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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

albrecht

I think we should let the individual States implement whatever healthcare system they wish. A 'single payer" socialist, no healthcare and private market only, to mixed systems. Many of our States are larger in size and population than many European countries and we have a wide diversity of people and ideas. Why must there always be "one answer?" Let the States handle it as they wish and let us see the effectiveness and cost/benefits of the ideas. They could decide what to cover, who it covers (for example California could say that child sex change operations and illegals would be covered but Iowa might not.) Veterans and Medicare can remain but see what happens. No Federal funding and the States need to figure out funding (by taxes, fees, incentives, or whatever.) And what about a monetary benefit for healthy people without a preexisting condition? And screening immigrants for diseases and healthy lifestyle and only take those people in.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 12:31:36 PM
Kidnostad3,
BRAVO Kidnostad3 -you just posted most lame most unimaginative attempt at a jab.
It's so freaking bad that I can not even shake my head at it in disbelieve.
Please Kidnostad3 leave the funny stuff to wizards like SV or myself, you just concentrate at posting the mundane, ...please
don't lower IQ level of this forum,...please man resist the temptation to be funny next time, -it's not your forte man, no-no-no ;) ::)

Of course you're right.  How can my clumsy attempts at humor compete with your urbane and witty remarks about Yak shit and your experiences as a gay man which are made even more hilarious by your trademark barely-comprehensible pigeon English delivery. (That's some funny shit right there.)  Also, the way you revise other people's posts to make them sound like they were written by a wet-brained pervert is a fucking hoot.  Oh, wait a minute--as changed they actually were written by a wet brained pervert weren't they?  Nevertheless, don't be discouraged by the fact that everyone who responds to your posts includes some wording that amounts to "fuck off" or "eat shit and die."  That's just their way of saying they like your stuff and keep posting. 

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on July 18, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
Hmm... While Jared is side-tracked mounting a defense for improprieties and possible criminal charges, it looks like Bannon has maneuvered his way back to the inner circle.

http://twitter.com/roguepotusstaff/status/887384981978439681

http://www.thedailybeast.com/david-bossie-the-man-the-trump-train-left-behind

The tenuous hold on the WH by the GOP might slip even further if Bannon's back in charge. Maybe they'll reconsider efforts to get their man Pence into place.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-reportedly-called-paul-ryan-a-limp-d-k-motherf-r-2017-7

Pence is your worst nightmare.  Such is the state of the Democrat party that if he were to take over for Trump he would probably be reelected in a landslide in 2020 and go on to win a second term in his own right in 2024.  Just keep focusing on personalities and spreading propaganda.  It's good for the Country. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on July 18, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
Hmm... While Jared is side-tracked mounting a defense for improprieties and possible criminal charges, it looks like Bannon has maneuvered his way back to the inner circle.

http://twitter.com/roguepotusstaff/status/887384981978439681

http://www.thedailybeast.com/david-bossie-the-man-the-trump-train-left-behind

The tenuous hold on the WH by the GOP might slip even further if Bannon's back in charge. Maybe they'll reconsider efforts to get their man Pence into place.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-reportedly-called-paul-ryan-a-limp-d-k-motherf-r-2017-7

Rogue POTUS Staff  ::) ;D

So, in other words, complete propaganda bullshit.  :D

Lt.Uhura

Eighth man in Trump Tower conspiracy reinforces purpose: money laundering through real estate
...
The Trump team was given both the immediate payoff ...
“… to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and could be very useful to your father.”
… and the long-term benefitâ€"destruction of the Magnitsky Act, assuring that the money from Russian oligarchs could continue to flow into New York real estate, just as it had been doing all along for Donald Trump.
In other words, after his business crashed, Trump was floated and made to appear to operate a successful business enterprise through the infusion of hundreds in millions of cash from dark Russian sources.
He was their man.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/1681726

Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2017, 01:43:28 PM
I think we should let the individual States implement whatever healthcare system they wish. A 'single payer" socialist, no healthcare and private market only, to mixed systems. Many of our States are larger in size and population than many European countries and we have a wide diversity of people and ideas. Why must there always be "one answer?" Let the States handle it as they wish and let us see the effectiveness and cost/benefits of the ideas. They could decide what to cover, who it covers (for example California could say that child sex change operations and illegals would be covered but Iowa might not.) Veterans and Medicare can remain but see what happens. No Federal funding and the States need to figure out funding (by taxes, fees, incentives, or whatever.) And what about a monetary benefit for healthy people without a preexisting condition? And screening immigrants for diseases and healthy lifestyle and only take those people in.

