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WOTR

Quote from: whoozit on April 06, 2020, 02:31:24 PM
Yup.  I’ll be disappointed if it can’t happen.  I even found a sixth to fill up the group last week.
Rumour has it that Aldous found an eigth last week...  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 04:02:31 PM
Rumour has it that Aldous found an eigth last week...  ;)

An eighth of a kilo maybe.

GravitySucks

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 04:02:31 PM
Rumour has it that Aldous found an eigth last week...  ;)

To be fair, California contributes slightly more than an eighth of our GDP.



WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 06, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMPB3yqrrI

China is not trying to split the EU. They are doing it to themselves by choosing to turn to China.

As for buying supplies from China- What choice is there? This should serve as a wake up call to nations that they need to make at least some of their own crap. Instead it will cause countries to grovel to China.

The countries in the EU are too busy trying to supply themselves to be worried about much else. Kind of like the US not selling masks to Canada. (I feel like I'm one of the few Canadians saying that this is as it should be. Each country needs to ensure their own supplies before selling elsewhere. Canada needs to bring some industry home- not just rely on the US and China for supplies...)

Instead I'm sure that we will just buy from China the same as the countries in the EU. I don't think it is China orchestrating it- we are all desperate and acting stupidly against our own best interests in the long term.


paladin1991

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
China is not trying to split the EU. They are doing it to themselves by choosing to turn to China.

As for buying supplies from China- What choice is there? This should serve as a wake up call to nations that they need to make at least some of their own crap. Instead it will cause countries to grovel to China.

The countries in the EU are too busy trying to supply themselves to be worried about much else. Kind of like the US not selling masks to Canada. (I feel like I'm one of the few Canadians saying that this is as it should be. Each country needs to ensure their own supplies before selling elsewhere. Canada needs to bring some industry home- not just rely on the US and China for supplies...)

Instead I'm sure that we will just buy from China the same as the countries in the EU. I don't think it is China orchestrating it- we are all desperate and acting stupidly against our own best interests in the long term.

All countries should look to establishing a strategic reserve in everything.  Looks like only little Finland is ready for shit to go sideways. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
China is not trying to split the EU. They are doing it to themselves by choosing to turn to China.

As for buying supplies from China- What choice is there? This should serve as a wake up call to nations that they need to make at least some of their own crap. Instead it will cause countries to grovel to China.

The countries in the EU are too busy trying to supply themselves to be worried about much else. Kind of like the US not selling masks to Canada. (I feel like I'm one of the few Canadians saying that this is as it should be. Each country needs to ensure their own supplies before selling elsewhere. Canada needs to bring some industry home- not just rely on the US and China for supplies...)

Instead I'm sure that we will just buy from China the same as the countries in the EU. I don't think it is China orchestrating it- we are all desperate and acting stupidly against our own best interests in the long term.

Apparently, the mask thing was worked out between you, us and 3M and now you are getting the masks...so don't freak out and start sing the Internationale already. ;)

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
China is not trying to split the EU. They are doing it to themselves by choosing to turn to China.

As for buying supplies from China- What choice is there? This should serve as a wake up call to nations that they need to make at least some of their own crap. Instead it will cause countries to grovel to China.

The countries in the EU are too busy trying to supply themselves to be worried about much else. Kind of like the US not selling masks to Canada. (I feel like I'm one of the few Canadians saying that this is as it should be. Each country needs to ensure their own supplies before selling elsewhere. Canada needs to bring some industry home- not just rely on the US and China for supplies...)

Instead I'm sure that we will just buy from China the same as the countries in the EU. I don't think it is China orchestrating it- we are all desperate and acting stupidly against our own best interests in the long term.

I believe China gets lots of raw materials from Africa.  So they may not be making much of anything if the virus takes off in South Africa and the Congo.

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 02:46:16 AM
I spent awhile combing a few sources. Is there anybody who does not think that the numbers that were being reported in March were extremely low? Keep in mind that for every cruise ship with a COVID case, at least one of their passengers would have to have the virus when they boarded. At least 1 person out of the roughly 5000 (including crew) on board each ship had to have had the virus. Yes, there were some ships that did not have COVID- but a surprising number did (considering how few cases were supposed to be in the world at that point.)

