USSC Justice Scalia Dead at 79

[Jackstar]

also malicious for trying to make the family suffer for your lack of social skills. Grow up!

[albrecht]

I hope there is a very public examination of the evidence and conditions in the death of Scalia. If nothing else at least an autopsy, ideally even a 3rd party autopsy, should be performed and the evidence made public. Sure he was old but his death, the 'confusion', and coming so close after the Court holding off Obama's 'war on coal' measures and the controversial stuff, like Obama's immigrant demands, coming down the pike?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-tv-station-scalia-died-of-a-heart-attack/2016/02/14/938e2170-d332-11e5-9823-02b905009f99_story.html
Very bizarre goings-on. No autopsy? No details? So local JP handling a Justice who so conveniently dies?
"pronounced Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body and decided not to order an autopsy"

[136 or 142]

I hope there is a very public examination of the evidence and conditions in the death of Scalia. If nothing else at least an autopsy, ideally even a 3rd party autopsy, should be performed and the evidence made public. Sure he was old but his death, the 'confusion', and coming so close after the Court holding off Obama's 'war on coal' measures and the controversial stuff, like Obama's immigrant demands, coming down the pike?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-tv-station-scalia-died-of-a-heart-attack/2016/02/14/938e2170-d332-11e5-9823-02b905009f99_story.html
Very bizarre goings-on. No autopsy? No details? So local JP handling a Justice who so conveniently dies?
"pronounced Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body and decided not to order an autopsy"

According to the article his family requested that no autopsy be performed. 

The headline writer and the writer of the article are different people.  If you read the article there really is no confusion just a slow process based on the fact that his death occurred in an isolated community and it took time for the medical and legal people to get there.  None of his friends suspected foul play.

[albrecht]

According to the article his family requested that no autopsy be performed. 

The headline writer and the writer of the article are different people.  If you read the article there really is no confusion just a slow process based on the fact that his death occurred in an isolated community and it took time for the medical and legal people to get there.  None of his friends suspected foul play.

Oh I know the area quite well. Hand a land-deal out there some decades ago. Very rural and things are far away, I get that. Beautiful area by the way but also some rough country. My point being that for such a powerful official that, in cases of death, the government, rights of the people to know, should trump some local JP or even his family. Autopsy should be done so that we can eliminate conspiracy theories (or prove them.  ) But in all seriousness there have been judges killed or compromised in the past (locally here we had a judge who got shot up outside her home in a nice neighborhood.) A Justice deals with even MORE important issues. Autopsy should be done and results made public.

[Showroom Dummy]

I hope there is a very public examination of the evidence and conditions in the death of Scalia. If nothing else at least an autopsy, ideally even a 3rd party autopsy, should be performed and the evidence made public. Sure he was old but his death, the 'confusion', and coming so close after the Court holding off Obama's 'war on coal' measures and the controversial stuff, like Obama's immigrant demands, coming down the pike?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-tv-station-scalia-died-of-a-heart-attack/2016/02/14/938e2170-d332-11e5-9823-02b905009f99_story.html
Very bizarre goings-on. No autopsy? No details? So local JP handling a Justice who so conveniently dies?
"pronounced Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body and decided not to order an autopsy"

EXACTLY  not that hard to perform one - unusual ? -conspiracy theories   will be abound

[136 or 142]

Oh I know the area quite well. Hand a land-deal out there some decades ago. Very rural and things are far away, I get that. Beautiful area by the way but also some rough country. My point being that for such a powerful official that, in cases of death, the government, rights of the people to know, should trump some local JP or even his family. Autopsy should be done so that we can eliminate conspiracy theories (or proven them.)

I don't disagree with that.

[Richard Groyper]

EXACTLY  not that hard to perform one - unusual ? -conspiracy theories   will be abound

No, for going an autopsy on a deceased elderly person is NOT a rare occurrence. Happens all the time.

[albrecht]

No, for going an autopsy on a deceased elderly person is NOT a rare occurrence. Happens all the time.

Of course. But we aren't talking about a standard deceased elderly person but a SC Justice who had just help stay one of Obama's key policies ('war on coal') and whose later ruling potentially could threat or undermine the warming climate change agreement Obama, and many powerful companies and entities, want decided in Paris a few weeks ago. Intimidation, even killing, of judges and other public officials is not unheard of.
Autopsy and information should be made public.

[Richard Groyper]

Of course. But we aren't talking about a standard deceased elderly person but a SC Justice who had just help stay one of Obama's key policies ('war on coal') and whose later ruling potentially could threat or undermine the warming climate change agreement Obama, and many powerful companies and entities, want decided in Paris a few weeks ago. Intimidation, even killing, of judges and other public officials is not unheard of.
Autopsy and information should be made public.

I understand. The world still runs on a budget. High ranking government official or not. He was very obese. A myocardial infarction is not a bizarre cause of death.

