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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 19, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
Remember.  YP live on the other side of the pond and can't see, first hand, what is going on here.  He has to rely on second-hand information fed to him by the Fake News Media of his choice.

Yeah? I think I'm in a significantly stronger position to dicipher fact from fiction than someone who get's their news from the latest Trump self aggrandising tweet or rally.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 19, 2017, 02:48:53 PM
FIFY  ;)

And that's your best? No wonder you gravitate to the manbaby.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on February 19, 2017, 02:45:11 PM
The point being Trump said it had happened the day before. But don't let real fact get in tne way of alternative facts.
More "Fake News" from a right-wing source, The NYTimes:
"“We’ve had a few incidents,” Mr. Westin said, referring to the murder of the social worker, Alexandra Mezher, 22, who was stabbed last Monday at a home for unaccompanied minors in Gothenburg where she worked. One of the residents has been arrested in the crime."
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/world/europe/attempted-attack-on-young-migrants-in-sweden-drew-rival-groups-together.html?_r=0
Or maybe Trump was referring to such type of racial and ethnic strife from "right-wing" citizens on minorities, or immigrants, as a backlash becoming a possible future in the country Obama divided? I don't know I didn't watch the speech. I don't like Trump's frequent claims that turn about to be suspect but love how he is making the left and the media squirm and go apoplectic. It is hilarious.

Ah beautiful, tolerant Sweden. More "fake news" from the right-wing Washington Post this stuff in Sweden, and other European countries for years:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/29/in-swedens-ikea-attack-two-migrants-two-murders-and-rampant-fear-of-refugees/?utm_term=.53ede4d46852


Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on February 19, 2017, 02:46:03 PM
Let's assume you're correct; what are the real statistics?  Citing Trump dpesn't count btw. He wouldn't know truth if it hit him full in the face.

How would I know?  All I'm saying is Obama and Hilary - and Bill Clinton for that matter - lie about pretty much everything, and the Fake New Media never say a word about it, ever.  So it's a bit of an eye-roll of my own when I'm suddenly constantly hearing what a liar someone else is.

As far as Fake Statistics, we can go through how easily that is to manipulate again if you wish.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 19, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
Well, at least you have one part right; it IS Meister, *a Liberal*...

Oh, I'm pretty sure you're a ''Progressive''

albrecht

This would be a more fun idea! I don't have twitter and think anything that limits length is questionable but, in some circumstances understandable.

"Sweden’s official Twitter account @Sweden, which is handed over to a private citizen each week, kept busy reassuring followers that there wasn’t a terrorist incident in the country."

(Not racist Sweden is not allow the non-citizen "migrants" or "refugees" access to the account. The results would be hilarious but Sweden is racist so "only citizens."

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on February 19, 2017, 02:55:08 PM
More "Fake News" from a right-wing source, The NYTimes:
"“We’ve had a few incidents,” Mr. Westin said, referring to the murder of the social worker, Alexandra Mezher, 22, who was stabbed last Monday at a home for unaccompanied minors in Gothenburg where she worked. One of the residents has been arrested in the crime."
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/01/world/europe/attempted-attack-on-young-migrants-in-sweden-drew-rival-groups-together.html?_r=0
Or maybe Trump was referring to such type of racial and ethnic strife from "right-wing" citizens on minorities, or immigrants, as a backlash becoming a possible future in the country Obama divided? I don't know I didn't watch the speech. I don't like Trump's frequent claims that turn about to be suspect but love how he is making the left and the media squirm and go apoplectic. It is hilarious.

Ah beautiful, tolerant Sweden. More "fake news" from the right-wing Washington Post this stuff in Sweden, and other European countries for years:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/29/in-swedens-ikea-attack-two-migrants-two-murders-and-rampant-fear-of-refugees/?utm_term=.53ede4d46852

I didn't watch the speech. He might have misread the teleprompter or his notes. He may have misheard the briefing on the bombing in Sehwan, Pakistan

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15W0OE

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on February 19, 2017, 02:55:08 PM
I don't know I didn't watch the speech. I don't like Trump's frequent claims that turn about to be suspect but love how he is making the left and the media squirm and go apoplectic. It is hilarious.

The thing is, it isn't 'the left' he lies to. Its everyone. About everything. The fake news is anything he doesn't like, and the Trumpers will shit their collective depends when he makes inroads into closing down the press and replaces it with Trumpspeak. They never really believed he'd try to be a real dictator, not really. They thought he was joking. Especially the bit in his campaigning about clamping down on the internet.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2017, 03:01:03 PM
I didn't watch the speech. He might have misread the teleprompter or his notes. He may have misheard the briefing on the bombing in Sehwan, Pakistan

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15W0OE

Geography and keeping up to date on shit not on twatter isn't his strong point.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on February 19, 2017, 03:04:23 PM
Geography and keeping up to date on shit not on twatter isn't his strong point.

Having put up with 8 years of one of the biggest liars of anything with consequence in history, I still give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

Obama went to all 57 states.

Any changes to health care will involve lengthy public debate with open forums in CSPAN.

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Benghazi was due to an youtube video noone had seen.

There is a redline in Syria.

