Breakng news. Not good.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Apparently there are rumors there were a second and third shooter that somehow got away...

[chefist]

Apparently there are rumors there were a second and third shooter that somehow got away...

God bless her...

[norland2424]

It's all brutal. Don't let the videos fool you. Every prisoner I took in Iraq begged for their life. Some pissed and shit on themselves. Other's would lie there. Dead. They are people, just like us, but they fear the sword. They obey whomever is the strongest.

Pretty much, its basic human nature, all these vids are made by their psyop people , to try and trick Abdul goat herder into thinking that they are hard motherfuckers

[albrecht]

He had an AR 15 and a glock

Doable. Especially if not interfered with and with the time before LEO engaged. Sadly, easily doable, if a pure Muslim or just no qualms about doing such evil acts.

[MV/Liberace!]

I want to know if you observe ramadan,  MV.  Tell the truth.

Or is it just your terrorist wife?

When in Morocco during Ramadan I do, but otherwise, no. My wife does, though.

[Richard Groyper]

Apparently there are rumors there were a second and third shooter that somehow got away...

Wouldn't shock me. 50 is high kill count for one shooter. Even for a well armed one.

[norland2424]

Doable. Especially if not interfered with and with the time before LEO engaged. Sadly, easily doable, if a pure Muslim or just no qualms about doing such evil acts.

I did read that an off duty LEO was working security and did exchange gun fire with the pos.

[mikuthing01]

So guys, what is the solution?  Do we put troops on the ground and go after them? Do we loosen gun laws so that Americans can freely open and carry to protect themselves in situations like this? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

Nationalism is the answer. All the Muhammad's can pray and behead whoever they want in their own country.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Doable. Especially if not interfered with and with the time before LEO engaged. Sadly, easily doable, if a pure Muslim or just no qualms about doing such evil acts.

My two thoughts on this is to spray a club with enough bullets to hit 103 people is going to take two or three minutes with gun loading or gun changes. How did 103 people stay frozen in this chaos? Also having been in a lot of gay clubs, gay dudes are pretty fucking diesel. I'm surprised no one could stop this guy or get their hands on him.

[MV/Liberace!]

Interviewed no less than 3 times. For making terror threats.

Yup. It's absurd. But some white guy who calls himself a "sovereign citizen" will stay on their radar in perpetuity. We're doomed.

[Richard Groyper]

Pretty much, its basic human nature, all these vids are made by their psyop people , to try and trick Abdul goat herder into thinking that they are hard motherfuckers

Ain't that the truth. They're hard until the chips are down. They fold faster that a cheap lawn chair.

[chefist]

My two thoughts on this is to spray a club with enough bullets to hit 103 people is going to take two or three minutes with gun loading or gun changes. How did 103 people stay frozen in this chaos? Also having been in a lot of gay clubs, gay dudes are pretty fucking diesel. I'm surprised no one could stop this guy or get their hands on him.

I'm sure there will be many stories of bravery....

[WOTR]

You are a complete piece of shit...you won't even offer condolences for those show died this day...

This is what I don't get.  I fell badly for the families who will not see their loved ones again, and for those who will be disabled from this.  If we had somebody on Bellgab who lost a family member or friend, or even an internet acquaintance, I would offer condolences to them.  But to post it here?  Who am I offering them to?  To you... to MV?  To those who feel bad about the tragedy?  Just in case their mothers suddenly type "George Noory sucks" into google and land here only to find a thread of condolences (and political shit.)

Condolences are written to offer support and are usually difficult to write because you are generally trying to pass a message of sympathy and support to bereaved family and friends.  Writing "my condolences" on Bellgab is kind of useless, empty and pointless aside from to show others what a feeling person you are.

I believe that vote Quimby had written in response to my last post... That seemed heartfelt and honest and was more than just the "my condolences to their families" that I keep hearing / reading.

[MV/Liberace!]

I've read that the backbone of ISIS is Saddam's Republican Guard who dissolved into thin air when Bush invaded. The generals, the trainers, the troops; all stayed underground until they could resurface as a Sunni insurgency.

Makes sense to me.

[chefist]

This is what I don't get.  I fell badly for the families who will not see their loved ones again, and for those who will be disabled from this.  If we had somebody on Bellgab who lost a family member or friend, or even an internet acquaintance, I would offer condolences to them.  But to post it here?  Who am I offering them to?  To you... to MV?  To those who feel bad about the tragedy?

Condolences are written to offer support and are usually difficult to write because you are generally trying to pass a message of sympathy and support to bereaved family and friends.  Writing "my condolences" on Bellgab is kind of useless, empty and pointless aside from to show others what a feeling person you are.

I believe that vote Quimby had written in response to my last post... That seemed heartfelt and honest and was more than just the "my condolences to their families" that I keep hearing / reading.

That was my first post this morning...then I got attacked for posting my condolences...I know there is hate out there, but come on...

[norland2424]

This is what I don't get.  I fell badly for the families who will not see their loved ones again, and for those who will be disabled from this.  If we had somebody on Bellgab who lost a family member or friend, or even an internet acquaintance, I would offer condolences to them.  But to post it here?  Who am I offering them to?  To you... to MV?  To those who feel bad about the tragedy?

