The 2 Most Convincing Alien Abduction Stories

[sam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiNvxty3zfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmxuHBF6yo

[Brody]

Allagash Abduction

[=Schlyder=]

 The Travis Walton, and the Betty and Barney Hill abductions.

[ksm32]

Allagash Abduction

Yeah, that's as strong as the Walton case. Perhaps it deserves a movie..    Or perhaps Art? I don't believe Art has ever talked to any of them.  Their certainly not shy about talking.

aliens are assholes

[paladin1991]

Yeah, that's as strong as the Walton case. Perhaps it deserves a movie..    Or perhaps Art? I don't believe Art has ever talked to any of them.  Their certainly not shy about talking.

aliens are assholes

According to some, aliens are deeeep into assholes.

[ksm32]

According to some, aliens are deeeep into assholes.

Grey's! Not Browns.

[coaster]

Also according to some, people were paid off to lie about the Walton and Co lie detector results. Still a cool story and the movie was pretty damn spooky.

[Brody]

Allagash Abduction

I just read that one of the men doesn't believe they were abducted, meanwhile another claims to have had an implant surgically removed and when it was sent away to be tested the department of defense intercepted it.

[FightTheFuture]

Betty and Barney Hill. Without question.

[paladin1991]

Grey's! Not Browns.

What?  Nobody is talking about illegal aliens.    Well, technically, I guess we are, cuz I will bet you a donut that those evil grey bastards don't have no passports or visas or nuthin'

[Uncle Duke]

Betty and Barney Hill. Without question.

I'm with you.  If I believe anyone has ever actually been abducted, it's the Hills. Now I think there are a lot of people who honestly believe they were abducted, but many of them had that idea planted during hypnotic regression.  And yes, I know the Hill's story came out using that process, but there was no precedent for such incidents before their encounter.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

What?  Nobody is talking about illegal aliens.    Well, technically, I guess we are, cuz I will bet you a donut that those evil grey bastards don't have no passports or visas or nuthin'

If an alien is on his home planet, is he still an alien?

[UnscreenedCaller]

Betty and Barney Hill, because as Uncle Duke said, there was no precedent for their story which makes it fresh territory. Reading the transcript of the tapes is chilling, Barney's fear comes through sounding authentic, literally hair raising. When they had their experience, the more usual alien in science fiction films or tv was tentacled or monstrous, nothing whatsoever like the little black eyed grays, now iconic. I made a detour on vacation to drive down that highway in New Hampshire. It's a lonely road at night, very dark, not much in the way of even road lights. I have to admit, it made riding down there in the night pretty scary, checking the rear view mirror every couple of minutes until we hit a town.

[albrecht]

I'm not saying I believe them but enjoying hearing about them and/or think "they" think they were abducted (though the more conventions, films, and interviews Walton is giving now is raising some eyebrows for me.) B&B Hill is the most convincing to me.

I would also mention Dr. Karla Turner though it has been a long time since I've heard her stuff. (And apparently she is now dead, RIP.)

[Uncle Duke]

Betty and Barney Hill, because as Uncle Duke said, there was no precedent for their story which makes it fresh territory. Reading the transcript of the tapes is chilling, Barney's fear comes through sounding authentic, literally hair raising. When they had their experience, the more usual alien in science fiction films or tv was tentacled or monstrous, nothing whatsoever like the little black eyed grays, now iconic. I made a detour on vacation to drive down that highway in New Hampshire. It's a lonely road at night, very dark, not much in the way of even road lights. I have to admit, it made riding down there in the night pretty scary, checking the rear view mirror every couple of minutes until we hit a town.

I think it goes one step beyond that.  In the 50s there were those who were called "contactees", humans who talked about meeting and communicating with alien space brothers who came to Earth to spread a peaceful, positive message.  These people got a lot of press.  The one whose books I remember reading as a youngster was George Adamski, but there were others.  I have no idea if the Hills knew about contactees, but the aliens who abducted and terrified them were far further removed from Adamaski's peaceful aliens than they were the tentacled/monstorous beings in the sci fi flicks of the early 50s.  To my mind that makes the scope of their precedent breaking story even more significant.


As for Travis Walton, I've never really followed his story all that closely.  Albrect mentioned he's now doing more conventions/films/interviews.  Is his story changing or expanding?

[albrecht]

I think it goes one step beyond that.  In the 50s there were those who were called "contactees", humans who talked about meeting and communicating with alien space brothers who came to Earth to spread a peaceful, positive message.  These people got a lot of press.  The one whose books I remember reading as a youngster was George Adamski, but there were others.  I have no idea if the Hills knew about contactees, but the aliens who abducted and terrified them were far further removed from Adamaski's peaceful aliens than they were the tentacled/monstorous beings in the sci fi flicks of the early 50s.  To my mind that makes the scope of their precedent breaking story even more significant.


