The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[PaulAtreides]

Hey...I want to know something. When a guest comes on hoaxland's show, they get to yammer on for 3 hours, for an audience exposure of several hundreds (i guess), and then once the show is done, the hoaxer archives it and charges members for monthly access, rakes in the cash, giving the guests absolutely nothing further.  Is this the basic deal?

True, but the guests get to hawk a book, a website or an upcoming appearance.  Or all three.  And in 160 countries. 

[GravitySucks]

Hey...I want to know something. When a guest comes on hoaxland's show, they get to yammer on for 3 hours, for an audience exposure of several hundreds (i guess), and then once the show is done, the hoaxer archives it and charges members for monthly access, rakes in the cash, giving the guests absolutely nothing further.  Is this the basic deal?

No. the show is only two hours long but the guest never gets to yammar for more than about 8 seconds in a row. Unless she is an old white woman. Then she gets maybe 30 seconds between Hmmmmmmmmmms.

[trostol]

Hey...I want to know something. When a guest comes on hoaxland's show, they get to yammer on for 3 hours, for an audience exposure of several hundreds (i guess), and then once the show is done, the hoaxer archives it and charges members for monthly access, rakes in the cash, giving the guests absolutely nothing further.  Is this the basic deal?

2 hours...and i am sure he really isn't raking in much cash

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

yeah seriously..can i get a wee bitty summation?

Here goes trostol... 
Weather warfare exists and treaties have been formed regarding it. It started with cloud seeding (silver nitrate is the most effective agent) and moved on to electromagnetic means...    [/summary]

Enter the Torsion Field Weather Manipulation Wabbit hole...

http://www.newworldwar.org/weatherwar.htm ...

"In November of 1997 the Wall Street Journal reported that in order to dissipate excess fog, the Malaysian government would be signing an agreement with Russian officials for use of technology which would allow them to create a cyclone."

"The US Air Force mentioned that the UN’s weather modification treaty, which prohibits the hostile use of weather modification, is not applicable because their attacks will not be large scale..."  - there are treaties forbidding weather warfare.   Can't find the article right now, but I think it was signed in 1967 or 69. I do remember coming across it though.

"The primary component of HAARP is a radio transmitter called the Ionosphere Research Instrument (IRI),"

"The energy generated by the IRI is combined into a single focused steerable beam that heats and lifts exact portions of the ionosphere."

Pay attention   Raytheon was involved with this. That is important because of Radiosondes. They developed them in the era of Tesla. Research data goes back to 1905. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/weather-balloon/integrated-global-radiosonde-archive
 

Oh, Norland, you might like this... https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Type_45_destroyer That page came up on a keyword search for raytheon and radiosondes, but take a look at the other links too. Don't know if you've seen WikiWand before. It's still a wiki, so trust (or don't trust) it accordingly.

DOD weather programs http://www.ofcm.gov/fedplan/fp-fy09/pdf/3Sec3c-DOD.pdf  - Scan it, sandbox it, and /or open it offline guys - SOP for DLed PDF files. 44 pages.

"In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General Assembly which banned ‘military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects.’ It defined ‘environmental modification techniques’ as ‘any technique for changing â€"through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes â€" the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space."
  "...Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol."   http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-experiments-with-climatic-warfare/7561

Got it...  http://www.un-documents.net/enmod.htm

"At an international symposium held in Ghent, Belgium May 28-30, 2010, scientists asserted that “manipulation of climate through modification of Cirrus clouds is neither a hoax nor a conspiracy theory.” It is “fully operational” with a solid sixty-year history. "  http://www.thebabylonmatrix.com/index.php?title=911:Geophysical_warfare - Check the research links in this article too
The preceeding link also contains:    Powder contrail generation Patent #3,899,144 (PDF Version with images)
and
 

Chemtrails: The List of Patents For Stratospheric Aerial Spraying Programs  http://lechoixdesavoir.blogspot.com/2010/12/brevets-pour-technologie-chemtrails-les.html
http://lechoixdesavoir.blogspot.com/2011/01/declassified-nz-defence-force-reports.html

This one will explain why they deny it... https://politicalvelcraft.org/chemtrails-why/

