George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Uncle Duke]

Couldn't it also be formed by the survivors of an infection?

https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/herd-immunity-how-does-it-work

[albrecht]

https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/herd-immunity-how-does-it-work

Considering it was not until modern times that we had inoculations and vaccines I think it is correct to say there is a possibility of 'herd immunity' coming from survivors of the infection. Otherwise I doubt we would still be around. Vaccines etc are just technology to do what would naturally happen otherwise (and ideally with less drastic effects than the actual full-on infection on the victim, society, or healthcare system.)   One notes, hopefully only for animals, that there are other 'solutions' to various diseases, often seen in culling of sheep, pigs, birds, etc. 
https://books.google.com/books?id=tV5LSztaS2wC&pg=PA68&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false

[Uncle Duke]

Considering it was not until modern times that we had inoculations and vaccines I think it is correct to say there is a possibility of 'herd immunity' coming from survivors of the infection. Otherwise I doubt we would still be around. Vaccines etc are just technology to do what would naturally happen otherwise (and ideally with less drastic effects than the actual full-on infection on the victim, society, or healthcare system.)   One notes, hopefully only for animals, that there are other 'solutions' to various diseases, often seen in culling of sheep, pigs, birds, etc. 
https://books.google.com/books?id=tV5LSztaS2wC&pg=PA68&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false

That assumes all viruses are fatal, and once you've had a virus you can't get it again.  Neither are true.  As the immunologist in the medical paper explained, the idea is for the vaccinated to not only be immune, but also to cut down on the exposure by those who have not been vaccinated.   Herd immunity comes when there is no one left to spread the virus.

[At the stroke of midnight]

Thomas in La Jolla, the most practiced and polished a**-kisser I have ever heard, really out-did himself last night.

[Dateline]

Does Norry read here for inspiration and show summaries?  What does everyone think? 

[NoMoreNoory]

That assumes all viruses are fatal, and once you've had a virus you can't get it again.  Neither are true.  As the immunologist in the medical paper explained, the idea is for the vaccinated to not only be immune, but also to cut down on the exposure by those who have not been vaccinated.   Herd immunity comes when there is no one left to spread the virus.

It depends on the virus, surely. I had measles (and chickenpox, mumps and whooping cough when these were just regarded as common or garden childhood illnesses) as a boy and have natural immunity because (so far) the measles virus never mutates. This is also why measles vaccines are effective.
The reason cold and flu viruses are so successful is that they always mutate, and the reason flu vaccines are only moderately successful is that this year’s vaccine is based on last year’s virus: this year’s virus may not be impressed.
Because this feller is new, we don’t know what it’s going to do next. We should assume it will mutate, because that’s what coronaviruses do. And if it does, we won’t know until we get there whether this was just the warm-up. In 1918, it was the second wave that really did the damage. This might get worse or mutate into a milder form (for now), or just hang around for a bit and go away. It calls the shots: we can only wait, watch and arm ourselves with as much understanding of the virus as we can muster to prepare for it.

[albrecht]

Does Norry read here for inspiration and show summaries?  What does everyone think?

Norry is really Hendrie doing a parody of late night talk radio. He possibly is also doing some of the guests and callers also, except when he has Bill Hicks (Alex Jones) on. Kaufman assumed leadership of Priemer Radio Networks after some bailout cash from IHateMedia from Elvis in a corporate mist tunnel. Post his "death" the estate can fund radio even at a loss so Art could retire for some SE Asian 'tourism' and get out of the desert  and radio dramas.

[At the stroke of midnight]

Does Norry read here for inspiration and show summaries?  What does everyone think?

He did at one time, because he once sent me a personal message. I'm guessing he still does.

[NoMoreNoory]

Gnoory was the handle, I think. Had a period when he posted quite a lot. I remember being shocked that quite a few here were being nice to him. He was also seen to be lurking quite a bit. It was at the height of his rants about haters and rat-eating basement-dwellers. He hasn’t posted in years, and I don’t think he’s paying much attention to us anymore.

