Art Bell

[PB the Deplorable]

Actually, back when our company got into a multi-book deal with Noory, he was in the honeymoon period with many fans, us included. We signed contracts for approximately five books stretching into the future, and it started out as a solid, exciting endeavor.

Yes, the siren call of the Snorge

[WhiteCrow]

Back on topic...
https://youtu.be/u_dHINvQqIA

Hate Love Art..   Dump Adore Heather..

Dave Suks ALWAYS

[Donald Noory]

Heather should jump into the book writing game while she still holds her position. I can think of a few titles:

How to Be a Witch
How to Mispronounce Common Words
How to Hoodwink a Radio Audience
How to Bamboozle Your Way into a Job You're Not Qualified For (While Acting Coy)
The Fine Art of Vocal Fry
The Bog-standard Interview

[bateman]

To be fair, I have to take (uncredited) responsibility for that one.

I think you should have kept the subtitle: Fancy Flavored Butter Recipes.

[nbirnes]

Worker in the Light was foisted on the world in 2007. Pretty sure everyone knew Norry sucked by then, including any of his "co-authors". Most people must think it's trash. 44% of the reviews received on Amazon are one star, each of the other "star" rating categories has less. (3% two star, 9% three star, 11% four star, 33% five star...that's pretty pathetic)

If it was published in 2007, we're talking late 2005 or so as the honeymoon period. Ancient history, for sure.

[nbirnes]

I think you should have kept the subtitle: Fancy Flavored Butter Recipes.

Hindsight is always 20-20. 👓

[coaster]

To be fair, I have to take (uncredited) responsibility for that one.

It is an American classic.

[WOTR]

No, but I have "coauthored" articles with/for men who had a story to tell but not the ability to do so in a clear, concise manner.  Any man who can get a book out of someone as simple minded as Noory or batshit crazy as Corso is someone to be respected.

Agreed.  For anybody who is critical of the finished work, consider the material there was to work with.  The finished product may not be 24K gold, but they did manage to turn dog crap into solid copper.  Pretty respectable in alchemy circles. 

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I think anyone who co-authors a book with Noory is due zero respect, for most likely doing 99% of the writing work on the book, then allowing a chimp like Noory to receive a "co-author" credit. And also for using Noory's name as "co-author" as a cynical cash-grab to sucker in the low-watt bulbs in the Coast audience.

I disagree. I plan to reprint many of Shakespeare's works with "By George Noory and William Shakespeare".

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" = "Sumthans going on in the state of Denmark".

[Ciardelo]

Hindsight is always 20-20. 👓

We need more nutbutters up in here.

[Value Of Pi]

Reagan did away with the Federal program, but at the same time, he passed on all off the funding to the states. That was right when he took office. He was trying to reduce the size of the federal government and give the states more control. I don't know how long that funding continued. I am sure Congress had to decide each year whether or not to keep returning the funds to the states.

My guess would be that some states were better stewards than others. I seem to remember horror stories about institutions in Texas being closed and people being taken to greyhound stations.

I don't think that was in 1980 though, it seems like it was more around 83-85. I am working from fuzzy memories, but I do know Reagan's intent was to reduce the size of Federal government, not eliminate the services for the mentally ill.

That sounds about right. The federal government didn't want the job any more and it turned out the states didn't want it either. There was no orderly transition to some other way of managing the problem, which then deteriorated into a massive homelessness and mental health debacle. Then came some band-aid fixes and programs. The whole thing is a shame.

The idea you allude to, btw, of buying oil company stocks and using the dividends to buy your gas or oil has merit, I think. It also works well for utilities, which pay good dividends that you can apply to your gas and electric bill. If nothing else, it takes some pain out of paying these bills. You don't need to enjoy owning stocks to do this; it's just another way of surviving in an investment framework that is so market-based.

[Value Of Pi]

From the ACLU webpage:

https://www.aclu.org/aclu-history-mental-institutions

This was going on long before Reagan was President, or even governor:

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

Even Hollywood got into the act:

http://www.amazon.com/One-Flew-Over-Cuckoos-Nest/dp/B000LY94N4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456891361&sr=8-2&keywords=cuckoos+nest

Thanks for posting. Will definitely read these. I hope these articles shed some light on why anyone would think that junking a system with real problems would be a better solution than fixing the problems or replacing the system with a better system. Winning a battle in court is meaningless if you lose the fight in the big wide world.