All good ideas.  What about a provision in California that provides for the change of a transexual back to his orinal sex if he/she decides he doesn't like his/her new gear?  Maybe they could limit it to 3 gender reassignments and reversals to a customer unless they can demonstrate extreme circumstances.  Sounds like something Jerry Brown would go for.

Up All Night

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on July 18, 2017, 10:02:24 AM
I just got off the phone with my insurance company, BCBS, pretty sure it was Lucifer himself I spoke to.

Or Himmler...

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on July 18, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
I love my career. It didn't used to be so rough, but corporations these days use employees up and spit them out. They'd rather pay us double-time for missed breaks than see us sit down for a bite to eat and a toilet break. You better stay healthy and out of the hospital, Mr. P. The nursing shortage will get worse when us old workhorse boomer nurses retire. BTW, the numbers of RNs alone belie reality, as not all will work (or last long) at the bedside as staff nurses, moving on to other positions in nursing. I've seen so many come and go, creating a less safe work environment for staff and patients.

As an old workhorse boomer who grew up with a strong work ethic I can strongly recommend retirement.  Never been idle, never been bored.  Should have done it when I was in my twenties. 

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on July 18, 2017, 02:25:52 PM
What about a provision in California that provides for the change of a transexual back to his orinal sex if he/she decides he doesn't like his/her new gear?

You seem unusually interested in this topic. Anything you'd care to share with the class?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
You seem unusually interested in this topic. Anything you'd care to share with the class?

Yes.  My real name is Chastitie Bono and I want my vajayjay back. 

CozyRozie

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
You seem unusually interested in this topic. Anything you'd care to share with the class?

what SredniVashtar boy-girl are you having the same dilemma ..lol
just flip the coin, or better yet ask your muslim lovers if they like you be and to talk like a girl or to have sex change surgery :)

SredniVashtar

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
what SredniVashtar boy-girl are you having the same dilemma ..lol
just flip the coin, or better yet ask your muslim lovers if they like you be and to talk like a girl or to have sex change surgery :)

Are you my long-lost son or something? With a mother like yours I guess the identity of your father remains a mystery. Otherwise it's hard to account for your strange obsession.

Dr. MD MD

The GOP refuses to "go nuclear" to get their health car plan passed. They fear reprisal from the Dems. However, they control EVERYTHING right now. Why such timidity?!  ???

Unless, they actually agree with the Dems and this is why they're committing suicide over this?  :-\

CozyRozie

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
Are you my long-lost son or something? With a mother like yours I guess the identity of your father remains a mystery. Otherwise it's hard to account for your strange obsession.

SredniVashtar, you are getting very lame lately girl...are you having that time of the month now??

Kidnostad3

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
Are you my long-lost son or something? With a mother like yours I guess the identity of your father remains a mystery. Otherwise it's hard to account for your strange obsession.

He wants to have your babies dude.  Strange but true. 

SredniVashtar

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
SredniVashtar, you are getting very lame lately girl...are you having that time of the month now??

Sounds like you probably are some by-blow from my irresponsible youth. Good luck getting child support. I suggest following your mother's career path and entering the world of prostitution. Plenty of unwholesome exercise and you get to meet lots of people. Now go and lose yourself again, junior!

CozyRozie

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on July 18, 2017, 03:08:53 PM
I want to have your babies SredniVashtar.  Strange but true.

Wow,Kidnostad3 -you sneaky bitch you, but I'm not shocked ::)
{..I always knew that you are "special"}

CozyRozie

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 03:18:51 PM
Sounds like you probably are some by-blow from my irresponsible youth. Good luck getting child support. I suggest following your mother's career path and entering the world of prostitution. Plenty of unwholesome exercise and you get to meet lots of people. Now go and lose yourself again, junior!

lame again, what's the matter with you SredniVashtar ??
did your muslim lovers fucked all the wit out of you. lol ??

