The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[albrecht]

Yes. https://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2015/06/richard-hoaglands-incredible-arrogance.html

Ha, transcribing some of the testiness. I guess Howard is the only show that will still having him, even when he whines and bitches. My favorite RCH theory is a relatively modern one: something to do with Obama being given a carrot by the Chinese ambassador and the Chinese mission being named Jade Rabbit (and there was some Pope connection I recall?) It was bizarre. He went on about it before he quit/fired from C2C I think but I never was quite clear on what the symbolizing/theory was.

[zeebo]

Ha, transcribing some of the testiness. I guess Howard is the only show that will still having him, even when he whines and bitches. My favorite RCH theory is a relatively modern one: something to do with Obama being given a carrot by the Chinese ambassador and the Chinese mission being named Jade Rabbit (and there was some Pope connection I recall?) It was bizarre. He went on about it before he quit/fired from C2C I think but I never was quite clear on what the symbolizing/theory was.

Yes that was a good one.  It was part of his 'slow disclosure' theory, that they can't come out explicitly, so they give these cryptic clues that only Hoagie and crew can interpret properly. 

[expat]

Ha, transcribing some of the testiness. I guess Howard is the only show that will still having him, even when he whines and bitches. My favorite RCH theory is a relatively modern one: something to do with Obama being given a carrot by the Chinese ambassador and the Chinese mission being named Jade Rabbit (and there was some Pope connection I recall?) It was bizarre. He went on about it before he quit/fired from C2C I think but I never was quite clear on what the symbolizing/theory was.

Here's the carrot story:
https://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2014/04/i-have-dream-today.html

[expat]

Well, now I'm thoroughly disgusted with Hoagland playing his game "My critics won't LOOK at the data." In December 2013 I sent him this e-mail:

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I have looked at your data on the skull-like rock in crater Shorty and I have shown that your image is fraudulent.

I have looked at your data on the orbit of Explorer 1 and I have shown that your calculation is so catastrophically wrong that there is no hope of resurrecting your proposition. IT'S DEAD. Please withdraw it. Dr Derek Eunson also concurs.

I have looked at your data on the Ritual Alignment Model. Many times. I have told you that I would like to try and confirm or falsify this idea. I asked you two key questions and you refuse to answer.

I have looked at your data on glass domes on the Moon. As you know, I falsified your proposition yesterday. Other similar claims of yours are easily attributable to contamination of your scanner glass.

I have looked at your data on what you call prisms showing in Apollo 17 images. I have already told you you are mistaken. The gnomon patches are not red/green/blue but orange/green/blue.

I have looked at your statement about the latitude of the Port-au-Prince earthquake, and I have shown that it was a lie.

I have looked at your data on the Gulf Oil tragedy of 2010 and I have shown that you lied again.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of Phobos and I showed that your proposition was highly improbable. People with much more expertise than either of us then falsified it.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of comet Hartley-2 and found it has no credibility.

Likewise Tempel-1.

I have looked at what you humorously call your "data" (actually Judy Wood's "data") on the dustification of the WTC and found it is so far from credible it wouldn't even make a decent Sci-Fi story. It's pathetic, Richard.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of Vesta and I showed that your proposition was highly improbable.

I have looked at your pseudo-statistical analysis of C/2010 X1 (Elenin) and showed beyond doubt that your analysis was seriously flawed, leading to divide-by-zero errors and other absurdities. Dr Stuart Robbins has also falsified your reasoning. Dr Derek Eunson also concurs.

I have looked at your data on YU55 and shown that it is mistaken.

I have reviewed your prediction for Phobos-Grunt and found it to be worthless.

I have looked at your data on lunar atmospheric pressure and found that you totally misunderstood your sources.

I have looked at your data on the 40-year-old Accutron. Many times. Seeking to confirm or falsify your "results," I have asked you a number of questions about this. You have refused to answer. Dr Robbins has also reviewed your protocol critically.

I have looked at your data (such as it is) on the so-called ziggurat on the Moon and I find your proposition has no credibility. Dr Robbins has criticized your work and that of Mike Bara in exhaustive detail.

I have looked at your data on the strength of lunar construction glass, and found that you committed the cardinal sin of citing a paper in a science journal that does not in fact support your proposition. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED OF, RICHARD.

[Dyna-X]

Well, that went fast. I was hoping he would get more into the book rather than a historical rehash, but thats how the cookie crumbles.

[ShayP]

Well, now I'm thoroughly disgusted with Hoagland playing his game "My critics won't LOOK at the data." In December 2013 I sent him this e-mail:

================================

I have looked at your data on the skull-like rock in crater Shorty and I have shown that your image is fraudulent.

I have looked at your data on the orbit of Explorer 1 and I have shown that your calculation is so catastrophically wrong that there is no hope of resurrecting your proposition. IT'S DEAD. Please withdraw it. Dr Derek Eunson also concurs.

I have looked at your data on the Ritual Alignment Model. Many times. I have told you that I would like to try and confirm or falsify this idea. I asked you two key questions and you refuse to answer.

I have looked at your data on glass domes on the Moon. As you know, I falsified your proposition yesterday. Other similar claims of yours are easily attributable to contamination of your scanner glass.

I have looked at your data on what you call prisms showing in Apollo 17 images. I have already told you you are mistaken. The gnomon patches are not red/green/blue but orange/green/blue.

I have looked at your statement about the latitude of the Port-au-Prince earthquake, and I have shown that it was a lie.

I have looked at your data on the Gulf Oil tragedy of 2010 and I have shown that you lied again.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of Phobos and I showed that your proposition was highly improbable. People with much more expertise than either of us then falsified it.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of comet Hartley-2 and found it has no credibility.

