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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Quote from: WOTR on November 27, 2016, 08:16:47 PM
Thank G-d I did not give money to BLM and become a criminal.  So far, I was unaware that it was illegal to give cash to charities that are not on the "terror list", but to all charities that are not popular with the ruling party.

Damn the constitution and protections of freedom! We are at war with a man who gives money away to causes that we do not approve of!


***I should be clear that I believe you should be free to give your money to Republicans, Democrats, the KKK or BLM.  Unless it is spelled out as an illegal group (ISIS and the likes) then go to it.

It's a bit more than that.  The violence is preplanned.  It's central to the entire endeavor.  That's why it's the same thing across the country, in riot after riot, year after year.  It's one thing to be a dupe and give these people $100, it's something else to be at the center of it - organizing, planning, coordinating, funding. 

Flyers, tents, food, cash, bail, sophisticated social networking, knowing just how to manipulate the media - whether before the event, during, or in interviews after being released from jail.  All just spontaneous and organic to the local area? 

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or did you truly believe Occupy when they said they didn't have leaders and were 'non-violent, and thought it was just a coincidence their riots had the same pattern as all the other ''peaceful demonstrations'' of the past 30 years?

Quote from: Meatie Pie on November 27, 2016, 07:34:58 PM
If Jeff Sessions isn't part of the establishment then I am not sure what is...

Then it's clear you don't know what is.

WOTR

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on November 27, 2016, 09:07:17 PM
It's a bit more than that.  The violence is preplanned.  It's central to the entire endeavor.  That's why it's the same thing across the country, in riot after riot, year after year.  It's one thing to be a dupe and give these people $100, it's something else to be at the center of it - organizing, planning, coordinating, funding. 

Actual proof that will stand up in court (aside from your gut feelings?)  He can give money to whatever cause he wishes- but you may need proof that he is actually the puppet master giving the marching orders...  "I know he is behind all the evil in America" really is not reason to actually arrest him...

Value Of Pi

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on November 27, 2016, 09:07:17 PM
It's a bit more than that.  The violence is preplanned.  It's central to the entire endeavor.  That's why it's the same thing across the country, in riot after riot, year after year.  It's one thing to be a dupe and give these people $100, it's something else to be at the center of it - organizing, planning, coordinating, funding. 

Flyers, tents, food, cash, bail, sophisticated social networking, knowing just how to manipulate the media - whether before the event, during, or in interviews after being released from jail.  All just spontaneous and organic to the local area? 

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or did you truly believe Occupy when they said they didn't have leaders and were 'non-violent, and thought it was just a coincidence their riots had the same pattern as all the other ''peaceful demonstrations'' of the past 30 years?

Look at the bright side. You're living in one of the few places in the world where it's even possible to join a street demonstration without being in some way attacked by the government. I wouldn't try to justify any protester getting violent but watching people peacefully protest while police just stand and watch is very impressive. Not every protest is a riot.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 27, 2016, 10:59:17 PM
... Not every protest is a riot.

True, the Tea Party even filed for permits.  Yet who does Big Media save their venom and outrage for.

Quote from: WOTR on November 27, 2016, 09:34:10 PM
Actual proof that will stand up in court (aside from your gut feelings?)  He can give money to whatever cause he wishes- but you may need proof that he is actually the puppet master giving the marching orders...  "I know he is behind all the evil in America" really is not reason to actually arrest him...

We're just supposed to sit by while this filth goes on, because it's a ''demonstration''?  Because we've traditionally allowed it, and because it's been confused with ''peaceful assembly''?

I suggest they chose one, call in all the law enforcement in the area, and arrest the leaders, every looter, every arsonist, everyone attacking the police, and just absolutely throw the book at them.  It shouldn't take long to unravel the whole thing and find out who organizes, plans, and finances them are. 

If it's not Soros (which of course it is), that's fine, go after those responsible.  We don't have to take this, it's not protected activity.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on November 27, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
We're just supposed to sit by while this filth goes on, because it's a ''demonstration''?  Because we've traditionally allowed it, and because it's been confused with ''peaceful assembly''?

I suggest they chose one, call in all the law enforcement in the area, and arrest the leaders, every looter, every arsonist, everyone attacking the police, and just absolutely throw the book at them.  It shouldn't take long to unravel the whole thing and find out who organizes, plans, and finances them are. 