"“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.” â€" William S. Cohen, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 1997"
https://web.archive.org/web/20061002071247/http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=674 - Fourth answer from bottom
"According to Defense News 13-19 April 1992, the U.S. deployed an electromagnetic pulse weapon in Desert Storm"

"n January 1978, Dr. Puharich issued a detailed research paper entitled “Global Magnetic Warfare: A Layman’s View of Certain Artificially Induced Unusual Effects On The Planet Earth during 1976 and 1977. ...  Of the many great earthquakes of 1976, there is one that demands special attention â€" the July 28, 1976 Tangshan, China earthquake.”
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/2013/01/invisible-warfare-geophysical-weapons-of-the-secret-government/

HAARP: 

"Other ionospheric heaters around the world include a lower-power US facility in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, which has been offline since a flood several years ago (although plans are under way to refurbish it), and one in the Russian city of Vasilsursk, which has struggled with funding issues. HAARP's closest peer is a powerful ionospheric heater at the European Incoherent Scatter (EISCAT) Scientific Association in northern Scandinavia. EISCAT's heater has cost roughly $24 million to build and operate to date, and was the first to create an artificial aurora, even before HAARP."   http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080423/full/452930a.html



HAARP-Cam, no longer active. http://wayback.archive.org/web/20110624130939/http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cam2.html

Resources:
http://presscore.ca/treaty-banned-weather-modification-system-now-being-used-by-the-u-s-to-achieve-geopolitical-objectives
https://climateviewer.com/haarp/
http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/11/01/26/us-military-haarp-facility-exmouthwestern-australia-even-more-advanced-one-alaska

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/haarp/WEATHER.html
https://prof77.wordpress.com/wtf/strange-satellite-image-downloaded-from-austrailian-weather-site/

Lots of evidence for this existing. Now just think if it was admitted to the general populace that we, and others had these weapons. This is a special toy they get to play with and they don't want to lose. Think there might be an outcry leading to it being banned if everyone knew about this ?  We don't need Nukes anymore if we have these type weapons - well, tactical nukes still have a purpose.

But, as with all conspiracy, you have to sift through a lot of pure Bravo Sierra and red herrings to find one or two gems of information that will lead to corroborated facts. 

Addendum: If you have a couple of days, you might want to check this out --> https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2943/text

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[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I see by your avatar that your journey to the Dark Side is now complete.

Have a cookie...     

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Thanks, Logan. Really decent historical overview in this article.

No Problem Doc.
There's just too much good information out there to ignore this subject.

[trostol]

Here goes trostol... 
Weather warfare exists and treaties have been formed regarding it. It started with cloud seeding (silver nitrate is the most effective agent) and moved on to electromagnetic means...    [/summary]

Enter the Torsion Field Weather Manipulation Wabbit hole...

http://www.newworldwar.org/weatherwar.htm ...

"In November of 1997 the Wall Street Journal reported that in order to dissipate excess fog, the Malaysian government would be signing an agreement with Russian officials for use of technology which would allow them to create a cyclone."

"The US Air Force mentioned that the UN’s weather modification treaty, which prohibits the hostile use of weather modification, is not applicable because their attacks will not be large scale..."  - there are treaties forbidding weather warfare.   Can't find the article right now, but I think it was signed in 1967 or 69. I do remember coming across it though.

"The primary component of HAARP is a radio transmitter called the Ionosphere Research Instrument (IRI),"

"The energy generated by the IRI is combined into a single focused steerable beam that heats and lifts exact portions of the ionosphere."

Pay attention   Raytheon was involved with this. That is important because of Radiosondes. They developed them in the era of Tesla. Research data goes back to 1905. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/weather-balloon/integrated-global-radiosonde-archive
 

Oh, Norland, you might like this... https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Type_45_destroyer That page came up on a keyword search for raytheon and radiosondes, but take a look at the other links too. Don't know if you've seen WikiWand before. It's still a wiki, so trust (or don't trust) it accordingly.

DOD weather programs http://www.ofcm.gov/fedplan/fp-fy09/pdf/3Sec3c-DOD.pdf  - Scan it, sandbox it, and /or open it offline guys - SOP for DLed PDF files. 44 pages.

