President Donald J. Trump

[VtaGeezer]

Republicans do not wish to be associated with him.

This may harm DT's campaign supprt, but would be a great thing for a Trump administration.  We can call it "The Great Flush" as the inside-the-beltway career insiders are sent packing. DT's Rolodex would be his one of his greatest assets.

[FightTheFuture]

Another weak deflection try.  Maybe your Alzheimer's blocks your memory of Cruz's 2013 Federal shutdown that cost $3B, by the lowest estimates, in pay to locked-out Federal workers and lost overhead costs.  Multiply it several times for the real cost. Most financial monitors put the cost to the economy of Cruz's LOOK-AT-ME! act at over $20 Billion. And this was barely three months into the self-worshiping prick's first-ever elected office.  Last week I thought I almost bumped into Rafael while walking our mutts. but it was a just a rattlesnake.

Horseshit. Nobody lost a penny in pay. All that money, that was due to them, was retroactively paid....probably with interest, I assume. Get your facts straight, old man.  Even if every government employee was laid off, who cares? They serve at the behest of the American taxpayer. Senator Cruz did exactly what his constituents sent him to Washington to do, yet you have the temerity to accuse him of fleecing the American taxpayer. It's a joke. You are a joke, sir.

[VtaGeezer]

Horseshit. Nobody lost a penny in pay. All that money, that was due to them, was retroactively paid....probably with interest, I assume. Get your facts straight, old man.  Even if every government employee was laid off, who cares? They serve at the behest of the American taxpayer. Senator Cruz did exactly what his constituents sent him to Washington to do, yet you have the temerity to accuse him of fleecing the American taxpayer. It's a joke. You are a joke, sir.

Are you that thick?  Sure they got paid, doofus. For staying home.  Fed employees got paid (eventually) but the government was...read carefully now...shut down.  A few supervisors covered in some jobs, and some of them got OT when Rafael's bill was paid by the rest of us.  They love shutdowns...extra paid vacation.  I won't get into technical shit like penalties due for late payment on govt contracts that are beyond you Cruzites.  In any other line of work, your boy would be doing time for grand larceny...very grand.

[TigerLily]

MV scrubbed the sh!thouse. So I'm back, baby! 

Hey, aldous. This one is for you. Spoiler Alert: Johnson is a pothead and proud of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsiSaTzZuE

[Dr. MD MD]

MV scrubbed the sh!thouse. So I'm back, baby! 

Hey, aldous. This one is for you. Spoiler Alert: Johnson is a pothead and proud of it

I look forward to the day when people aren't demeaned and called names because of their use of certain medications.

And, people, please, stop referring to diabetics as insulin junkies!  : 

[aldousburbank]

MV scrubbed the sh!thouse. So I'm back, baby! 

Hey, aldous. This one is for you. Spoiler Alert: Johnson is a pothead and proud of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsiSaTzZuE

I stand behind Johnson!

Seriously though, thanks for that. Even though, as Imus says, he looks like an escaped mental patient, I've always liked the dude. Was quite aware of him when he was guv in my neighboring state and I attended one of his keynote speeches at a major drug policy reform conference. He had a policy when he was governor to have an open door to his constituency each Thursday. You gotta love that. Normally I'm annoyed by Maher's schtick but this interview made him seem quite tolerable.

[TigerLily]

Here's the Maher you love to hate. I loved it. And facts is facts. Viva California!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNbMD96xgY

[Rix Gins]

Off today's msn home page. 

[VtaGeezer]

I won't be surprised to see Trump fritter away the political equivalent of a nuclear weapon he was given this morning by low-browing it instead of making a well-developed serious response to a clear case of gross incompetence by HMH while she was in the most sensitive Cabinet post except perhaps SecDefense.  I can think of a lot of substantial points to be made, but I suspect all we'll get from DT is more crass "Crooked Hillary" nonsense. 

[Jackstar]

I stand behind Johnson!

There's weed back there.

[21st Century Man]

I won't be surprised to see Trump fritter away the political equivalent of a nuclear weapon he was given this morning by low-browing it instead of making a well-developed serious response to a clear case of gross incompetence by HMH while she was in the most sensitive Cabinet post except perhaps SecDefense.  I can think of a lot of substantial points to be made, but I suspect all we'll get from DT is more crass "Crooked Hillary" nonsense.

