George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[pate]

.... And then either George or the caller suggested it was in a parallel universe.

That's pretty rough, but it was along those lines.

Wait, you are suggesting that Jorch lives in a parallel universe?> 


I've been hinting at that for years!@  How has no one picked up on that?

edit: NO COINCIDENCES!

2ndedit: fu' reelz!

[Morgus]

Noory's caller singers were even worse than his Sunday submerging artists - at least they don't all do the same song over and over.
Noory even capped the show with a recording of Frank Sinatra singing the exact same song, like we hadn't heard it enough already tonight, wasting even more time.
How many new caller predictions did he get tonight? 10 at most? Art would get 100-150 typically...

Noory has now stuck a stake in the heart and killed off both of c2cam's special show traditions: Ghost to Ghost AM and now the New Year's Eve caller predictions show. He changes their format to be just like one of his ordinary Friday night shows...

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I could care less what wonk wire states.  Obamacare has destroyed the full-time labor force.  Many people can only get part time jobs.  Less people have benefits from their job.....oh what's the use you're not going to get through to me and I'm not going to waste my time trying to get through to you.  Save your talking points for the politics thread.

The number of full time jobs in the U.S has increased from 116.88 million to 119.44 million from November 2013 to November 2014. 
http://www.statista.com/statistics/192361/unadjusted-monthly-number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-us/


Job benefits have been declining for years prior to Obamacare and I haven't read a single argument that Obamacare has had anything to do with it since.


Wonk Wire is a politically neutral website that posts factually based articles from a variety of news sources and academics, so, of course you don't care what it says.

I wouldn't have responded given what you said, but I don't want to leave factual errors unanswered.

I don't post 'talking points', I post facts.

You, however, post bullshit 'talking points' taken mindlessly from Faux News or Rush Dimbaugh.


To quote Faux News or Dimbaugh "durrr durrr durrr"


Oh, and "could care less" means you do care.

[pate]

.... Obamacare has destroyed the full-time labor force.  ...

I also have hacked into that site, it is funny, what if we revealed to the world how hilarious it really is?  I know that is so two years ago when it was released, or open ported to the 'tubes...  wouldn't it be funny if we showed how easily it could still be hacked? 

Dang, "they" know exaceggctly which mcmuffin I am boredcasting frum, free wifi is just that FREEWIDFI!
Bewbs!

edit: totally misspelt "Bwebs" apologies

2ndeidiot: also missed some punctuation...

[136 or 142]

Noory's caller singers were even worse than his Sunday submerging artists - at least they don't all do the same song over and over.
Noory even capped the show with a recording of Frank Sinatra singing the exact same song, like we hadn't heard it enough already tonight, wasting even more time.
How many new caller predictions did he get tonight? 10 at most? Art would get 100-150 typically...

Noory has now stuck a stake in the heart and killed off both of c2cam's special show traditions: Ghost to Ghost AM and now the New Year's Eve caller predictions show. He changes their format to be just like one of his ordinary Friday night shows...

Do we really need more idiotic callers bashing Obama?  I have mixed feelings about Obama, but the callers are moronic: "Obama is going to suspend the constitution" "Obama is going to start a race war" "Obama is going to start a religious war" "Obama is going to be discovered to be the antichrist" "Obama/Obamacare is going to destroy the economy"

[21st Century Man]

The number of full time jobs in the U.S has increased from 116.88 million to 119.44 million from November 2013 to November 2014. 
http://www.statista.com/statistics/192361/unadjusted-monthly-number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-us/


Job benefits have been declining for years prior to Obamacare and I haven't read a single argument that Obamacare has had anything to do with it since.


Wonk Wire is a politically neutral website that posts factually based articles from a variety of news sources and academics, so, of course you don't care what it says.

I don't post 'talking points', I post facts.


I wouldn't have responded given what you said, but I don't want to leave factual errors unanswered.

You, however, post bullshit 'talking points' taken mindlessly from Faux News or Rush Dimbaugh.


To quote Faux News or Dimbaugh "durrr durrr durrr"


Oh, and "could care less" means you do care.

Look, you don't know me and I don't know you so don't place me in a stereotype and I won't do the same to you.  This is the last thing I'm going to post on this thread  about your "facts" as you call them.  The numbers come from the White House and I don't believe you can trust anything this White House says. And no, I'm not a birther but Obama has not been forthcoming about his background, that's for sure.  As for wonk wire, here are the stats from Wikipedia about the people that follow Wonk Wire.