Yes, this took way too long.

It starts with the Diamond Princess. By February 1st they have their first COVID case. Canada has a total of three cases reported at that time. Interestingly, by the time it is all over, almost 700 passengers on that ship of 3600 had COVID. Maybe a study in how fast it moves...

February 20th. The Azmara had at least one COVID case on board when it was cruising in the middle east.
Late February. The grand princess reported 12 infected passengers And then it sailed again. 

Mid February- the World Dream had a few dozen cases of COVID. However, it was sailing from China with passengers from Wuhan.
February 25th. The Voyager of the Seas has one passenger test positive. Then ti sails again.
March 1st. A two year old tested positive aboard the Norwegian Bliss.
March 6th- Asara (a river cruiser on the nile), 12 crew members tested positive for COVID-19. 33 people on that ship tested positive. The CDC in the US traces 60 cases to nile cruises.
March 7th. The Voyager of the seas. Another positive test. 39 more cases later attributed to that ship.
Early March. The MSC Meraviglia had at least one passenger test positive for COVID.
March 9th, the Grand princess (yes, a repeat ship on this list), with 2600 people on board came back with 21 cases of COVID. Interestingly, there would be a total of 103 cases linked to this cruise through Canada and the US.
March 13th- The Majesty of the Sea. Two people test positive after cruising.
March 15th. One person tests positive for COVID.
Mid-March. The Carnival Valor had a passenger who tested positive for COVID when he got off the ship.
March 17th. The MS Braemer had 28 passengers and 27 crew showing symptoms (at that point, only 5 had tested positive. No follow up on the others.)
March 18th. The ovations has 13 of the passengers who disembarked later test positive.
March 18th- The Carnival Imagination. One passenger tests positive when arriving home.
March 19th- The Ruby Princess. I saved the explanation for below. But around 800 sick with 7 deaths attributed to the ship.
March 19th. The Costa Magica has two test positive for COVID.
March 20th. The Solstice has one Passenger test positive.
March 21st, The Costa Luminosa had 30 passengers test positive. (some reference to “sick crew” as well- but I can't track down those numbers easily.)
March 21- MSC Opera has 7 crew test positive for COVID.
March 24th Costa Victoria passenger tested positive for COVID.
March 26th- the first case of COVID reported on the Pullmantur Horizon. 250 crew on board. By april 4th it is 150 cases. Only Crew as they parked the ship..
March 26th. The Costa Favalosa has 6 people test positive for COVID.
March 27th. The Artania has 41 people test positive.
March 27th the Zaandam was carrying four passengers who had died of COVID and 128 additional who were sick. Quite the body count for a ship that carries less than 1500 passengers...
March 28th- Oasis of the Seas  has 14 crew members test positive for COVID
March 28th- Celebrity Apex has 28 crew members confirmed with cases of COVID.
March 29th- Celebrity Infinity has two crew members with COVID.
March 31st. Crew member dies aboard the Marella Dream
April 1st. One passenger and one crew aboard the Eclipse test positive for COVID.
The Coral Princess is just pulling into Miami with at least two dead on board and a bunch of sick passengers...



Back to the Ruby Princess... Since disembarkment of 2700 passengers from the Ruby Princess on March 19th, 662 of it's passengers have now tested positive (with 7 dead.) Presumably, being as they disembarked without issue, they each flew home and spread it around a little. The best part about this? The Ruby Princess had 158 passengers from a previous cruise test positive for COVID. They sailed anyhow as the March 19th route was seen as “low risk.” So, this one ship ended up with at least two COVID cruises and over 800 cases and 7 dead between them...
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aldousburbank

A recession is when your neighbor loses their job. A depression is when you lose yours.
A pandemic is when your neighbor dies from corona. A plague is when you do.
Still superior to a Clinton presidency.
Where tf is Jackstar? Welfare check time?

albrecht

Quote from: paladin1991 on April 06, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
All countries should look to establishing a strategic reserve in everything.  Looks like only little Finland is ready for shit to go sideways.
The FInns are a tough bunch and been there before. They fought the commies, internal and the the commies of the USSR.
 
https://www.simohayha.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNev5NlJLjk





Dr. MD MD

Quote from: aldousburbank on April 06, 2020, 05:14:09 PM
A recession is when your neighbor loses their job. A depression is when you lose yours.
A pandemic is when your neighbor dies from corona. A plague is when you do.
Still superior to a Clinton presidency.
Where tf is Jackstar? Welfare check time?

