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20151208 - David Jacobs - Alien Experimentation - Live Art Bell Chat Thread

Started by MV/Liberace!, December 08, 2015, 08:53:48 AM


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: Barfly on December 08, 2015, 11:38:21 PM
If it gets boring i will just pick up a guitar and play some Steve Vie or Hendrix

Absolutely. Make your own rules. There are a couple of guys up here in Canada who do a paranormal podcast and one of them is a musician and he writes music and plays a song in the middle of the podcast.  Some of them aren't bad.

If you make your own rules you can conquer the world and more.




albrecht

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on December 08, 2015, 11:29:46 PM
History has always been one of my favorite subjects. I studied the history of Russia and Germany in particular. Fascinating stuff.  You know that expression, we learn from history that we do not learn from history.  Or, of course, if we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.  There are a few similar expressions. The bottom line is, the more history you study the smarter you get and the more despondent you can become living in a world where most people don't give a damn about history. That being the case, you become smarter and smarter and more able to see the shitstorm that might be coming that others are completely oblivious to. That can make you feel like kind of a lonely person in a sea of hairless monkeys.   ;)
Besides the obvious (buy, if you don't have, a set of Durant! Go to a used book store. Get whole set. Same, if you have money other stuff, Harvard Classics, Gibbon, etc.) some more modern I will suggest:
How Far from Austerliz? Alistair Horne (most stuff by him are good)
The Reformation, Dairmaid MaCCulloch
The Great Game, Peter Hopkins (interesting and because not as much covered in our schools.)
Stalin: Court of the Red Tsar, Simon Montefoire
Scramble for Africa, Thomas Pakenham.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 08, 2015, 11:31:07 PM
I also like good erotica.  I tried to read 50 Shades of Grey and couldn't get past the "Inner Goddess" crap.  Many 1970's and 1980's flicks were a lot sexier than that film they made out of it.  Talk about borrrrrinnng.

I haven't read 50 shades of Grey, but spoken at a few people who have, and they say it's crap too. Just look how many copies fill charity shops! It's apparently cap because it comes across as a painting by numbers guide to BDSM, and falls down heavily in it's attempt. Still, if it entertains a few/ several, so what?


Barfly

I personally think Whitley Strieber is full of shit and made a living from a lie.

I will admit that when I bought the hardcover of Communion way back in the mid-80's, the alien on the cover really freaked me out and I really don't know why.   It freaked my Mom out too.  I had to turn the book over while I had it sitting out.  I just couldn't look at that face then.  Now, its no big deal.

JamesMcDonald

Quote from: albrecht on December 08, 2015, 11:45:07 PM
Besides the obvious (buy, if you don't have, a set of Durrant!) some more modern I will suggest:
How Far from Austerliz? Alistair Horne (most stuff by him are good)
The Reformation, Dairmaid MaCCulloch
The Great Game, Peter Hopkins (interesting and because not as much covered in our schools.)
Stalin: Court of the Red Tsar, Simon Montefoire
Scramble for Africa, Thomas Pakenham.

Thanks for the list man!

bateman

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 08, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
I will admit that when I bought the hardcover of Communion way back in the mid-80's, the alien on the cover really freaked me out and I really don't know why.   It freaked my Mom out too.  I had to turn the book over while I had it sitting out.  I just couldn't look at that face then.  Now, its no big deal.

Same reaction. That cover sent chills down my spine. Then I saw the movie and was traumatized for another couple years.


SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Barfly on December 08, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
I personally think Whitley Strieber is full of shit and made a living from a lie.

He is. To this day he caveats his stuff with the claim that it may all just be in his head. Seriously. He was a mildly successful novelist 40 years ago, but everything apparently went in the toilet in the early 80's so he came up with the Communion schtick. But yeah, if you press him, he still defaults back to the argument that it might just all be in his head. Well, that's not really lying, technically. It's based on a real artistic concept called the ecstatic truth, where you take facts and fiction and mix them to attempt to arrive at a higher truth with the reader, but others corrupted it into bullshitting the reader for money.


Barfly

Quote from: bateman on December 08, 2015, 11:48:39 PM
Same reaction. That cover sent chills down my spine. Then I saw the movie and was traumatized for another couple years.
Traumatized?
Really?
Grow some balls


norland2424

Quote from: Barfly on December 08, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
I personally think Whitley Strieber is full of shit and made a living from a lie.

he likes it in the ass


albrecht

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on December 08, 2015, 11:48:20 PM
Thanks for the list man!
I misspelled and also, ha, didn't mentioned that his better half Ariel helped Durant make his epic volumes of history and help write/edit them! Also, depending on your time(!) and etc Gibbon, of course, and then go back. But those modern ones are interesting, some long, but written in more modern manner and more about modern stuff. But well footnoted, for the most part, and documented.


Quote from: Barfly on December 08, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
I personally think Whitley Strieber is full of shit and made a living from a lie.

I believed his initial abduction story but I think he has some really whacked-out theories.  He's definitely milked it for all that its worth which makes me question the whole thing.

Quote from: bateman on December 08, 2015, 11:48:39 PM
Same reaction. That cover sent chills down my spine. Then I saw the movie and was traumatized for another couple years.

LOL.  Christopher Walken has that effect on people.  Seriously, the film freaked me out too.


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 08, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
I will admit that when I bought the hardcover of Communion way back in the mid-80's, the alien on the cover really freaked me out and I really don't know why.   It freaked my Mom out too.  I had to turn the book over while I had it sitting out.  I just couldn't look at that face then.  Now, its no big deal.

Me too. It gave me nightmares. And I had the same avoidance tactic.


albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 08, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
Me too. It gave me nightmares. And I had the same avoidance tactic.
Same. But I think it was something intrinsic and like an editor put it on to scare? Like a baby bird knows a shadow of a hawk causes concern....maybe not. And, if so, why would a human have these reactions?



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