Go have some tea and a cookie.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on February 19, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
The thing is, it isn't 'the left' he lies to. Its everyone. About everything. The fake news is anything he doesn't like, and the Trumpers will shit their collective depends when he makes inroads into closing down the press and replaces it with Trumpspeak. They never really believed he'd try to be a real dictator, not really. They thought he was joking. Especially the bit in his campaigning about clamping down on the internet.
So far he has appointed people, that for the most part, I like. Has rounded-up some illegals. Which is good. And is pissing off many career bureaucrats, politicians, and medial personalities. Which is awesome. And turning Hollywood "experts" into shivering bat-shit crazy messes. Which is nice.

I don't like him on immigration (too soft,) States' Rights (too much love for Federal, and especially Executive, powers- like most other modern Presidents, unfortunately,) and I don't think he is (like other politicians) telling the truth about certain jobs and industries which due to technology and economics don't make sense to keep or promote and will, eventually, go away. He needs to talk more about trade being good, when deals are done right between people and companies (not over-arching deals that eliminate legal, environmental, or sovereignty,) and training/education for the future ("do you really want to work in a mine? Or want your kid to grow-up to do repetitive, mindless tasks on an assembly line?") He also was suspiciously close to Hollywood and media-types in the past.

starrmtn001

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
Having put up with 8 years of one of the biggest liars of anything with consequence in history, I still give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

Obama went to all 57 states.

Any changes to health care will involve lengthy public debate with open forums in CSPAN.

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Benghazi was due to an youtube video noone had seen.

There is a redline in Syria.

Go have some tea and a cookie.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on February 19, 2017, 02:52:11 PM
And that's your best? No wonder you gravitate to the manbaby.

You abandoned reason long ago. Stop pretending. Stop trying.  ;)


Lt.Uhura

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 19, 2017, 02:57:30 PM
How would I know?  All I'm saying is Obama and Hilary - and Bill Clinton for that matter - lie about pretty much everything, and the Fake New Media never say a word about it, ever.  So it's a bit of an eye-roll of my own when I'm suddenly constantly hearing what a liar someone else is.

As far as Fake Statistics, we can go through how easily that is to manipulate again if you wish.

Your incessant defense of pathological liar Trump is pathetic. Even if evidence of his lies were handed to you on a silver platter you would call it "faked" or "manipulated" and still make excuses for him. Your unconditional devotion to Trump is a good example of how cult leaders find followers.

Obama
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
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Trump
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Lt.Uhura

Because we're talking about politicians, even if you give them half-truths and better that puts Obama at 75%, to Trump's 30%. Trump is just getting started. Assuming he lasts till the end of the year he may have a hard time keeping it at 30%.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 19, 2017, 04:30:36 PM
Your incessant defense of pathological liar Trump is pathetic. Even if evidence of his lies were handed to you on a silver platter you would call it "faked" or "manipulated" and still make excuses for him. Your unconditional devotion to Trump is a good example of how cult leaders find followers.

Obama
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
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Trump
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Wow! What a big surprise that a Soros funded org would find Obama more truthy.  ;D

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 19, 2017, 04:43:56 PM
Wow! What a big surprise that a Soros funded org would find Obama more truthy.  ;D

Since Obama was in office for 8 years and Trump has been in office for 3 weeks, an open-minded person may ask why they picked the stories to score. Seems like Trump should have like 6.

Remember, the ACA will save the average family $2500 per year.


LOL @ Mr. Sulu's Twitter meltdown.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 19, 2017, 03:54:35 PM
Forgiveness √

So now you make a cartoon out of a religious symbol.  Of course you have a right to do so but it tells us all a lot about your basic character and breeding.  It's not about believing or not believing.  It's just a very low class thing to do, but then it's typical of the leftist swine that are currently showing their true colors.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Since Obama was in office for 8 years and Trump has been in office for 3 weeks, an open-minded person may ask why they picked the stories to score. Seems like Trump should have like 6.

Remember, the ACA will save the average family $2500 per year.

That's because Trump is an unparalleled liar. He already made liar of the year during in the early days of his campaign. He has lied his entire life, even bragged about it. That's why it's so absurd to hear his devotees try and defend his lying.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 19, 2017, 05:17:47 PM
That's because Trump is an unparalleled liar.

You're doing a bang up job yourself!  ;D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 19, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
Because we're talking about politicians, even if you give them half-truths and better that puts Obama at 75%, to Trump's 30%. Trump is just getting started. Assuming he lasts till the end of the year he may have a hard time keeping it at 30%.

You really are shameless.   Politifact is a totally bogus operation and you know it. 

the_Stranger

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
So now you make a cartoon out of a religious symbol.  Of course you have a right to do so but it tells us all a lot about your basic character and breeding.  It's not about believing or not believing.  It's just a very low class thing to do, but then it's typical of the leftist swine that are currently showing their true colors.
You seem triggered, need a safe space?

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 19, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
So now you make a cartoon out of a religious symbol.  Of course you have a right to do so but it tells us all a lot about your basic character and breeding.  It's not about believing or not believing.  It's just a very low class thing to do, but then it's typical of the leftist swine that are currently showing their true colors.

I'm Jewish. He's my people (not yours) so FU.
And trust me; HE WOULD APPROVE!

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 19, 2017, 05:17:47 PM
That's because Trump is an unparalleled liar. He already made liar of the year during in the early days of his campaign. He has lied his entire life, even bragged about it. That's why it's so absurd to hear his devotees try and defend his lying.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/dec/21/2015-lie-year-donald-trump-campaign-misstatements/

When was Obama lying about Hillary's qualifications to be President?  In 2008 when he was campaigning against her, or in 2016 when he was campaigning for her? 


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