Indeed. Please check in, Mike.

Former major leaguer Jim Edmonds has Corona-Chan.  Seems like his ex-wife isn't too sympathetic.  Makes me glad I don't have an ex-wife. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kUyKmHVhd/?utm_source=ig_embed

Corona Kitty

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on April 06, 2020, 06:06:38 PM
Former major leaguer Jim Edmonds has Corona-Chan.  Seems like his ex-wife isn't too sympathetic.  Makes me glad I don't have an ex-wife. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-kUyKmHVhd/?utm_source=ig_embed

It sounds like she's from Louisiana.

Quote from: Corona Kitty on April 06, 2020, 06:13:25 PM
It sounds like she's from Louisiana.

I think she was lip syncing from one of Marge Simpons sisters.   :P

ItsOver

Quote from: paladin1991 on April 06, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
All countries should look to establishing a strategic reserve in everything.  Looks like only little Finland is ready for shit to go sideways.
I use a VPN for hooking into the internet.  It usually goes with a location routed somewhere in the US.  For the past week, it's preferred Finland.  It's been interesting to watch websites think I'm in Finland and see ads in Finnish. 

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 06, 2020, 02:25:57 PM


The above “quote” is total bullshit as indicated in the “Misattribution” portion of the below article.  Do your homework.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on April 06, 2020, 06:47:55 PM
The above “quote” is total bullshit as indicated in the “Misattribution” portion of the below article.  Do your homework.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

You serve your master well.




WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 06, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
Apparently, the mask thing was worked out between you, us and 3M and now you are getting the masks...so don't freak out and start sing the Internationale already. ;)

Does it surprise you to learn that I think that is kind of too bad? I really was enjoying arguing with other Canadians who were upset. The easiest defense of my position was "if things were reversed, and Canada had too few masks, should we sell them to the USA, or keep them for the use of our doctors and nurses?" And then I would follow it up with a reminder that is the reason we need to have some of our own industry in this country.

And now you are telling me that my main source of amusement over the weekend has evaporated with an agreement?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 07:04:01 PM
Does it surprise you to learn that I think that is kind of too bad? I really was enjoying arguing with other Canadians who were upset. The easiest defense of my position was "if things were reversed, and Canada had too few masks, should we sell them to the USA, or keep them for the use of our doctors and nurses?" And then I would follow it up with a reminder that is the reason we need to have some of our own industry in this country.

And now you are telling me that my main source of amusement over the weekend has evaporated with an agreement?

Supposedly.


WOTR

Quote from: aldousburbank on April 06, 2020, 05:14:09 PM
A recession is when your neighbor loses their job. A depression is when you lose yours.
A pandemic is when your neighbor dies from corona. A plague is when you do.
Still superior to a Clinton presidency.
Where tf is Jackstar? Welfare check time?

Ah, so you missed his "goodbye" to Bellgab. He actually appears to have posted his manifesto of sorts and then disappeared... You kind of have to wish the guy well, and hope that he pops in again some day...

His last two posts.

Quote from: Michael Kuczi on March 28, 2020, 11:49:06 AM
I am getting married. Suffer.

And

Quote from: Michael Kuczi on March 28, 2020, 11:16:36 AM
You don't know the half of it.


