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Lt.Uhura

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 03, 2017, 08:16:53 PM
So far, this is the only evidence I have seen about Russian money having any influence on a 2016 presidential candidate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

You might want to read the link I provided for more insight into Russian money angle. Perhaps if Trump provided tax info outlining his debts...Of course that's not gonna happen...unless they're leaked. If he has nothing to hide, he shouldn't be concerned about potential leaks of his financial entanglements.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 08:30:55 PM
You might want to read the link I provided for more insight into Russian money angle. Perhaps if Trump provided tax info outlining his debts...Of course that's not gonna happen...unless they're leaked. If he has nothing to hide, he shouldn't be concerned about potential leaks of his financial entanglements.

I read the link. I have seen nothing from Trump's behavior that he has been influenced by discussions with the Russians.

I have seen evidence of how Clinton reacts to money waved around by foreign governments. Look into the $28 million she got from Morocco for having the EPA try to shut down Mosaic, Morocco's biggest competitor in phosphate mining. Then Lisa Jackson resigned from the EPA under the cloud of her own email scandal to go to work for - wait for it - the Clinton Foundation.

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
As promised I am attaching the recording of the harassing voicemail I received from a BelGaber.  I have had an expert analyze it and he tells me that it is definitely a woman and that we have an excellent voice signature.  I also have copies of some of the emails she sent to a number of commercial activities posing as me.  I was contacted by phone by more than a dozen of those commercial activities ranging from moving companies to car dealerships.  I even got a call from the Mormon Church in response to an email she sent on my behalf.

I know of no other BelGab poster with whom I have had an antagonistic relationships to any degree approaching that which I have had with Meister_000 and certainly not a woman.   Knowing the raging foul mouthed screeds she posts here on BelGab I can only conclude that she or one of her LGBT friends made the call and is responsible for stealing my identify which is a crime.  Of course Meister is quick to call other's who see through her shit sick and vile but how twisted and mean spirited does one have to be to rationalize this kind of thing. Who else would it be?   I'll let you all be the judge and, please, if you can think of any other BelGabber that you think is equally emotionally fucked up and might be responsible let me know by message.

This kind of identify theft for malicious purposes is a crime and there are particularly harsh penalties in Florida when victims are over the age of 65. My lawyer has referred me to another attorney who specializes in such cases and he assures me that the assholes involved in this can be tracked and prosecuted.

These shit-heels tell us they are the tolerant, enlightened, open minded folks among us.  They tell us they are the non-violent, non-judgmental,  inclusive, compassionate ones.  They have no understanding of the world around them, and are easy prey for the America-hating demagogues.  As ignorant fools, they feel justified protesting at peoples houses, boycotting the businesses of ordinary Americans who have different opinions than they on issues, smashing windows on cars that have the ''wrong'' bumper stickers, tearing up our cities and blocking access and traffic during their riots. 

They hate our system of government, our system of free exchange, our history, our Constitution.  They don't believe in democracy and self rule.  If election don't go their way, they turn to the courts.  If court rulings don't go their way, they turn to the street. 

There's a reason I refer to them as Left Wing Fascists.  If someone has a more descriptive term, I'd be happy to use that instead.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 03, 2017, 08:35:39 PM
I read the link. I have seen nothing from Trump's behavior that he has been influenced by discussions with the Russians.

I have seen evidence of how Clinton reacts to money waved around by foreign governments. Look into the $28 million she got from Morocco for having the EPA try to shut down Mosaic, Morocco's biggest competitor in phosphate mining. Then Lisa Jackson resigned from the EPA under the cloud of her own email scandal to go to work for - wait for it - the Clinton Foundation.

Since Clinton has no influence on the current political climate, your point is nothing but a distraction. If it makes you feel better to see her locked up, go ahead and lobby for that. Meanwhile President Trump + Russia is the topic. Pay attention.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Pulling my Pud in Yorkshire on March 03, 2017, 08:00:27 PM
I'm thinking that General Mattis is going to step in.  Some meeting in the Oval office, in the near future, Mattis is going to lay down the law. 

"Mr.  President, if you would, please give the VP your phone.  That's good.  Mr. Vice President, if you would, never give the President back his phone.  At least for the next 8 years.  The rest of you, fucking half wits, shut the fuck up.  You do not speak publicly unless you have cleared it with  me.  Defy me at your own peril.  Defy me and you may break your neck slipping on some soap in the shitter.  Or fall out of an open window at the Pentagon.  Or drown in the pool at Mar al Lago or whatever you pussies call it.  Or, I might just beat you to death with my bare fucking hands.  There will be no leaks on my watch, nor butt fuckery or donkey shows with the press.

I am glad we had this meeting.  Mr. President, Sir, you may carry on."  *smiles at the Pres and Vice Pres, then, slurps coffee as he eye fucks every last one of the pussies arrayed before him*

I can see this as the opening scene in a future hit HBO series on how the U.S. eliminated the scourges of facist globalism, feminazis with penis envy and a wave of Muslim immigrants that would establish a 14th century subculture in our midst that would be a burden on society for Generations to come.  How about a working title of "Mad Dog Sets the Tone." 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
Since Clinton has no influence on the current political climate, your point is nothing but a distraction. If it makes you feel better to see her locked up, go ahead and lobby for that. Meanwhile President Trump + Russia is the topic. Pay attention.

