Midnight In The Desert

[SciFiAuthor]

Oh, I see. He's going to release his taxes AFTER the election. It's patriotic of him to wait until he's in office. What a swell guy. I am concerned with a man who flatly refuses to let people know his true character and qualities. How he handles his finances is an indication of how he'll handle his responsibility as president, is it not? To be clear and fair, there isn't a law that forces him to release his taxes (I believe there should be), and that's extremely unfortunate because it allows financially vague people like Trump to hide his business dealings, charitable contributions, and associations with individuals and companies in other countries that may or may not be friendly to the U.S. Why should his taxes continue to be a big secret when it's the American people who are trusting him with the honor and privilege of being their POTUS?  Are you telling me that he won't return that trust by being forthright about himself?  What a slap on the face and a FU! to his supporters, and to me as a registered voter. Wasn't it Donald Trump who opined on past POTUS candidates, by suggesting when someone doesn't release their taxes they must have something to hide? Yes, it was a younger Trump who made the comment. But now he's exempt from his own advice when he's running for president?  A straight and consistent shooter Mr. Trump isn't. We should be wise enough to dispense with the corrupt before they enter the White House. Why would anyone want to have scandals erupt as soon as someone becomes president because of substandard and ineffectual vetting? Vet them/him fully now while there's time, not when it's too late. Hillary has been through the wringer many times in her political career, and continues to be, but you can't honestly say the same about deliberately non-transparent Trump. Let's abolish the one-sided hyper-scrutiny to equalize the POTUS playing field. I know the American people will be the benefactors for the effort.

This may be a shock for some to hear. There's no law preventing Trump from releasing his taxes. None. I don't immediately believe him when he says "believe me." I ask, why should I believe you?  His tax lawyer (or other) advised him not to release his taxes while under audit.  His audit excuse doesn't hold water when he's running for POTUS. It's irrelevant. The American people (not only his supporters) have a need and right to know. Is he as great a businessman as he says he is? Then put up or shut up. Prove it. Quiet the naysayers. The tax returns won't lie. I don't have the blind faith in Trump that you do. There are a number of speculations to explain why he is stalling, and make no mistake, he is stalling. The reasonable speculations don't include being audited because clinging to that baseless excuse is the definition of daft. What Trump could/should do is to immediately provide the IRS audit notification letter that he received as evidence of an audit. He has one, right? It's pretty simple and straightforward to post the letter on his website or arrange a press conference. It's not his missing tax returns, and it doesn't prove he's still being audited, but it would provide some proof that he underwent an audit. That's only if Trump is being honest, of course. His auditing excuse belongs in the trash can. It's puzzling to me how you hold Hillary to a much higher standard than Trump, while it's both who are applying for the same job. It's Trump who is the mystery man with no political history, no solid track record of his stand on important issues, and no verifiable documentation of his business dealings in multiple countries that have conflicts of interest written all over them should he begin to conduct his business from the White House.  As Trump is fond of saying, it's unbelievable.

If the dirt is factual I see no harm or foul. It's hard-knock politics. Think of all the accusations against Clinton that your boy Trump has thrown out as dirt. In addition to all of the truly disgusting things he's inferred about Pres. Obama and his place of birth. Glass houses. You must realize a reason Brock is offering money is because Donald Trump has to be one of the least transparent POTUS nominees in history. I wonder why.

You're actually more concerned with Donald Trump's tax returns than the question of whether Hillary can be given a security clearance given her history of recklessly compromising classified information? That alone puts her in unprecedented territory as far as electability goes. I'm no die-hard fan of Trump, but priorities are priorities and national security is at the top of the list and the fact is Hillary has a proven history of compromising national security through emailgate.

[PaulAtreides]

You're actually more concerned with Donald Trump's tax returns than the question of whether Hillary can be given a security clearance given her history of recklessly compromising classified information? .

Right wing crackers have been trying to pin shit on the Clinton's for most of 40 years.  THEY HAVE ALL FAILED.  I believe that many of Trump's supporters are really just Obama haters and they hate him because he's black.  Racism is alive and well in America.    I support giving you all the state of Texas.  After you've been rounded up in put in FEMA trailers, then we'll build the wall - around the entire state. 

[Donald Noory]

I concur with Patrick's opinion of Texas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvkjewgF8GQ

[Donald Noory]

(fake)Sci-fi author and the other Trumptards when the results come in on election day.

[SciFiAuthor]

Right wing crackers have been trying to pin shit on the Clinton's for most of 40 years.  THEY HAVE ALL FAILED.  I believe that many of Trump's supporters are really just Obama haters and they hate him because he's black.  Racism is alive and well in America.    I support giving you all the state of Texas.  After you've been rounded up in put in FEMA trailers, then we'll build the wall - around the entire state.