Its principal readers may be summarized as follows:
White (non-Latino)[5]
Mixed religion [6]
Males [7]
Self-identified Democrats [8]
Between the ages of 21 to 65 [9]
Highly educated


I identify with all of these except for one.  Notice that Republicans and Independents are not on the list though I'm sure the Rhinos also follow wonk wire. 


Obamacare sucks and nobody should be forced to enroll in it.  It needs to be repealed in 2016.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

MV has some karaoke on his ufo steam tonight for the New Year. GN must have caught onto this and done it on his show. Jimmy Church will be doing it soon.

[ItsOver]

...Does GEORGE know how to do radio?

No.  He does know how to do suck, though.  I'll give him that.

[21st Century Man]

Happy New Years, Georgy Porgey.  You suck even more now than you did this time last year.

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"Look, dimwit, you don't know me and I don't know you so don't place me in a stereotype and I won't do the same to you.  This is the last thing I'm going to post on this thread  about your "facts" as you call them.  The numbers come from the White House and I don't believe you can trust anything this White House says. And no, I'm not a birther but Obama has not been forthcoming about his background, that's for sure."


Well, dimwit, other than not releasing his education records (which I believe just came out this week) I'm not sure what information about his background hasn't come out.  We know where he's lived, we know his prior occupations, we know his health records...  I'm also not sure what Obama being forthcoming about his background has to do with whether or not the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases accurate records.  Given that you're a Republican, however, I'm aware that premises and conclusions don't come easily to you.

While you may not be a birther, you clearly are a conspiracy theorist.  The business community, the investment community and with the exception of a couple high profile nutters, the academic community all do take the records form the Bureau of Labor Statistics and records put out by other government departments as gospel.  Given that all of the stats put out by these departments are found to be in concurrence with private sector organizations that put out similar statistics (Gallup on employment, the billion prices project on inflation...) that isn't a surprise.


Of course, since you take the lies from Faux News and Rush Dimbaugh as gospel, you'd have to disbelieve the factual statistics put out by government departments.


Of course, like most conspiracy theories yours falls apart at the first serious examination.  If the Obama administration did attempt to doctor the stats of those departments the non partisan statisticians and economists who work there would howl in protest and many would resign.  Despite the sleazy attempt of right wingers to demonize civil servants, many of these people are highly qualified and would have no trouble finding work in the private sector. Since this hasn't happened...








"As for wonk wire, here are the stats from Wikipedia about the people that follow Wonk Wire.


Its principal readers may be summarized as follows:
White (non-Latino)[5]
Mixed religion [6]
Males [7]
Self-identified Democrats [8]
Between the ages of 21 to 65 [9]
Highly educated


I identify with all of these except for one.  Notice that Republicans and Independents are not on the list though I'm sure the Rhinos also follow wonk wire." 


I have no idea what that has to do with the accuracy of Wonk Wire.  I would have assumed the one you don't identify with is "Democrat" but that can't be right since, because your a Republican supporter, you probably didn't even complete high school.  To quote you: "durrr durrr durrr"

Also, I don't know when wiki published that, but given that a link to wonk wire is now posted on Roll Call, which is lip read by a lot of Republicans, that has likely changed.

"Obamacare sucks and nobody should be forced to enroll in it.  It needs to be repealed in 2016."

Millions of Americans who didn't have health insurance now have it thanks to Obamacare.  As Congressman Alan Grayson correctly said "the Republican solution to healthcare for the uninsured is 'die quickly'"


I'm a Canadian, and I can tell you that even many Conservative Party supporters here in Canada are appalled at what a freak show the Rethuglican Party has become.  (For instance about 60% of Conservative Party supporters would have voted for Obama in 2012)

[21st Century Man]

"Look, dimwit, you don't know me and I don't know you so don't place me in a stereotype and I won't do the same to you.  This is the last thing I'm going to post on this thread  about your "facts" as you call them.  The numbers come from the White House and I don't believe you can trust anything this White House says. And no, I'm not a birther but Obama has not been forthcoming about his background, that's for sure."


Well, dimwit, other than not releasing his education records (which I believe just came out this week) I'm not sure what information about his background hasn't come out.  We know where he's lived, we know his prior occupations, we know his health records...  I'm also not sure what Obama being forthcoming about his background has to do with whether or not the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases accurate records.  Given that you're a Republican, however, I'm aware that premises and conclusions don't come easily to you.