As for Travis Walton, I've never really followed his story all that closely.  Albrect mentioned he's now doing more conventions/films/interviews.  Is his story changing or expanding?

I will be honest and consider most of this UFO etc stuff as entertainment. I believe in UFOs- but simply factually as unidentified! Mirage? Sun-dog? Secret military plane? Hallucination? Ball-lightening? Or even Alien? Whatever they are, it is still interesting. Actually find it MORE interesting when a strange physical phenomena, human brain/perception, etc can explain it.

But I'm also the guy that actually likes to listening to the crazy homeless guys rant about conspiracies, and give em a buck for a beer, or watch a tent rival preacher foaming-at-the-mouth on community access tv. Don't believe it a whit, but always appreciate passion, dedication, and ways a mind works (or doesn't,) and also how people react/believe to it. I don't like when it seems to be outright frauds for money-making from people who don't have it (a homeless guy likely isn't,) though I laugh and don't mind the Scientologists taking millions from Hollywood (though a problem with their tax-exempt status for sure.)

I won't claim or defame him but I've just noticed that now Walton seems to be doing more "stuff." And now he says, at least from what I can gather, that the experience was good now but before it wasn't. I could be wrong. I haven't revisited all the older interviews etc.

[Uncle Duke]

I will be honest and consider most of this UFO etc stuff as entertainment. I believe in UFOs- but simply factually as unidentified! Mirage? Sun-dog? Secret military plane? Hallucination? Ball-lightening? Or even Alien? Whatever they are, it is still interesting. Actually find it MORE interesting when a strange physical phenomena, human brain/perception, etc can explain it.

But I'm also the guy that actually likes to listening to the crazy homeless guys rant about conspiracies, and give em a buck for a beer, or watch a tent rival preacher foaming-at-the-mouth on community access tv. Don't believe it a whit, but always appreciate passion, dedication, and ways a mind works (or doesn't,) and also how people react/believe to it. I don't like when it seems to be outright frauds for money-making from people who don't have it (a homeless guy likely isn't,) though I laugh and don't mind the Scientologists taking millions from Hollywood (though a problem with their tax-exempt status for sure.)

I won't claim or defame him but I've just noticed that now Walton seems to be doing more "stuff." And now he says, at least from what I can gather, that the experience was good now but before it wasn't. I could be wrong. I haven't revisited all the older interviews etc.

I'm a hardware guy, the vast majority of these abductee/contactee/experiencer cases I don't have any interest in.  What I do find interesting is the number of folks who present at these UFO conferences who tend toward "story creep".  It's almost like they understand if they don't grow their story as time goes on, they will become yesterday's news.  Best example of this to my mind is Jim Penniston, the former USAF NCO who remembered almost thirty years after the fact that he'd received a "binary code" message after touching the object seen in Rendelsham Forest in 1980.  Ironically, that's about the same time he started showing up at UFO conventions and giving interviews.  Frankly it pisses me off the best UFO case in my lifetime is brought into ridicule because some former three stripper decides three decades later to make a few bucks off the gullible and ignorant.

[albrecht]

I'm a hardware guy, the vast majority of these abductee/contactee/experiencer cases I don't have any interest in.  What I do find interesting is the number of folks who present at these UFO conferences who tend toward "story creep".  It's almost like they understand if they don't grow their story as time goes on, they will become yesterday's news.  Best example of this to my mind is Jim Penniston, the former USAF NCO who remembered almost thirty years after the fact that he'd received a "binary code" message after touching the object seen in Rendelsham Forest in 1980.  Ironically, that's about the same time he started showing up at UFO conventions and giving interviews.  Frankly it pisses me off the best UFO case in my lifetime is brought into ridicule because some former three stripper decides three decades later to make a few bucks off the gullible and ignorant.

I see your point. Honestly, I haven't listened with much attention to know many "changes" but so only a sense that I seem to hear Walton doing "more stuff" now recently. So I question. I understand your idea, and think, it happens, how "more" happens, oddly to stories as time goes by. Won't cast aspersions but I recall the "binary" stuff also and the more recent Travis stuff seems similar. Sure, people will "recall" stuff as they age. New revelations, and recollections. And I've had relatives who in dotterage, dementia start telling more "truths" or just remembering stuff from older times that wasn't said but now their "babbling" brings out. But also, as time goes by, previous memories also get reformed, misremembered, embellished over time (not even for lying but just "fish"(or sex) stories getting a little better over time in telling, etc. Even in totally honest people or of mundane events. Actually "witnesses" -even in especially mundane things like car accidents- are notoriously unreliable with regard to actual events and identification- why police interview multiple witnesses, lawyers argue, etc.