[CronkitesGhost]

George continues to question why herd immunity is important, although it's been explained many times before.  Her immunity is essential so that people who do not qualify for immunizations can remain healthy.  Like infants, maybe hemophiliacs, boys in bubbles, maybe people with leukemia, people at high risk for Guillan-Barre or AFM, and so on.  Infants, George.  Don't you want infants to remain free of potentially fatal contagions?  Considering your venues don't have cry rooms, I'm not sure you have given enough thought to all the infants of the world.  A father and grandfather... but still doesn't allow babies at shows.  A baby should be with its parent - not with some baby sitter.  At least until it's past 1 year old.  And a breast feeding mother should be able to attend special events, not sequester herself for an entire year.  You discriminate.  Have you even checked to see the cost of venues with cry rooms?  Have you considered a portable cry room with video?  How hard can it be to have an usher (people would volunteer you know) walk a lady to a trailer with video and microphone while her baby cries?  After all, you don't come to every area every year.  It could be a once-in-a-lifetime event for her.

uh there's not a female Coast listener who even remembers having periods let alone any who have babies today.

only reason for a 'cry room' at a Noory live show is for audience members who have lost the person they came with to a heart attack or stroke during the show.

[Jojo]

McCanney said last night that his WING generator won the X-Prize for Water Abundance.

Not according to this.

Actually that is exactly what the link says.  You do this every time!  With you yes means no and no means yes.
For those who want a URL instead of a link, here:
https://water.xprize.org/prizes/water-abundance/teams/jmcc_wing
The claimer's initials are right there in the url.

[ItsOver]

Gnoory was the handle, I think. Had a period when he posted quite a lot. I remember being shocked that quite a few here were being nice to him. He was also seen to be lurking quite a bit. It was at the height of his rants about haters and rat-eating basement-dwellers. He hasn’t posted in years, and I don’t think he’s paying much attention to us anymore.

Here's his BG profile link.

https://bellgab.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3351



Yeah, those were hilarious times.  Jorch trying to take on various BG'ers and failing, promising to up his game, Art calling out Jorch, the time Jorch got so involved with BG posting during a C2C show, he forgot about his guest... ha, ha, ... good times, good times.  It's all still here, if you want to find it.

[ItsOver]

Chicago style beef dogs, the best!

Jorch's declaration of one of his fave foods. 

[NoMoreNoory]

Jorch's declaration of one of his fave foods. 

Turkey sammidges and pizza rolls are in mourning.

[expat]

Actually that is exactly what the link says.  You do this every time!  With you yes means no and no means yes.
For those who want a URL instead of a link, here:
https://water.xprize.org/prizes/water-abundance/teams/jmcc_wing
The claimer's initials are right there in the url.

No, Skysource/Skywater won.

https://water.xprize.org/prizes/water-abundance/articles/waxp-grand-prize-winner

[ItsOver]

Now iA gotta tell you--Im told Goatsy is an internet slang for a guy who bends over and does bizarre things...you were pulling this ol guy's chain..werent you? Come clean Ross

Another Gnoory classhic.   

[ItsOver]

Turkey sammidges and pizza rolls are in mourning.

Heh, Jorch's idea of a balanced diet. No wonder he thinks he needs Tangy Tangerine with a beet chaser.

[Uncle Duke]

It depends on the virus, surely. I had measles (and chickenpox, mumps and whooping cough when these were just regarded as common or garden childhood illnesses) as a boy and have natural immunity because (so far) the measles virus never mutates. This is also why measles vaccines are effective.
The reason cold and flu viruses are so successful is that they always mutate, and the reason flu vaccines are only moderately successful is that this year’s vaccine is based on last year’s virus: this year’s virus may not be impressed.
Because this feller is new, we don’t know what it’s going to do next. We should assume it will mutate, because that’s what coronaviruses do. And if it does, we won’t know until we get there whether this was just the warm-up. In 1918, it was the second wave that really did the damage. This might get worse or mutate into a milder form (for now), or just hang around for a bit and go away. It calls the shots: we can only wait, watch and arm ourselves with as much understanding of the virus as we can muster to prepare for it.

Yep.  That's why an effective vaccine is necessary for herd immunity, and an effective vaccine is likely only for a virus that doesn't mutate.  That's also why there is no common cold vaccine, and why seasonally flu vaccines are a crapshoot.  And yes, measles is a great example of virus that is seldom fatal, doesn't mutate, you will not get again once you've had it, and for which there is an effective vaccine. Doubt we'll be that fortunate with COVID-19, and I have a bad feeling about its second wave considering how casually many are taking it now as states have started reopening.