While you may not be a birther, you clearly are a conspiracy theorist.  The business community, the investment community and with the exception of a couple high profile nutters, the academic community all do take the records form the Bureau of Labor Statistics and records put out by other government departments as gospel.  Given that all of the stats put out by these departments are found to be in concurrence with private sector organizations that put out similar statistics (Gallup on employment, the billion prices project on inflation...) that isn't a surprise.


Of course, since you take the lies from Faux News and Rush Dimbaugh as gospel, you'd have to disbelieve the factual statistics put out by government departments.


Of course, like most conspiracy theories yours falls apart at the first serious examination.  If the Obama administration did attempt to doctor the stats of those departments the non partisan statisticians and economists who work there would howl in protest and many would resign.  Despite the sleazy attempt of right wingers to demonize civil servants, many of these people are highly qualified and would have no trouble finding work in the private sector. Since this hasn't happened...








As for wonk wire, here are the stats from Wikipedia about thepeople that follow Wonk Wire.


Its principal readers may be summarized as follows:
White (non-Latino)[5]
Mixed religion [6]
Males [7]
Self-identified Democrats [8]
Between the ages of 21 to 65 [9]
Highly educated


I identify with all of these except for one.  Notice that Republicans and Independents are not on the list though I'm sure the Rhinos also follow wonk wire. 


I have no idea what that has to do with the accuracy of Wonk Wire.  I would have assumed the one you don't identify with is "Democrat" but that can't be right since, because your a Republican supporter, you probably didn't even complete high school.  To quote you: "durrr durrr durrr"


Obamacare sucks and nobody should be forced to enroll in it.  It needs to be repealed in 2016.


Millions of Americans who didn't have health insurance now have it thanks to Obamacare.  As Congressman Alan Grayson correctly said "the Republican solution to healthcare for the uninsured is 'die quickly'"

I shouldn't have called you a dimwit and I'm sorry but at the same time I couldn't disagree with you more.  My political philosophy comes from the Founders who would be aghast at how far we have strayed from Constitutional principles.

I'll leave with this and I promise the rest here I'll shut up from my end.  I'm going to bed anyway. 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have - Thomas Jefferson 

[Mind Flayer Monk]

The business community, the investment community...do take the records form the Bureau of Labor Statistics and records put out by other government departments as gospel.

This isn't true. Many companies develop internal metrics and arbitrage between the published stat and what they feel is the "true" stat.

[136 or 142]

I shouldn't have called you a dimwit and I'm sorry but at the same time I couldn't disagree with you more.  My political philosophy comes from the Founders who would be aghast at how far we have strayed from Constitutional principles.

I'll leave with this and I promise the rest here I'll shut up from my end.  I'm going to bed anyway. 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have - Thomas Jefferson

As a Canadian I'm not too familiar with the U.S Constitution but I've read from many legal scholars that it's so vague in so many parts that anybody can read into it pretty much anything they want to. So, while tea baggers believe the government has strayed, it's pretty much impossible to say that.


Regarding Thomas Jefferson, given that he wanted Americans to remain a nation of "citizen farmers",  I'm not sure how much he should be quoted.  To be fair, I have no idea if he believed that government should coerce the citizenry to remain this way or if he believed that government should enact policies to try to ensure this occured.

[136 or 142]

This isn't true. Many companies develop internal metrics and arbitrage between the published stat and what they feel is the "true" stat.

Do you have any reports/web sites or anything that sites this?

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Do you have any reports/web sites or anything that sites this?

These are closely-guarded corporate secrets. If you wanted to research more, probably books on program trading would be your best bet.
Or are you interested in specific algorithms?

[pate]

Damn edit time ooots (sp out?) Jorch iGnoory sucks!

or:

JIS

[136 or 142]

These are closely-guarded corporate secrets. If you wanted to research more, probably books on program trading would be your best bet.
Or are you interested in specific algorithms?

No, I just want some evidence that businesses don't 'believe' government statistics.  Given that there are many shortcomings in government statistics, i.e the reports are often woefully lacking in detail, it wouldn't surprise me at all if many business organizations collected more detailed stats.  That doesn't mean they don't believe the official stats that are put out, however.

[pate]

one three... dude, bro... ignore MF that speak or write, man...  de Jorch's due and such....

[Mind Flayer Monk]

No, I just want some evidence that businesses don't 'believe' government statistics.  Given that there are many shortcomings in government statistics, i.e the reports are often woefully lacking in detail, it wouldn't surprise me at all if many business organizations collected more detailed stats.  That doesn't mean they don't believe the official stats that are put out, however.

