Who will be the next President of the United States?

[CornyCrow]

Eh, why not.  At least Bernie is easier on the eyes than Bill's sweetie.

Bernie has passion, is inspiring, and cares for the country. 

It's a shame that it's Hillary's 'turn'.  It's such a shame that at the debate she criticized the restoration of Glass-Steagall, yet she mentioned no specifics about her program.  She almost said 'You'll love it!  It'll be great!'  Ugh.

[CornyCrow]

I don't buy it. The issue isn't the nomenclature; its that he said he was offered a scholarship/appointment...repeatedly. First, the top-ranked-in-Detroit ROTC cadet (Lt Ben) would not be so ignorant about the Academy appointment process.  Second, he didn't write the infamous "...I was offered a scholarship to West Point..." as a HS student. He wrote it in 1996, after he'd authored dozens of papers and articles in profession medical publications and knew better than to be sloppy.  Then he put it in a second book in 2013 and repeated it in several recent interviews.  So it's clear that he was either knowingly blowing smoke or is the world's sole neurosurgical idiot savant.

Yes.  At first Carson came across as a very congenial person, but trustworthy.  Now, he seems to be an inveterate liar.  Jay Leno said, on Bill Maher's show, in reference to Carson - 'Black Lies Matter'. 

How can Carson believe the mumbo-jumbo of his religion and remain a doctor?  A person starts out in thinking he's a rational man, guided by reason, until he opens his mouth and proves himself a liar and a believer in fairy-tales.  It really shows a person that expertise in one field does not translate into capabilities in another.

[CornyCrow]

Having looked at Rubio's boyish looks at 44, and also heard the demon stuff on MITD, I'm convinced he sold his soul to Satan but Adelson bought the note.

Yeah, we don't hear much about Adelson in this election, just the Koch's. 

[VtaGeezer]

How can Carson believe the mumbo-jumbo of his religion and remain a doctor?  A person starts out in thinking he's a rational man, guided by reason, until he opens his mouth and proves himself a liar and a believer in fairy-tales.  It really shows a person that expertise in one field does not translate into capabilities in another.

It shows an almost (?) psychopathic ability to compartmentalize the thought process, espousing ideas that are in absolute conflict. To me Carson's like a vegan butcher.  Honestly, that kind of mind probably could self-justify almost anything.

[CornyCrow]

It shows an almost (?) psychopathic ability to compartmentalize the thought process, espousing ideas that are in absolute conflict. To me Carson's like a vegan butcher.  Honestly, that kind of mind probably could self-justify almost anything.

Sure.  Maybe, in his professional role, he is so accustomed to people hanging on his every word, that he is not used to having his credibility questioned, and lying is just a nasty habit with him.   

[ItsOver]

Bernie has passion, is inspiring, and cares for the country. 

It's a shame that it's Hillary's 'turn'.  It's such a shame that at the debate she criticized the restoration of Glass-Steagall, yet she mentioned no specifics about her program.  She almost said 'You'll love it!  It'll be great!'  Ugh.

It's all about Hillary, not the country.

[albrecht]

Some of the Trump stuff still has me worried that he is stalking horse for Billary. I like the antics. I like his shaking up stuff. I like him criticizing illegals, the paid-for political system, etc. But some of this stuff recently, that is after the most recent Muslim Paris attacks to go with the "gun" stuff instead of the "refugee" or Muslim stuff? Or immigration, and what it did to France? A bit crazy. (And I'm a total supporter for gun ownership and rights, but still.)

[Rix Gins]

Some of the Trump stuff still has me worried that he is stalking horse for Billary. I like the antics. I like his shaking up stuff. I like him criticizing illegals, the paid-for political system, etc. But some of this stuff recently, that is after the most recent Muslim Paris attacks to go with the "gun" stuff instead of the "refugee" or Muslim stuff? Or immigration, and what it did to France? A bit crazy. (And I'm a total supporter for gun ownership and rights, but still.)

I'm all for the guy making it to the primaries.  Hopefully he can keep the momentum going and perhaps pick up some advisers who can fine tune him to utter less offensive or controversial comments.  Otherwise its just a matter of time before he says something that pisses everyone off. 