Likewise Tempel-1.

I have looked at what you humorously call your "data" (actually Judy Wood's "data") on the dustification of the WTC and found it is so far from credible it wouldn't even make a decent Sci-Fi story. It's pathetic, Richard.

I have looked at your data on the artificiality of Vesta and I showed that your proposition was highly improbable.

I have looked at your pseudo-statistical analysis of C/2010 X1 (Elenin) and showed beyond doubt that your analysis was seriously flawed, leading to divide-by-zero errors and other absurdities. Dr Stuart Robbins has also falsified your reasoning. Dr Derek Eunson also concurs.

I have looked at your data on YU55 and shown that it is mistaken.

I have reviewed your prediction for Phobos-Grunt and found it to be worthless.

I have looked at your data on lunar atmospheric pressure and found that you totally misunderstood your sources.

I have looked at your data on the 40-year-old Accutron. Many times. Seeking to confirm or falsify your "results," I have asked you a number of questions about this. You have refused to answer. Dr Robbins has also reviewed your protocol critically.

I have looked at your data (such as it is) on the so-called ziggurat on the Moon and I find your proposition has no credibility. Dr Robbins has criticized your work and that of Mike Bara in exhaustive detail.

I have looked at your data on the strength of lunar construction glass, and found that you committed the cardinal sin of citing a paper in a science journal that does not in fact support your proposition. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED OF, RICHARD.

Did ever Hoagie respond...at all?  I doubt it.  It still boggles the mind how that man cannot accept when he is wrong. 

[albrecht]

Here's the carrot story:
https://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2014/04/i-have-dream-today.html

Ha. What a crack-pot! But he can come up with some real humdingers. I wonder if he is compiling his soon-to-be greatest, lifetime accomplishment book in some jail cell somewhere? He seems to be absent from his radio show and other venues, including various "expos," "cruises," and "big events."

[Dyna-X]

Could 20 planetary scientists in a room explain this?

[Morgus]

Is the Hoagie interview over now?
I still hear Howard Hughes on live, but is it just open lines callers now?

[ShayP]

What other "gift" is Hoagie going to give to his loyal club members?

[albrecht]

Could 20 planetary scientists in a room explain this?

Clearly it is some kind of seal, like one used to put on royal proclamations or Papal bulls in wax from their signet ring. Likely related to some minor angel and the Apocalypse. Be warned when it breaks, what is to follow.

[albrecht]

What other "gift" is Hoagie going to give to his loyal club members?

I'm thinking identity theft or some kind of billing "errors."

[ShayP]

Clearly it is some kind of seal, like one used to put on royal proclamations or Papal bulls in wax from their signet ring. Likely related to some minor angel and the Apocalypse. Be warned when it breaks, what is to follow.

[ShayP]

I'm thinking identity theft or some kind of billing "errors."

Hahahahahaha!!!!!

[GravitySucks]

What other "gift" is Hoagie going to give to his loyal club members?

https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4

[zeebo]

Could 20 planetary scientists in a room explain this?

It must be an alphabetical letter, it's got an "umlaut" to the top left of it.   

[starrmtn001]

It must be an alphabetical letter, it's got an "umlaut" to the top left of it.   

Hey, Zeebo, my squirrely compatriot, are you going to join us in the Knappsters' Thread tonight?

[albrecht]

It must be an alphabetical letter, it's got an "umlaut" to the top left of it.   

Confirmed "Nordic," or some heavy metal or 'hair' band's, seal. Either way obviously a seal and when it is broken- be warned.

[starrmtn001]

Could 20 planetary scientists in a room explain this?

A shopping complex in the middle of the desert?

[Jackstar]

A shopping complex in the middle of the desert?

PLOT TWIST: Actually smaller on the inside. But yuge savings!!!

[ItsOver]

I'm thinking identity theft or some kind of billing "errors."

Ha!  Lots of unexplainable $19.50 charges.

[pate]

Braaaps

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUgusew2Isk
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ediotm;  mmm!

TwitMmm:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvl0MDXH96M

3rdediotPnP: mmm?

[expat]

Assessment of last night's Howard Hughes interview:
Richard Hoagland comes up worse than empty

[PaulAtreides]

Assessment of last night's Howard Hughes interview:
Richard Hoagland comes up worse than empty

It was total bullshit.  RCH was even waffling on the publication date for his book.  That means it's not finished and/or he can't find a publisher.  This was just a 90 minute teaser to get 19.5 memberships. 

[expat]

It was total bullshit.

That.

[starrmtn001]

It was total bullshit.  RCH was even waffling on the publication date for his book.  That means it's not finished and/or he can't find a publisher.  This was just a 90 minute teaser to get 19.5 memberships.

Wait, he was live last night?  Well.  SonOfABitch.

[expat]

Wait, he was live last night?  Well.  SonOfABitch.

Yes, but not on OSOM.

[starrmtn001]

Yes, but not on OSOM.

Well.  There ya go then.

I come here to chat with my fellow BellGabbers not, necessarily, to listen to RCH.  Doesn't sound like I missed much anyway.

[trostol]

Well.  There ya go then.

I come here to chat with my fellow BellGabbers not, necessarily, to listen to RCH.  Doesn't sound like I missed much anyway.

one never does when RCH is on

[Alan Almasen]

Hi everyone I'm new here it's my first post. I found out about bellgab from one of art bell show. I decited to check it out and ohh my, this place is a goldmine. Quick question. Does anyone know what happend to the othersideofmidnight with Richard C H. I listen every night for the last 3 weeks since I found it and it's not live .. they are showes from long ago. Thank you.