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George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

Started by MV/Liberace!, April 06, 2008, 12:23:02 AM

Can Noory pronounce anything correctly?

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Quote from: (Redacted) on March 15, 2015, 10:33:32 PM
How can so many rat-eating haters be wrong?  Think about that, Georgie.   :-\

According to Jorch, he has one hater out there. Bwahahahaha.

NoMoreNoory

Quote from: PChirp on March 15, 2015, 10:06:17 PM
How the fuck does "Dr." Peter Breggin practice psychiatry when he's so against psychotropic drugs?  I've never figured this one out.  Does he literally "talk" a cure into these people, and really, what's his secret?  Psychiatrists ARE MEDICALLY TRAINED to prescribe!  Will never understand.  Get so sick of hearing his "reports" as the C2C mental health "advisor".  Give me a damn break.  If this M.D. performs psychiatric miracles sans pharmaceuticals, I'm astounded!  Whatta guy!  He'd certainly be the FIRST.  Should have stopped with a doctoral psychology Ph.D. instead of even bothering with a petty medical school education.   >:(  And dammit, yes, GNS!

I can assure you that the "talking cure" without meds can and does work. It of course depends on the severity and specific issues an individual is dealing with. I think you're harsh on Breggin. His point is that anti-depressants can work in limited cases and for a limited time, but if they are prescribed for long periods of time can cause more harm than good. Then trying to come off these powerful drugs creates a whole new set of problems.

WOTR

Quote from: PChirp on March 15, 2015, 10:06:17 PM
How the fuck does "Dr." Peter Breggin practice psychiatry when he's so against psychotropic drugs?  I've never figured this one out.  Does he literally "talk" a cure into these people, and really, what's his secret? 
The "good" "doctor" (yes, both must be in quotes), is a revolutionary (or a trekkie.)  As a founder of "emphatic therapy" I think it is most likely that he has modeled his world view on counselor Deanna Troi.  The way he speaks makes me think that he probably dresses up for conventions and believes himself to be a Betazoid.

As to being harsh- I have never heard him state that there are times and cases where medication is necessary.  He is a quack, plain and simple.  He is the psychiatric equivalent of a new age healer practicing their craft on cancer patients.  Could it work?  Sure.  Is there a time and place for it?  Sure.  The problem is that he does not seem to realize that there are limitations and he is content to put people in harms way.

PChirp

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 15, 2015, 10:50:18 PM
I can assure you that the "talking cure" without meds can and does work. It of course depends on the severity and specific issues an individual is dealing with. I think you're harsh on Breggin. His point is that anti-depressants can work in limited cases and for a limited time, but if they are prescribed for long periods of time can cause more harm than good. Then trying to come off these powerful drugs creates a whole new set of problems.

Fantastic!  We can each agree to disagree.  Love these situations.  Have you done ANY research on Breggin via the Internet PRIOR to your post?  He's a quack (or shall I say preferably, "In my opinion...").  Trust me, I'm certainly NOT for prescribing for each and every patient, but give me a damn break, will you?  By the way, what exactly comprises YOUR psychiatric education?  Would LOVE to know.  You must have one hell of a background.  I understand completely what you're saying but he's better off being a practicing psychologist than an M.D., assuming he's still practicing.  Breggin, every damn time he's presented on C2C, is ANTI-drug and you know that.  Everybody knows that. 

Nick el Ass

This weekend went by slow, and it was so cool to not have Noorie polluting the airwaves... but the suck returns on the morrow. Be safe BellGabbers.

zeebo

Quote from: wotr1 on March 15, 2015, 10:53:11 PM
... I have never heard him state that there are times and cases where medication is necessary.  ...

Me either.  And there are bleak times in some people's lives, where the hope of the medication option might be all they can hang on to.  Personally I've always found him irresponsible in how he summarily dismisses meds.  As a doc told me once, anti-depressents aren't some kind of "happy pill" or quick fix - they merely help provide a floor for how low you may feel.  To folks in a dark place this can be a huge comfort. 


zeebo

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 15, 2015, 10:50:18 PM
I can assure you that the "talking cure" without meds can and does work. It of course depends on the severity and specific issues an individual is dealing with.....

I agree with this but I just think Dr. B. overstates the worry about meds, when imho really the bigger worry should be the depression itself.   In fact my understanding is that most folks with moderate or worse symptoms tend to do best with a combo of therapy & meds. 

zeebo

Quote from: Nick el Ass on March 15, 2015, 11:07:23 PM
This weekend went by slow, and it was so cool to not have Noorie polluting the airwaves... but the suck returns on the morrow. Be safe BellGabbers.