Trump is one note.  He thinks the tactics he used on Cruz will also work with Hillary.  The thing is, the Democratic base doesn't care.  Anything is better than a Republican.  Sure some old Reagan Democrats and blue-dog Democrats may be swayed but not the "progressive" base which is the majority of the party.  The only thing that may pull voters over to Trump is if Sanders puts up a convention fight with Hillary and when he fails, his supporters may bolt but even under those circumstances, I bet most of them vote for Hillary.

[albrecht]

Trump is one note.  He thinks the tactics he used on Cruz will also work with Hillary.  The thing is, the Democratic base doesn't care.  Anything is better than a Republican.  Sure some old Reagan Democrats and blue-dog Democrats may be swayed but not the "progressive" base which is the majority of the party.  The only thing that may pull voters over to Trump is if Sanders puts up a convention fight with Hillary and when he fails, his supporters may bolt but even under those circumstances, I bet most of them vote for Hillary.

I tend toward pessimism also with regard to the future of the country (if a geographic location without a border, common language, values, mores, or laws could even be considered a country, certainly not a nation,) but Trump has an opportunity here. The clear corruption involved (Bill meeting with Lynch and the FBI Director saying all this stuff that would indict a common-person or low-level government employee but not because of her status) could be leveraged. Trump needs to milk the social media, youtubes, in addition to  tv/radio. But focus on the new media. And make a joke about Billary. Make memes about her corruption from 'cattle futures' to the FBI and DOJ being told to stand-down. Low-brow, sure. But that is the state of the country and education. Also, sic lawyers (and, more importantly, officials from other countries and States to get into the filings of the Clinton's Foundation(s,) their University/school stuff, and Bill's connections with Epstein and all those "Lolita" events and flights.  Yes, arcane details to most people- but that is how we got Capone. The more salacious (Epstein, Huma, rumors, etc) could be leveraged to the Kardasian audiences. And 'suck up' to Bernie's crowd and, if not get their votes, at least get them to stay home or vote "green" or some such.

[TigerLily]

Trump is one note.  He thinks the tactics he used on Cruz will also work with Hillary.  The thing is, the Democratic base doesn't care.  Anything is better than a Republican.  Sure some old Reagan Democrats and blue-dog Democrats may be swayed but not the "progressive" base which is the majority of the party.  The only thing that may pull voters over to Trump is if Sanders puts up a convention fight with Hillary and when he fails, his supporters may bolt but even under those circumstances, I bet most of them vote for Hillary.

21. You know us too well. Sure you're not really one of us?

[TigerLily]

I tend toward pessimism also with regard to the future of the country (if a geographic location without a border, common language, values, mores, or laws could even be considered a country, certainly not a nation,) but Trump has an opportunity here. The clear corruption involved (Bill meeting with Lynch and the FBI Director saying all this stuff that would indict a common-person or low-level government employee but not because of her status) could be leveraged. Trump needs to milk the social media, youtubes, in addition to  tv/radio. But focus on the new media. And make a joke about Billary. Make memes about her corruption from 'cattle futures' to the FBI and DOJ being told to stand-down. Low-brow, sure. But that is the state of the country and education. Also, sic lawyers (and, more importantly, officials from other countries and States to get into the filings of the Clinton's Foundation(s,) their University/school stuff, and Bill's connections with Epstein and all those "Lolita" events and flights.  Yes, arcane details to most people- but that is how we got Capone. The more salacious (Epstein, Huma, rumors, etc) could be leveraged to the Kardasian audiences. And 'suck up' to Bernie's crowd and, if not get their votes, at least get them to stay home or vote "green" or some such.

/reported.  to the Hillary for President counter-intelligence committee

[VtaGeezer]

Trump is one note. 

I'm still waiting a sign he can or wants to pull it off against the media dogpile and establishment back-stabbing he's had to contend with.  His reported short list for VP terrible; like he's still trying to win over the far right.

[albrecht]

/reported.  to the Hillary for President counter-intelligence committee

Yeah, but, believe me I'm not giving anything new. The Billary lawyers, focus groups, banks, lobbyists, and funders, know this. I'm just stating the obvious. Not giving away any secrets, especially since I'm not involved with the Trump campaign (will likely vote for him over other evils, he is too soft on some issues like immigration etc but two evils etc) but it should be obvious to his people to leverage all the Clinton issues over the decades (many younger people forget about Cattle Future trading, sending HIV and Hepatitis to people via prison blood, land deals, and stuff even before the national scene!) and if not get more votes get others so abused by them (personally or politically) to simply sit it out.

