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Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 04, 2017, 06:02:14 PM
So it can't have been Obama who put any tap on Trump Tower as Trump alleges?  ::)

Um, you know presidents don't actually install taps themselves right?  And the Justice Department is part of the Executive Branch of the government, reporting to the president.

Obama's two Attorney Generals - heads of the Justice Dept - were the sleazy Eric Holder, then ''Lackey Loretta'' Lynch.

So yes, it would have been Obama making the call on that.

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 04, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Why, thank you, PB. Sweet of you.

I'm very disappointed in not receiving a poem from you this morning, celebrating my contributions here

And where's my nasty, threatening phone call?

By the way, what are you identifying as today?

Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 04, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
The...horror...the...horror :o
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/06/britain-s-horrific-vip-pedophile-cover-up.html

MD, you realize of course,  this (your daily and repeated bludgeoning of Pud with anything to do child molestation crap) is beyond Bad Sportsmanship let alone really distastful. This is your Idea of Making America Great (dreadfully bad sport? If you TRULY were "outraged" about the child victims you would and could not *make light of it* in such a manner. STOP IT already. Remove this item from your casual-use daily repertoire. It's not funny, not cute, not true (to link it to Pud in any way) not acceptable, certainly not creative. Find something else, some other default knee-jerk slur to use.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 04, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
MD, you realize of course,  this (your daily and repeated bludgeoning of Pud with anything to do child molestation crap) is beyond Bad Sportsmanship let alone really distastful. This is your Idea of Making America Great (dreadfully bad sport? If you TRULY were "outraged" about the child victims you would and could not *make light of it* in such a manner. STOP IT already. Remove this item from your casual-use daily repertoire. It's not funny, not cute, not true (to link it to Pud in any way) not acceptable, certainly not creative. Find something other default knee-jerk slur to use.

LOL! You and he literally post bullshit all day long here but I should feel shame?! You're fucking hilarious! I wish I could be there to see the look on your face when this all blows up in it.  ;D

Oh, and also FUCK YOU!  >:(

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on March 04, 2017, 06:22:16 PM
Um, you know presidents don't actually install taps themselves right?  And the Justice Department is part of the Executive Branch of the government, reporting to the president.

Obama's two Attorney Generals - heads of the Justice Dept - were the sleazy Eric Holder, then ''Lackey Loretta'' Lynch.

So yes, it would have been Obama making the call on that.

Actually no it wouldn't.


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If nothing else, Trump’s tweets show he doesn’t understand how the FISA system works. If he did, he may have limited himself to tweeting about Arnold Schwartzenegger quitting The Apprentice this morning.

“While the order would have been requested by some part of the executive branch, Obama can’t order anything. Nor can Trump,” says former NSA lawyer April Doss, who stresses that her comments are based only on public information. “The order has to come from the court, and the court operates independently.”

FISA court judges serve seven-year appointments, so the court’s composition doesn’t ebb and flow with the political tides. What’s more, specific laws adopted in the wake of Watergate prevent the very activity Trump accuses Obama of.

“You can’t tap the phones of a political candidate for political purposes,” says Doss.

What you could tap them for? Acting as a foreign power, or as an agent of a foreign power. In other words, spying against US interests with both knowledge and intent.

Clearing that bar is difficult, by design. FISA warrants don’t allow for broad wiretaps of, say, every call going in and out of a specific office in a 58-story Manhattan skyscraper. Federal authorities must demonstrate not just probable cause, but that a given phone line serves primarily to undermine US interests. It’s difficult, for instance, to obtain a warrant to wiretap a shared office, for fear of picking up innocent third-party conversations.

“I have high confidence that a FISA court judge would not have authorized any warrant unless it met all the requirements under the statute,” says Doss.

www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-wiretap-trump-tower-not-obama-worry/amp/


Meister_000

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on March 04, 2017, 06:28:38 PM
And where's my nasty, threatening phone call?

By the way, what are you identifying as today?


And you too, stop this bullshit.




Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 04, 2017, 06:36:41 PM
Actually no it wouldn't.

“While the order would have been requested by some part of the executive branch, Obama can’t order anything. Nor can Trump,” says former NSA lawyer April Doss, who stresses that her comments are based only on public information. “The order has to come from the court, and the court operates independently.”...

“You can’t tap the phones of a political candidate for political purposes,” says Doss.

First, who do you think makes the request?  (It's the Justice Dept.)

Second, when did the law ever stop Obama before?  You think he would draw the line at tapping Trump's phone during a campaign?  This is the sort of sleaze that is actually in his area of expertise (corrupt Chicago Daley Political Machine.  Hello?).

Just ask the guy he ran against in his Senate campaign.


GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on March 04, 2017, 06:36:41 PM
Actually no it wouldn't.


www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-wiretap-trump-tower-not-obama-worry/amp/

Parsing words... the court has to issue the order, but the DoJ has to draft the court order.