I'm so bummed.  The second topic Mon. nite is my fave kind, and it will be wasted with Nooronic questions and trite comments.  So annoying.  This kind of topic is totally over George's head, even if he did show prep for it, which he won't.  Aaarrgh.

2nd Half: Inspired by his interviews with inventor Ray Kurzweil, roboticist Rodney Brooks, and sci-fi legend Arthur C. Clarke, author James Barrat was impressed by their optimism for the future - a time when we will share the planet with intelligent machines. He'll address how corporations and government agencies are pouring billions into A.I., and the possible dangers that may come with this technology.

Heather Wade

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 15, 2015, 10:34:50 PM
Hey, my cat ate a mouse, which is like a rat, and she's pretty damn smart so

Ask the kitty what she thinks of George Noory.  If she says he sucks, you may have a feline BellGabber on your hands.

Quote from: zeebo on March 15, 2015, 11:34:30 PM
I'm so bummed.  The second topic Mon. nite is my fave kind, and it will be wasted with Nooronic questions and trite comments.  So annoying.  This kind of topic is totally over George's head, even if he did show prep for it, which he won't.  Aaarrgh.

2nd Half: Inspired by his interviews with inventor Ray Kurzweil, roboticist Rodney Brooks, and sci-fi legend Arthur C. Clarke, author James Barrat was impressed by their optimism for the future - a time when we will share the planet with intelligent machines. He'll address how corporations and government agencies are pouring billions into A.I., and the possible dangers that may come with this technology.

You're right.  The guy can't handle these subjects.  But, there's hope, zeebo, I heard Art's coming back.   ;)

PChirp

Quote from: zeebo on March 15, 2015, 11:34:15 PM
I agree with this but I just think Dr. B. overstates the worry about meds, when imho really the bigger worry should be the depression itself.   In fact my understanding is that most folks with moderate or worse symptoms tend to do best with a combo of therapy & meds.

Certainly NOTHING  wrong with therapy AND meds (and that's preferable) and I recommend HIGHLY, if possible. I think you have it exactly right, Zeeb!  I cannot express that more significantly.  That's the best scenario.  Anti-depressant medication alone is NOTHING but a temporary bandage leaving a lot of patients 'ambivalent' to their situation.  Is this an antidepressant effect?   Possibly.  A family practice approach, if you will.  Breggin is a 'certified' M.D., a psychiatrist.  Although, he's anti-MEDS---he's a quack.  Would LOVE to know his "SECRETS".   Besides, I'm not interested in debating it here in the GNS! thread.  By the way, where is 'NoMoreNoory', Zeeb?   :o

onan

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 15, 2015, 10:50:18 PM
I can assure you that the "talking cure" without meds can and does work. It of course depends on the severity and specific issues an individual is dealing with. I think you're harsh on Breggin. His point is that anti-depressants can work in limited cases and for a limited time, but if they are prescribed for long periods of time can cause more harm than good. Then trying to come off these powerful drugs creates a whole new set of problems.

I am not aware of "new" problems when discontinuing antidepressants. Some sssri's do need to be titrated down over ~month to avoid some uncomfortable but short lived side effects. Also what do you mean powerful drugs? That seems more pandering than helpful.


Nick el Ass

Quote from: zeebo on March 15, 2015, 11:34:30 PM
I'm so bummed.  The second topic Mon. nite is my fave kind, and it will be wasted with Nooronic questions and trite comments.  So annoying.  This kind of topic is totally over George's head, even if he did show prep for it, which he won't.  Aaarrgh.

2nd Half: Inspired by his interviews with inventor Ray Kurzweil, roboticist Rodney Brooks, and sci-fi legend Arthur C. Clarke, author James Barrat was impressed by their optimism for the future - a time when we will share the planet with intelligent machines. He'll address how corporations and government agencies are pouring billions into A.I., and the possible dangers that may come with this technology.


Yeah, Noorie will ruin a show like that by tying robots into all that he knows about them from watching the likes of the Terminator, and Robocop because it took place in Detroit which is where he is from.

Good luck to those of you listening to this tripe tonight. I'm not going to sit through 2 hours of quackery just to listen to something the Noorie will screw up anyway.  I'll be asleep until the morning, I hope.

Nick el Ass

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 16, 2015, 11:58:00 AM
Good luck to those of you listening to this tripe tonight. I'm not going to sit through 2 hours of quackery just to listen to something the Noorie will screw up anyway.  I'll be asleep until the morning, I hope.

I will aslo be skipping tonight crapfest that is about any show Dave does these days, but mainly because the annual celebration of my escape from the womb is on the morrow. St. Nick el Ass Day.

Quote from: zeebo on March 15, 2015, 11:34:30 PM
I'm so bummed.  The second topic Mon. nite is my fave kind, and it will be wasted with Nooronic questions and trite comments.  So annoying.  This kind of topic is totally over George's head, even if he did show prep for it, which he won't.  Aaarrgh.