[GravitySucks]

That sounds about right. The federal government didn't want the job any more and it turned out the states didn't want it either. There was no orderly transition to some other way of managing the problem, which then deteriorated into a massive homelessness and mental health debacle. Then came some band-aid fixes and programs. The whole thing is a shame.

The idea you allude to, btw, of buying oil company stocks and using the dividends to buy your gas or oil has merit, I think. It also works well for utilities, which pay good dividends that you can apply to your gas and electric bill. If nothing else, it takes some pain out of paying these bills. You don't need to enjoy owning stocks to do this; it's just another way of surviving in an investment framework that is so market-based.

Yeah, but don't forget to pay the income tax on those dividends. So any money that evil corporations make as profit after paying their taxes is then taxed as income once it is paid out as a dividend.

[SciFiAuthor]

If it was published in 2007, we're talking late 2005 or so as the honeymoon period. Ancient history, for sure.

Don't pay any attention Nancy, Donald can't sell anything he writes. He's just bitter.

[Value Of Pi]

Yeah, but don't forget to pay the income tax on those dividends. So any money that evil corporations make as profit after paying their taxes is then taxed as income once it is paid out as a dividend.

It's good to be the king, I mean, the government. They always get their cut. Nevertheless, I do appreciate these companies paying some of my bills in return for my investing in them.

But as far as taxes go, I think the one that puzzles me the most is the gift tax. You give someone your own money, the taxes on which have already been payed in your income tax, then you get taxed again for any amount over $12,000 (the number when last I looked). Estate taxes might have a similarly sketchy rationale, but this seems more cruel because you're alive to be tortured by this practice.

[PB the Deplorable]

... But as far as taxes go, I think the one that puzzles me the most is the gift tax. You give someone your own money, the taxes on which have already been payed in your income tax, then you get taxed again for any amount over $12,000 (the number when last I looked). Estate taxes might have a similarly sketchy rationale, but this seems more cruel because you're alive to be tortured by this practice.

The gift tax (exclusion now $14k/yr) actually goes hand in hand with the estate tax.  The gift tax is there to prevent the wealthy from giving it away before dying in order to avoid the estate tax.  Not that there aren't ways of avoiding much or all of the estate tax by taking certain steps. 

Even for those without a crafty tax attorney, a married couple (parents) can give another married couple (son or daughter and their spouse) $56k a year excluded from gift tax (dad gives son $14k, mom gives son $14k, dad gives daughter in law $14k, mom gives dil $14k = $56k).

[Lilith]

Your post did not address the original topic of problems with homelessness and mental illness. I understood the numbers you presented. I didn't understand what you meant by corporate welfare.

I am not a fan of ExIm.

People throw around the term corporate welfare, and I never know where they are coming from or what they mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywLozSjjoLE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX_za41ZVAs

[Lilith]

Your post did not address the original topic of problems with homelessness and mental illness. I understood the numbers you presented. I didn't understand what you meant by corporate welfare.

I am not a fan of ExIm.

People throw around the term corporate welfare, and I never know where they are coming from or what they mean.

I tried to edit my last post with thiese videos as well, but it was too late to edit once I found them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsqz0SqVKQQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8I8VGLNUw

[Jesus Undercarriage]

Good afternoons Cunts, have I missed anything?
Has Art been back? Done a drive by show yet?
Heather still getting better?

[munbeam666]

I tried to edit my last post with thiese videos as well, but it was too late to edit once I found them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsqz0SqVKQQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8I8VGLNUw

Right on!

[Ciardelo]

Russian State Media. God Bless America and her free speech.

[Donald Noory]

Good afternoons Cunts, have I missed anything?
Has Art been back? Done a drive by show yet?
Heather still getting better?

There have been some interesting developments. Heather's voice has changed slightly, leading to much speculation that her balls may have finally dropped. Which led to more speculation regarding how long it took (fake)Sci-Fi Author to start cupping them.

#fakeSciFiAuthor
#DrawerFullOfUnsoldManuscripts

[DarKPenguiN]

Russian State Media. God Bless America and her free speech.

