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President Donald J. Trump

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Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 04:03:09 AM
Now it's getting real.

What, that in Hollywood you'd better virtue signal your hatred of Trump if you're going to avoid being shunned?  And the more obnoxious one is are about it, the higher standing one will achieve? 

Aren't these the people who last heard from were all either harassing women, knew all about it, and kept quiet and went along with it - for decades - only to then turn and start lecturing the rest of us about it? 

Hollywood isn't real, it's fake.  More so by the day

PaulAtreides

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 11, 2018, 05:17:49 AM
What, that in Hollywood you'd better virtue signal your hatred of Trump if you're going to avoid being shunned?  And the more obnoxious one is are about it, the higher standing one will achieve? 

Aren't these the people who last heard from were all either harassing women, knew all about it, and kept quiet and went along with it - for decades - only to then turn and start lecturing the rest of us about it? 

Hollywood isn't real, it's fake.  More so by the day

These were the Tony's - not a Hollywood thing. Also, you generalize regarding Hollywood denizens, attributing to all of them the acts of a few.  OTOH, Trumps bad actions are a known quantity.  The latest, of course, being pimping for Russia again suggesting it should be back in the G-7 after being kicked out by the world community for Putins actions in Crimea and the Ukraine. 

Gd5150

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 06:14:37 AM
These were the Tony's - not a Hollywood thing

Congrats to dune boy for winning the “stupidest thing you’ll read all day” award.

The Tony Awards®️, even those attending tuned in to something else.

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 10, 2018, 04:45:55 PM
I know that most Americans don't support Trump.

Again the appeal to consensus, as all libs must have, binary thinkers that they are.


QuoteOf the Americans I know well, 99% don't.

And the predictable anecdote!

QuoteAnd those who don't have almost all seen military service at one time or another, one is a retired police chief in Stockton.

Anecdote deux!

QuoteI think I'm on pretty safe ground as far as your idle and idiotic threats are concerned..

My "threats" to what?

Your rhetoric?

Lol.

;D


Metron2267

Quote from: monica on June 10, 2018, 11:57:14 PM
Some people say Russia hacked the votes.  I haven't met one supporter. But, I'm not in a wealthy area.

So this is a basic nothing burger post... ???


Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 06:14:37 AM
These were the Tony's - not a Hollywood thing.

Hair splitting....same industry, different venue.

QuoteAlso, you generalize regarding Hollywood denizens, attributing to all of them the acts of a few.

Nope.

QuoteOTOH, Trumps bad actions are a known quantity.  The latest, of course, being pimping for Russia again suggesting it should be back in the G-7 after being kicked out by the world community for Putins actions in Crimea and the Ukraine.

So it's better to isolate them economically so they become more desirous of rebuilding the old USSR?

Smooth decision moron, real smooth.
>:(


PaulAtreides

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 11, 2018, 07:06:12 AM
Hair splitting....same industry, different venue.
 

Nope.

So it's better to isolate them economically so they become more desirous of rebuilding the old USSR?

Smooth decision moron, real smooth.
>:(

Isolated?  Really?  Putin just has Trump by the short hairs and he is trying to rebuild the old USSR by the aggression against such as Crimea and Ukrain.  Trump aids and abets it. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on June 10, 2018, 07:04:16 PM
So you know 100 Americans, and 1 of them supports Trump?  Or you know 200, and 2 support him?  300 and 3?  And just who is this (these?) rat fucker(s), daring to go against the grain?

Of those 100, 200, 300 or whatever the number is, almost all were in the military service?  Would that be 85 out of the 100, 90 out of the 100?  95?

Whatever the answers are, you have to admit these are very unusual statistics for the mid-size average American town you claim Sacto to be.  Makes me wonder how on earth Trump managed to get elected with half the vote of these same average Americans.


You don't know? The electoral college system.  I guess my circle of friends and acquaintances see Trump for what he is. In fairness one or two supported him when he ran for the candidacy but the closer it got to the election they changed their mind.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 11, 2018, 07:00:53 AM
Again the appeal to consensus, as all libs must have, binary thinkers that they are.

He has somewhere hovering around 40% support (Essentially he hasn't increased his support since taking office)...Obama had more than 60% AFTER he left office.

Quote
And the predictable anecdote!

Anecdote deux!

My "threats" to what?

Your rhetoric?

Lol.

;D


Latin is not your forte. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 11, 2018, 07:06:12 AM


So it's better to isolate them economically so they become more desirous of rebuilding the old USSR?