If it's not Soros (which of course it is), that's fine, go after those responsible.  We don't have to take this, it's not protected activity.

I should remind you both that the president can murder anyone he considers an enemy of the state, including citizens like Soros. A drone might be coming his way once Trump's in office.  ;)


WOTR

Quote from: VoteQuimby on November 28, 2016, 12:17:41 AM
...And then things took a strange turn.

You are a few years late.  And you appear to have the wrong conspiracy theory.

He was killed because he was going to unleash video of Obama... "Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., last month, Breitbart claimed he had damning videos of Barack Obama, and planned to release them before the general election."

Even Infowars knew the real reason.  ""In a stunning coincidence," Paul Joseph Watson wrote on InfoWars.com, "it appears Andrew Breitbart suffered his untimely death just hours before he was set to release damning video footage that could have sunk Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign."

No sir.  This had nothing to do with a lowly pizza peddler.  This was a direct order of the most powerful man in Washington to save his presidency.

***Now to decide if I am joking or not.  :)

***To be fair, if we want to follow Jackstar down this path, there is one more really interesting "coincidence" that could be tied to any conspiracy theory that you want... "Just two months after conservative firebrand Andrew Breitbart died of a sudden heart attack, a Los Angeles coroner has died of suspicious circumstances.

Sources told the Los Angeles Times that Michael Cormier, 61, appears to have died of arsenic poisoning on April 20, the day the Los Angeles coroner's office released their preliminary autopsy report on Mr Breitbart"  ???

Quote from: ItsOver on November 27, 2016, 02:42:59 PM
I wonder how many snowflakes would be crying in their Play-doh if they saw this on a  TV screen.



i dunno


Jackstar

Quote from: WOTR on November 28, 2016, 12:58:22 AM
***To be fair, if we want to follow Jackstar down this path.








Like, half of you just figured out what I'm all about. I can feel it.


No, wait--that's my penis. But really, yeah, I can feel something else.

Jackstar


Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 27, 2016, 11:42:06 PM
the president can murder anyone

Sure. But after some murders, (s)he's not the President any longer.



This is why we might really get to see, Obama, swinging from a tree. ODE TO JOY

Jackstar

Quote from: WOTR on November 28, 2016, 12:58:22 AM
***Now to decide if I am joking or not.  :)

Who killed Kennedy? Asking for a friend.

Jackstar

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 27, 2016, 10:59:17 PM
one of the few places in the world where it's even possible to join a street demonstration without being in some way attacked by the government

It is long past time to attack government.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-election-points-us-growth-boost-oecd-105313461.html
QuoteThe US economy will grow by 2.3 percent in 2017 and 3.0 percent in 2018, said the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, revising its earlier forecast.

Yorkshire pud

Trump claims millions voted illegally in presidential poll -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38126438


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Donald Trump offered no evidence himself. (Facts? Schmacks, who needs pesky evidence?) ;D

Claim was started by self-styled conservative voter fraud specialist Greg Phillips who tweeted "Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million"

Mr Phillips declined to release any evidence (Really? Quelles surprise!)

His tweets were picked up by right-wing websites like Infowars.com, which has made false claims in the past

Fact-checking website Snopes.com says there is "zero evidence" that "illegal aliens" voted in election

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 28, 2016, 08:06:41 AM
Trump claims millions voted illegally in presidential poll -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38126438

You don't think that occurs?

European field officers who monitor our voting process are continually aghast that we aren't required to have a valid ID to vote.

We have been trying to get our voting system less open to fraud and abuse and require a valid ID, but the liberal Democrats keep  pushing against that citing it would disenfranchise black voters who may not have a valid ID.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on November 28, 2016, 08:14:08 AM
You don't think that occurs?

European field officers who monitor our voting process are continually aghast that we aren't required to have a valid ID to vote.

We have been trying to get our voting system less open to fraud and abuse and require a valid ID, but the liberal Democrats keep  pushing against that citing it would disenfranchise black voters who may not have a valid ID.

If what you say is true, why hasn't Trump presented any evidence? Or do you just accept any bollox he twatters to his disciples?

Okay, I'll be reasonable. Point to any independent study that shows significant voter fraud. Not just what a whiney Trump has put on twatter.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 28, 2016, 08:21:23 AM
If what you say is true, why hasn't Trump presented any evidence? Or do you just accept any bollox he twatters to his disciples?