So, here's the action, and for once, I'm giving it straight. I've been gearing up for a couple weeks now. Pull the trigger, pluck the hens, hoist the flag, dust off the rings. Publish. I had this whole plan set up, and by that I mean Plan, because the truth of Me, dear Gabbers, is that I've been tending to a truly bombshell, untold story from my own experience for the last 23 years. It's been percolating in the deep sauce, and has been fully ripe for about three years now. After Bell retired at the hands of a lone, deranged gunman--heh heh--I thought that I would wait a while, to ensure no one might paint me as simply hoaxing to ride the death coattail, and then I'd set it in motion. Whitley Strieber was gonna be my prime target. All I needed with him was five minutes, I swear. It was gonna be a gasser. You have no idea. Hell, I have no idea--the one time I got Whitley on the phone just as a simple weather balloon, I accidently scared the -l-y right out of his first name. I felt sad, as I meant him no harm whatsoever, but clearly the dude was panicked by just a few phrases from lil' ol' me. Perhaps at that point, I was already fearsome legend. I was working my hardest at being friendly, too, which in retrospect is likely a real red flag to anyone sensitive to being punked millions of times for multiple decades. Oops, my bad too much, I can really never tell until after. I wasn't there to spook him at all, just to find out if he would be willing to admit to remembering the event date.

23, that's a good number. Years, yeah? Actual yes. I've alluded to this fact before--careful, astute readers of what must pathetically termed "my work" on this site will know instantly to what I refer. (((Hi guys!))) And a few rare gems of lurkers, you know who you are, but I do not--there's a few stone cold bawlers around this place, they know me. Oh yes. They do. Oh, the event date? Sorry, I smoked it with the blockchain. Don't wonder about it right now. It'll come out later.

I do so wish that this was paranoid fantasy, just me talking mad, mad shit while mechanically refilling one coffee enema right after another. You've no idea. The reality of my life is that for exactly half of it, I've been holding on to my tongue and just shitposting "fuck you dawg" over and over at all those whinging imbeciles putting the poo-poo on all the U.F.O. speculation, while always only a brief daydream and a few keystrokes away from sparking a fest of crazy wild speculation for at least one or two hundred posts. Or maybe pages. Yet after 23 years, I'm not going to lie, it's a thrill to be finally over the line. I thought I would never feel like doing it to actual completion, as I am truly one of the most ardent fans of leisure my species has ever produced. And over this is, because the publishing plan that I mentioned before, is now toasted. Sorry. No special episode of Jack's Ancient Aliens. No box set release of Project Fap Book. No opportunity for the slavering hordes of shill-lackeys to at last rend their gaze on my pale, vulnerable, Author Form, and unleash their scenthounds upon my unique trail. 23 years of dreaming, meditative visions and the occasional sketch in Crayon, all that anticipation building solely, only in my mind, and after today... well, fuck it. Fuck it all and fucking no regrets. I'm changing horses right at the riverbank, everyone is completely fucking fired, S Corp docs shredded, coke and hookers on speed dial and the last of the credit line straight into an I.V. I'll be honest, I never really liked the idea of being some famous disco-closer with the book deals and the regular appearances on "radio" to drone on and on about non-falsifiable truths. I know me, see. I wouldn't last ten days of tame tapdance before whipping out the most obnoxious red pill stink bomb in the most odious way possible--I don't know what, but I do know me. Balls to the wall, and some Cabal lieutenant would just finally pulverize the fed up glass. I'd be marked for death blossom, and that'd be it, I've had plenty of warnings and my entire family has been murdered already, so it's not like I'd get any second chances. But that's not why I'm not going that route either. Gotta die sometime, and I think it would be a rare chance to field test some sigil magick for bulletproofing, just for the street cred. No, there's one single solitary reason that I've decided to cap off my 23 year pre-show-show-prep with a wall of text manifesto on an obscure backlot clapboard mech, and that is this: I am just fucking disgusted with the whole sorry fucking lot of you. I don't like to be so crass, without any avatars, but seriously, fuck all you people. I look around, and you what? This? This? Shit, I thought my house was bad, but to here it's a palace.

Part of it is the sudden realization that, if I were going to do this--and I have--the cultural landscape of today and my place within it basically mandates that I would have to actually break down my gorge and nausea and actually call in to MITD again. Or, Kingdom of Lies. Or whatever this lumbering monstrosity of #Legacy zombie cruft is calling itself now. And it's not stagefright or lack of confidence or even nervous nausea that has been the deciding factor, it's simply straight up vile revulsion at the merest glimpse of what this audio vomitorium has prolapsed itself into. Y'all come here for drive-bys, but have you actually looked at it lately? It's bile upon sputum upon toejam, from top to bottom. It's not even plumb.