"In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General Assembly which banned ‘military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects.’ It defined ‘environmental modification techniques’ as ‘any technique for changing â€"through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes â€" the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space."
  "...Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol."   http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-experiments-with-climatic-warfare/7561

Got it...  http://www.un-documents.net/enmod.htm

"At an international symposium held in Ghent, Belgium May 28-30, 2010, scientists asserted that “manipulation of climate through modification of Cirrus clouds is neither a hoax nor a conspiracy theory.” It is “fully operational” with a solid sixty-year history. "  http://www.thebabylonmatrix.com/index.php?title=911:Geophysical_warfare - Check the research links in this article too
The preceeding link also contains:    Powder contrail generation Patent #3,899,144 (PDF Version with images)
and
 

Chemtrails: The List of Patents For Stratospheric Aerial Spraying Programs  http://lechoixdesavoir.blogspot.com/2010/12/brevets-pour-technologie-chemtrails-les.html
http://lechoixdesavoir.blogspot.com/2011/01/declassified-nz-defence-force-reports.html

This one will explain why they deny it... https://politicalvelcraft.org/chemtrails-why/

"“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.” â€" William S. Cohen, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 1997"
https://web.archive.org/web/20061002071247/http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=674 - Fourth answer from bottom
"According to Defense News 13-19 April 1992, the U.S. deployed an electromagnetic pulse weapon in Desert Storm"

"n January 1978, Dr. Puharich issued a detailed research paper entitled “Global Magnetic Warfare: A Layman’s View of Certain Artificially Induced Unusual Effects On The Planet Earth during 1976 and 1977. ...  Of the many great earthquakes of 1976, there is one that demands special attention â€" the July 28, 1976 Tangshan, China earthquake.”
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/2013/01/invisible-warfare-geophysical-weapons-of-the-secret-government/

HAARP: 

"Other ionospheric heaters around the world include a lower-power US facility in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, which has been offline since a flood several years ago (although plans are under way to refurbish it), and one in the Russian city of Vasilsursk, which has struggled with funding issues. HAARP's closest peer is a powerful ionospheric heater at the European Incoherent Scatter (EISCAT) Scientific Association in northern Scandinavia. EISCAT's heater has cost roughly $24 million to build and operate to date, and was the first to create an artificial aurora, even before HAARP."   http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080423/full/452930a.html



HAARP-Cam, no longer active. http://wayback.archive.org/web/20110624130939/http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cam2.html

Resources:
http://presscore.ca/treaty-banned-weather-modification-system-now-being-used-by-the-u-s-to-achieve-geopolitical-objectives
https://climateviewer.com/haarp/
http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/11/01/26/us-military-haarp-facility-exmouthwestern-australia-even-more-advanced-one-alaska

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/haarp/WEATHER.html
https://prof77.wordpress.com/wtf/strange-satellite-image-downloaded-from-austrailian-weather-site/

Lots of evidence for this existing. Now just think if it was admitted to the general populace that we, and others had these weapons. This is a special toy they get to play with and they don't want to lose. Think there might be an outcry leading to it being banned if everyone knew about this ?  We don't need Nukes anymore if we have these type weapons - well, tactical nukes still have a purpose.

But, as with all conspiracy, you have to sift through a lot of pure Bravo Sierra and red herrings to find one or two gems of information that will lead to corroborated facts. 

Addendum: If you have a couple of days, you might want to check this out --> https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/2943/text

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wow thats a lot of...stuff

[zeebo]

wow thats a lot of...stuff

lol .. . epic post, Logan ... I might be a skeptic, but I'm always up for following the torsion field trail wherever it leads 

[starrmtn001]

Yikes!   You really smart dudes just make my neural circuitry smoke !

[trostol]

Yikes!   You really smart dudes just make my neural circuitry smoke !

just do what i do cutey..nod and smile

[OstrichThief]

Live at 9 monster castle paranormal.   New York police officer

[starrmtn001]

just do what i do cutey..nod and smile

Yeah, good idea.  I think I'll do that.

[pate]

T'empress>?