[Juan]

I’m back listening after several years hiatus. My impression is that sNoory is moderately better at listening to his guests, but that the callers are much, much worse.

[ItsOver]

Yep.  That's why an effective vaccine is necessary for herd immunity, and an effective vaccine is likely only for a virus that doesn't mutate.  That's also why there is no common cold vaccine, and why seasonally flu vaccines are a crapshoot.  And yes, measles is a great example of virus that is seldom fatal, doesn't mutate, you will not get again once you've had it, and for which there is an effective vaccine. Doubt we'll be that fortunate with COVID-19, and I have a bad feeling about its second wave considering how casually many are taking it now as states have started reopening.

But, with the flu vaccine, even if you get still get the flu, it usually is a milder case.  It could be the difference between just feeling lousy and six feet under.  Hopefully, something similar with Corona Chan, but who knows.  A vaccine could work great, not at all, or something in between.  We shall see.

[Jackstar]

an effective vaccine is necessary

Just shut your whorish mouth.

I have a bad feeling about its second wave

The weak should fear the strong.

[GravitySucks]

But, with the flu vaccine, even if you get still get the flu, it usually is a milder case.  It could be the difference between just feeling lousy and six feet under.  Hopefully, something similar with Corona Chan, but who knows.  A vaccine could work great, not at all, or something in between.  We shall see.

The BCG vaccine for TB will probably end up being the safest, simplest, fastest to approve, and most cost effective solution.

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/bcg-vaccine-tb-covid-19-3535337/

[Uncle Duke]

The weak should fear the strong.

*lol*  And I've never feared you.....

[ItsOver]

The BCG vaccine for TB will probably end up being the safest, simplest, fastest to approve, and most cost effective solution.

https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/bcg-vaccine-tb-covid-19-3535337/

Interesting.  I hadn't even heard of the BCG vaccine, until now.  I'm hoping that less than a year from now, there'll be a number of effective options.

[Jackstar]

I've never feared you

Well, that is by design: I am not finished learning from you.

Yet.

[GravitySucks]

Interesting.  I hadn't even heard of the BCG vaccine, until now.  I'm hoping that less than a year from now, there'll be a number of effective options.

It’s probably a big reason why some countries have very large populations but very few cases. India for example. The US uses a different vaccine. 

I was perplexed at the UK numbers because England requires the BCG vaccine.  But when you consider that more than half of the deaths are people over 80, they may not have received the vaccine as a child.  To really quantify it you would also need to know the country of origin of the people that got sick/died.  10-15% of their population is foreign born.

This is a relatively safe vaccine with lots of case history around the world.  It’s been around for nearly 100 years.  I would take this one before I would take one Bill Gates was backing.

Although India might be immune because of all the turmeric.

#GNS

[At the stroke of midnight]

When the second guest last night started to wander off the rez into the topic of homosexuality, I was listening with glee, waiting for panic to enter George's voice, and for his desperate attempts to steer the conversation towards safe topics. I was not disappointed,  because soon the guest said the words: anal sex, and panic ensued. These are the moments of high entertainment, that make it worth listening to the boring stuff on C2C, which is most of the stuff.

[Morgus]

Noory has a recorded interview with his mom Georgette on now, for her 91st birthday.

[Dateline]

She said one of the secrets is to be kind to people,  from Norry "crickets."  How could he be kind when She'-She' is a living testimony of his cruelty.

[At the stroke of midnight]

One of Snoorge's most irritating habits, is how he must connect every topic to a film. He does this because, instead of having a basket full of life experiences to relate to topics, all he has are movie memories. Last night the first guest was perplexed and baffled when George thrust her into a trivia contest about a movie she (and I) had never heard of. The reference seemed to come out of nowhere. The guest maintained her savoir faire, but must have been thinking what an idiot he was.

George's mom comes across as a sweet, salt-of-the-earth person. At times she must ponder how it was she spawned such a materialistic son, who's only interests seem to be career, making money, his health, and watching movies.

"I would take food out of my mouth to feed the hungry". George's constant virtue-signaling does get tiresome.