I can't do it. I just can't do it. It's not even that I don't like Heather--finally, I can announce that I am wildly infatuated with her and have always been since before the test show, betcha couldn't tell tho--it's that I am profoundly embarrassed by what this shiteshow has let itself become, and by extension, the entirety of all the tuned in public. I in fact blame my self for this. 23 years, I could have opened up at any time before now. But, you know how it is, reserve guard status, optional project, so many other things to do, no one even knows that the release is coming, absolutely no pressure, just let it slide. And I honestly did think that someone with far more panache and style than I would show up to start the ball rolling long before now.

As we all of us know, the pickin's have been slimmin'. Alex Jones down, Joe Rogan up, are you actually shitting me? They may as well just slip the Soma right into the eyeball curve. It's gotten so bad, people are actually considering going back to books. To smash themselves in the face with. And what would there be to follow a drop on #Legacy with? Jesus, I'd have to end up on Twitch. Fuck that. Just strangle me below the ribcage and call it an epilogue. I'm getting the nightsweats just thinking about it. Nope, nope, nope. Fuck radio, fuck streaming, and fuck the entire machine that hoovers everything up and posts emoticons and spyware. I was sincere, I was eager, I was engaged--then I took a step back and looked at I was doing and recognized that no result could ever come of my contribution to history that wouldn't make me cringe deep down inside for the entirety of my life. Now that I've lost everything in my life that matters, my enhanced freedoms

I often thought that I was going to let Bell have the first swing at it, given that he was on it during the day of the event, but let's face it, the dude was weaksauce in a black and white shadow box. He excelled in his time, but that time was filled with nipshits who actually had to wonder if OK City was unusual or not. Savage intellects back then, word. And no social media network to burn the gags. But that world is gone.

Today's world is one in which any unusual story can be instantly cross-indexed and verified by robots. Long before you've read this post, the thinking cloud has already cataloged and linked the whole she-bang. The robotic information sphere contains all of my posts from all of my identities from all of the fringe-cringe forums that I've used. This, I say with equal parts of pride and deep, enduring shame, is frankly a lot of absolute balderdash, and sprinkled here and there, little bits of text that reference the outlandish, but true fact, that on November 14, 1997, I had a close contact experience with sphere-shaped interdimensional beings.

Go ahead, say it's bullshit. I want you to. The longer this stays buried, the more robots will frenetically search for any and all related details. And, no, I don't care if it finds them. The robots aren't going to get the full story out of me any more than any of you are going to. One quick peek, and that's the end of it. I'm finally free of my duty, and free of all you lying dispshit asshats forever, thank God. No proof posted here: go on, dismiss this. Do it. I want you to. The elimination of any desire for any fame or any fortune has dramatically sped up my exit strategy. Totally worth it, you thugs can shove your hush money flat.

Case closed. Fuck off. You had your chance. You all had your chances. Go find someone else carrying an alien implant to be your dance monkey. Pack a lunch, Fuckos.

WOTR

Quote from: whoozit on April 05, 2020, 03:36:12 PM
Dinks must be touched!

So, that is what it takes to make the top right?  ;)


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: paladin1991 on April 06, 2020, 07:15:14 PM
Is this a clip fm the world peace conference in Team America?

That’s funny because I was just thinking yesterday that we need to go Team America on China’s ass, among others. Now, suck my cock, paladin! It’s not a sex thing. I just need to know how committed you are.

aldousburbank

Quote from: WOTR on April 06, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
Ah, so you missed his "goodbye" to Bellgab. He actually appears to have posted his manifesto of sorts and then disappeared... You kind of have to wish the guy well, and hope that he pops in again some day...

His last two posts.

And

Yikes! I hope the dude is ok. Some people can handle lockdown better than others. This is one of those times when veterans of “time served” have useful experience to bring to the game.

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