Juan

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 18, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
The GOP refuses to "go nuclear" to get their health car plan passed. They fear reprisal from the Dems. However, they control EVERYTHING right now. Why such timidity?!  ???

Unless, they actually agree with the Dems and this is why they're committing suicide over this?  :-\
The GOP can't go nuclear - they don't even have 50-votes. Eight years of campaign promises down the drain. They're as crooked as Hillary - just not as good at it.

albrecht

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 18, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
Are you my long-lost son or something? With a mother like yours I guess the identity of your father remains a mystery. Otherwise it's hard to account for your strange obsession.
Ha, this hits, somewhat, close to home. Social networking and the internet have a down side. An old HS friend of mine called me and said "remember when we got all got drunk and I hit Bxxxx that summer after school and she said she thought she might be pregnant and then married E***?" Well, somehow he found her Facebook and saw pictures of her adult son who looks VERY similar to him and nothing like the father (there were pics there.) The one time fling (her boyfriend was out of town,) the quick marriage and birth of kid soon after, and the looks of the now adult kid is very suspicious. I don't have facebook so not sure how it works but out of some misguided honor or curiosity he PM'ed the woman. She didn't reply and has blocked him from their social media accounts. I say better off for the kid not to know and advise my friend "WTF, are you TRYING to get sued to child support or something?" (He said there is statute of limitations for that since the kid is well into adulthood, not sure about that.) I think the kid is better off not knowing and told my friend not to bother them or cause that family turmoil or recriminations. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Inside-The-Beltway lobbyists, lawyers, politicians, tax accountants, and bureaucrats: take note of this great news! Use your tax-payer funded platinum healthcare policies and get these prescriptions. I'm not a doctor but I'll play one on BG: Take several with a glass of scotch and call me in the morning.
http://wtop.com/dc/2017/07/dc-implements-death-with-dignity-act/

albrecht

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 18, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
The GOP refuses to "go nuclear" to get their health car plan passed. They fear reprisal from the Dems. However, they control EVERYTHING right now. Why such timidity?!  ???

Unless, they actually agree with the Dems and this is why they're committing suicide over this?  :-\
This is typical of Republicans. Many are Dems in sheep's clothing. Others are very principled that they will never change their opinion: perfection or nothing, no negotiation or long-term, strategic thinking. Others are just politicians and believe the MSM that Obamacare is good, but also understand once granted an entitlement (even if it is just a perceived entitlement) it is very hard to take away due to bureaucrats, laws, regulations, public who thinks they want it, systemic inertia, etc. Others are just totally in the hands of lobbyists.

Most all of them should avail themselves of the new DC law. They have tax-payer funded platinum plans. Use them.
http://wtop.com/dc/2017/07/dc-implements-death-with-dignity-act/

CozyRozie

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2017, 04:02:39 PM
Ha, this hits, somewhat, close to home. Social networking and the internet have a down side. An old HS friend of mine called me and said "remember when we got all got drunk and I hit Bxxxx that summer after school and she said she thought she might be pregnant and then married E***?" Well, somehow he found her Facebook and saw pictures of her adult son who looks VERY similar to him and nothing like the father (there were pics there.) The one time fling (her boyfriend was out of town,) the quick marriage and birth of kid soon after, and the looks of the now adult kid is very suspicious. I don't have facebook so not sure how it works but out of some misguided honor or curiosity he PM'ed the woman. She didn't reply and has blocked him from their social media accounts. I say better off for the kid not to know and advise my friend "WTF, are you TRYING to get sued to child support or something?" (He said there is statute of limitations for that since the kid is well into adulthood, not sure about that.) I think the kid is better off not knowing and told my friend not to bother them or cause that family turmoil or recriminations. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Inside-The-Beltway lobbyists, lawyers, politicians, tax accountants, and bureaucrats: take note of this great news! Use your tax-payer funded platinum healthcare policies and get these prescriptions. I'm not a doctor but I'll play one on BG: Take several with a glass of scotch and call me in the morning.
http://wtop.com/dc/2017/07/dc-implements-death-with-dignity-act/

isn't the same thing with Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea looking like exact copy of -what's his name... ?

albrecht

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
isn't the same thing with Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea looking like exact copy of -what's his name... ?
Webster Hubble was the rumor. Bill also allegedly had at least one offspring from his philandering.
Things happen and social media and the internet can connect the dots and bring up incidents of the past.
https://twitter.com/danney_williams/status/783319240665403392/video/1
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6fyqhe/chelsea_clinton_on_the_left_rebecca_hubbell/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=webster+hubble+chelsea&t=ffab&iax=1&ia=images

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on July 18, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
The GOP refuses to "go nuclear" to get their health car plan passed. They fear reprisal from the Dems. However, they control EVERYTHING right now. Why such timidity?!  ???

