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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Quote from: pyewacket on February 04, 2017, 04:41:34 PM

Ha! I wouldn't presume to compare my life situation to that of far too many women in the third world nor would I claim to speak for all women. The fashion industry is an ugly one for sure. I buy American- made by union/labor law  protected workers- not slave/child labor.

For that- I Eddie fired me. Then I told her my clothes were made by Appalachian Mountain dwellers and she hired me back. We are launching a new line called Hillbilly Habiliments.

Cheers, Sweetie Darling

Otherwise known as haute coalture.

Quote from: zeebo on February 04, 2017, 05:22:32 PM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure jaunty hats were involved.

My ancestors were renowned far and wide for their jaunty hats.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: TigerLily on February 04, 2017, 05:16:12 PM
Oops. Caught me. I didn't read the caption, just Pye's pithy post. All those middle eastern girls look the same to me out of their burkas; scared, defenseless, abused. But ineligible to come here

And I'm finishing the third book of the Atlantis Trilogy. Soon to be a major motion picture. Don't imply I'm not well-read

He means more than just romance novels.  :D

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 04, 2017, 04:20:52 PM
What do you think? Should we give her a pass on the Muslim Ban?
Umm, not sure your point here. The Yazidis are not Muslim. That is why the Muzzies like to kill or enslave them (like any kaffir.)

Muslims consider them even worse than Christians or Jews, who they also like to kill or at least tax heavily, because the Muzzies think that they worship a totally different god (a peacock.) I'm for saving them and other minority religions in the area giving them a safe zone or even limited immigration once thoroughly vetted. But Islam is the problem. Not radical Islam, not terrorism (which is only a tactic used but the Muzzies are very comfortable with using other means, like mass migration, birth-rates, using our kindness and freedom/rights, etc in conquest) but Muhammadanism, to use a term that has fallen out of favor, lest we offend and get more throats slit. Even Islam-lite is problematic with its backwards thinking and political nature. Admittedly many, if not most, religions or belief systems have had problems- but most have evolved, had reformations, become secularized, or separated religion from civic life, etc. Except Muhammadanism, which is going backwards thanks to some rich "royals" that we promoted and pay.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 04, 2017, 05:08:26 PM
Nice try PaperBoy. If we are to believe your misrepresentation, it would follow that you disagree with the Electoral College--which unlike your map, adjusts for population.

Here's the appropriate population adjusted figures for you as reported by gun.com (lest I be accused of quoting a "fake" source)

The highest number of deaths come across the gun-lovin’ South, with Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana and Oklahoma among the highest. Moving west, Montana, Wyoming and Alaska also top the charts.

http://www.guns.com/2015/06/26/want-to-know-where-your-state-falls-with-firearm-deaths/

Just the quote from the article ''across the gun-lovin’ South'' tells me the statistics are going to be manipulated to the full extent.  How can this be considered non-biased with that it there?

But aren't we really talking about just homicides, rather than all gun deaths?  What would the table and map look like if gun deaths were segregated by type, and gun homicides were show as a separate item?  I ask because most people are interested in where are they likely to be in the wrong place and be shot, not where gun suicides take place. (as tragic as that is)

albrecht

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 04, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Otherwise known as haute coalture.
You and some people here should visit Austin for the O. Henry Pun-Off. It is fun but also cringe-worthy with some of the puns contestants make.

K_Dubb



I was wrong; it was Greenland where the well-preserved medieval burials were found, dating to around 1430.  All the more remarkable.  Here are men's hose, worn with what was basically a garter belt.  Also a cool hood.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herjolfsnes

Despite the name, I'd say the kilt hose worn today are more related to the kind of leg-bindings still seen in Sami costume, since they don't go past the knee.  This is especially clear when the traditionally laced shoes are worn.

This is Trump-related on the basis of his Scottish ancestry.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 04, 2017, 05:16:22 PM
Just so everyone's clear, none of my ancestors capered in parti-colored hose. They frisked and cavorted, and some were said to have had a gamboling addiction, but they drew the line at capering.

So you descended from nymphs and satyrs.  Cool!  My ancestors just painted themselves blue and hauled huge stones from far away to Salisbury.  What a drag. (Get it? drag as in drag a big stone.  Pretty funny huh?)

pate

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 30, 2017, 08:55:31 PM
Where does it say in the Constitution that a President can't fire anybody?

Didn't Reagan or someone fire all the striking ATCs (Air Traffic Controllers) or somesuch one time.  Or am I having a Mandela Moment?

I couldn't find an appropriate International Kaffee-Klatch beverage from Berlin to enjoy with my Mandela Moment, so this will have to do:




pyewacket

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 04, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Otherwise known as haute coalture.

Cheers, sweetie! With the widest range of atramentous tones mined from the most sumptuous fabrics.  ;)

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 04, 2017, 05:35:21 PM
So you descended from nymphs and satyrs.  Cool!  My ancestors just painted themselves blue and hauled huge stones from far away to Salisbury.  What a drag. (Get it? drag as in drag a big stone.  Pretty funny huh?)