I think pre-2000 that may have been true, but right now the credit reporting agencies are the most valuable source of data. The credit reporting agencies have huge amounts of data on customers and many companies aggregate this to create custom metrics.
It's sort of like baseball statistics: a team may be aware of batting average, but internally they don't care about batting average. They use some stat they have made themselves called "ARCA" (Adjusted Rogers Center Average) or something along those lines. Or they use avg+ or tavg.

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I think pre-2000 that may have been true, but right now the credit reporting agencies are the most valuable source of data.

No idea.  As I said, Gallup surveys pretty much back up the BOL stats on employment, and the billion price project backs up the government stats on inflation.  Bank economists back up government data on GDP growth, the stock market indirectly also backs up the data on GDP growth.

[136 or 142]

I think pre-2000 that may have been true, but right now the credit reporting agencies are the most valuable source of data. The credit reporting agencies have huge amounts of data on customers and many companies aggregate this to create custom metrics.
It's sort of like baseball statistics: a team may be aware of batting average, but internally they don't care about batting average. They use some stat they have made themselves called "ARCA" (Adjusted Rogers Center Average) or something along those lines. Or they use avg+ or tavg.

Well, that pretty much concurs with what I said.  The government data is woefully incomplete.  None of that means private sector actors dispute the data that is put out.

[PB the Deplorable]

Based on last years' predictions, a lot of those callers were obsessed with 'Obamacare'.


While I'll leave most of the politics out, with the exception of the horrible ACA website, according to most stories on political wire's Wonk Wire, 'Obamacare" has been pretty much a resounding success.

We were told 15% of the population (~45 million people) had no health insurance, the cost would go down an average of $2500 per family, along with several other promises.

A few million net signups, soaring costs for everyone, a pack of lies about 'keeping your doctor', 'keeping your plan' if you like them, and creating a national uproar, isn't exactly a 'resounding success'.

And yeah, please stick it in the Politics thread

[PB the Deplorable]

No, I just want some evidence that businesses don't 'believe' government statistics.  Given that there are many shortcomings in government statistics, i.e the reports are often woefully lacking in detail, it wouldn't surprise me at all if many business organizations collected more detailed stats.  That doesn't mean they don't believe the official stats that are put out, however.

I'll give you three:

The consumer Price Index, which measures inflation, does not include housing, food, or energy.  So as long as you don't need any of those items you can totally rely on the government reported rate of inflation.

The unemployment rate is based on the number of people receiving benefits.  Those who don't have a job but no longer receive benefits are not counted.  People living on government handouts aren't counted.  People whose small business failed aren't counted.  People fired for cause and not eligible for benefits aren't counted.  People who decide to retire or return to school because they can't find work aren't counted.  People who want a full time job but can only find part time or temporary work aren't counted.  People who are qualified for better job but work at a lower paying job because they can't find work in their field aren't counted.

None of that has changed under Obama.  Here's something that has:  those turned away at the border are now counted as 'deported'.  Which gooses the number of reported deportees under this Administration.  The reality is, almost no one is being deported currently.

[PB the Deplorable]

Well, dimwit, other than not releasing his education records (which I believe just came out this week) I'm not sure what information about his background hasn't come out.  We know where he's lived, we know his prior occupations, we know his health records... 

Well, let's see.  He's put out 2 different Birth Certificates, both done on MS Word.  Which makes them fakes.  (And has claimed to have been born in 2 different Honolulu hospitals).  He hasn't told us how it is he went to Pakistan at a time no US citizens were allowed to go there.  There are plenty of other personal documents he has not released, and has in fact spent well over $1 million (probably closer to $2M by now) to a law firm to have them suppressed. 

Doesn't it make you wonder just a little bit what he's so desperate to hide?

He won't even release information about his time as an Illinois State Senator.  Have you looked at his daily White House schedule?  It's mostly blank, so we don't know who he's meeting with or what he's doing most of the day

... Congressman Alan Grayson correctly said "the Republican solution to healthcare for the uninsured is 'die quickly'"...

Oh, well, why didn't you say so - if some virtually unknown Democrat issues a hit-and-run statement like this, it should certainly be taken as gospel

I'm a Canadian, and I can tell you that even many Conservative Party supporters here in Canada are appalled at what a freak show the Rethuglican Party has become.  (For instance about 60% of Conservative Party supporters would have voted for Obama in 2012)

So what?

I'm appalled at what this person has done to the country, and I live here

As a Canadian I'm not too familiar with the U.S Constitution...