Unless, they actually agree with the Dems and this is why they're committing suicide over this?  :-\

They still need 50 votes + the VP to get anything passed in the Senate.  There's no nuclear option available.

CozyRozie

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Webster Hubble was the rumor. Bill also allegedly had at least one offspring from his philandering.
Things happen and social media and the internet can connect the dots and bring up incidents of the past.
https://twitter.com/danney_williams/status/783319240665403392/video/1
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6fyqhe/chelsea_clinton_on_the_left_rebecca_hubbell/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=webster+hubble+chelsea&t=ffab&iax=1&ia=images

O yes it was him../ thanks.

And I remember this guy during Presidential elections watching his live press conference...
wonder if Bill has some human feelings towards him.

Wasn't there are case of a woman being shot dead by Obama's security few years ago when she drove near W-House 
and she was having his baby ...don't remember exactly but it was very sad story

i don't need to agree with some one if i think they're right. right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uesIZg4nBeQ

CozyRozie

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Webster Hubble was the rumor. Bill also allegedly had at least one offspring from his philandering.
Things happen and social media and the internet can connect the dots and bring up incidents of the past.
https://twitter.com/danney_williams/status/783319240665403392/video/1
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6fyqhe/chelsea_clinton_on_the_left_rebecca_hubbell/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=webster+hubble+chelsea&t=ffab&iax=1&ia=images

how did Hillary went from spreading for the Arkansas stallion to spread for that guy.. strange -was it true love? 

albrecht

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
how did Hillary went from spreading for the Arkansas stallion to spread for that guy.. strange -was it true love?
It was most likely a political/business calculation by Hillary. At the time Hubbell was a influential at the firm and in Arkansas. I could even see Hillary using him simply as a "donor sperm" for what would become Chelsea because of a political calculation that a marriage should have at least one child to look good for the voters and satisfy a certain demographic (what was then called "soccer moms.") Bill, doing as he was and from his broken family, was probably deemed not quality material and using Hubbell as a donor would also give Hillary some "information" to hold over Bill and even sort of out of spite due to his many dalliances.

albrecht

Quote from: th'ONE on July 18, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
O yes it was him../ thanks.

Wasn't there are case of a woman being shot dead by Obama's security few years ago when she drove near W-House 
and she was having his baby ...don't remember exactly but it was very sad story
I recall the shooting but not that other rumor. I do recall a number of young men surrounding Obama and/or associated with Obama's church who have mysteriously or violently died (Alex Okrent, Donald Young, Larry Bland, and Nate Spencer) and his frequent trips as President with proclaimed "body men," always without Michelle, that raised eyebrows. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course.

Gd5150

Quote from: albrecht on July 18, 2017, 01:43:28 PM
I think we should let the individual States implement whatever healthcare system they wish. A 'single payer" socialist, no healthcare and private market only, to mixed systems. Many of our States are larger in size and population than many European countries and we have a wide diversity of people and ideas. Why must there always be "one answer?" Let the States handle it as they wish and let us see the effectiveness and cost/benefits of the ideas. They could decide what to cover, who it covers (for example California could say that child sex change operations and illegals would be covered but Iowa might not.) Veterans and Medicare can remain but see what happens. No Federal funding and the States need to figure out funding (by taxes, fees, incentives, or whatever.) And what about a monetary benefit for healthy people without a preexisting condition? And screening immigrants for diseases and healthy lifestyle and only take those people in.

Yes the all or nothing approach keeps the govt from
Ever doing anything useful. Hence why you don't want them running healthcare into the toilet as they have succeeded in doin so now.

At this point letting the states handle it sounds good. The only problem is the red states open market system will be much cheaper and provide the best coverage in the world leaving no one left to pay for the failed over priced coverage of the precious blue state single payer system. The only answer would be to build a wall, around the red states.

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