Richard C. Hoagland

astroguy · May 25, 2012, 10:16:00 AM

Quote from: expat on May 25, 2012, 09:03:51 AM
As expected, last night the pseudo-scientist announced that the jaunt to Egypt with Robin is cancelled. Just didn't raise enough by begging on Fuckbook.

The ~25 suck^Wfans who contributed ~$2000 are not thought to be eligible for refunds.

That's really unfortunate for the suckers who gave him money. I guess they don't really have an action for suing him, but I wish they did.

Quote from: Michael Vandeven on May 25, 2012, 10:04:14 AM
maybe he's using it as a literary device to indicate sarcasm or to be dismissive... as in, "hrumph... yeah, sure, they call themselves 'new mexico'... hrumph hrumph."

But he lives there! I was within a 50 mile radius of him over the weekend!

expat · May 27, 2012, 08:38:01 AM

Some woman called Irene Gardner has offered to fund half of Hoagland's Egyptian jaunt (i.e. $40K) if he can prove the Accutron nonsense is genuine by producing a baseline and a control for all the so-called experiments.

Wanna guess how RCH is spending his MemDay holiday? Faking up baselines?

astroguy · May 27, 2012, 11:44:08 AM

Yeah, we're talking about that on the SGU forum. Some are thinking it's a clever way to "punk" him.

MV/Liberace! · May 28, 2012, 02:52:41 PM

Quote from: astroguy on May 27, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
Yeah, we're talking about that on the SGU forum. Some are thinking it's a clever way to "punk" him.

~~what is sgu?~~

i guess it's sguforums.com? that is one BIG god damned forum!

astroguy · May 28, 2012, 05:37:13 PM

Quote from: MV on May 28, 2012, 02:52:41 PM~~what is sgu?~~

i guess it's sguforums.com? that is one BIG god damned forum!

Yes.

stevesh · May 28, 2012, 05:45:01 PM

Quote from: MV on May 28, 2012, 02:52:41 PM

~~what is sgu?~~

i guess it's sguforums.com? that is one BIG god damned forum!

It is, but I don't think they want it to get any bigger. One of the required registration questions is: "What is the podcaster Jay's last name?" WTF ?

astroguy · May 28, 2012, 05:48:04 PM

Quote from: stevesh on May 28, 2012, 05:45:01 PMIt is, but I don't think they want it to get any bigger. One of the required registration questions is: "What is the podcaster Jay's last name?" WTF ?

It's the forum for the "Skeptics' Guide to the Universe" podcast. Generally if you're on the forum, they assume that you listen to the podcast. Three of the five hosts are brothers with the last name "Novella."

expat · June 04, 2012, 07:22:19 AM

Phew. I just checked the "upcoming shows" list and it DOES NOT CONTAIN "Science adviser Richard C. Hoagland checks in from Sandia Peak with another sensational science experiment, proving beyond doubt that torsion fields are stronger during a Venus transit. This could mean free energy to power the planet for ever."

Yes, folks, he's been reduced to staying in his home state, having vowed first to go to the Giza plateau, then said the fallback was Coral Castle (again). No chance of a refund for the disciples who ponied up an aggregate $2,000 for the Giza jaunt. He turned down $40K because there were strings attached. Strings like "Let's see all your data, including baselines and controls."

Sardondi · June 04, 2012, 08:08:48 AM

Quote from: expat on June 04, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
Phew. I just checked the "upcoming shows" list and it DOES NOT CONTAIN "Science adviser Richard C. Hoagland checks in from Sandia Peak with another sensational science experiment, proving beyond doubt that torsion fields are stronger during a Venus transit. This could mean free energy to power the planet for ever."

Yes, folks, he's been reduced to staying in his home state, having vowed first to go to the Giza plateau, then said the fallback was Coral Castle (again). No chance of a refund for the disciples who ponied up an aggregate $2,000 for the Giza jaunt. He turned down $40K because there were strings attached. Strings like "Let's see all your data, including baselines and controls."

Just saw your site, and it looks great. "Branch Hoaglandians" has me literally still laughing as I post this. Well done.

*edit* - Just read the "Irene" offer and results. Hoagland's responses were almost scary. That was a fairly subtle attempt he made at undermining "Irene's" relationship and insinuating himself into the supposed void. Yes, how dare anyone try to tell a strong, beautiful independent woman to whom she might give money? Heh. I had thought Hoagland was just a scientific fraud, but I see he's an accomplished and experienced financial con man as well. Not to mention something of a cultist as well. Well done, expat

stevesh · June 04, 2012, 10:39:00 AM

Whoever 'Irene' is - I love you.

Harmness · June 06, 2012, 03:46:37 PM

Irene rules.

expat and astroguy, I enjoy both of your blogs.

expat · June 07, 2012, 04:56:35 PM

Irene's on the warpath again -- laying into Hoagland in his little corner of Facebookistan. She's got it right...

Frys Girl · June 07, 2012, 08:35:08 PM

Does Richard C. Hoagland have a degree in any subject? Did he ever take university physics courses? I'm serious. He doesn't seem like he could even tell you Newton's laws!

Rasputin · June 07, 2012, 10:14:24 PM

Does anyone have a link to the forum thread where Irene is punking RCH? I'd love to get a look at that!

b_dubb · June 08, 2012, 12:16:12 AM

Quote from: Frys Girl on June 07, 2012, 08:35:08 PM
Does Richard C. Hoagland have a degree in any subject? Did he ever take university physics courses? I'm serious. He doesn't seem like he could even tell you Newton's laws!