[albrecht]

I understand. The world still runs on a budget. High ranking government official or not.

Yeah, but considering what our government will waste money on!  One might think that a Justice would be entitled to protection and any deaths be investigated thoroughly and in a open-manner. Here we had a judge recently who got shot outside her home (she wasn't killed but injured and now she has 24/7 guards and we are incurring all kinds of costs.) Arguably one of the most powerful people in the US dies and no autopsy and a local JP is in charge?

Just saying, I'm sure we have much even more effective methods today if so desired by powerful people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDSnTv6A8o

[Richard Groyper]

Yeah, but considering what our government will waste money on!  One might think that a Justice would be entitled to protection and any deaths be investigated thoroughly and in a open-manner. Here we had a judge recently who got shot outside her home (she wasn't killed but injured and now she has 24/7 guards and we are incurring all kinds of costs.) Arguably one of the most powerful people in the US dies and no autopsy and a local JP is in charge?

Just saying, I'm sure we have much even more effective methods today if so desired by powerful people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDSnTv6A8o

I agree. Here's an interesting article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-tv-station-scalia-died-of-a-heart-attack/2016/02/14/938e2170-d332-11e5-9823-02b905009f99_story.html

[GravitySucks]

Yeah, but considering what our government will waste money on!  One might think that a Justice would be entitled to protection and any deaths be investigated thoroughly and in a open-manner. Here we had a judge recently who got shot outside her home (she wasn't killed but injured and now she has 24/7 guards and we are incurring all kinds of costs.) Arguably one of the most powerful people in the US dies and no autopsy and a local JP is in charge?

Just saying, I'm sure we have much even more effective methods today if so desired by powerful people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDSnTv6A8o

I bet she was no where near Daytona...

http://www.ksdk.com/story/sports/motor/nascar/2015/01/13/kurt-busch-ex-girlfriend-assassin-martellaro/21727233/

[albrecht]

I bet she was no where near Daytona...

http://www.ksdk.com/story/sports/motor/nascar/2015/01/13/kurt-busch-ex-girlfriend-assassin-martellaro/21727233/

Wow! That situation is bizarre. Busch got one of the best lawyers here so I would suspect he will get off.

[Showroom Dummy]

No, for going an autopsy on a deceased elderly person is NOT a rare occurrence. Happens all the time.

yes i know that most times no autopsy is needed with someone of his age -however he was alone when he died and a SC justice, in these times unfortunately things needs to be investigated simple because i saw the zapruder film- people question the moon landings but hey who knows.............but in this case .............WHAT IF?   

[Zoo]

May his Christian God Judge him as harshly as he judge those on earth!!1

[FearBoysWithBugs]

I've used them in discussions on other boards with one or two economics professors and used to use them in papers to my economics instructors,

So you ARE a college student?  Maybe SmellyVagoo was right about you.

nobody has ever said that I've used them incorrectly.

Maybe they, like us, realize what a frustrating waste of time it would be to do that.

I'm having problems, as you may be able to tell, with quoting other comments

I take back the comment where I called you a putz.  This inability to find and use the quote button indicates that you are a high-functioning retard in the Falkie mode.  One of those in my life is already too much.  Good day sirrah

[Walks_At_Night]

Just found these missives in my email inbox.   Wonder what took so long?

[Sean92008]

They sure did a quick embalming at 3:30 a.m...  First thing I thought when I heard "no autopsy" was that it was very Clintonesque. 

[albrecht]

Just found these missives in my email in box.   Wonder what took so long?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-ranch-owner-recalls-Scalia-s-last-hours-6830372.php
Wow.
Certainly not related to the Admiral Poindexter of Iran-Contra and "Total Information Awareness" fame. (I'm pretty sure he isn't but  .) And still no autopsy or investigation? Nothing to see here, move away. Let some local JP deal with it without even viewing the body. Makes sense when dealing with the death of one of the most powerful people in the US, effectively. 

[Keyser Söze]

Wonder if Scalia died in the saddle?  All those pillows pilled up is mighty interesting.  Where is all the poop and pee stains on the sheets?  It's not a pretty scene when someone dies in bed, Scalia’s room, an expansive suite called the “El Presidente.”

[21st Century Man]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-ranch-owner-recalls-Scalia-s-last-hours-6830372.php

"We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head. His bed clothes were unwrinkled," said Poindexter.

This is unbelievable that an autopsy wasn't performed.  They better try to do one now.  I wonder if 136 or 142 was seen lurking on the property?

[21st Century Man]

I'm sorry I insulted your hero.  If I crossed over the line, what about you wishing Obama dead?

I'm not going to try to engage you any further after this post but Obama has caused tremendous harm to befall on our country and while I would NEVER condone his murder - that way lies martyrdom and chaos-  yes I do wish sometimes that he was no longer with us.  However in 11 months it won't matter.  He can enjoy his retirement out in Oahu for all I care.