[albrecht]

I'm all for the guy making it to the primaries.  Hopefully he can keep the momentum going and perhaps pick up some advisers who can fine tune him to utter less offensive or controversial comments.  Otherwise its just a matter of time before he says something that pisses everyone off.

I've just always had a gut-feeling that he is a stalking-horse for Billary. Even when he isn't saying something inflammatory or 'crazy' but right and correct I get this feeling. I never watched his shows, and know he is a showman but still. Something seems 'off' like a perfect setup for implosion and then Republican Party in shambles, a large segment doesn't show up to vote, and Billary is elected because, despite her crimes, allegations, scandals, or opponents she has already been selected and the Democrats will always unify as a cadre in the final election and the minority population, for whatever reason, will vote D even if they don't improve, or even hurt, them by policy.

[CornyCrow]

I'm all for the guy making it to the primaries.  Hopefully he can keep the momentum going and perhaps pick up some advisers who can fine tune him to utter less offensive or controversial comments.  Otherwise its just a matter of time before he says something that pisses everyone off.

I don't know how others feel, but I think that outwardly, Trump may sound a bit crazed, but at his core he's a shrewd guy and might be trusted to make well thought out decisions.  On the other hand, some of the other candidates seem outwardly stable, but have core beliefs that are just crazy, and so they cannot be trusted to use sound judgment.

[albrecht]

I don't know how others feel, but I think that outwardly, Trump may sound a bit crazed, but at his core he's a shrewd guy and might be trusted to make well thought out decisions.  On the other hand, some of the other candidates seem outwardly stable, but have core beliefs that are just crazy, and so they cannot be trusted to use sound judgment.

An interesting observation.

[CornyCrow]

An interesting observation.

Merci.

[VtaGeezer]

I don't know how others feel, but I think that outwardly, Trump may sound a bit crazed, but at his core he's a shrewd guy and might be trusted to make well thought out decisions.  On the other hand, some of the other candidates seem outwardly stable, but have core beliefs that are just crazy, and so they cannot be trusted to use sound judgment.

Trump has a practical mind and a world class rolodex, but also has character problems that have been scrupulously avoided but certainly will be raised when the chips are down; ruthless, multiple marriages, ungenerous, a fraud (Trump University), manipulative...and I suspect we have yet to hear of his non-financial Miss Universe exploits.

[FightTheFuture]

Trump has a practical mind and a world class rolodex, but also has character problems that have been scrupulously avoided but certainly will be raised when the chips are down; ruthless, multiple marriages, ungenerous, a fraud (Trump University), manipulative...and I suspect we have yet to hear of his non-financial Miss Universe exploits.

I`m positively fascinated at the fact of Trump leading in the polls. I know why this is happening, but it`s something else to witness it.

[VtaGeezer]

I`m positively fascinated at the fact of Trump leading in the polls. I know why this is happening, but it`s something else to witness it.

I see Trump's rise as like the '08 crash.  All the signs were clear if you were looking.  Trump as President?  We were warned...remember all the talk about the "dumbing of America"?  It's here.

[Eddie Coyle]

   Jimmy Carter loves to paint a narrative of his loss being strictly due to the Iranian Hostage crisis, while ignoring the energy crisis, the inflation rate being 15% on Election Day '80, opposed to 4% on Election Day '76...and the thing he never mentions- HIS refugee crisis.

   The Republicans exploited Carter's handling of the Freedom Flotillas, a crisis so ineptly handled that fellow Dems like Bill Clinton(stuck with detention center riots in May-June '80) were livid with him.

   I wonder if Obama's Syrian Refugee plan will have the same effect. It seems to have real potential to...

[berry]

Like it or not, Hillary will be the next president.

This thread is done.

I think,unfortunately,you are correct.

[VtaGeezer]

   Jimmy Carter loves to paint a narrative of his loss being strictly due to the Iranian Hostage crisis, while ignoring the energy crisis, the inflation rate being 15% on Election Day '80, opposed to 4% on Election Day '76...and the thing he never mentions- HIS refugee crisis.