I looked up RCH on Wikipedia and any claim of higher education was conspicuously absent

ziznak · June 08, 2012, 01:34:01 AM

I'd like to see a response to the email sent to snoory detailing mr hoaxlands humbuggery but when I think about what he would say all I hear is the monotonous sound of a flatlined EKG

expat · June 08, 2012, 06:41:52 AM

Rasputin: Due to FB's brain-dead "Timeline" layout, it isn't possible to provide a direct link. Here's the page:
http://www.facebook.com/RichardC.Hoagland

Find the "Recent posts by others" panel, expand it, and scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll,.....
Hurry hurry! He'll delete it as soon as he notices.

Hoagland has no education beyond high school.

Frys Girl · June 08, 2012, 06:43:41 AM

I remember Facebook banned Hoagland once and on his crazy web site, he was expressing his outrage. I think this was last year... Not surprised he came back to FB.

Morgus · June 09, 2012, 08:46:47 PM

Hoagland's favorite recent movie "John Carter of Mars" came out on DVD, Blu-ray/3D, and streaming rental sources this past week.
Expect Hoagland to appear again soon on c2c to tell more how the movie has lots of hidden secret information about Mars and try to get Noory to watch the movie.

PhantasticSanShiSan · June 10, 2012, 01:29:59 AM

Quote from: Morgus on June 09, 2012, 08:46:47 PM
Hoagland's favorite recent movie "John Carter of Mars" came out on DVD, Blu-ray/3D, and streaming rental sources this past week.
Expect Hoagland to appear again soon on c2c to tell more how the movie has lots of hidden secret information about Mars and try to get Noory to watch the movie.

"What the listeners don't know or may not realize is that this is basically a well-dressed documentary!"

coaster · June 10, 2012, 12:11:25 PM

for the last two nights I've spent hours reading expat's blog on richard hoagland. not only does it show what a fraud hoagland is, but it's pretty damn funny as well.

MV/Liberace! · June 10, 2012, 12:29:54 PM

Quote from: coaster on June 10, 2012, 12:11:25 PM
for the last two nights I've spent hours reading expat's blog on richard hoagland. not only does it show what a fraud hoagland is, but it's pretty damn funny as well.

what's the link?

b_dubb · June 10, 2012, 12:47:20 PM

http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2012/05/hoagland-heist-pseudo-scientist.html?m=1

I believe

expat · June 10, 2012, 12:50:15 PM

Quote from: b_dubb on June 10, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2012/05/hoagland-heist-pseudo-scientist.html?m=1

Well, that's just one specific post. The general link is just http://dorkmission.blogspot.com

Glad the humor is appreciated. Hoagland & Bara really are dangerous, but there's no need to get all po-faced about it.

Grimace · June 10, 2012, 01:25:00 PM

Behold, the foundations of science and consciousness shall be ROCKED to their foundation when Sir Hoagland brandishes his sharpened blade of psuedoscience, the ACCUTRON hooked to his laptop!

"THE LINES!" he cries in a fit of passion, "LOOK AT THE LINES ON THE SCREEN!" To the Coral Castle, to Stonehenge, to Giza we shall march on! This will change EVERYTHING, people! Empty your coffers, turn over your assets and DONATE TO SIR HOAGLAND'S PAYPAL NOW!

Juan · June 10, 2012, 02:36:51 PM

What's the matter with this dorkmission guy and Sagan. There's an eggplant that looks like Nixon. So, there. Don't they know there are no coincidences?

coaster · June 10, 2012, 03:09:22 PM

The cover of Bara's upcoming book looks like a a blind person just found out about ms paint. I even contacted him through facebook and told him i would redo it, free of charge if the book wasnt already in production. His reply was making the cover his default profile picture on facebook. he really showed me.. Thats what I get for tying to help. I've actually done cover work for various books and cd's, mainly helping the little guys. Even art I've posted on c2c's site has seen requests for cover art. But instead of accepting the free help, he continues to be a moron. Whatever. All i can say is you can definitely judge a book by it's cover.

MV/Liberace! · June 10, 2012, 03:26:09 PM

Quote from: coaster on June 10, 2012, 03:09:22 PM
The cover of Bara's upcoming book looks like a a blind person just found out about ms paint. I even contacted him through facebook and told him i would redo it, free of charge if the book wasnt already in production. His reply was making the cover his default profile picture on facebook. he really showed me.. Thats what I get for tying to help. I've actually done cover work for various books and cd's, mainly helping the little guys. Even art I've posted on c2c's site has seen requests for cover art. But instead of accepting the free help, he continues to be a moron. Whatever. All i can say is you can definitely judge a book by it's cover.

Link to book?

coaster · June 10, 2012, 03:32:24 PM

Quote from: MV on June 10, 2012, 03:26:09 PM
Link to book?

Frys Girl · June 10, 2012, 03:51:38 PM

Quote from: coaster on June 10, 2012, 03:09:22 PM
The cover of Bara's upcoming book looks like a a blind person just found out about ms paint. I even contacted him through facebook and told him i would redo it, free of charge if the book wasnt already in production. His reply was making the cover his default profile picture on facebook. he really showed me.. Thats what I get for tying to help. I've actually done cover work for various books and cd's, mainly helping the little guys. Even art I've posted on c2c's site has seen requests for cover art. But instead of accepting the free help, he continues to be a moron. Whatever. All i can say is you can definitely judge a book by it's cover.

Don't offer to do things for these idiots! You're too good.