20151208 - David Jacobs - Alien Experimentation - Live Art Bell Chat Thread

[Barfly]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438492/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_9

Expanded credits.  I saw it on HBO years ago.

I will check this flick out, i have the movie After Porn Ends.

[21st Century Man]

I mean can you imagine the ridicule Jacobs had to go through at Temple University where he was a history professor for like 30 years?   I'm sure people were making fun of him almost every day.  No charlatan would go through that to sell a few books.  He has to really believe this stuff and have good reason to believe it.

[norland2424]

...from experience? LOL! 

watch this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WClv4U5B8

[Gumby, Dammit]

I remember him talking about Ron Jeremy and the idea that men wanted to see guys who looked like themselves in porn, rather than attractive guys.

I think old Ron meant HIMSELF.
Ron Jeremy, King of Men.

[Barfly]

butter packets...

Best reply ever!

[Uncle Duke]

OK Art, fool me once, shame on you......fool me twice shame on me.

Goodnight all.

[ShayP]

watch this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WClv4U5B8

The header says 'RAW Booty Warrior.'  Nahh I'm good.    I know how things go in certain circles.   

[Donald Noory]

Hoaxland's former publisher Richard Grossinger of North Atlantic Books said that he was in jail for a year? heh heh

Here is another little secret about Monuments: the only way the damn thing ever got written was that Hoagland went to prison for one of his inexplicable and weird scams (ostensibly something about a stolen rental car and New York Planetarium credit card)â€"whether it really happend or not as reported, whether it was really a scam or not, and whether he was really guilty or sentenced fairly or not (the answer to the latter is definitely “not,” as he had an attorney involved in his own weird paranoid cosmic conspiracy theories, including Hoagland).  In the end he was incarcerated over a New York State warrant that he chose to flee (to the Golden State) rather than defend in situ; he was apprehended in Berkeley when stopped for having a cardboard rear license plate; refused to plea-bargain; and so got housed in L.A. County jail for over a year.  Admittedly my version of the story is cobbled out of hearsay from a variety of semi-reliable sources, but it roughly tracks some event that actually happened.  He was in jail; that’s where I addressed my mail to him regarding the book; and he did write much of the book there.

[Gumby, Dammit]

watch this lol

Oh Gawd. lol. And his name is JOHNSON to boot.
Get dat man some Booty Juice.

[JamesMcDonald]

I mean can you imagine the ridicule Jacobs had to go through at Temple University where he was a history professor for like 30 years?   I'm sure people were making fun of him almost every day.  No charlatan would go through that to sell a few books.  He has to really believe this stuff and have good reason to believe it.

Oh contraire Mon Ami, charlatans go through a heck of a lot worse than that to make coin.

Money talks. Bullshit takes a stroll off the deep end.

[21st Century Man]

I'm just messing with you man. On with the show.

Ok, man.  You're cool in my book.   

[albrecht]

It had to be one of two situations. 1. He had a purty mouth or 2. He was like the alpha gang leader. I don't know which it was.

I think he was like that movie with the bankrobber turned inside an Aryan nation guy who and that black guy that he had a vendetta for, due to arresting him, and so and messed his life/career up but the black dude wins, finally. The white dude was in the kids Big Foot movie and other legit stuff, and the black guy who is in tons of stuff. How's that for stereotyping.

He wants to bug our homes!!! I wonder why. Jeez.

[ShayP]

Hoaxland's former publisher Richard Grossinger of North Atlantic Books said that he was in jail for a year? heh heh

Here is another little secret about Monuments: the only way the damn thing ever got written was that Hoagland went to prison for one of his inexplicable and weird scams (ostensibly something about a stolen rental car and New York Planetarium credit card)â€"whether it really happend or not as reported, whether it was really a scam or not, and whether he was really guilty or sentenced fairly or not (the answer to the latter is definitely “not,” as he had an attorney involved in his own weird paranoid cosmic conspiracy theories, including Hoagland).  In the end he was incarcerated over a New York State warrant that he chose to flee (to the Golden State) rather than defend in situ; he was apprehended in Berkeley when stopped for having a cardboard rear license plate; refused to plea-bargain; and so got housed in L.A. County jail for over a year.  Admittedly my version of the story is cobbled out of hearsay from a variety of semi-reliable sources, but it roughly tracks some event that actually happened.  He was in jail; that’s where I addressed my mail to him regarding the book; and he did write much of the book there.

"cardboard license plate" 

[Barfly]

Hoaxland's former publisher Richard Grossinger of North Atlantic Books said that he was in jail for a year? heh heh

Here is another little secret about Monuments: the only way the damn thing ever got written was that Hoagland went to prison for one of his inexplicable and weird scams (ostensibly something about a stolen rental car and New York Planetarium credit card)â€"whether it really happend or not as reported, whether it was really a scam or not, and whether he was really guilty or sentenced fairly or not (the answer to the latter is definitely “not,” as he had an attorney involved in his own weird paranoid cosmic conspiracy theories, including Hoagland).  In the end he was incarcerated over a New York State warrant that he chose to flee (to the Golden State) rather than defend in situ; he was apprehended in Berkeley when stopped for having a cardboard rear license plate; refused to plea-bargain; and so got housed in L.A. County jail for over a year.  Admittedly my version of the story is cobbled out of hearsay from a variety of semi-reliable sources, but it roughly tracks some event that actually happened.  He was in jail; that’s where I addressed my mail to him regarding the book; and he did write much of the book there.