You still have never answered my question. Which laws preclude a US citizen from talking to foreign diplomats from countries we are not at war with?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 04, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
Parsing words... the court has to issue the order, but the DoJ has to draft the court order.

You still have never answered my question. Which laws preclude a US citizen from talking to foreign diplomats from countries we are not at war with?

Oh, any day now...really! He promised!  ;D



Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 04, 2017, 06:45:30 PM

Drop dead moron.

Look, you don't have a penis. You never had a penis.  You'll never have a penis.  Get over it--you are an abhorrent aberration despite what your little circle of friends believe.  Any butch I have ever seen was ass ugly and had a personality to match.


Quote from: GravitySucks on March 04, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
... You still have never answered my question. Which laws preclude a US citizen from talking to foreign diplomats from countries we are not at war with?

It's very lonely at foreign embassies in Washington DC.  Especially at the Russian one. 

In an outrageous and unsuccessful smear campaign, Hilary was once accused of speaking to them as Secretary of State - proposing they donate hundreds of millions to her charitable foundation in exchange for 20% of our uranium stockpile.  That was of course a lie, an attempt to blemish her otherwise pristine reputation.

No one spoke to them again until the Trump people asked for their involvement in stealing the election - with the promise of bilking the country and splitting the proceeds later.

All those videos and photos of various Demokrat politicians meeting with various Russian ambassadors and other officials are forgeries, cleverly created and planted jointly by Vladimir Putin and Trump Industries.

The story continues.  Stay tuned.

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 04, 2017, 06:58:50 PM
Look, you don't have a penis. You never had a penis.  You'll never have a penis.  Get over it--you are an abhorrent aberration despite what your little circle of friends believe.  Any butch I have ever seen was ass ugly and had a personality to match.

pate

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
As promised I am attaching the recording of the harassing voicemail I received from a BelGaber.  I have had an expert analyze it and he tells me that it is definitely a woman and that we have an excellent voice signature.  I also have copies of some of the emails she sent to a number of commercial activities posing as me.  I was contacted by phone by more than a dozen of those commercial activities ranging from moving companies to car dealerships.  I even got a call from the Mormon Church in response to an email she sent on my behalf.

I know of no other BelGab poster with whom I have had an antagonistic relationships to any degree approaching that which I have had with Meister_000 and certainly not a woman.   Knowing the raging foul mouthed screeds she posts here on BelGab I can only conclude that she or one of her LGBT friends made the call and is responsible for stealing my identify which is a crime.  Of course Meister is quick to call other's who see through her shit sick and vile but how twisted and mean spirited does one have to be to rationalize this kind of thing. Who else would it be?   I'll let you all be the judge and, please, if you can think of any other BelGabber that you think is equally emotionally fucked up and might be responsible let me know by message.

This kind of identify theft for malicious purposes is a crime and there are particularly harsh penalties in Florida when victims are over the age of 65. My lawyer has referred me to another attorney who specializes in such cases and he assures me that the assholes involved in this can be tracked and prosecuted.

Finally something interesting in this thread!

#MAPA

JesusJuice

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
As promised I am attaching the recording of the harassing voicemail I received from a BelGaber.  I have had an expert analyze it and he tells me that it is definitely a woman and that we have an excellent voice signature.  I also have copies of some of the emails she sent to a number of commercial activities posing as me.  I was contacted by phone by more than a dozen of those commercial activities ranging from moving companies to car dealerships.  I even got a call from the Mormon Church in response to an email she sent on my behalf.

I know of no other BelGab poster with whom I have had an antagonistic relationships to any degree approaching that which I have had with Meister_000 and certainly not a woman.   Knowing the raging foul mouthed screeds she posts here on BelGab I can only conclude that she or one of her LGBT friends made the call and is responsible for stealing my identify which is a crime.  Of course Meister is quick to call other's who see through her shit sick and vile but how twisted and mean spirited does one have to be to rationalize this kind of thing. Who else would it be?   I'll let you all be the judge and, please, if you can think of any other BelGabber that you think is equally emotionally fucked up and might be responsible let me know by message.

This kind of identify theft for malicious purposes is a crime and there are particularly harsh penalties in Florida when victims are over the age of 65. My lawyer has referred me to another attorney who specializes in such cases and he assures me that the assholes involved in this can be tracked and prosecuted.


This is good stuff. I usually skip over several pages of this thread and I missed this. I wouldn't have seen it if not for pate.

mikuthing01

Quote from: JesusJuice💯👌👏 on March 04, 2017, 08:18:38 PM

This is good stuff. I usually skip over several pages of this thread and I missed this. I wouldn't have seen it if not for pate.