He has pissed on the Constitution and refuses to enforce the laws of the land.  He should have been impeached and convicted but Republicans are too afraid of the R word and they are probably right in this instance. Obama has made sure that racism is alive and well in the USA after 40 years of progress.  I despise what he has done to this country.  I would reverse almost EVERYTHING he has done as President.  I say almost because maybe he did one or two things that were ok but I can't think of them now.

Further conversation with you would be pointless and frankly I don't give a damn what you think.

[AvDaBr]

I suppose my retort to '136 or 142' would be to ask him why Ruth Ginsburg, a Justice I am confident he adores, held Scalia in such high esteem. 

[21st Century Man]

I suppose my retort to '136 or 142' would be to ask him why Ruth Ginsburg, a Justice I am confident he adores, held Scalia in such high esteem.

That is what I tried to point out but he just ignored it.  For God's sake , they took many vacations together.   They were great friends.  If anything  that shows what a tolerant man Scalia was and that he valued friendship over politics.

[AvDaBr]

That is what I tried to point out but he just ignored it.  For God's sake , they took many vacations together.   They were great friends.  If anything  that shows what a tolerant man Scalia was and that he valued friendship over politics.

I probably should have scrolled back a bit before posting that.  It's certainly telling of the man that someone who actually worked alongside him, essentially as his judicial negative, would regard him as her "best buddy".  Much more so than what the Democratic Underground types would offer.

[Dateline]

I just saw on Drudge that he was found with a pillow over his head.  The sheets were not wrinkled.  Also, I have read that he had declined security that day.  He was declared dead by a medical examiner telephonically that had not seen him.  That can be performed in Texas.  The story keeps changing and especially the details.

As has probably already been posted many cases are being decided that affect Obama issues, including abortion, immigration. Obama care, and other topics.  He is a strong constitutional and he is the deciding votes in those 5/4 decisions.

[Jackstar]

Very bizarre goings-on. No autopsy? No details? So local JP handling a Justice who so conveniently dies?
"pronounced Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body and decided not to order an autopsy"

What time did they report it in Australia? Oh, nevermind... I think we know the time zone difference now between Australia and Texas.

[136 or 142]

So you ARE a college student?  Maybe SmellyVagoo was right about you.

Maybe they, like us, realize what a frustrating waste of time it would be to do that.

I take back the comment where I called you a putz.  This inability to find and use the quote button indicates that you are a high-functioning retard in the Falkie mode.  One of those in my life is already too much.  Good day sirrah

1.I wrote 'used to': as in past tense.  So, no I haven't been a college student in many years.

2.I said it wasn't working properly for me for some reason.  I am well aware of the quote button and it usually works fine for me.

Your inability to read or understand what I wrote (the first case requiring no more difficulty to understand that merely noticing the tense) suggests to me you are either a deliberately obtuse troll or a low-functioning 'retard.'  Either way you're a waste of time for everybody here and a complete idiot.

Please go crawl back under your rock and roll away.

"If he's under a rock how can he roll away?"

[136 or 142]

I'm not going to try to engage you any further after this post but Obama has caused tremendous harm to befall on our country and while I would NEVER condone his murder - that way lies martyrdom and chaos-  yes I do wish sometimes that he was no longer with us.  However in 11 months it won't matter.  He can enjoy his retirement out in Oahu for all I care.

He has pissed on the Constitution and refuses to enforce the laws of the land.  He should have been impeached and convicted but Republicans are too afraid of the R word and they are probably right in this instance. Obama has made sure that racism is alive and well in the USA after 40 years of progress.  I despise what he has done to this country.  I would reverse almost EVERYTHING he has done as President.  I say almost because maybe he did one or two things that were ok but I can't think of them now.

Further conversation with you would be pointless and frankly I don't give a damn what you think.

Interesting you complained that I posted an article from a biased website but everything you wrote here is a compendium of idiotic evidence-free Rethuglic talking points.

I agree further conversation with you would be pointless and I also don't give a damn what you 'think' assuming you even can think which is highly debatable.

If you're interested however, and you want to show that you aren't doing what you said I did, please provide supporting evidence from non biased websites of the following:

1.Obama has 'pissed on' the Constitution.
2.Obama refuses to 'enforce the laws of the land'
3.Obama has made sure that racism is alive and well in America.

[136 or 142]

I suppose my retort to '136 or 142' would be to ask him why Ruth Ginsburg, a Justice I am confident he adores, held Scalia in such high esteem.

I responded to that.  I said having one personal friend on the other side of the ideological spectrum wasn't really proof of much of anything.  He'd have to be incredibly extreme to only have friends who share his ideological positions and, were he that extreme, given that nobody agrees with anybody on everything (except for maybe Lindsey Graham and John McCain) he'd have no friends at all.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/13/supreme-court-scalia-ginsburg/23301095/

There were three other (mostly) liberal judges on the Supreme Court. I don't believe any of them were his friend.