freak show George has going on - in the office, and over the airwaves.

This is what I've been saying, PB.  Scare the sh*t out of the folks, then sell 'em stuff that'll reduce the fear, not completely, but just enough until the next guest comes along with something scarier. 

[Lovely Bones]

Deborah Pratt also provided the female voice of "Ziggy" the Quantum Leap complex computer on the tv show.
She also had a small role in the 80's scifi 3D movie "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone" 

There was an awful moment in Deborah Pratt's segment where she was excitedly describing the themes in her latest Vision Quest project.  Now, I never watched Quantum Leap, I'd never heard of Pratt, I hate most of GN's guests lately, but I was enjoying Pratt's enthusiastic descriptions of what she intended with the project.

Noory had the unmitigated gall to respond to this flurry of actual thought with these words:

"That's how ya gotta do it,"

directly after which he looked at another one of his stupid 3X5 cards and asked a completely unrelated question. 

I don't think he heard a word she said.  Knapp or Ian would have been listening to what she had to say, and both would have responded with a question or a some kind of confirming statement that showed some measure of reflection on her thoughts. 

Noory is so freaking dismissive of anything he doesn't understand.  Which is most things. 

[bmd88]

Where we seem to part ways is whether it is moral to allow your show to be used as a platform to push completely unproven ideas and therapies while warning people that the doctor will poison you slowly resulting in your death if you listen to them.

Personally, I didn't listen to the show.  I thought about it, but it is too emotional for me to sit for hours and listen to the topic.  I'm not sure exactly what "alternatives" the guy's proposing, but I understand what you are saying. I do disagree, though, that listening to oncologists will not result in being slowly poisoned to death.  That's exactly what chemo is.  This is the whole reason we are searching for alternatives.  I think the issue, perhaps, is not whether or not to allow opinions condemning current "therapies" or discussing the need for alternatives, but the presentation of alternatives as a definite solution. 

This is where Noory has failed moral responsibility to research before the show and question and challenge during it.  If I'm correct, this isn't the first time this man has been a guest- he will likely be on again.  Maybe listeners should take up the duty of calling in and questioning since George prefers to twiddle his thumbs.

[fabucat]

Personally, I didn't listen to the show.  I thought about it, but it is too emotional for me to sit for hours and listen to the topic.  I'm not sure exactly what "alternatives" the guy's proposing, but I understand what you are saying. I do disagree, though, that listening to oncologists will not result in being slowly poisoned to death.  That's exactly what chemo is.  This is the whole reason we are searching for alternatives.  I think the issue, perhaps, is not whether or not to allow opinions condemning current "therapies" or discussing the need for alternatives, but the presentation of alternatives as a definite solution. 

This is where Noory has failed moral responsibility to research before the show and question and challenge during it.  If I'm correct, this isn't the first time this man has been a guest- he will likely be on again.  Maybe listeners should take up the duty of calling in and questioning since George prefers to twiddle his thumbs.

I really think that some of us should do this....It appears that all of the confrontational callers are screened out.  Not everyone who listens is a sap, obviously.  Interestingly, Ian isn't afraid to get into a friendly argument with listeners. 

BTW, I felt I couldn't stomach Caldwell after the Iranian CIA operative and George really appeared to be cheering on a US or Israeli attack on Iran.  Thanks, George.  Because 2 1/2 wars aren't nearly enough for the US.  Also the Iranian guy compared the Iranian government to the Nazi regime.  I have less than zero love for the Mullahs, but think WWHD (What Would Hitler Do) if he were running Iran, with Iran so close to a Jewish state?  The fact that the Iranians haven't invaded Israel is proof that they aren't Nazis.  OK, so the fact that Israel has a badass military might be a mitigating factor, but it's not as if the Nazis didn't do some suicidal things, i.e. invading Russia in winter. 

[bmd88]

Interestingly, Ian isn't afraid to get into a friendly argument with listeners. 

This is one thing I really like about Ian's hosting (it's truely a 50/50 thing for me with Ian).  The man obviously knows the definition of engaging radio.  Granted, some people could find his "confrontational" nature not soft enough (the Noory saps), but I find it invigorating- especially when trying to stay away at 3 or 4 am and keep interested.  Even if I don't agree with Ian's point of view, I find myself gaining more respect for him simply because he is NOT George and is willing to butt heads to defend or deflect a point.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

OK, so the fact that Israel has a badass military might be a mitigating factor, but it's not as if the Nazis didn't do some suicidal things, i.e. invading Russia in winter.

The German error in Operation Barbarossa wasn't invading in winter, it was believing they could complete the operation BY winter. 

[b_dubb]

noory's neo con cheerleading for war with Iran is fucking disturbing.  where the fuck does he get off

george you're an irresponsible megalomaniacal asshole

the planet x show turned into a baby jesus end times catastrophe

[stevesh]

Also, when I mentioned critical thinking, I was referring to the other poster's reference to questioning 9/11 as akin to being crazy.

For the record, I didn't say anything of the sort. That was your inference. My point was that the guest in question, far from being a serious medical expert, is all over the map concerning the subjects he writes and lectures about.

I'm something of a 911 Truther myself, though of the there-are-a-lot-of-unanswered-questions variety, rather than the Bush-and-Cheney-personally-flew-the-planes-by-remote-control partisan political nutballs.

[valdez]

     I'm running out of adjectives for pinhead Craig P. Hulet, so I won't even try. What astounds me is how George can agree with everything he says, and when he has on neocon, Greg Hunter, George also agrees with everything Hunter says. It simply not possible. One day somebody should call in and run down the list of things George has said "absolutely" and "theres no doubt about it" to. Memo to George and Hulet: I wouldn't call possible Saudi involvement with 911 "shocking". Words have meaning. The Vatican, or Canada, or Clark Howard being behind 911 would be "shocking". The Saudis not so much.
     First guest Richard Heinburg would have us living in communes rather than continue using and exploiting oil, and gas, and any other of our practical God given energy sources. He also said that the American economy was done, and that it couldn't grow anymore, and as an analogy he spoke of hamsters and how after they are born they double in size every few days until they reach maturity....
     Heinburg: "Now imagine if they just continued to grow. After a year they would..."
     George: "-They would be the size of a guinea pig."
     Heinburg: "...They would weight thousands of tons"
     George: "...Yeah."
     Yeah. Well that's true too. Right, George? Whatever.