Okay, I'll be reasonable. Point to any independent study that shows significant voter fraud. Not just what a whiney Trump has put on twatter.


No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

Harvard Study: Illegal Alien Voter Fraud Decides Elections, 6.4% Of Illegals Voted In 2008
http://aun-tv.com/2014/11/harvard-study-illegal-alien-voter-fraud-decides-many-elections-6-4-of-illegals-voted-in-2008/


Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/


Just a sampling.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on November 28, 2016, 08:35:36 AM

No, voter fraud isn’t a myth: 10 cases where it’s all too real
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

Harvard Study: Illegal Alien Voter Fraud Decides Elections, 6.4% Of Illegals Voted In 2008
http://aun-tv.com/2014/11/harvard-study-illegal-alien-voter-fraud-decides-many-elections-6-4-of-illegals-voted-in-2008/


Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/


Just a sampling.

Which part of 'significant' are you struggling with? Trump said millions, so where are those figures? Oh, in 2016, not 2008.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 28, 2016, 08:37:13 AM
Which part of 'significant' are you struggling with? Trump said millions, so where are those figures? Oh, in 2016, not 2008.

Uh, two different studies and articles cite that illegal aliens vote in tremendous numbers.

13% of illegal aliens is over a million votes, that is pretty significant.

I am sure though that in 2016 with a Presidential candidate who wants to remove illegal aliens, they suddenly became honest people and decided not to vote!

You are really out of your league here Yorkshit Cuck.  I would suggest a My Little Pony forum or Crayola Crayons forum.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: pyewacket on November 27, 2016, 12:10:08 PM
I thought the leftie talking point was to call us "deplorables"?   I can see why you don't because it didn't work out all that well now - did it? Classic leftist mindset- 'I don't mind what you do as long as you do what I tell you to do.'  ::)

I don't think you have a clue what 'the left' is, you just hear a dog whistle and start barking. If Trump gets in and starts putting up tariffs then that's anti-competitive and about as 'leftist' as it gets. Everyone who saw the election as leftists v conservatives got so lost in the media haze that they didn't know what they were voting for, as long as it wasn't 'leftist', whatever the hell that even means. Hillary was actually the conservative choice. Trump is a leap in the dark, whatever else you might say; particularly given that nobody knows what he stands for, including him.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on November 28, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
Uh, two different studies and articles cite that illegal aliens vote in tremendous numbers.

13% of illegal aliens is over a million votes, that is pretty significant.

No it isn't. Its possibly 13% of whatever number of illegal adults might vote. Maybe. What facts have you? I'm trying to help you here with statistical analysis.
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I am sure though that in 2016 with a Presidential candidate who wants to remove illegal aliens, they suddenly became honest people and decided not to vote!

You're sure? Is that along the lines of a Trump fact?

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You are really out of your league here Yorkshit Cuck.  I would suggest a My Little Pony forum or Crayola Crayons forum.

Out of my league? You're not even playing the same fucking game, kock sucking spunk bubble.

Jesus... No wonder we threw the teabags out of our country.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: VoteQuimby on November 28, 2016, 09:32:25 AM
Jesus... No wonder we threw the teabags out of our country.

I love it when you all default to the UK v US mantra, when you can't answer a question.  ;D

What's the question? You've just turned into negative cuck white noise to me.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 28, 2016, 08:55:23 AM
No it isn't. Its possibly 13% of whatever number of illegal adults might vote. Maybe.
There is a deeper game that Obama and others of his ilk are doing with the open-border and "refugee" importation strategy. The makeup of the House of Representatives and the Electoral College is based on the US Census which is taken every 10 years. The Census has always been controversial (in the old days the issue of slavery and if/how they should be counted) for this reason. The Census now counts, or attempts to do so, counts everybody in each State, including illegals, minors, the incarcerated, the deemed mentally incompetent etc. In other words, it also counts people who cannot legally vote. Those numbers are used to apportion Representatives in the House and in the Electoral College. The idea is if some area can be flooded with illegals, say in "sanctuary cities," those regions will have more votes in Congress and in the Electoral College. Even when the illegal doesn't illegally vote they influence the elections by being counted by the census and those Reps still vote for the interests of their constituents (including illegals or families of illegals) and encourage more open-border and "refugee" policies or social programs to attract them. So that over time the country will be "fundamentally changed" especially as the anchor babies and children of illegals automatically become citizens and when adult can vote legally.

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