The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Yes it was a gift from a relative, hoping to nurture my techie ways.  It's got stats in there, algebraic solving, calculus stuff, complex numbers, friggin matrices.  And it has a primitive programming function with stacks and instructions etc.  They sell for alot on ebay, still in demand thirty years later.

You bet, plus the ppl that want one know how to use them and don't have to learn a new layout. My 36 has exclusive OR, Binary, Octal, Hex, Decimal, Radians, Gradients, Statistical (2 different), Hyperblocks, Probability, Engineering notation, plus all your standard log, algebraic, and root functions. I even has a quick ' Bang ' operator.

[=Schlyder=]

LOL  listening to Hoagie's crazy predictions about Bernie is gold  LOL

[akwilly]

LOL  listening to Hoagie's crazy predictions about Bernie is gold  LOL

yep

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I recall there was a bug in some version of Windows calculator right?  Some rounding error or such but it was so ubiquitous that it caused real problems from people like engineers & accountants using it.  It's one of those things you'd just assume was always right but never check haha.

I remember that error, and that's why when an answer doesn't look right, I check it by hand.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

LOL  listening to Hoagie's crazy predictions about Bernie is gold  LOL

Heh, heh, heh.

Who says Fred doesn't have a sense of humor.

[=Schlyder=]

LOL hoagie and the phone.

[akwilly]

Hahaha the phone keeps ringing

[akwilly]

Anyone know who the phone guy was?

[comaphobe]

We had one like this at school:


It was a Battle Royal to see who got to use it during class. No shit, knock down drag outs. DETENTION !  - LOL

looks half PS3 and half delorian

[comaphobe]

LOL  phone braaaps

the goof could have turned the ringer off. how many shows had phone braaps throughout the whole show? a lot.

[=Schlyder=]

LOL Darren and his delusional BS. Clinton is the one who will start wwIII

[theONE]

I recall there was a bug in some version of Windows calculator right?  Some rounding error or such but it was so ubiquitous that it caused real problems from people like engineers & accountants using it.  It's one of those things you'd just assume was always right but never check haha.

OK,..I'm going to post here the whole article because this is quite serious -and some of the guys here are blind to the facts of real life !!
{on top of that I just opened second bottle of METAXA -so I'm good to go }

"This Texas Instruments Calculator Can't Calculate Correctly"
https://consumerist.com/2011/09/29/this-texas-instruments-calculator-cant-calculate-correctly/

There’s a basic assumption that consumers have about calculators: that you put numbers in, and the calculator spits answers out.
Correct answers. Accurate answers. In the case of the Texas Instruments scientific calculator that John bought recently,
he tells Consumerist that this is a false assumption.
As false as the answers it gave him for the area of a circle.
He writes:

Texas Instruments believes its new TI-36X PRO calculators are not defective for returning incorrect answers,
and will not honor their warranty.
Who would expect a calculator to actually calculate correctly? If the calculations are important they suggest using a different calculator
to verify the results.
I bought the new TI-36X PRO in July at an office supply store, and in August while calculating the area of a circle I discovered
the calculator was returning significant incorrect answers.
Easy to miss, unless you’re really paying attention and know what your doing.
Returning wasn’t an option, since I was past the 30 day return window.
In August, I contacted Texas Instruments at both, 1-800-TI-CARES & TI Tech support 972-917-8324.

Both confirmed the error, and both sent a report up to the developers to fix.
I was surprised that even though the calculator was defective, they would not honor the warranty.
They wouldn’t send me a equivalent non-defective calculator or issue a refund.
The representative I talked with said they will decide if they will have recall, but that it probably won’t happen until enough people
call in to complain about the errors.

I personally worry about the students getting dinged on homework and tests because of the calculation errors.
Hopefully there are no NASA scientists using this calculator or any engineers whose calculations could put a life at risk.

I have since learned that this calculator was introduced in 2010 in Europe as the TI-30X PRO, and was recalled shortly after,
for different calculation errors. They reintroduced it, and brought it to the US as the TI-36 PRO, but it still contains serious software bugs.
The previous version the TI-30X IIS had a recall because of incorrect results also. See a pattern here?
In closing, I just wanted to put the word out to warn students/professionals to be beware of this defective calculator,
and know that the Texas Instruments warranty is worthless.
Feel free to contact me anytime. Keep up the good work consumerist!