Condolences are written to offer support and are usually difficult to write because you are generally trying to pass a message of sympathy and support to bereaved family and friends.  Writing "my condolences" on Bellgab is kind of useless, empty and pointless aside from to show others what a feeling person you are.

I believe that vote Quimby had written in response to my last post... That seemed heartfelt and honest and was more than just the "my condolences to their families" that I keep hearing / reading.

No its just him trying to make me seem like bad person lol

[albrecht]

My two thoughts on this is to spray a club with enough bullets to hit 103 people is going to take two or three minutes with gun loading or gun changes. How did 103 people stay frozen in this chaos? Also having been in a lot of gay clubs, gay dudes are pretty fucking diesel. I'm surprised no one could stop this guy or get their hands on him.

I have no information but even if a legal weapon (semi auto) the rate of fire can be amazingly quick and with certain ammunition one bullet might hit multiple targets. Though going at that rate usually results in worse aim but this Muslim might have been trained or practiced. Or illegal full-auto? (Again can result in a lot of misses but certainly enough to do the horrible damage.) One can also buy drum-magazines or just swap out regular ones. I have no idea about gay clubs but imagine like any club or bar that many people were drunk/high and most people would never expect this, and so try to flee, get caught up in panic, etc and not confront the Muslim(s.)

[WOTR]

That was my first post this morning...then I got attacked for posting my condolences...I know there is hate out there, but come on...

I genuinely don't get it (and I have to go to supper shortly, so I may miss the response.)  But who did you offer your condolences to- was it just to post it and let the world know that it was a tragedy and that you feel badly (something that most people would agree on...)

[chefist]

No its just him trying to make me seem like bad person lol

Offer condolences then...now...

[chefist]

I genuinely don't get it (and I have to go to supper shortly, so I may miss the response.)  But who did you offer your condolences to- was it just to post it and let the world know that it was a tragedy and that you feel badly (something that most people would agree on...)

Confused...do you care about those who died today?

[littlechris]

Apparently there are rumors there were a second and third shooter that somehow got away...

Thanks Quimby. Interesting. You know, the BBC said early this morning that there was more than one gunman. I assumed they just made a mistake.

[PB the Deplorable]

Isis didn't start up and go on the attack until after the troops got there and destabilized the cesspool. Kinda hard to miss that.

So your argument is a president has no responsibility to work on issues they inherit from their predecessors? 

The Administration has been searching for a definition of the Obama Doctrine, I think you've stumbled onto it.

[albrecht]

Yup. It's absurd. But some white guy who calls himself a "sovereign citizen" will stay on their radar in perpetuity. We're doomed.

Yep. Some kid 'sharing' some awful Hollywood movie can get busted or some teen who sexts his girlfriend is busted and gets a sex offender status for life but these radical Muslim shooters/bombers are known about but still do their acts? Is the NSA (etc) actually a scam for fat contracts and don't really have the tech and Orwellian reach as claimed and vaunted? Or they do have all this capability and they still let this stuff go on for politically-correct, or worse, reasons?

[mikuthing01]

Orlando Killer Worked For Company Transporting Illegal Immigrants Inside US; Was Interviewed By FBI 3 Times

Armed with all this information, the big question, now that it has emerged that Mateen worked for the same company that has been tasked - under questionable circumstances - to transport illegals into the US, is whether or not this individual who swore allegiance to ISIS moments before the worst mass shooting and who was also employed by G4S for almost a decade, and who had been interviewed by the FBI three times and yet still managed to buy guns just last week, was also tasked in any way in facilitating the transport of illegal immigrants across the border, and if so, whether he helped other like-minded radical islamists enter the country.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/orlando-shooter-worked-security-company-which-tranports-illegal-immigrants-deep-insi

[WOTR]

Confused...do you care about those who died today?

And that relates to my typing "my condolences" on Bellgab exactly how? Did your typing those words prove to anybody that you actually feel anything?

I know... You offered them to the mothers who will undoubtedly be typing "george noory sucks" into google today so that they know that you stand in solidarity with them and will do whatever it takes to help them though what will be a difficult time.

[chefist]

Offer condolences then...now...

that's what I thought...

[21st Century Man]

Shocking, yet not surprised.  So, tell me again, why he hasn't been hung, yet, for high treason?

Hang 'em all.  Barry,  Pelosi, Shillary, Reid, McConnell, Corker, McCain, Graham etc.  All of them spend far too much time tearing down the Constitution and do little to honor and cherish it.

[chefist]

And that relates to my typing "my condolences" on Bellgab exactly how? Did your typing those words prove to anybody that you actually feel anything?

I know... You offered them to the mothers who will undoubtedly be typing "george noory sucks" into google today so that they know that you stand in solidarity with them and will do whatever it takes to help them though what will be a difficult time.

so you don't care about them, then? Clearly you don't...

[norland2424]

Ain't that the truth. They're hard until the chips are down. They fold faster that a cheap lawn chair.

Yup you need to check out the recent video where isis trys to frontal assault some Kurdish fob , lol its a funny video

[norland2424]

Offer condolences then...now...

No