The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[K_Dubb]

Oh, that looks great, K.  Thank you.  By all means, we could be looking at a fossilized sea star, or one that is de-hydrated and is waiting for the return of one of those ancient Martian oceans that Richard used to speak of.


Sunflower star regenerating several arms.  By Brocken Inaglory, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6618417

That's it!

I sure miss how Hoagie could call up visions of unknown worlds.  I have been thinking about tone lately, and how old-school broadcasters could adopt various onesâ€"confidential, insinuating, whateverâ€"as the case required, almost like trained actors playing characters in a way you don't really hear any more.  That tone Hoagie often used at the beginning and the end of his show, the one you might use with the words "think, for a moment...", doesn't have any name I'm aware of.

Call it imagination-tone.  I'm sure it's the same one he used when talking to kids at his planetarium, since it's very much that of an authority figure taking responsibility for your entertainment for a while.  Even when the rest of the show was current-event nonsense and pointless hectoring, it still felt kind of cushy and comfortable because he started and ended it that way.

[Étouffée]

"Third star to the left, straight on 'till morning".

Pure imagination-tone.

(or was it "on the left"?)

[Zenman]

My God you are right, Rix!  I have taken the liberty of highlighting the creature.  Given its apparent pentameric symmetry, may we not guess at a member of Echinodermata?

Lisa Simpson prototype?

[Jojo]

I'm hoping it'll be MV & Aldous reading the entire GNS thread aloud.

Me too!

[expat]

Replay talking about Hillary's campaign, Hillary's near-collapse... featuring that pretentious twat Robert AM*.  Just what we need, eh?

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

My God you are right, Rix!  I have taken the liberty of highlighting the creature.  Given its apparent pentameric symmetry, may we not guess at a member of Echinodermata?

Hang on K_Dubb, I got it...

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

So the aliens built their space cities out of ice?

Okay, that's a new one.

That's where all the water from Mars went.     

[GravitySucks]

That's where all the water from Mars went.     

If the water all left the atmosphere, wouldn't it still be in the same orbit as Mars, just displaced?

Seems like there would be some spectral analysis that could find it. Maybe the solar wind took it a bit further out, but the molecules don't just disappear. Do they?

[Jackstar]

the molecules don't just disappear. Do they?

... could it be a portal?

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Hey, you guys want paridolia ?  Grab a copy of my current avatar and zoom in on it. I uploaded it at over 100 DPI.

OMG - Did a quick search on the word. Guess what the very first result was - lol   

[GravitySucks]

Hey, you guys want paridolia ?  Grab a copy of my current avatar and zoom in on it. I uploaded it at over 100 DPI.

OMG - Did a quick search on the word. Guess what the very first result was - lol   

Puppy dog playing cymbals or maybe one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles playing the cymbaos.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

If the water all left the atmosphere, wouldn't it still be in the same orbit as Mars, just displaced?

Seems like there would be some spectral analysis that could find it. Maybe the solar wind took it a bit further out, but the molecules don't just disappear. Do they?

Astroguy could probably answer that better than I.   I would think so, unless an extremely powerful force is what ripped away the atmosphere on a tangent to the orbital path. Like maybe the gravitational forces of a large planetary body sailing by - close - at incredible speed ?

Ooo - hang on.  Remember this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rujw-E0kGvQ

[GravitySucks]

Astroguy could probably answer that better than I.   I would think so, unless an extremely powerful force is what ripped away the atmosphere on a tangent to the orbital path. Like maybe the gravitational forces of a large planetary body sailing by - close - at incredible speed ?

Ooo - hang on.  Remember this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rujw-E0kGvQ

Does that explain the whole "firmament" in the bible? (Genesis 1:7)

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Puppy dog playing cymbals or maybe one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles playing the cymbaos.

lol -There's a lot in there, especially at the higher magnifications. 3, 4, 5x. If you move around the picture, magnified, your eye's will really play tricks on you. I used a pattern multiplier that ended up making some seriously funky images. 
I could upload the original, but It's quite large, and I'll probably be using more sections from it. 

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Does that explain the whole "firmament" in the bible? (Genesis 1:7)

Now that's something I always wondered about. I do know that our orbit has changed due to a catastrophic celestial event. There only used to be 360 days in a year up until about 6,000 years ago, if I remember correctly.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Oh, don't forget about the Gap Theory either. 

[GravitySucks]

Now that's something I always wondered about. I do know that our orbit has changed due to a catastrophic celestial event. There only used to be 360 days in a year up until about 6,000 years ago, if I remember correctly.

I have had bible studies that tried to explain that the flood was caused by a deluge from "the waters above the firmament". The first mention of it actually raining in the bible is the Noah flood story.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I have had bible studies that tried to explain that the flood was caused by a deluge from "the waters above the firmament". The first mention of it actually raining in the bible is the Noah flood story.

Yeah, there's been a lot of speculation about this. One of the more plausible theories is that there was a layer of water vapor that constantly surrounded the planet. Never a blue sky. There are also very old legends of a time when there was no moon in the sky.

[GravitySucks]

Yeah, there's been a lot of speculation about this. One of the more plausible theories is that there was a layer of water vapor that constantly surrounded the planet. Never a blue sky. There are also very old legends of a time when there was no moon in the sky.

I chased a rabbit the other night trying to find out when the moon got tidally locked. There actually is an equation for such phenomena. My head hurt before I could figure out if the earth could get tidally locked to the sun.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Got it.  (Good Site IMO)

http://www.halexandria.org/dward200.htm

[GravitySucks]

Got it.  (Good Site IMO)

http://www.halexandria.org/dward200.htm

LOL - Hoagland even gets a mention.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

LOL - Hoagland even gets a mention.

Heh, heh, heh.   

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I chased a rabbit the other night trying to find out when the moon got tidally locked. There actually is an equation for such phenomena. My head hurt before I could figure out if the earth could get tidally locked to the sun.

I chased that rabbit too. It's a rarity, but it apparently does happen. Funny thing though, I could never find any information on a 'Perfect" tidal lock. Most stray after a certain period of time, except for our moon.

[Morgus]

There are also very old legends of a time when there was no moon in the sky.

I recall John Lear on one show said that was true and that the moon was "towed" into Earth's orbit a few thousand years ago...

[trostol]

hey guess what!!!!!!


he's still not back

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgDQz6bmiI

[comaphobe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgDQz6bmiI

[trostol]

[GravitySucks]

[nooryisawesome]

hey guess what!!!!!!


he's still not back

There are probably people who forgot to cancel their subscription.