   The Republicans exploited Carter's handling of the Freedom Flotillas, a crisis so ineptly handled that fellow Dems like Bill Clinton(stuck with detention center riots in May-June '80) were livid with him.

   I wonder if Obama's Syrian Refugee plan will have the same effect. It seems to have real potential to...

In 2020, Obama will envy Carter's reputation.

[Eddie Coyle]

In 2020, Obama will envy Carter's reputation.

  Certainly heading that way. I can't imagine Obama building houses in his post-Presidency, either.

[ItsOver]

  Certainly heading that way. I can't imagine Obama building houses in his post-Presidency, either.

Only if they're self-constructed, with Bravo Sierra.

[Eddie Coyle]

Only if they're self-constructed, with Bravo Sierra.

   "You didn't build that house"

[ItsOver]

   "You didn't build that house"

Ha!  Good one, Eddie.

[Eddie Coyle]

Ha!  Good one, Eddie.

   He provides the batting practice fastballs. With the wind blowing out to right at 50MPH. With a short porch. In Colorado.

[CornyCrow]

Trump has a practical mind and a world class rolodex, but also has character problems that have been scrupulously avoided but certainly will be raised when the chips are down; ruthless, multiple marriages, ungenerous, a fraud (Trump University), manipulative...and I suspect we have yet to hear of his non-financial Miss Universe exploits.

Yes, I'm not making excuses for him.  I think he 'knows himself' better than his competitors.  I believe Hillary will win, but she is testing (so I've heard) very low on the honesty index, even with fellow Democrats.  What a sorry mess are our elections.   

[21st Century Man]

   Jimmy Carter loves to paint a narrative of his loss being strictly due to the Iranian Hostage crisis, while ignoring the energy crisis, the inflation rate being 15% on Election Day '80, opposed to 4% on Election Day '76...and the thing he never mentions- HIS refugee crisis.

   The Republicans exploited Carter's handling of the Freedom Flotillas, a crisis so ineptly handled that fellow Dems like Bill Clinton(stuck with detention center riots in May-June '80) were livid with him.

   I wonder if Obama's Syrian Refugee plan will have the same effect. It seems to have real potential to...

Remember the misery index?  Whatever happened with that stat?  I'd like to know what the misery index is under Obama. Off the charts.  I was 14 years old during that election. I watched the Democratic convention and boy was that a mess. I remember Carter's tenure as president and while I like him as a person, he was the worst president of my lifetime until Obama usurped him.  Both of them are completely incompetent.  I was pretty much a Republican by the time I was 6 but Carter and Reagan's tenure cemented my status. I'm embarrassed by the old guard leaders still trying to rule the roost. I  refer myself as more of a Constitutionalist today more than a Republican due to the feckless leadership in the Republican Party.

[21st Century Man]

Hillary is yesterday's news.  She's past her expiration date. I'm not sure who is going to win the Republican nomination but whoever it is he/she will beat her.

[FightTheFuture]

I see Trump's rise as like the '08 crash.  All the signs were clear if you were looking.  Trump as President?  We were warned...remember all the talk about the "dumbing of America"?  It's here.

I'm thinking it's equal parts: dumbing, exasperation, and desperation.

[CornyCrow]

Hillary is yesterday's news.  She's past her expiration date. I'm not sure who is going to win the Republican nomination but whoever it is he/she will beat her.

Wish you were right, 21, but I strongly doubt it. 
If women had not been marginalized for so long in this country, Hillary probably would not have the support that she now has and you'd be right.  But she'll win and we'll probably have 8 more years of the same old, same old.  l could not vote for an anti-abortion person and I could not vote for someone who believes pollution is not a problem.  That sticks me in with the Democrats, while holding my nose. 

[mikuthing01]

Obama just came out in support of Trump

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/17/obama-says-gun-control-be-top-issue-final-year/

[chefist]

Obama just came out in support of Trump

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/17/obama-says-gun-control-be-top-issue-final-year/

Gun control is always a loser for the Dems...if his ego pushes this policy, many of the Dem candidates and perhaps the party will revolt...it might just be lip service to the base...