There's just nothing to pay attention to. You guys just can't stop failing! What is it about you and failure?!  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKt2KjtuLJY

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
Since Clinton has no influence on the current political climate, your point is nothing but a distraction. If it makes you feel better to see her locked up, go ahead and lobby for that. Meanwhile President Trump + Russia is the topic. Pay attention.

My point is that we had a choice between two flawed candidates.

I believe the better choice was made. You don't. I get it.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 03, 2017, 08:46:58 PM
I can see this as the opening scene in a future hit HBO series on how the U.S. eliminated the scourges of facist globalism, feminazis with penis envy and a wave of Muslim immigrants that would establish a 14th century subculture in our midst that would be a burden on society for Generations to come.  How about a working title of "Mad Dog Sets the Tone."

Mad Dog, Mad Dog,

What ya gonna do when he comes for you?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
Since Clinton has no influence on the current political climate, your point is nothing but a distraction. If it makes you feel better to see her locked up, go ahead and lobby for that. Meanwhile President Trump + Russia is the topic. Pay attention.


He's simply pointing out your stunning hypocracy and lack circumspection.  If you weren't such a slave to leftist dogma you might have a thought of your own once in a while.  As it stands you are just another useful idiot in the service of the very same people that are the source of your discontent.

"Some of it, you really want to unlearn."   Keith Richards

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 03, 2017, 08:53:42 PM
My point is that we had a choice between two flawed candidates.

I believe the better choice was made. You don't. I get it.

So you choose to ignore facts that could link Trump money to Russian influence? Hillary was worse so we'll forgive Trump's behavior--even if it's unethical and/or illegal? Lock her up, then go after Trump. If he's clean, fine, if not lock him up too. Corruption shouldn't be tolerated regardless of party affiliation.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
So you choose to ignore facts that could link Trump money to Russian influence? Hillary was worse so we'll forgive Trump's behavior--even if it's unethical and/or illegal? Lock her up, then go after Trump. If he's clean, fine, if not lock him up too. Corruption shouldn't be tolerated regardless of party affiliation.

Produce! Do you not understand what that word means?!  ::)

Kidnostad3

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on March 03, 2017, 08:40:37 PM
These shit-heels tell us they are the tolerant, enlightened, open minded folks among us.  They tell us they are the non-violent, non-judgmental,  inclusive, compassionate ones.  They have no understanding of the world around them, and are easy prey for the America-hating demagogues.  As ignorant fools, they feel justified protesting at peoples houses, boycotting the businesses of ordinary Americans who have different opinions than they on issues, smashing windows on cars that have the ''wrong'' bumper stickers, tearing up our cities and blocking access and traffic during their riots. 

They hate our system of government, our system of free exchange, our history, our Constitution.  They don't believe in democracy and self rule.  If election don't go their way, they turn to the courts.  If court rulings don't go their way, they turn to the street. 

There's a reason I refer to them as Left Fascists.  If someone has a more descriptive term, I'd be happy to use that instead.

I would be inclined to go with "perfect assholes" but then again nothing is perfect so I'll defer to your very accurate description.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
So you choose to ignore facts that could link Trump money to Russian influence? Hillary was worse so we'll forgive Trump's behavior--even if it's unethical and/or illegal? Lock her up, then go after Trump. If he's clean, fine, if not lock him up too. Corruption shouldn't be tolerated regardless of party affiliation.

I agree corruption should not be tolerated. Trump is the only candidate that ran on the promise to do his best to get rid of it by putting restrictions on lobbying after leaving office. The establishment is fighting him tooth and nail in everything he does. The establishment is corrupt.

From my viewpoint, Trump has the chance to be better, and certainly no worse than the establishment administrations we have grown used to over the last 50 years.

I know you don't believe it, but I am betting that in eight years, you will sit back and say "Damn. GravitySucks was spot on!" 

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
So you choose to ignore facts that could link Trump money to Russian influence? Hillary was worse so we'll forgive Trump's behavior--even if it's unethical and/or illegal? Lock her up, then go after Trump. If he's clean, fine, if not lock him up too. Corruption shouldn't be tolerated regardless of party affiliation.

We are choosing to ignore what is nothing more than innuendo and cheap gossip dreamed up by pissed off democrats who in reality couldn't care less about who talked to Russians and are just trying to find a pry point.  This period will go down in history as the time that democrats to include MSM and academia showed their true colors and there will be consequences.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 03, 2017, 09:12:09 PM
I agree corruption should not be tolerated. Trump is the only candidate that ran on the promise to do his best to get rid of it by putting restrictions on lobbying after leaving office. The establishment is fighting him tooth and nail in everything he does. The establishment is corrupt.

From my viewpoint, Trump has the chance to be better, and certainly no worse than the establishment administrations we have grown used to over the last 50 years.