No, clearly not

As a Canadian I'm not too familiar with the U.S Constitution but I've read from many legal scholars that it's so vague in so many parts that anybody can read into it pretty much anything they want to. So, while tea baggers believe the government has strayed, it's pretty much impossible to say that.

The body of the Constitution itself sets up the federal government - House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court.  Under separation of powers, it goes on to delineate which branch does what.  It's actually quite clear.

The Bill of Rights are the first 10 Amendments.  They list some of the most important rights we the people have.  Some are somewhat vague in order to be relevant to the times, others are specific and timeless.

The rest of the Amendments are changes or additions that were deemed necessary, and are also fairly straightforward

The Liberal judges - known as 'activist' judges - claim this is a 'living document' in order to replace Constitutional authority with their own political agenda.  Since they deal in sophistry and do not base their decisions on what is clearly written, they should be removed. 

... Regarding Thomas Jefferson, given that he wanted Americans to remain a nation of "citizen farmers",  I'm not sure how much he should be quoted.  To be fair, I have no idea if he believed that government should coerce the citizenry to remain this way or if he believed that government should enact policies to try to ensure this occured.

Thomas Jefferson and the rest of our founders and framers put together a remarkable document.  It was based on the writings and thought from the political philosophy branch of The Enlightenment.

There are no politicians anywhere in the US government today that could, pardon the expression, carry his jockstrap.

The founders and framers were selfless and carved out a small plucky representative republic in the New World, when they could have easily seized power for themselves like everywhere else in the world at the time.  People like Obama and the rest of them are hacks and nobodies in comparison.  Can you recall anything Obama has said that is worthy of quoting - now or in the future?

[PB the Deplorable]

You know what I also miss? Art would give each prediction some serious thought, even if it was a simple "Hmm..." then perhaps discuss and modify it a bit. He really tried to understand the caller's point of view and relate it to the world at large. This is a time of both reflection and hopeful optimism. All I hear from Jorch is indifference.

This is what was so good about the prediction shows and open lines in general.  For the most part it wasn't the callers themselves or really even what they had to say - it was Art teasing out as much as he could, then summarizing their topic and thoughts in his own words and making it interesting.

No one else can do this the way he did it.  They shouldn't even try.  For me callers with predictions, and most callers in general, are boring and a waste of time - unless Art Bell is the host

[Jorch Einstein]

Do we really need more idiotic callers bashing Obama?  I have mixed feelings about Obama, but the callers are moronic: "Obama is going to suspend the constitution" "Obama is going to start a race war" "Obama is going to start a religious war" "Obama is going to be discovered to be the antichrist" "Obama/Obamacare is going to destroy the economy"

You can't reason with people who ignore facts and live in their own little bubble of Rushbo/Fox "news". These are the type of people that think Michele Bachmann is a great thinker. You're dealing with extremely dim bulbs here. What exactly was the Republican health care plan? Oh yeah, nothing. Oh, sorry, it was a plan to let people buy healthcare across state lines. Yeah, that would have worked out great. Until Obamacare, every other big boy country in the world had some kind of plan for their citizens, except the U.S. The Republicans would rather have given more tax cuts to the rich instead of passing Obamacare. That trickle down you feel is actually someone pissing on you.
As for the other garbage, I actually know people in Texas who are dumber than dirt and say things like "Obama is the Anti-Christ." And they mean it. And when they go into a hair salon in Texas everyone in there states that Obama is really a Muslim. These are the kind of people that think Larry the Cable guy is too intellectual.
Much of the hatred from these types of people is based in racism too. The people in that Texas town are incredibly racist and when Obama won, one of them remarked "Your n*gger won."
Oh, but I'm sure if John McCain was president, the country would be in a much better place. Yeah, like we'd be in five different wars and Sarah Palin, the stupidest woman on the planet, would be eyeing the presidency. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[wr250]

You can't reason with people who ignore facts and live in their own little bubble of Rushbo/Fox "news". These are the type of people that think Michele Bachmann is a great thinker. You're dealing with extremely dim bulbs here. What exactly was the Republican health care plan? Oh yeah, nothing. Oh, sorry, it was a plan to let people buy healthcare across state lines. Yeah, that would have worked out great. Until Obamacare, every other big boy country in the world had some kind of plan for their citizens, except the U.S. The Republicans would rather have given more tax cuts to the rich instead of passing Obamacare. That trickle down you feel is actually someone pissing on you.
As for the other garbage, I actually know people in Texas who are dumber than dirt and say things like "Obama is the Anti-Christ." And they mean it. And when they go into a hair salon in Texas everyone in there states that Obama is really a Muslim. These are the kind of people that think Larry the Cable guy is too intellectual.
Much of the hatred from these types of people is based in racism too. The people in that Texas town are incredibly racist and when Obama won, one of them remarked "Your n*gger won."
Oh, but I'm sure if John McCain was president, the country would be in a much better place. Yeah, like we'd be in five different wars and Sarah Palin, the stupidest woman on the planet, would be eyeing the presidency. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