Smooth decision moron, real smooth.
>:(


Do you know why Russia was thrown out of the then G8? You think that should be rewarded with their continued participation? Maybe back in 90, Saddam should have been given a pass invading Kuwait, or back in 39 Hitler shouldn't have had war declared on him after invading Poland?

It's funny how all the rest of NATO and none NATO countries see Russia (Mainly Putin) as an adversary, and not having the best interests of Ukraine or its people at heart, yet because Trump is Putin's bitch, all of a sudden Putin is a new best friend, and the rest of the allies are adversaries.. If this plays out as it could, Trump is going to find himself in a very isolated position. A bit like the school bully who finds he's been busted, and everyone sees he's not that strong after all. I hope though that the grown ups in the various alphabet agencies realise the other governments and their respective agencies don't think all Americans are as dumbfucked as Trump and his cult.


Incidentally: You know don't you that Russian mercenaries have killed allied troops (including quite a lot of US marines) in Syria and Iraq? The Russians also supplied and supported whoever shot down the Malaysian 777 over Ukraine, and then refused to allow air crash investigators near the aircraft or the bodies that were basically left to decompose in the sun.

And you think Putin is a good guy who needs to be brought into the fold?

Fuck you and your ass licking.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 11, 2018, 07:06:12 AM

So it's better to isolate them economically so they become more desirous of rebuilding the old USSR?

Smooth decision moron, real smooth.
>:(

Back in the somewhat good old days, the right had a few principles. It didn't mean you had to like them but at least you know where they stood. Craven Trumpholes like you are such abject bitches that you can't help presenting your rear to anyone who comes along riding a bear with no shirt on. Yeah, let's give Volodya all he wants so he'll be nice to us. It's not likely he's going to take all we give him and then give us the finger, oh no! For fucks sake!!!

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM

Do you know why Russia was thrown out of the then G8? You think that should be rewarded with their continued participation? Maybe back in 90, Saddam should have been given a pass invading Kuwait, or back in 39 Hitler shouldn't have had war declared on him after invading Poland?

It's funny how all the rest of NATO and none NATO countries see Russia (Mainly Putin) as an adversary, and not having the best interests of Ukraine or its people at heart, yet because Trump is Putin's bitch, all of a sudden Putin is a new best friend, and the rest of the allies are adversaries.. If this plays out as it could, Trump is going to find himself in a very isolated position. A bit like the school bully who finds he's been busted, and everyone sees he's not that strong after all. I hope though that the grown ups in the various alphabet agencies realise the other governments and their respective agencies don't think all Americans are as dumbfucked as Trump and his cult.

When they were thrown out of the G8 did the EU stop buying oil and natural gas from them? 

Asking for some friends that can export now.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 11, 2018, 07:43:47 AM
When they were thrown out of the G8 did the EU stop buying oil and natural gas from them? 

Asking for some friends that can export now.

I don't think they should either. I think Putin should be isolated, but seeing as he is the top mafia don in a country run by mafia dons who have raped the country, aided by corrupt western interests, I can't see that happening soon.

However, as none oil based products come online (If Pruitt doesn't make them illegal as he supports his swamp friends) the Arabs and the Russian mafia will have their teeth taken out.. It can't happen soon enough.

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 06:14:37 AM
These were the Tony's - not a Hollywood thing. Also, you generalize regarding Hollywood denizens, attributing to all of them the acts of a few.  OTOH, Trumps bad actions are a known quantity....

De Niro's not Hollywood?

The actions of a few?  Perhaps.  But in that post I also included those who ''knew'' and said and did nothing.  If you recall, it turned out quite a few of them said they ''knew'', and wished they'd been more ''vocal''.  That didn't last long of course, they then turned their sleaze onto the rest of us, with them as the virtuous.  Are you really going to claim someone at the core of the Hollywood elite, as connected as De Niro is, ''didn't know''?

Face it, the scummy people of our country are almost all Democrats.  Criminals.  Welfare cheats.  Hollywood scumbags.  Occupy Wall St / BLM rioters and looters.  Lazy useless bureaucrats.  Teachers unions, educrats, and left wing professors intentionally mis-educating our kids.  ''Progressives'' out trying to destroy as much of the country as they can, as fast as they can.  People like Obama and his supporters poisoning our body politic and dividing us by turning every issue into a racial issue. 

Let's just say it's no surprise Hollywood institutionalized the objectification and harassment of women, and that Robert De Niro has no problem cursing a president on national TV.


Oh wait, this is about smearing Trump isn't it.

Juan

I didn’t know Pauline Kael had transitioned and moved to Sacramento.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Metron2267 on June 11, 2018, 07:00:53 AM
Again the appeal to consensus, as all libs must have, binary thinkers that they are.