Yeah, but that's just parroting canned extremist invectives, i.e. bullshit. I'm concerned about real issues like suitability for issuing a security clearance. She clearly compromised national security by using improper methods of classified information transfer. That shows inherently bad judgment when handling national secrets and if it were any other person they would not be issued a clearance again after a serious compromise. I find that significantly more concerning than a tax return.

[ItsOver]

Interesting that the Clinton's have never been charged, much less convicted of anything...

Slick Willie, in particular, is as pure as the driven snow.

"Former President Clinton was never convicted of perjury, but this isn't to say he escaped unscathed by lying. He was cited for contempt of court, including a $90,000 fine, and he later agreed to a plea bargain with the Office of the Independent Counsel under which his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years."
https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Clinton-not-convicted-of-perjury-since-he-later-admitted-he-did-have-sexual-relations-with-Monica-Lewinsky

[SciFiAuthor]

(fake)Sci-fi author and the other Trumptards when the results come in on election day.

I won't be bothered, I strongly suspect Hillary will win and I do have my problems with Trump as well, they simply do not measure up to the weight of the national security issue I have with Hillary. But I've also been around long enough to know that the word Clinton is synonymous with scandal, so I don't expect her to last a year without her turning herself into girl-Nixon. So the reality is that your .gif is actually you when you realize that you've run the worst possible candidate in your party for the presidency. You are just asking for a massive presidential scandal. That would not have been the case with Bernie.

[Donald Noory]

I won't be bothered, I strongly suspect Hillary will win and I do have my problems with Trump as well, they simply do not measure up to the weight of the national security issue I have with Hillary. But I've also been around long enough to know that the word Clinton is synonymous with scandal, so I don't expect her to last a year without her turning herself into girl-Nixon. So the reality is that your .gif is actually you when you realize that you've run the worst possible candidate in your party for the presidency. You are just asking for a massive presidential scandal. That would not have been the case with Bernie.

[ItsOver]

Yeah, but that's just parroting canned invectives. I'm concerned about real issues like suitability for issuing a security clearance. She clearly compromised national security by using improper methods of classified information transfer. That shows inherently bad judgment when handling national secrets and if it were any other person they would not be issued a clearance again after a serious compromise. I find that significantly more concerning than a tax return.

You couldn't even be hired as a GS-2 with as big of a mess as Big Hill.  Unless you were a Clinton or similar ilk.

[SciFiAuthor]

She may even be the first president not to get pardoned and do prison time.

[SciFiAuthor]

You couldn't even be hired as a GS-2 with as big of a mess as Big Hill.  Unless you were a Clinton or similar ilk.

I've wondered that about the Clintons. If they weren't running for elected office, they probably could not get jobs working for the Federal Government.

[PaulAtreides]

Yeah, but that's just parroting canned extremist invectives, i.e. bullshit. I'm concerned about real issues like suitability for issuing a security clearance. She clearly compromised national security by using improper methods of classified information transfer. That shows inherently bad judgment when handling national secrets and if it were any other person they would not be issued a clearance again after a serious compromise. I find that significantly more concerning than a tax return.

Suitability?  Really?  Let's look at just two items.  First, the whole birther "issue."  Trump finally concedes that Obama was born in American.  But does Trump apologize or even admit that he was wrong.  No.  He can't take responsibility for is own actions.  Then just several days ago Trump announces that Ford is moving all production to Mexico.  Even after the CEO of Ford says that's not true, Trump won't retract his comment.  Trump either refuses to do any fact checking before he opens his mouth or he just makes up shit.  He's a liar.  Just a liar.  No one will trust anything he says.  That will be really great for America.  Trump can't do the job because anyone who has to make up stuff as they go along is just not smart enough to handle it. 

[PaulAtreides]

Hillary's security clearance?  Really?

[SciFiAuthor]

Suitability?  Really?  Let's look at just two items.  First, the whole birther "issue."  Trump finally concedes that Obama was born in American.  But does Trump apologize or even admit that he was wrong.  No.  He can't take responsibility for is own actions.  Then just several days ago Trump announces that Ford is moving all production to Mexico.  Even after the CEO of Ford says that's not true, Trump won't retract his comment.  Trump either refuses to do any fact checking before he opens his mouth or he just makes up shit.  He's a liar.  Just a liar.  No one will trust anything he says.  That will be really great for America.  Trump can't do the job because anyone who has to make up stuff as they go along is just not smart enough to handle it.

Anyone that goes into politics is a sociopathic liar. Every. Single. One. Of. Them. It's a requirement of the job so catch-of-the-day partisan invectives are childish and silly. I can sit and do the same thing with Hillary and show where she lied and did this or that, there is no shortage of material. But that's just the usual waste of time political bullshit we're fed to fuck with during election season. It's all just mindless parrot bullshit.