[21st Century Man]

21. You know us too well. Sure you're not really one of us?

LOL. I like to think of myself as progressive in a lot of ways but I have some core beliefs that differentiate myself from the Democratic Party namely that I don't believe in big government or big anything for that matter as the solution to all our problems.  Such things only lead to limitations on our freedoms. Take big corporations. They limit the diversity of products offered in the marketplace by effectively becoming monopolies and driving the little guy who may offer better quality products out of business.  There goes our freedom of choice. It seems the Republican Party is slowly following in the Democratic Party's footsteps and it galls me to no end.  And what's the alternative?  The Libertarian Party!  Ha.  What a joke.  They are all about the pot and little else.


I know you were just making a light comment but it so damn frustrating.   

[albrecht]

LOL. I like to think of myself as progressive in a lot of ways but I have some core beliefs that differentiate myself from the Democratic Party namely that I don't believe in big government or big anything for that matter as the solution to all our problems.  Such things only lead to limitations on our freedoms. Take big corporations. They limit the diversity of products offered in the marketplace by effectively becoming monopolies and driving the little guy who may offer better quality products out of business.  There goes our freedom of choice. It seems the Republican Party is slowly following in the Democratic Party's footsteps and it galls me to no end.  And what's the alternative?  The Libertarian Party!  Ha.  What a joke.  They are all about the pot and little else.


I know you were just making a light comment but it so damn frustrating.   

It is over. The most beautiful experiment has been corrupted, as predicted by the way. Sad. I'm not advocating violence (my thing is still voting- especially locally and jury nullification but "when in the course of human events."

[21st Century Man]

It is over. The most beautiful experiment has been corrupted, as predicted by the way. Sad. I'm not advocating violence (my thing is still voting- especially locally and jury nullification but "when in the course of human events."

Yep.  It does seem to be over but I haven't lost hope for some sort of revolution down the line though I hope it will be bloodless.  The concepts would work if the people of the US understood them and held those in power accountable but for some sad reason the people lack the will to do even that.  Is it any wonder why our politician's act in the same manner?  I'm about to throw off the political gauntlet.  I've pretty much lost complete faith in our government and frankly I'm tired of stressing myself out about it.  I wish I didn't care so damn much.

[starrmtn001]

Full Speech: Donald Trump Holds Rally in Raleigh, NC (7-5-16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQvIqjq8iCk

[Jackstar]

There is nothing, nothing, that could ever persuade me to vote for Newt "Gang Grinch" Gingrich.

[Value Of Pi]

Trump on Saddam:

"He was a bad guy â€" really bad guy," the presumptive Republican nominee told supporters in Raleigh, North Carolina. "But you know what? He did well. He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism."

[21st Century Man]

Trump on Saddam:

"He was a bad guy â€" really bad guy," the presumptive Republican nominee told supporters in Raleigh, North Carolina. "But you know what? He did well. He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism."

[WOTR]

Why are you confused.  They were all terrorists (they were brown and Muslim, right?)  What genocide? 

[21st Century Man]

Why are you confused.  They were all terrorists (they were brown and Muslim, right?)  What genocide? 

Saddam killed a lot of people besides terrorists.   I don't agree with the statement that Saddam was bad but he did a lot of good.  He was a fucking tyrant.  Not that that's an excuse for us to be involved.

[albrecht]

Saddam killed a lot of people besides terrorists.   I don't agree with the statement that Saddam was bad but he did a lot of good.  He was a fucking tyrant.  Not that that's an excuse for us to be involved.

It is a clusterf@ck but I'm still not sure if intended or mistakes, and who was in control. But there is a, sadly, argument n for allowing despots or strongmen in some regions. As bad as they are. Idk, usually it is all about 'great game' 'cold war' and other issues. The locals are not a concern.

[GravitySucks]

21. You know us too well. Sure you're not really one of us?

42.

[Dr. MD MD]

Saddam killed a lot of people besides terrorists.   I don't agree with the statement that Saddam was bad but he did a lot of good.  He was a fucking tyrant.  Not that that's an excuse for us to be involved.

The point is he was the United States tyrant in that area. We seem to be willing to tolerate the human rights abuses of tyrants as long as the oil keeps flowing and it's business as usual. The fact that we've been doing business with China this whole time is proof of that. Saddam actually asked our permission to invade Kuwait and was told that we were behind him 100%. We just forgot to mention that we meant standing behind him with a gun to his head. 

This might be enlightening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V0wFdUOf5o

[albrecht]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ

[FightTheFuture]

Rut roh

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/anti-Trump-forces-conscience-vote/2016/07/06/id/737428/