Most of mine preferred plaid and were actually more the cabering type.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 04, 2017, 05:33:29 PM


I was wrong; it was Greenland where the well-preserved medieval burials were found, dating to around 1430.  All the more remarkable.  Here are men's hose, worn with what was basically a garter belt.  Also a cool hood.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herjolfsnes

Despite the name, I'd say the kilt hose worn today are more related to the kind of leg-bindings still seen in Sami costume, since they don't go past the knee.  This is especially clear when the traditionally laced shoes are worn.

This is Trump-related on the basis of his Scottish ancestry.
And Scottish golf resort ownership.
ps: got a book for Christmas "Song of the Vikings," haven't read it, yet, but sort of a biography of Snorri and description of the life/politics at the time in the region. Quite an interesting person and the times and politics is interesting.

pate

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on January 31, 2017, 01:00:00 AM
That would be a big improvement, seeing a third party emerge--especially to represent the centrists, stuck between the batshit crazy far right/far left.

As far as the roughly one-quarter of Americans who voted for Trump, I think the R voters who voted for him reluctantly as an anti-Hillary vote, would have no problem standing by their party.

What was Mr. Johnson's share of the Nat'l vote again?  Wait, who, what was>.?

Nefermynd...

pate

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on January 31, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
Oddly, my mate who is ex RN ..

I think it is perfectly normal that your husband used to be a nurse!  I applaud you for choosing a mate that is fighting against the existing cultural normatives.

Splendidly dashing or something like that!


Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 30, 2017, 11:35:46 AM
If you honestly believe that piffle then it's hard to know where to go from there, you obviously believe what you want to believe. I told you the other day what the crucial difference was. The right looks back to an idealised past, the left towards an idealised future. The right often (but not always) aligns itself with authority, usually via the church or the monarchy.

The right uses the concept of the nation around a centralising myth. In the case of Nazism it was racial purity, with the American right it's freedom. Or rather 'freedom', since it doesn't really exist. You use the idea of freedom so often it's stopped having any meaning and has become a fetish. Trump and his acolytes are doing what politicians well to the right have always done - demonise certain groups while telling everyone that they need to get back to some sort of prelapsarian state that was never really there.

If you see BLM as comparable to the Brownshirts, well...you don't know much about the SA. I don't think you believe half of what you say anyway, but you're such a cliche machine that you spit them out without waiting for them to pass through your brain first.

There is a grain of truth in there, although it's in need of restating.

The ''Right'' isn't looking back to an ''idealized past'', while the ''Left'' looks towards an ''idealized future''.  The ''Right'' takes into consideration what's worked and not worked in the past (time and again), and tries to apply those lessons to the modern world to the extent they are still valid.  With the key understanding that human nature doesn't change much. 

If the Left has a coherent ''idealized future'', they ought to spell out exactly what that is and try using persuasion to sell it.


MachiaVelli


Trump is a narcissistic fucking moron. Make no doubts about this.

We live in a country divided.

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 04, 2017, 04:39:01 PM
When you become aware that your ancestors capered about in particolored hose, there is no room for such fine discrimination.  Wear what you like.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on February 04, 2017, 05:30:35 PM
Umm, not sure your point here. The Yazidis are not Muslim. That is why the Muzzies like to kill or enslave them (like any kaffir.)

Muslims consider them even worse than Christians or Jews, who they also like to kill or at least tax heavily, because the Muzzies think that they worship a totally different god (a peacock.) I'm for saving them and other minority religions in the area giving them a safe zone or even limited immigration once thoroughly vetted. But Islam is the problem. Not radical Islam, not terrorism (which is only a tactic used but the Muzzies are very comfortable with using other means, like mass migration, birth-rates, using our kindness and freedom/rights, etc in conquest) but Muhammadanism, to use a term that has fallen out of favor, lest we offend and get more throats slit. Even Islam-lite is problematic with its backwards thinking and political nature. Admittedly many, if not most, religions or belief systems have had problems- but most have evolved, had reformations, become secularized, or separated religion from civic life, etc. Except Muhammadanism, which is going backwards thanks to some rich "royals" that we promoted and pay.

Albrecht you've gotta take my word on this   Knee jerk liberals can't get their heads around nuanced issues. Never having really come to grips with reality, they suffer from terminal idealism.  They would gladly surrender our sovereignty and security to take in all the sad eyed people with a story in the world. Never really sacrificing anything of themselves, they insist that we all do. They will pursue their fantasies until it's too late in the manner of Neville Chamberlin and others throughout history.  Think of them as proof of the axiom that "there are none so blind as those who will not see."

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on February 04, 2017, 05:46:22 PM
And Scottish golf resort ownership.
ps: got a book for Christmas "Song of the Vikings," haven't read it, yet, but sort of a biography of Snorri and description of the life/politics at the time in the region. Quite an interesting person and the times and politics is interesting.

Cool, I ordered it!

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 04, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
...  Knee jerk liberals can't get their heads around nuanced issues. Never having really come to grips with reality, they suffer from terminal idealism.  They would gladly surrender our sovereignty and security to take in all the sad eyed people with a story in the world. Never really sacrificing anything of themselves, they insist that we all do. They will pursue their fantasies until it's too late...