I know rite? I never thought Meister_000 would be a haggard old lesbian with a 12" clit



WOTR

I am really starting to wonder what information Obama had that he share with Trump that caused him to appear upset?  Had Trump known that his lines were tapped from the beginning? 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on March 04, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
I am really starting to wonder what information Obama had that he share with Trump that caused him to appear upset?  Had Trump known that his lines were tapped from the beginning? 


No, man. Before they let the reporters in Barry showed him some naked pics of his tranny wife, Michael. Trump was horrified. He'd heard the stories but even he didn't think it was true.  :D

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 03, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
As promised I am attaching the recording of the harassing voicemail I received from a BelGaber.  I have had an expert analyze it and he tells me that it is definitely a woman and that we have an excellent voice signature.  I also have copies of some of the emails she sent to a number of commercial activities posing as me.  I was contacted by phone by more than a dozen of those commercial activities ranging from moving companies to car dealerships.  I even got a call from the Mormon Church in response to an email she sent on my behalf.

I know of no other BelGab poster with whom I have had an antagonistic relationships to any degree approaching that which I have had with Meister_000 and certainly not a woman.   Knowing the raging foul mouthed screeds she posts here on BelGab I can only conclude that she or one of her LGBT friends made the call and is responsible for stealing my identify which is a crime.  Of course Meister is quick to call other's who see through her shit sick and vile but how twisted and mean spirited does one have to be to rationalize this kind of thing. Who else would it be?   I'll let you all be the judge and, please, if you can think of any other BelGabber that you think is equally emotionally fucked up and might be responsible let me know by message.

This kind of identify theft for malicious purposes is a crime and there are particularly harsh penalties in Florida when victims are over the age of 65. My lawyer has referred me to another attorney who specializes in such cases and he assures me that the assholes involved in this can be tracked and prosecuted.

For the public record Kidnostad3; regarding your repeated pubic accusations posted at Bellgab, beginning early March 2017, directed at and naming me, Meister_000, as being the perpetrator of; I flatly and categorically deny any involvement or participation whatsoever (that means of _any_ possible kind) in the harassment or pranks you claim to be a recipient of. (signed) Meister_000 ~ March 4rd, 2017

If you had a brain in your head, it might occure to you that having you or anything about you "on my mind" _ever_ is the very last thing I woud willfully subject myself to. Pulling the kind of stunt you have repeated accused me of would require just that of me and on a ongoing basis. So, aside from being pure evil, you a complete idiot.

And please take you twisted, sick, love-life concerns and your diary of them elsewhere.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 04, 2017, 08:52:31 PM


For the public record Kidnostad3; regarding your repeated pubic accusations posted at Bellgab, beginning early March 2017, directed at and naming me, Meister_000, as being the perpetrator of; I flatly and categorically deny any involvement or participation whatsoever (that means of _any_ possible kind) in the harassment or pranks you claim to be a recipient of. (signed) Meister_000 ~ March 4rd, 2017


If you had a brain in your head, it might occure to you that having you or anything about you "on my mind" _ever_ is the very last thing I woud willfully subject myself to. Pulling the kind of stunt you have repeated accused me of would require just that of me and on a ongoing basis. So, aside from being pure evil, you a complete idiot.


And please take you twisted, sick, love-life concerns and your diary of them elsewhere.

Typical Dem operative deflection.  ::)

Kidnostad3

Quote from: mikuthing01🇯🇵🗾🗼🎋🌸🐙🐲🐼 on March 04, 2017, 08:23:27 PM
I know rite? I never thought Meister_000 would be a haggard old lesbian with a 12" clit



I seem to recall that she claimed to have worked in the school system of some city or county in the Bay Area for 39 years.  (Yeah, I know, it's really scary to contemplate her being around kids for all those years.)  Does anyone recall where she said she worked?

JesusJuice

Quote from: Meister_000 on March 04, 2017, 08:52:31 PM
For the public record Kidnostad3; regarding your repeated pubic accusations posted at Bellgab, beginning early March 2017, directed at and naming me, Meister_000, as being the perpetrator of; I flatly and categorically deny any involvement or participation whatsoever (that means of _any_ possible kind) in the harassment or pranks you claim to be a recipient of. (signed) Meister_000 ~ March 4rd, 2017

If you had a brain in your head, it might occure to you that having you or anything about you "on my mind" _ever_ is the very last thing I woud willfully subject myself to. Pulling the kind of stunt you have repeated accused me of would require just that of me and on a ongoing basis. So, aside from being pure evil, you a complete idiot.

And please take you twisted, sick, love-life concerns and your diary of them elsewhere.


This pretty much confirms that it was her that made that rude call. She tried to throw us off by claiming to be an elderly Jewish man. This person has come to bellgab to tell lies and deceive us.

Quote from: WOTR on March 04, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
I am really starting to wonder what information Obama had that he share with Trump that caused him to appear upset?...

He does love to talk about himself, Trump probably couldn't wait to leave.

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