If you look into Hoagies past he has many skeletons in the closet.

[ShayP]

I hope David Jacobs is never a guest again.  Well...at least wait a year.

[JamesMcDonald]

I think old Ron meant HIMSELF.
Ron Jeremy, King of Men.

Have any of you guys seen the porn where Ron Jeremy comes up to a girl who doesn't know he's there. The poor girl turns around and sees him and says,  oh no! I don't want to fuck that old pig. It's very funny.    anyway I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.  Those of you who have seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.  I actually felt a little bit bad for Ron watching it.

[norland2424]

"cardboard license plate" 

ive seen this before and i do believe hoagie to be this stupid

[21st Century Man]

Oh contraire Mon Ami, charlatans go through a heck of a lot worse than that to make coin.

Money talks. Bullshit takes a stroll off the deep end.

You have to sell a ton of books to make decent money.  Sure, he's had a couple books that did pretty good business but I bet he wasn't able to upgrade his lifestyle because of them.  He is certainly not making very much money with this latest release.

[SciFiAuthor]

"cardboard license plate" 

I heard the same thing as Donald. Yes, it appears there was a cardboard license plate involved.

[21st Century Man]

Have any of you guys seen the porn where Ron Jeremy comes up to a girl who doesn't know he's there. The poor girl turns around and sees him and says,  oh no! I don't want to fuck that old pig. It's very funny.    anyway I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.  Those of you who have seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.  I actually felt a little bit bad for Ron watching it.

I can't imagine any nice-looking girl wanting to fuck that old hedgehog.  Maybe back in the 80's before he became a lard-ass.  Still, plenty have.  I bet they asked for extra.

[Donald Noory]

ive seen this before and i do believe hoagie to be this stupid

There are numerous Russians in my neighborhood who have "new" cars that have not had plates put on them for well over a year.

[K_Dubb]

...there are many interesting  phenomena from medicine that read like fiction that Art could cover...

Would love to hear some of that!

I'm not tired of the subject yet.  This is like sitting in a smoky shebeen two hundred years ago listening to the local raconteur relate stories of the little people and what happens if you walk past the old standing stones too late at night.

[norland2424]

I can't imagine any nice-looking girl wanting to fuck that old hedgehog.  Maybe back in the 80's before he became a lard-ass.

money is the answer

[Rocky4228]

Have any of you guys seen the porn where Ron Jeremy comes up to a girl who doesn't know he's there. The poor girl turns around and sees him and says,  oh no! I don't want to fuck that old pig. It's very funny.    anyway I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.  Those of you who have seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.  I actually felt a little bit bad for Ron watching it.

Yeah...I'd feel worse for the poor woman.

[JamesMcDonald]

You have to sell a ton of books to make decent money.  Sure, he's had a couple books that did pretty good business but I bet he wasn't able to upgrade his lifestyle because of them.  He is certainly not making very much money with this latest release.

I don't know. It's hard to say in the book business. I have heard the opposite, that he has sold many many copies of that book. The other thing you have to remember is the books are advertising for the speaking engagements. They make a heck of a lot of money doing those sometimes. Think of it as the books are calling cards for business they get in other areas, like speaking engagements and so on. There's money there, believe me.

A lot of people in the paranormal field complain that they don't make a lot of money. But there they are writing books and doing speaking engagements and doing UFO conventions. It's kind of funny right? How can they not be making money when they continue to do it over and over and over again.  Hmmm.

[ShayP]

Have any of you guys seen the porn where Ron Jeremy comes up to a girl who doesn't know he's there. The poor girl turns around and sees him and says,  oh no! I don't want to fuck that old pig. It's very funny.    anyway I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.  Those of you who have seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.  I actually felt a little bit bad for Ron watching it.

I think the title was "Fucking Ugly."  (I'm serious)

There was one similar when he costarred with Vanessa Del Rio.  I don't recall the name though.

[Gumby, Dammit]

Have any of you guys seen the porn where Ron Jeremy comes up to a girl who doesn't know he's there. The poor girl turns around and sees him and says,  oh no! I don't want to fuck that old pig. It's very funny.    anyway I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.  Those of you who have seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.  I actually felt a little bit bad for Ron watching it.

I liked it when he was on Celebrity Rehab with Tammy Fae Baker. OMG. That fat old pig's thingie musta been slathered in mascara by the end of that trainwreck shoot.

[21st Century Man]

money is the answer

There is that.

[Portal Crusher]

I hope David Jacobs is never a guest again.  Well...at least wait a year.

I kind of hope he gets abducted and becomes the Grays' new First Lady.

[ShayP]

There are numerous Russians in my neighborhood who have "new" cars that have not had plates put on them for well over a year.

Well that's sketchy to say the least.