For example those claiming we don't have enough Islamic terrorist events here to warrant policies to more thoroughly vet Moslems and individuals from certain countries who want to come here.

Apparently we're supposed to wait until we're France to do so.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 04, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Just the quote from the article ''across the gun-lovin’ South'' tells me the statistics are going to be manipulated to the full extent.  How can this be considered non-biased with that it there?

But aren't we really talking about just homicides, rather than all gun deaths?  What would the table and map look like if gun deaths were segregated by type, and gun homicides were show as a separate item?  I ask because most people are interested in where are they likely to be in the wrong place and be shot, not where gun suicides take place. (as tragic as that is)

If you'll see, the statistics gun.com article used are from the CDC (via Kaiser Family Foundation). If the good folks at gun.com wanted to fiddle with the findings it looks like they chose not to, and in fact, seemed to make a point of noting their gun-lovin' southern brethren scoring so high on the chart.

Statistically, the chances still remain higher of being killed by someone you know (including oneself), than being killed in "the wrong place" by a stranger.

At this website (The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention) there's an interactive map with state by state statistics. Or you can go to the CDC and use their statistics to make your own maps for suicide vs homicide rates, etc.

http://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
www.cdc.gov

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: MachiaVelli on February 04, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
Trump is a narcissistic fucking moron. Make no doubts about this.

We live in a country divided.

Welcome to BellGab! Let us here more about how you've arrived at this conclusion.  ;D

MachiaVelli

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 04, 2017, 06:19:12 PM


Statistically, the chances still remain higher of being killed by someone you know (including oneself), than being killed in "the wrong place" by a stranger.



http://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
www.cdc.gov

Statistically If i own a gun and you don't and we are both confronted by gun wielding maniacs i have a higher chance of survival. Maybe not by much but i'm sure my odds of surviving the ordeal are higher than that of yours being forced into a corner cowering in the fetal position closing your eyes and wishing for things to go away , or praying to some 'God' to spare your life.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 04, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
If you'll see, the statistics gun.com article used are from the CDC (via Kaiser Family Foundation). If the good folks at gun.com wanted to fiddle with the findings it looks like they chose not to, and in fact, seemed to make a point of noting their gun-lovin' southern brethren scoring so high on the chart.

Statistically, the chances still remain higher of being killed by someone you know (including oneself),
than being killed in "the wrong place" by a stranger.

At this website (The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention) there's an interactive map with state by state statistics. Or you can go to the CDC and use their statistics to make your own maps for suicide vs homicide rates, etc.

http://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
www.cdc.gov

Do you see how they ignore ideas that are contrary to their world view?  This one has been harping on shooting statistics ad absurdium.  Doesn't skip a beat.  No hope for her at all.  Us good, them bad.  Completely incapable of circumspection.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 04, 2017, 06:15:17 PM
Cool, I ordered it!
Cool, I hope I didn't screw you over since I haven't actually read it, yet, just looked at the blurb and some of the reviews.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 04, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
If you'll see, the statistics gun.com article used are from the CDC (via Kaiser Family Foundation). If the good folks at gun.com wanted to fiddle with the findings it looks like they chose not to, and in fact, seemed to make a point of noting their gun-lovin' southern brethren scoring so high on the chart.

Statistically, the chances still remain higher of being killed by someone you know (including oneself), than being killed in "the wrong place" by a stranger.

At this website (The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention) there's an interactive map with state by state statistics. Or you can go to the CDC and use their statistics to make your own maps for suicide vs homicide rates, etc.

http://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
www.cdc.gov

Would you rather walk around Chicago's south side, or Kentucky?

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: MachiaVelli on February 04, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Statistically If i own a gun and you don't and we are both confronted by gun wielding maniacs i have a higher chance of survival. Maybe not by much but i'm sure my odds of surviving the ordeal are higher than that of yours being forced into a corner cowering in the fetal position closing your eyes and wishing for things to go away , or praying to some 'God' to spare your life.

Statistically the odds of me and you being confronted by gun-wielding maniacs are much lower than either of us killing ourselves with our own gun.

MachiaVelli

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 04, 2017, 06:31:55 PM
Statistically the odds of me and you being confronted by gun-wielding maniacs are much lower than either of us killing ourselves with our own gun.

Statistically the odds of you and i contracting salmonella from our own mishandling of chicken are potentially higher than those of someone else preparing it for us. Unless of course you have been trained and versed in the handling of said chicken.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: MachiaVelli on February 04, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
Trump is a narcissistic fucking moron. Make no doubts about this.

We live in a country divided.

That may be true, but he is the narcissistic fucking moron that the people have elected.  Think what you want.  I thought much the same about Obama but I didn't hire thugs and encourage no nothing college students to riot and injure people.  Once you've done that whether it had been against Hilliary had she been elected or Trump, you have become my mortal enemy.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 04, 2017, 04:39:01 PM
When you become aware that your ancestors capered about in particolored hose, there is no room for such fine discrimination.  Wear what you like.

You've been waiting for a chance to use the word "particolored" on Bellgab for years, haven't you. It's alright, I'm still waiting the right opportunity to drop "Noorydactyl".

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