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Started by MV/Liberace!, January 23, 2020, 09:29:38 PM


Catsmile

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on April 03, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
Okay, let’s try this again.

A.  All that you say is true under normal circumstances and I have no problem with that.  I’ve been to B school and spent 20 years in the private sector post Navy and I really do understand Keynesian economics, you know, the supply and demand curve and all that. 

B.  Trump declared a national emergency on March 17.   Laws against profiteering, hoarding, etc. have been in effect since that date.  Trump has now reluctantly invoked the Defense Production Security Act mainly because of 3-Ms behavior.  He was rightfully reluctant because while it strengthens the federal government’s hand in enforcing necessary measures to secure and manage the supply of essential/strategic commodities during a national emergency it has obvious drawbacks via-a-vis laissez-faire economics.  It should not remain in force a second longer than the emergency demands.

C.  Once again, it stopped being okay for business as usual when the national emergency was declared and it has nothing to do with who the material is being sold to.


So... did they actually break the law? Not just your or that of an overpaid talking heads opinion of said law being broken. Once again, no charges, or proof offered of profiteering, hoarding, etc., just a weak appeal from authority. Okay, thatz not proof, no matter how many times you type it. Keep carrying the water, lest ye be judged a communist, comrade.

Now, if they actually did break any laws, hang 'em high. I'm not married to any businesses, governments, monetary systems, they ain't even a booty call.

WOTR

Quote from: Catsmile on April 03, 2020, 10:38:50 PM
#WhyDoYouHateCapitalism?
#ThereforeCOMMIECOMMIECOMMIE!

"It is perhaps well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
      - Henry Ford



Who said anything about banning or taxing anything? Slow down just a little. First, people have to understand the problem, before they can even begin to identify solutions. Otherwise people will continue to carry water for their team of choice, vacillating as their emotions dictate. Offering solutions to those unable or unwilling to see or understand, is simply tilting at windmills. I'm no oracle, just a messenger.

Shit, I don't even have a brandâ,,¢, much less merchandise to offer as solutions. Therefore, a bad capitalist. Therefore, commie commie commie! I enjoy observing the peanut gallery too.
#YouCanLeadAHorseToWater,ButYouCan'tMakeItDrink
I'm just trying to remember what else happened in the early 70's that might have contributed to your graph... Ah, the dollar was decoupled from gold in late '71. That was good of them to remove any restraints on the banksters and others who knew how to game the system.

I had to look up the Nixon quote. It is kind of laughable in today's economy...

"If you want to buy a foreign car or take a trip abroad, market conditions may cause your dollar to buy slightly less. But if you are among the overwhelming majority of Americans who buy American-made products in America, your dollar will be worth just as much tomorrow as it is today.

The effect of this action, in other words, will be to stabilize the dollar."

Some might call it stability. Others might use the term inflationary... It's good to know that I can still buy a decent house for $25,000 like I could in '73. Hell of a job they did making sure that my dollar will buy just as it did yesterday. (Yes, I realize that there was inflation prior to the early '70s as well. But it's funny how the line seems to take off around the same time as your chart shows a marked change.)

Taxation through inflation is a very real thing (it's funny that people think that they are only taxed at the rate that the government physically takes their cash when income taxes are due...)


WOTR

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on April 03, 2020, 07:32:45 AM
I'm sorry sir but those are the figures.  You Nye County bastards are still going to the grocery store too much.  Only down 15%.  Big Brother wants that at -45% at least.
Do better!

I just read that Lethbridge, Alberta has come up with a solution. To be fair- they are a smaller city (100,000 people.) Their population has a fair number of younger students as well as immigrant workers (and a good sized population of people addicted to drugs.)

Anyhow, as of April8th, you will need a reservation to ride the bus. You will have to make your reservation the day before, and they are only allowed if you are going to work, to the grocery store or to the pharmacy. If your bus has more than 15 people on it, you cannot book your trip.

I never thought I would live to see the day that reservations were required for public transit.  :o

*Just in case somebody does not believe me... It is not April 1st, and this is the official announcement on the city's website. https://www.lethbridge.ca/living-here/getting-around/Transit/Pages/Ride-by-Reservation-DuringCOVID-19.aspx

So why line these babies up shoulder to shoulder on a beach?  Some where out there an A-10 driver is throwing major wood.

https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/1246328702348165121



Of course NYC sounds grim as well on the FDNY scanner stream:

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/9358/web

Lots of "Use precautions.  Fever cough incident" and several "DOA's"

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Catsmile on April 04, 2020, 12:03:37 AM
So... did they actually break the law? Not just your or that of an overpaid talking heads opinion of said law being broken. Once again, no charges, or proof offered of profiteering, hoarding, etc., just a weak appeal from authority. Okay, thatz not proof, no matter how many times you type it. Keep carrying the water, lest ye be judged a communist, comrade.

Now, if they actually did break any laws, hang 'em high. I'm not married to any businesses, governments, monetary systems, they ain't even a booty call.

There is always the presumption of innocence and whether 3-M broke the law remains to be determined by the DOJ.    It sure’n shit looks like it did to me.  In any event, it has opened itself up to civil suits.  Here’s the law:

H.R.5582 - National Emergency Anti-Profiteering Act of 1990

“The National Emergency Anti-Profiteering Act of 1990 prohibits profiteering with respect to essential commodities following a presidential declaration of a national economic emergency and provides for criminal penalties and civil remedies for such profiteering (including disgorgement of all profits earned)."