the current crop of morons calling think rush is a far left radical. the bible is literal, the earth is 6000 yrs old, blah blah blah. sarah palin has these people beat in the smarts dept by a long shot. not sure about noory though, he can say some pretty stupid things.
in addition that nicely written rant belongs in the politics thread. thanks, GNS.

[136 or 142]

We were told 15% of the population (~45 million people) had no health insurance, the cost would go down an average of $2500 per family, along with several other promises.

A few million net signups, soaring costs for everyone, a pack of lies about 'keeping your doctor', 'keeping your plan' if you like them, and creating a national uproar, isn't exactly a 'resounding success'.

And yeah, please stick it in the Politics thread

Man Boy, although you are by far the stupidest person on this board, I'll respond to your moronic comments.
1."soaring costs for everyone" 
A post on Wonk Wire that I didn't link to here shows clearly that health care costs have been held to the lowest increases in many years, if not decades and that Obamacare played a roll in that.  "Soaring costs for everyone" is just Faux News lies that you, being an idiot, have fallen for.


2."Creating a national uproar"
Anything a president does is going to get critics.  While the tea baggers  howl about the ACA, most people believe it should be kept and amended, hardly a 'national uproar'.  Polls also show that people by wide margins support about 90% of what's in the ACA.  Polls also show that when "Obamacare" is called something else, such as in Kentucky, that it has much more support.


3."Please stick it in the politics thread"
If dimwitted tea baggers (redundant I know) are going to call Coast to Coast and make absurd statements/predictions about Obama, I believe this is the proper thread to discuss it.

[136 or 142]

I'll give you three:

The consumer Price Index, which measures inflation, does not include housing, food, or energy.  So as long as you don't need any of those items you can totally rely on the government reported rate of inflation.

The unemployment rate is based on the number of people receiving benefits.  Those who don't have a job but no longer receive benefits are not counted.  People living on government handouts aren't counted.  People whose small business failed aren't counted.  People fired for cause and not eligible for benefits aren't counted.  People who decide to retire or return to school because they can't find work aren't counted.  People who want a full time job but can only find part time or temporary work aren't counted.  People who are qualified for better job but work at a lower paying job because they can't find work in their field aren't counted.

Everything you've said here is wrong. Given that you are a complete idiot, that isn't surprising.
1.The CPI measures all of the things you mention.  The economists who gather the data keep two sets of statistics, "inflation" which records those items, and what they call "core inflation" which doesn't.  I'm not 100% sure why economists prefer the 'core inflation' rate to the rate that includes housing, energy and food but both sets of statistics are, in fact, gathered and both are published and both are easily found.  It is just more Faux News lies to say that they aren't.  Also, as I mentioned above, the billion price index measures all of those items and its numbers concur with the official CPI stats.


2.The unemployment rate is based on a monthly survey of 60,000 households the Department of Labor compiles.  I have no idea where you got this belief that it's based on people receiving benefits.  I don't believe the Department of Labor is even allowed to see those statistics, as that would be part of the Department of HHS.  Anybody who self reports that they are unemployed but looking for work are counted as unemployed.  To be sure, it is estimated that there are a  fair number of people who call themselves 'self employed' who are either really unemployed or who work, at most, a few hours a week. Those who are unemployed but not actively looking for work, like the people going back to school you mentioned, are counted as part of the labor force participation rate.


http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

Read that and learn more about what the Department of Labor actually does. As Yoda would say "unlearn what you believe presently that is wrong."

I also have no where you got this belief that the Department of Labor doesn't count part time workers, the website for it is right here: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.htm


To be sure, I don't believe they ask how many part time workers are looking for full time work, but that is just another part of the incompleteness of the statistics the government compiles. I'm sure they do the best with the resources they have though.  The Gallup surveys do count the number of people with part time jobs looking for full time work.

[Morgus]

I believe this is the proper thread to discuss it.

not really, this isn't a general coast to coast thread, its about how Noory sucks.
please post here all about why you think Noory sucks - otherwise folks here may wonder if you may be another troll sent by Noory to disrupt this Noory sucks thread discussion?