Students who bought shiny new calculators at the beginning of the school year, consider yourselves warned,
and be sure to call Texas Instruments if you notice any errors. Your computer should have a scientific calculator as an application,
and your smartphone also might have one.

Call Texas Instruments yourself if you notice any discrepancies between calculators.
Or use this as an excuse for your poor math grades.
But we recommend the “be warned and double-check your work” thing.

[zeebo]

I remember that error, and that's why when an answer doesn't look right, I check it by hand.

Do they still teach that anywhere haha?      I usually take the hacker's approach ... just keep banging on it till it gives the right answer. 

[zeebo]

looks half PS3 and half delorian

I think there's a nintendo controller in there too.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Do they still teach that anywhere haha?      I usually take the hacker's approach ... just keep banging on it till it gives the right answer.

LOL -I just missed having to memorize log tables in high school. Did it anyway. I think that error instilled my first distrust of automation. 
It has served me well.

(I take the bang approach sometimes too )     

*friggen whitespace  :

[=Schlyder=]

braaaaps

[zeebo]

LOL  listening to Hoagie's crazy predictions about Bernie is gold  LOL

I remember that show veering off into some goofy political tangent, not the goofy stuff I usually listen to that guest for.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

looks half PS3 and half delorian

Yup, sleek and sexy. 

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I remember that show veering off into some goofy political tangent, not the goofy stuff I usually listen to that guest for.

I've been kicking it off and on. All billary / trump / bernie, with a little JFK thrown in for good measure.
All politics.  Blech. 

[zeebo]

Funny you mention it.  That thread was great, then Art did DM.  ...  I would imagine it is great for new posters who arrive and want to rant and decompress- but I'm done.  Dave sucks- but I just don't care anymore.

Yeah it took me a while, but eventually I got it out of my system.  I've become somewhat philosophical after the collective disappointments of Art's bailing, Noory sticking around, and Hoagie losing his way altogether.

[akwilly]

I've been kicking it off and on. All billary / trump / bernie, with a little JFK thrown in for good measure.
All politics.  Blech. 

dang election can't get over soon enough. It's freakin hockey and football season!!

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm      - Good thing I have a 36x Scientific instead of the cheapie 36 Pro.   :

[zeebo]

...All politics.  Blech. 

I've decided to tune out politics till 100 days after the inauguration.  I'm hoping once the two-year election spasm is over, we may actually get to hear about some real issues.   :

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Yeah it took me a while, but eventually I got it out of my system.  I've become somewhat philosophical after the collective disappointments of Art's bailing, Noory sticking around, and Hoagie losing his way altogether.

Yup.
No matter how long Dave endures, I still can't listen to him though. 

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

dang election can't get over soon enough. It's freakin hockey and football season!!

+19.5     (And I'm not even heavy into watching sports. )

[zeebo]

Ok nite all.  Don't forget to M+ that 19.5 into your calculator.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I've decided to tune out politics till 100 days after the inauguration.  I'm hoping once the two-year election spasm is over, we may actually get to hear about some real issues.   :

http://disinfo.com/

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Ok nite all.  Don't forget to M+ that 19.5 into your calculator.

Have a good one zeebo...   and everyone else.

[theONE]

Yeah it took me a while, but eventually I got it out of my system.  I've become somewhat philosophical after the collective disappointments of Art's bailing, Noory sticking around, and Hoagie losing his way altogether.

George Noory is like a piece of shit -once you wipe your ass it sticks to the wiping material.
George Noory is Very reliable as both items - as a ass wiper, or as a piece of shit to be wiped off your ass.

George Noory is like a dual citizen - George is a piece of intellectual shit -or- George is a piece of toilet paper
used to wipe that shit off.

That guy /George Noory/ is a McfuckingDonald's of radio...

[Unquenchable Angst]

Just when you think Noory can't go down in depth he surprizes you with a "Marianas Trench" dive.