Art Bell

[GuerrillaUnReal]

It's a labor of love.

I plan to hand my account down to my children and then their children. That is if I ever meet any of them.

[DarKPenguiN]

Sorry if I offended you. I was sure I read some shit about Art's family history you posted. Maybe I am not remembering correctly. No one likes to be accused wrongly, I know

No offense. I was correcting you. I never apologized and have no plans to.

Now you know and we're on the same page. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Life  must have been real easy.

Considering that all you've done for the last 6 weeks is create negativity and fuck with an old man that's being threatened by a stalker, I'd say there's a good chance that life hasn't treated you very well. It's also obvious that you are your own worst enemy. I think you should probably head out to the woodshed, punch some sense into yourself and rethink how you're spending your life because you're wasting it with this trolling bullshit.

[Value Of Pi]

Don't be so modest; if a crap site like Godlike Productions is important enough to somebody to hire shills to work on it, BellGab is important enough to some corporate media outlet to spend a few bucks here:

"The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need. As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on."
http://www.healthnutnews.com/i-was-a-paid-internet-shill/

So what would motivate someone to spend time and money placing shills at BellGab and for what purpose? I'm here wearing my seldom worn (and many sizes too small) conspiracy hat and I can't imagine how this plot goes.

[Richard Groyper]

I plan to hand my account down to my children and then their children. That is if I ever meet any of them.

Gotta keep it in the fam, FAM. 

[TigerLily]

So what would motivate someone to spend time and money placing shills at BellGab and for what purpose? I'm here wearing my seldom worn (and many sizes too small) conspiracy hat and I can't imagine how this plot goes.

It's in the data

[WOTR]

I don't know why this made me laugh so hard. "Welp, done checking email and reading news this morning, time to argue with strangers about a 70 year-old talk show host for the rest of the day."

Come on... If not for this place, it would be unlikely that I would search for a youtube video of adults in diapers acting like babies.  What more productive use of my day could there be?

[Richard Groyper]

So what would motivate someone to spend time and money placing shills at BellGab and for what purpose? I'm here wearing my seldom worn (and many sizes too small) conspiracy hat and I can't imagine how this plot goes.

No! Now "they've" roped Value Of Pi in. Down the rabbit hole we go...

[Mind Flayer Monk]

So what would motivate someone to spend time and money placing shills at BellGab and for what purpose? I'm here wearing my seldom worn (and many sizes too small) conspiracy hat and I can't imagine how this plot goes.

e-cigs

[TigerLily]

That was King Of Kings and even that was taken out of context. He wasnt making a joke but trying to make a point about Libel/slander if I remember correctly.

The one I seem to remember, I guess incorrectly, was about another member of his family

[analog kid]

Considering that all you've done for the last 6 weeks is create negativity and fuck with an old man that's being threatened by a stalker, I'd say there's a good chance that life hasn't treated you very well. It's also obvious that you are your own worst enemy. I think you should probably head out to the woodshed, punch some sense into yourself and rethink how you're spending your life because you're wasting it with this trolling bullshit.

He's a kid in his mom's basement. I doubt he's older than 16. Darkpenguin maybe 18 at the most.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

These are the dumbest memes. First critics are supposed to call in and fuck up shows from people they like. Now there's a wide ranging conspiracy when the show is dead and Art Bell poisoned his fan base?
I was one of the first people to sign up on this site between Victory Ali and this account. DarKPenguin signed up three years ago. theONE, I have no idea what his deal is. SV has been here forever. Um... who else is considered paid dissension on here?

This is stupid too because I've watched Israeli megaphone in action before. It's frightening. This is just bored frustrated people who can't give up their BellGab kicks.

[MV/Liberace!]