And the predictable anecdote!

Anecdote deux!

My "threats" to what?

Your rhetoric?

Lol.

;D

Wait! You're saying he didn't once again remind us that Mueller is actually a "Republican?!" ;D

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 06:14:37 AM
...  The latest, of course, being pimping for Russia again suggesting it should be back in the G-7 after being kicked out by the world community for Putins actions in Crimea and the Ukraine.

First off, if the Russians had a favorite in the race it was Hilary Clinton.  Weak.  Incompetent.  Corrupt.  Someone they could easily pay off.  She's the one with the fake ''dossier'', courtesy of the Russians.  She's the one with the fake information about Trump and Russian prostitutes peeing on him.  She's the sleaze in this little morality play.

To address your post:  Russia attacked Crimea and Ukraine.  The US and Britain had a treaty with Russian and Ukraine - igned by Bill Clinton - that we would defend Ukraine's borders, in exchange for them giving up the nuclear weapons remaining in their country after the breakup of the Soviet Union. 

Berock Obama and his Secretary of State Hilary Clinton chose to do nothing when Russia took the Crimea, and chose to do nothing when they supported ethnic Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine.  Obama and Hilary Clinton even refused to send defensive weapons to our allies in Ukraine.  It's standard for a country doing nothing to talk big, make threats, cut various ties, etc for a period of time, then at some point decide the point has been made and thaw the relationship.

As far as that treaty, Bill Clinton signed it for expediency.  I don't think anyone expected us to ever intervene between Russia and Ukraine, it was more of an agreement that Russia ''should'' respect the new borders.  The areas from the Ukraine to the Caucasus to Central Asia have been fought over for centuries.  We don't have an interest in where the borders should be or who is governing them.  We ought to stay out of it.

Beyond that, are you suggesting we should never have anything to do with Russia?  A major nation we are not at war with, but have quite a few mutual interests and a few possible flash points.  That makes sense to you?  But that Iran deal was great, wasn't it.

After the Iran deal, it's difficult to take people like you who supported it seriously.  Well, it was difficult before, let's say it's more difficult now.


Oh wait, this is all about smearing Trump.  Never mind

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
Isolated?  Really?  Putin just has Trump by the short hairs and he is trying to rebuild the old USSR by the aggression against such as Crimea and Ukrain.  Trump aids and abets it.

Massive ::)

PaulAtreides

So Trump leaves G-7 early and will now depart Singapore early.  Seems he's incapable of working a full day.  Plus Kim has played him and Donald is all butt hurt.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:22:25 AM

You don't know? The electoral college system.  I guess my circle of friends and acquaintances see Trump for what he is. In fairness one or two supported him when he ran for the candidacy but the closer it got to the election they changed their mind.

Just be honest. You're the kind of twat that wouldn't be friends with someone who supported him anyway. And if one of your "friends" did remain committed to voting for Trump you'd jettison them from your life like a piece of trash. ::)

It speaks volumes about your character, it really does. :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 10:01:02 AM
So Trump leaves G-7 early and will now depart Singapore early.  Seems he's incapable of working a full day.  Plus Kim has played him and Donald is all butt hurt.

Siding with a brutal communist dictator, yet again! :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM

Do you know why Russia was thrown out of the then G8? You think that should be rewarded with their continued participation? Maybe back in 90, Saddam should have been given a pass invading Kuwait, or back in 39 Hitler shouldn't have had war declared on him after invading Poland?

It's funny how all the rest of NATO and none NATO countries see Russia (Mainly Putin) as an adversary, and not having the best interests of Ukraine or its people at heart, yet because Trump is Putin's bitch, all of a sudden Putin is a new best friend, and the rest of the allies are adversaries.. If this plays out as it could, Trump is going to find himself in a very isolated position. A bit like the school bully who finds he's been busted, and everyone sees he's not that strong after all. I hope though that the grown ups in the various alphabet agencies realise the other governments and their respective agencies don't think all Americans are as dumbfucked as Trump and his cult.


Incidentally: You know don't you that Russian mercenaries have killed allied troops (including quite a lot of US marines) in Syria and Iraq? The Russians also supplied and supported whoever shot down the Malaysian 777 over Ukraine, and then refused to allow air crash investigators near the aircraft or the bodies that were basically left to decompose in the sun.

And you think Putin is a good guy who needs to be brought into the fold?

Fuck you and your ass licking.

Demonize! Demonize!! Warboy wants his war and Goldstein must die! >:(

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
Isolated?  Really?  Putin just has Trump by the short hairs and he is trying to rebuild the old USSR by the aggression against such as Crimea and Ukrain.  Trump aids and abets it.