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on April 04, 2020, 07:41:56 AM
Here’s an optimistic view.

https://youtu.be/HAn0bK5O3ME

What is it with you and globalists?! ::)

The guy’s a complete turd who wanted Hillary to be president; wants you to be automated out of a job and wants a socialist world government where he is part of the ruling class. Seriously, give your head a good shake! ::) ::)


Asuka Langley

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 03, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
I dunno, man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Qpjs_CF6I

You have to go back about 50 years to find a decent car GM made. GM today is bottom of the barrel garbage with no quality control, Americans suck at building cars.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Asuka Langley on April 04, 2020, 08:31:27 AM
You have to go back about 50 years to find a decent car GM made. GM today is bottom of the barrel garbage with no quality control, Americans suck at building cars.

Sad but true.




The Coral Princess was allow to dock in Miami today with two dead and a bunch sick.  So they come of the list in the article below - which crazily,  list seven more ships with passengers aboard still tooling around out there.


https://www.newsweek.com/eight-cruise-ships-still-carrying-passengers-sea-coronavirus-cases-grow-around-world-1496034

pate

Oh, God.  The world has broken the 1mil/50k cases/deaths barrier!  We are doomed!

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/covid-19

I think in-accuweather's CornHoleeEEbola map is safe and not one that hacks your computer, if I am wrong then my computer is now infected with the virii as well.

What is the estimated world population right now?  7.6billion or so, according to https://www.census.gov/popclock/.

Going to do some number crunching really quick and see what is going on.

1million/7.5billion=1.33333e-4 (or 0.00013 which expressed as a % is 0.0000013% I believe?) So if four months in this GLOBAL SUPER CEREAL PANDEMIC has a THIRTEEN THILLIONTH OF A PERCENT infection rate, that is SUPER CEREAL!!!!

Let me see on the death rate if you are confirmed to be infected, 60k/1.1mil=0.054545454, or roughly 5.5% death rate.  That sounds bad, but I still wonder how many folks are walking around with a light sniffle to no symptoms?  If that number is 10x confirmed cases then the death rate drops to 0.55%, 100x the number 0.055% and so on for the death rate.

Using the 10x, 100x deal on the "actual" infection rate changes the 0.0000013% @ 1mil to:

10mil=0.000013% global infected
100mil=0.00013% global infected

Either I am doing the math incorrectly, or this is pretty stupid for 4-5 months into a "global kill-shot" virus.  How do those number compare to common flu cases, infected/death rates globally?

I am such a heathen unbeliever on this one, completely surprised they haven't 5G activated my somnolent virii to silence me...

-p

Dr. MD MD

I tried to go grocery shopping today. We’re officially living in the Soviet Union now. :(

analog kid

Quote from: pate on April 04, 2020, 09:49:45 AM
Either I am doing the math incorrectly, or this is pretty stupid for 4-5 months into a "global kill-shot" virus.  How do those number compare to common flu cases, infected/death rates globally?

There's an entire realm of the right, that goes all the way up to the POTUS, that are denying they ever made your argument, and are in fact now trying to pin this belief on left-wing media.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 04, 2020, 09:59:27 AM
There's an entire realm of the right, that goes all the way up to the POTUS, that are denying they ever made your argument, and are in fact now trying to pin this belief on left-wing media.

Yeah, let’s just ignore China. Orange man bad! I wish the virus was specific to idiots like you. That’s how I would’ve engineered it anyway but I’m not a CCP member.

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 04, 2020, 10:05:50 AM
Yeah, let’s just ignore China. Orange man bad! I wish the virus was specific to idiots like you. That’s how I would’ve engineered it anyway but I’m not a CCP member.

Not sure how China applies in context, and Orange fan sad, but good luck in your alternate reality.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 04, 2020, 10:14:36 AM
Not sure how China applies in context, and Orange fan sad, but good luck in your alternate reality.

The virus started there. They lied and had people offed to cover this up but you keep on pimping for them, faggot. You’re a pathetic, boot-licking CCP toad.

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 04, 2020, 10:17:36 AM
The virus started there. They lied and had people offed to cover this up but you keep on pimping for them, faggot. You’re a pathetic, boot-licking CCP toad.

lol wut?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 04, 2020, 10:19:48 AM
lol wut?

Exactly. You have no ability to think things through. Wut, indeed, commie faggot. ::) ::)

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 04, 2020, 10:21:10 AM
Exactly. You have no ability to think things through. Wut, indeed, commie faggot. ::) ::)

the irony.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 04, 2020, 10:23:09 AM
the irony.

I doubt you even understand that word. That’s how stupid you are, commie faggot. You’re obviously in your glory with all this. The left just LOVES bad times. You got everything you wanted: a complete shutdown of industry and most of society; people lining up for groceries like they did in the Soviet Union while your beloved dictator (Xi) threatens the rest of the world. Kudos, faggot!

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 04, 2020, 10:27:19 AM
I doubt you even understand that word. That’s how stupid you are, commie faggot. You’re obviously in your glory with all this. The left just LOVES bad times. You got everything you wanted: a complete shutdown of industry and most of society; people lining up for groceries like they did in the Soviet Union while your beloved dictator (Xi) threatens the rest of the world. Kudos, faggot!

Might I suggest a Prozac?

paladin1991

Quote from: Gunner65 on April 03, 2020, 05:56:23 PM
And Henry Kissinger had a release today: 

Perhaps we can waste some time looking at that!  https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coronavirus-pandemic-will-forever-alter-the-world-order-11585953005

How is Kissinger still alive?  What vaccines did he receive?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 04, 2020, 10:28:23 AM
Might I suggest a Prozac?

Sure! Shove it up your ass, you complete waste of space!!


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