My concern is national security. As Secretary of State Hillary exposed us to hacking by foreign powers such as Russia. This is unacceptable, and if you or I did that while working for the government at best we'd never work for the Federal Government again and at worst we'd be in jail. This is very concerning. She has demonstrated that she cannot be trusted with national secrets. No other candidate in US history has had this problem and it needs to be talked about reasonably and carefully as a qualification for being president. This is not a political game, this is Putin's people hacking us. This is reality.

[Jackstar]

This is very concerning.

Greetings Starfighter. You have been recruited by The Star League to defend The Frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan Armada.

[PaulAtreides]

As Secretary of State Hillary exposed us to hacking by foreign powers such as Russia.

Just like Trump, you make up shit. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Just like Trump, you make up shit.

No I don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

This is serious shit. If you compromise, for example, a spy then people die over this sort of thing. You do not mishandle classified information. We need to examine this closer and ask ourselves if a person that's proven to be unreliable with classified information is qualified for the presidency. It's simple common-sense and prudence.

[Dr. MD MD]

No I don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

This is serious shit. If you compromise, for example, a spy then people die over this sort of thing. You do not mishandle classified information. We need to examine this closer and ask ourselves if a person that's proven to be unreliable with classified information is qualified for the presidency. It's simple common-sense and prudence.

Nice return, SciFi. That's so undeniably sensible that I felt like I was watching someone get Hitchslapped! 

While I'm not denying that state sponsored hacking goes on, I think it's worth noting that there are hackers all around the world and most show allegiance only to each other and the hacker code. Countries are kind of a quaint but irrelevant idea from the perspective of the internet. Even the US intelligence community seems to be saying it probably wasn't Russia.

[Donald Noory]

No I don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

This is serious shit. If you compromise, for example, a spy then people die over this sort of thing. You do not mishandle classified information. We need to examine this closer and ask ourselves if a person that's proven to be unreliable with classified information is qualified for the presidency. It's simple common-sense and prudence.

Yawn. Did you even read the article you quote?

"Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey."

Yeah, it'll be much better with Trump. He'll just flat out give Putin whatever classified info he wants when Putin drops a few well-placed compliments. Or he'll tweet the classified info. Hillary's not a perfect candidate but Trump is 100 times worse.

[PaulAtreides]

Heather unfriended/blocked me on facebook.  Boo fucking hoo.  But she did call me sweetie.  I thought that was nice.

[god of thunder]

The last couple of pages had a lively political discussion. I wonder if Heather's show tonight will get the same level of activity? 

[Dr. MD MD]

Yawn. Did you even read the article you quote?

"Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey."

Yeah, it'll be much better with Trump. He'll just flat out give Putin whatever classified info he wants when Putin drops a few well-placed compliments. Or he'll tweet the classified info. Hillary's not a perfect candidate but Trump is 100 times worse.

Yeah, and we ultimately don't know how many were classified because she had her personal server scrubbed. Haven't you been paying attention or are you just playing along?!  :

Also, Hillary didn't know what that "C" meant. She thought it meant Clinton...and she was the secretary of state! Good Lord!  :

[Richard Groyper]

Yeah, and we ultimately don't know how many were classified because she had her personal server scrubbed. Haven't you been paying attention or are you just playing along?!  :

Also, Hillary didn't know what that "C" meant. She thought it meant Clinton...and she was the secretary of state! Good Lord!  :

And a staffer went full hammer time on the hard drives. Too legit (to stand up in room temperature)

[PKaiser]

Right wing crackers have been trying to pin shit on the Clinton's for most of 40 years.  THEY HAVE ALL FAILED.  I believe that many of Trump's supporters are really just Obama haters and they hate him because he's black.  Racism is alive and well in America.    I support giving you all the state of Texas.  After you've been rounded up in put in FEMA trailers, then we'll build the wall - around the entire state.

You know what? I, for one, am tired of your white cracker shit, you stupid, black assed nigger!

Now put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, spook!

[ge30542]

And a staffer went full hammer time on the hard drives. Too legit (to stand up in room temperature)

Wasn't the magic number 3?  Didn't they take a hammer to 3 devices?
No, nothing to see here, let's move along.

[norland2424]

You know what? I, for one, am tired of your white cracker shit, you stupid, black assed nigger!

Now put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, spook!

Quoted before you pussy out and edit this post

[Richard Groyper]

You know what? I, for one, am tired of your white cracker shit, you stupid, black assed nigger!

Now put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, spook!

I found a rare Pepe, and his name is PKaiser!

[Richard Groyper]

Wasn't the magic number 3?  Didn't they take a hammer to 3 devices?
No, nothing to see here, let's move along.

That's a lot of hammering.

[Roswells, Art]

You know what? I, for one, am tired of your white cracker shit, you stupid, black assed nigger!

Now put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, spook!

https://youtu.be/dEMHtoWGLW0

[norland2424]

I found a rare Pepe, and his name is PKaiser!

Ohh lordy you all some crazy ass crackas