2nd Half: Inspired by his interviews with inventor Ray Kurzweil, roboticist Rodney Brooks, and sci-fi legend Arthur C. Clarke, author James Barrat was impressed by their optimism for the future - a time when we will share the planet with intelligent machines. He'll address how corporations and government agencies are pouring billions into A.I., and the possible dangers that may come with this technology.

George:  'Who was your favorite movie robot?

Quote from: Nick el Ass on March 16, 2015, 12:18:32 PM
I will aslo be skipping tonight crapfest that is about any show Dave does these days, but mainly because the annual celebration of my escape from the womb is on the morrow. St. Nick el Ass Day.

Happy birthday, Nick.  Have one on me.


That 2001 was a great movie, wasn't it?  Clarke was certainly right about how things would be on this planet in the 21st century.  Do you think he was clar... clariv... a remote viewer like Edgar Cayce?  What do you think he would have said about the elections in 2016?  I think his movies only went up to 2010.  In that one movie, 2001, I really liked the part where that little green gremlin levitated William Shatner's X-wing starship, and then that big foot ran out there along with Harrison Ford [tries to say "James, your father I am" like Yoda].  Do you think we all have the power to levitate?  I mean, that little gremlin could do it and he looked like a little kid.  Hey, yesterday I was sharing a limo with my two friends from Boeing, and they said Google has a robotic dog.  Why, James, would Google want robotic dogs?  Do you think they plan to use them against ISIS?  Why can't we just drop a tactical nuke and get it over with?  Abiotic oil.

There, I saved you all four hours.

Quote from: Nick el Ass on March 16, 2015, 12:18:32 PM
I will aslo be skipping tonight crapfest that is about any show Dave does these days, but mainly because the annual celebration of my escape from the womb is on the morrow. St. Nick el Ass Day.

Happy Pancake!

Nick el Ass

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 16, 2015, 12:44:21 PM
Happy birthday, Nick.  Have one on me.



Thanks. If I was still a drinker that beer would be a green one, but my body can't handle it anymore.


Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on March 16, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
Happy Pancake!


Thank you too. Pancakes are rather tasty.


albrecht

"You remember the er robot in uh that tv show "Lost in Space?" Bill Mumy, er he is big friend of the program. Twilight Zone and err Bill Mumy. Now what happens with robots and the uh AI? Could they get er emotionals? Like self-driving cars. Hahaha could get road rage? You know uh like the people. Have you noticed? People are uh on edge. I mean they are just going nuts out there? They are wacked-out!"

"if the er robots, as you know my cause, the grid. What happens to the robot if a uh solar er flare and the grid. You know it happened before and we have a cause to stop the er protect the grid. Or EMP?"
-GNS


nextgen.fm

Quote from: zeebo on March 15, 2015, 11:34:30 PM
I'm so bummed.  The second topic Mon. nite is my fave kind, and it will be wasted with Nooronic questions and trite comments.  So annoying.  This kind of topic is totally over George's head, even if he did show prep for it, which he won't.  Aaarrgh.

2nd Half: Inspired by his interviews with inventor Ray Kurzweil, roboticist Rodney Brooks, and sci-fi legend Arthur C. Clarke, author James Barrat was impressed by their optimism for the future - a time when we will share the planet with intelligent machines. He'll address how corporations and government agencies are pouring billions into A.I., and the possible dangers that may come with this technology.

that is a great topic zeeb i will have to look around for that show

oh wait, that's tonight, i don't know if i'll be able to listen



NoMoreNoory

The Ghoul manages to dredge up a dead child story to start the week. A five year old in Vietnam pulled up into the air by a kite before falling to his death.....caught on video. Joorch has clearly been watching on repeat. He describes it as 'one of the most absolutely incredible things I've ever seen.'

Nick el Ass

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on March 16, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
The Ghoul manages to dredge up a dead child story to start the week. A five year old in Vietnam pulled up into the air by a kite before falling to his death.....caught on video. Joorch has clearly been watching on repeat. He describes it as 'one of the most absolutely incredible things I've ever seen.'


You can almost imagine him with a big grin on that mug of his.

NoMoreNoory

Quote from: Nick el Ass on March 16, 2015, 10:18:26 PM

You can almost imagine him with a big grin on that mug of his.

He's missed a trick, though. I'm just catching up on UK news, where a one year old was crushed against a wall by a truck and killed. Surely a one year old trumps a five year old, Dave? But that one wasn't on video, so where's the fun, eh?

zeebo

George with his tragic stories, then following up with an easy-listening Kenny G bumper.  Dude has major cognitive dissonance.

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