[Dr. MD MD]

lol .. . epic post, Logan ... I might be a skeptic, but I'm always up for following the torsion field trail wherever it leads 

I liked how rekcuf phrased it the other day, Follow the Soros. 

[ShayP]

Unless the hacker takes the site down again...

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[expat]

Stone is a sleazy Trump-apologist.

"Roger Stone often gives insightsbiased anti-Clinton trash on behind-the-scenes political agendas..."

Fixed.

[akwilly]

Stone is a sleazy Trump-apologist.

"Roger Stone often gives insightsbiased anti-Clinton trash on behind-the-scenes political agendas..."

Fixed.

I think it can be a pretty good show tonight

[21st Century Man]

Stone is a sleazy Trump-apologist.

"Roger Stone often gives insightsbiased anti-Clinton trash on behind-the-scenes political agendas..."

Fixed.

Fixed and you are right.  He is about as sleazy as a person can be.

[ShayP]

Fixed and you are right.  He is about as sleazy as a person can be.

Yes he is.  However he does have a good sense of fashion, and probably will be hammered at the start of the interview.  I'm looking forward to this. 

[Dr. MD MD]

Fixed and you are right.  He is about as sleazy as a person can be.

Like there's not sleaze coming from the left these days, along with a whole lot of crazy Orwellian ideology? Sorry, he could literally be a maggot and I still listen for counterbalance to all this spin. I wish there were more like him, sleaze or not. I'm sick and tired of proper but fucked in the ass because that's all the democrats and the media they apparently control give you these days. 

[21st Century Man]

Like there's not sleaze coming from the left these days, along with a whole lot of crazy Orwellian ideology? Sorry, he could literally be a maggot and I still listen for counterbalance to all this spin. I wish there were more like him, sleaze or not. I'm sick and tired of proper but fucked in the ass because that's all the democrats and the media they apparently control give you these days. 

I can't forgive what Stone did in the primaries.  He can rot in hell for all I care.  Sure I know there are people just as bad on the left but that is to be expected.

[Dr. MD MD]

I can't forgive what Stone did in the primaries.  He can rot in hell for all I care.  Sure I know there are people just as bad on the left but that is to be expected.

Huh? Didn't copy that. It seemed like you were saying that it's alright for the left to engage on s
sleazy muckraking but not the right?! I think we would all prefer a more elevated debate but given that's not the case I can't blame guys like Stone and Jones because even though what they do is sometimes disingenuous it's obvious that the mainstream media is pretty much ALWAYS being disingenuous in the service of a political ideology. Counterbalance is probably needed and appropriate.

[zeebo]

....Counterbalance is probably needed and appropriate.

This horror-show of an election has dragged on for almost two years now, sucking up all the oxygen, with the last few months becoming a colossal global embarrassment.  The counterbalance I want is *no more friggin politics*.      

Please gimme torsion fields or chemtrails or arcologies or cronkite stories, anything.  Hoagie's obsession with all this amateurish political tripe is killing the show.  It's supposed to be the "other side of midnite" .. well wtf hoagie do you think radio & tv has been talking about all friggin day?  As a wise man once said ... Get to the Model!

[norland2424]

This horror-show of an election has dragged on for almost two years now, sucking up all the oxygen, with the last few months becoming a colossal global embarrassment.  The counterbalance I want is *no more friggin politics*.      

Please gimme torsion fields or chemtrails or arcologies or cronkite stories, anything.  Hoagie's obsession with all this amateurish political tripe is killing the show.  It's supposed to be the "other side of midnite" .. well wtf hoagie do you think radio & tv has been talking about all friggin day?  As a wise man once said ... Get to the Model!

this +100

[ShayP]

Cheers all! 

[norland2424]

Cheers all! 

hoagie wants your donation money now lol

[ShayP]

Did Hoagie mention 'seepage?'     I totally understand.

[ShayP]

hoagie wants your donation money now lol

I'd give him some just to watch him wander around with his accutron in Haiti. LOL!

[norland2424]

I'd give him some just to watch him wander around with his accutron in Haiti. LOL!

lol do you trust them enough? lol

[starrmtn001]

Good Braaapings Everyone!