I know you don't believe it, but I am betting that in eight years, you will sit back and say "Damn. GravitySucks was spot on!"

Haha, eight years in your dreams! More like 4-6 months...this summer... ;)

In the meantime, I've noticed Pence is acting more presidential, while the spoiled, petulant child-king keeps busy typing misspelled missives on Twitter.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
Haha, eight years in your dreams! More like 4-6 months...this summer... ;)

In the meantime, I've noticed Pence is acting more presidential, while the spoiled, petulant child-king keeps busy typing misspelled missives on Twitter.

I know it's pathetic but it's really all they got now.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWM



No point in arguing with the other side over this Russia stuff anymore. The gotcha politics is getting a bit old.   The very idea that Sessions would ever collude with the Russians regarding the election is ludicrous and if the other side can't see it, then they are stupid.  I don't think they are though.  They want to bring down anyone they can in the Trump administration if they can't bring down Trump himself.  Well, I've got news.  They won't succeed. Our side is fighting back.  And a clue to the other side, you're not winning anybody over.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
Haha, eight years in your dreams! More like 4-6 months...this summer... ;)

In the meantime, I've noticed Pence is acting more presidential, while the spoiled, petulant child-king keeps busy typing misspelled missives on Twitter.

Uhura, you have a track record of being wrong in your posts about Trump since he announced that he was running for President.  With your track record for bad predictions and posting the lamest shit available why should anyone take your comments seriously.  You have seen how easily they are batted down and nothing you assert proves valid.  This is also true of your dispicable dyke friend who is an identity thief and likes to make anonymous phone calls to screech obscenities..  But this is just another tactic in the lefts playbook that you no doubt see as fair. 

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
Haha, eight years in your dreams! More like 4-6 months...this summer... ;)

In the meantime, I've noticed Pence is acting more presidential, while the spoiled, petulant child-king keeps busy typing misspelled missives on Twitter.
Though I don't want it because, so far, so much winning but it would be even more fun if, as you, the DNC, and Leftists (and some estalblishment or "Christian Conservatives" want) got Trump out by whatever method or if he just 'screw this' and quit. I imagine years of fun with Pence as President and Republicans controlling Congress? Ha! Abortion? Immigration? Homosexual rights? Regulations?  Tax cuts?  The environment? Etc. The Left and DNC and Hollywood would be even MORE in melt-down mode. Be careful what you wish for. Trump is pretty liberal and soft on some issues. But a President Pence is what you want? Classic.


Quote from: albrecht on March 03, 2017, 10:00:26 PM
Though I don't want it because, so far, so much winning but it would be even more fun if, as you, the DNC, and Leftists (and some estalblishment or "Christian Conservatives" want) got Trump out by whatever method or if he just 'screw this' and quit. I imagine years of fun with Pence as President and Republicans controlling Congress? Ha! Abortion? Immigration? Homosexual rights? Regulations?  Tax cuts?  The environment? Etc. The Left and DNC and Hollywood would be even MORE in melt-down mode. Be careful what you wish for. Trump is pretty liberal and soft on some issues. But a President Pence is what you want? Classic.

I know.  They better be careful what they wish for.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 03, 2017, 10:02:10 PM
I know.  They better be careful what they wish for.

Don't try to stop them! They just keep walking into landmine after landmine.  ;D

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 03, 2017, 10:02:10 PM
I know.  They better be careful what they wish for.
And what adds so much to fun is that the DNC and Billary WANTED Trump because they thought easier to beat. This was discussed in the leaked emails where they also discussed conspiring against Bernie. Classic!

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 03, 2017, 09:59:06 PM
No point in arguing with the other side over this Russia stuff anymore. The gotcha politics is getting a bit old.   The very idea that Sessions would ever collude with the Russians regarding the election is ludicrous and if the other side can't see it, then they are stupid.  I don't think they are though.  They want to bring down anyone they can in the Trump administration if they can't bring down Trump himself.  Well, I've got news.  They won't succeed. Our side is fighting back.  And a clue to the other side, you're not winning anybody over.

Whether or not I voted for Trump I would expect transparency regarding possible financial influences between his administration and Russia. Only gullible cultists would take him at his word.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
Whether or not I voted for Trump I would expect transparency regarding possible financial influences between his administration and Russia. Only gullible cultists would take him at his word.

You couldn't vote. You're Canadian. Talk about gullible cultists!  ;D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
Whether or not I voted for Trump I would expect transparency regarding possible financial influences between his administration and Russia. Only gullible cultists would take him at his word.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/

Did you demand such transparancy with the dirty dealings of Clinton or Obama when over an open mic he gave the Russian ambassador a message to convey to Putin to the effect that he would be more flexible afters his reelection.  How do you people live with your hypocracy.  Oh, I know it's situational ethics.  You stand for nothing.

Meister_000

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on March 03, 2017, 08:14:22 PM
Squabbles over chit chats with Russian diplomats by both parties in D.C. are merely a distraction. But follow Trump money (inextricably tied to influence), and it leads back to Russia.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/who-is-felix-sater/

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