The best part about it is that RT takes a highly liberal position that even goes against Mother Russia's governmental policy/philosophy. Why would the Russians be pushing an agenda upon us via their state sponsored media when they themselves are opposed to much of the philosophy that they are peddling.

very odd...

I think Mother Russia understands chess a bit better than Uncle Sam.

I actually really like and respect the Russians and think they are positioning themselves to be the next major world power if/when the USA crumbles. The USA very well could end up in a position like the old soviet union and i'm certain the russins wouldnt mind hastening that possible event.

This has alot to do with Bretonwoods vs Brics (among other things) and this is the key reason fuel prices are going so low . Interesting time on the world stage.

[Lt.Uhura]

That sounds about right. The federal government didn't want the job any more and it turned out the states didn't want it either. There was no orderly transition to some other way of managing the problem, which then deteriorated into a massive homelessness and mental health debacle. Then came some band-aid fixes and programs. The whole thing is a shame.

I don't know what the current stats are on how many homeless are alcoholics, but most of the homeless I see in the ER are alcoholics--who after being thrown out by family and friends, will admit their alcoholism is why they are homeless.  CDC and other health-related statistics often lag years behind, but from my anecdotal perspective, alcoholism seems to be pandemic.  There are some days when easily half of my patients in the ER are brought in due to acute and/or chronic alcohol-related health issues.  BTW, alcoholism doesn't discriminate, I work in upper-middle class suburbia, not on skid row. 

[Philosopher]

Heather should jump into the book writing game while she still holds her position. I can think of a few titles:

How to Be a Witch
How to Mispronounce Common Words
How to Hoodwink a Radio Audience
How to Bamboozle Your Way into a Job You're Not Qualified For (While Acting Coy)
The Fine Art of Vocal Fry
The Bog-standard Interview

and unending uptalk???

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/24/vocal-fry-strong-female-voice

[munbeam666]

Russian State Media. God Bless America and her free speech.

Yes. Interesting that we get the real news about us from our supposed adversaries

[Ciardelo]

Yes. Interesting that we get the real news about us from our supposed adversaries

"Real news" So you believe the Russian State News? OK. Hippie.

[DarKPenguiN]

Yes. Interesting that we get the real news about us from our supposed adversaries

No 'supposed' adversary about it- Russia is our adversary.

Russia isnt spending all this money to "educate" the American public and increase our knowledge and understanding of the world. Its propaganda (note: propaganda does not necessarily mean 'lies') in the same vein as 'radio free europe'.

The interesting and ironic thing about RT is that they are pushing an agenda that goes against their own policy. Usually a nation with good intentions would be using media like this to bring our Countries and people closer in philosophy and doctrine but with RT they criticize the US over things that are far more severe in Russia. On one hand RT screams about identity politics, gay rights and how horrible it is in the States while Russia is clamping down on the gay agenda and indoctrination of the youth.

You cant have it both ways,

This would be similar to USA government using media and propaganda (paid for with tax  money) to tell the people of the Netherlands that their drug policy is too harsh and they need to relax drug laws while having far more extreme drug laws here in our own country. That screams of agenda and anyone who cannot see this is blind.

The World is a dangerous place, my friend. We have few real allies and many adversary's including Russia.  Russia wants whats best for Russia, as they should- And that doesnt often translate to whats best for America.

Just because bombs arent falling from the sky and everything appears relatively peaceful between our nations does not mean we arent in direct competition and thus adversaries.

You are playing right into their hand.

[Roswells, Art]

"Real news" So you believe the Russian State News? OK. Hippie.

How about putting forth your own ideas as part of a discussion? 99.8 percent of your posts used to be telling another poster you were putting them on ignore. Now it's just trying to insult people you disagree with.

[onan]

How about putting forth your own ideas as part of a discussion. 99.8 percent of your posts used to be telling another poster you were putting them on ignore. Now it's just trying to insult people you disagree with.

I love how some are painting RT as the boogie man. OOOhhh no, not propaganda, like every other talking head doesn't try to divide us. But somehow getting information, that is accurate by the way, somehow is beyond any of us seeing it for less than mind control. Patriotism is love of country and fellow countrymen, even if they see thing differently.