Oh right.  Trump should send the military in now.  That would get all the dumb Ds on his side, right? 

Your post would have been a lot more accurate if you substituted ''Obama and Clinton'' for ''Trump'', and posted if several years ago.

starrmtn001

"If you like your dispensary, you can keep your dispensary."
;D ;D ;D

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Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:22:25 AM

You don't know? The electoral college system.  I guess my circle of friends and acquaintances see Trump for what he is. In fairness one or two supported him when he ran for the candidacy but the closer it got to the election they changed their mind.

Well yeah, he did win the Electoral College - going away.  He also won half of the actual votes cast (illegal aliens and all), and a solid majority of the votes cast by American citizens.  So if your premise is 99% of Americans voted against him, but somehow the Electoral College negated the vote, you're wrong.

As far as your circle of friends seeing Trump for what he is, all well and good.  Do they not see the other choice - Hilary Clinton - for what she is?  Frankly, Trump has done quite a bit of good for this country since taking office, despite all the obstacles the shit-heels and sore losers have thrown in his way. 

Hilary Clinton has zero lifetime accomplishments, and her instincts are much the same as Obama's.  Had Mrs Clinton won, there would be millions fewer jobs, more illegal immigrants, and far less respect from our allies and trading partners.  Have your circle of friends spent any time contemplating that?

Metron2267

Quote from: PaulAtreides on June 11, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
Isolated?  Really? 

Really, truly.

QuotePutin just has Trump by the short hairs

Which ones, specifically?

Quoteand he is trying to rebuild the old USSR by the aggression against such as Crimea and Ukrain.  Trump aids and abets it.

How does Trump do this?

Cite specifics.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM

Do you know why Russia was thrown out of the then G8? You think that should be rewarded with their continued participation? Maybe back in 90, Saddam should have been given a pass invading Kuwait, or back in 39 Hitler shouldn't have had war declared on him after invading Poland?...

It's absurd to think we need to treat every country the same.  That's another example of the foolishness of Liberalism.

Russia isn't the pissant country Saddam's Iraq was.  It's not exactly Hitler's Germany ultimately threatening us either.  We ignore Russia at our peril.  And that's the point, isn't it - to do what's in OUR best interests.  And our best interests is to have ties with Russia. 


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
It's funny how all the rest of NATO and none NATO countries see Russia (Mainly Putin) as an adversary, and not having the best interests of Ukraine or its people at heart...

No one is saying Putin is a good guy.  That's just yet another smear of Trump, when what he's trying to put us in a better position to deal with Putin and the Russians.  Who cares what the EU thinks about it, I'm not hearing any brilliant plans regarding Russia from them.

We don't need lessons in morality from a bunch of countries who've handed their sovereignty to the EU, who in turn is in the process of handing their countries over to a bunch of illiterate violent Moslems.

These are the same countries who did nothing when Russia invaded Ukraine (so much for the interests of Ukraine or it's people).  The EU as a whole is much more powerful than Russia, so what was the problem there?

These are also the same cowardly countries who applauded Obama's cowardly treaty with Iran, a far worse government.  And who are even now trying to find a cowardly way of undermining and going around Trump's ending of that treaty.  I guess the cowardly EU doesn't give a hoot about the best interests of the people of Iran, preferring to prop up that horrible dictatorship



Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
... because Trump is Putin's bitch...

Tiresome.  Still waiting for evidence. 

This is quite the smear job.  Accuse Trump of colluding with a major power.  Tie up his presidency by distracting him with this.  Use any normal interaction he has with said country to repeat the smear.  Good god man, go back to your little island, we have enough home grown pukes to deal with


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 11, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
... because Trump is Putin's bitch, all of a sudden Putin is a new best friend, and the rest of the allies are adversaries.. If this plays out as it could, Trump is going to find himself in a very isolated position...

Incidentally: You know don't you that Russian mercenaries have killed allied troops (including quite a lot of US marines) in Syria and Iraq?...

We've killed some of theirs as well.  If I recall, it was Obama welcoming the Russians into Syria, when in the past it was a red line the US did not allow any Russian troops into the Middle East, period.  Looking at the facts from 2009 to present, the only conclusion one could draw is Obama was Putin's bitch, not Trump.  Trump is the grownup, trying to fix BO's various messes.

As far as our allies isolating the US, so what really.  Europe is gone, and the sooner people understand that and act accordingly the better we'll all be for it.  Let's just hope we don't allow the dumb Ds here to take us down the path Western Europe is on.

Imagine Europe left to keep the peace among themselves.  Left to sustain themselves economically.  Go ahead, isolate yourselves from us

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