Salacious fact: MV's kids have outgrown diapers. He buys them for "recreational" purposes now. That's right, he's doing this with YOUR donations and Adsense bucks.

you can get high on the absorbent powder inside.  much easier than hunting down strawberry kush.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

These are the dumbest memes. First critics are supposed to call in and fuck up shows from people they like. Now there's a wide ranging conspiracy when the show is dead and Art Bell poisoned his fan base?
I was one of the first people to sign up on this site between Victory Ali and this account. DarKPenguin signed up three years ago. theONE, I have no idea what his deal is. SV has been here forever. Um... who else is considered paid dissension on here?

Memes don't need to be smart, only repeated.

[DarKPenguiN]

Considering that all you've done for the last 6 weeks is create negativity and fuck with an old man that's being threatened by a stalker, I'd say there's a good chance that life hasn't treated you very well. It's also obvious that you are your own worst enemy. I think you should probably head out to the woodshed, punch some sense into yourself and rethink how you're spending your life because you're wasting with this trolling bullshit.

Look man, I'm going to be honest with you here.  I know trolling is (usually) a waste of time.So is pretty much typing on a forum even if you're being 100% valid in your opinions and motives. Watching TV is a waste of time. playing games is a waste of time. Long walks of the beach- Waste if time.

Everything that is fun and pleasurable is essentially a waste of time.

I choose how i will waste my time. I'm not on government assistance, you dont pay my bills and I do well enough to be above the median income bracket for both my State and the Nation.

Everything can always be done more efficiently and theres always something 'more important' we all could be doing to better ourselves.

I have learned to make the most efficient use of my wasting time on forums by listening to college lectures in the background http://online.hillsdale.edu/course/con101/schedule (Hillsdale college offers some fantastic free non accredited classes)  or listening to an audiobook , podcast, you tube video , etc... also talking on Skype and petting my dog... And eating chips.

Multitasking. its where its at and it makes the wasted time not amount to a total waste.

[NXOEED]

http://www.healthnutnews.com/i-was-a-paid-internet-shill/

This is fascinating.

[WOTR]

Yeah honestly, from what I remember I think you're catching a lot of heat here but I don't remember you saying or do anything overtly trollish.

The guy showed up, announced that he was a troll and proceeded to do so for awhile (until it was played out.)  After that, he went away for awhile, sat all alone in his parents basement as all trolls do, and eventually realized that he missed the screwed up people here before returning.  Yes, there was trolling (and I'm sure he said things that were not very nice)- but the fact that he announced his intentions and people still decided to respond actually made it kind of funny.

And here we are.  No Art Bell to keep the thread on track.  Anybody have a documentary of adult babies to post here?

He's a kid in his mom's basement. I doubt he's older than 16. Darkpenguin maybe 18 at the most.

DP? The magic 8 ball says, 30 - 40.

[Chronaut]

So what would motivate someone to spend time and money placing shills at BellGab and for what purpose? I'm here wearing my seldom worn (and many sizes too small) conspiracy hat and I can't imagine how this plot goes.

If I were a corporate sociopath at a large broadcasting interest, for example, which felt threatened by the return of a major competitor who had a real chance of cutting into one of our largest program's listener/advertiser base over the next 3-5 years, I'd probably do two things:

1.)  See to it that someone got that guy off the air.
2.)  Disrupt his fan base and foment a wave of intense outrage against him, making any future return less likely and less profitable.

I'm not a sociopath so I'd never do that kind of thing, but it's a logical strategy and corporations do attract sociopaths -  in 2011 a British researcher found that sociopathy is 4 times more prevalent among corporate CEO's than in the general population:

"Among the things he learned while researching his new book, “The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry”: the incidence of psychopathy among CEOs is about 4 percent, four times what it is in the population at large."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/06/14/why-some-psychopaths-make-great-ceos/#3ba8a25d4fac

[GuerrillaUnReal]

The guy showed up, announced that he was a troll and proceeded to do so for awhile (until it was played out.)  After that, he went away for awhile, sat all alone in his parents basement as all trolls do, and eventually realized that he missed the screwed up people here before returning.  Yes, there was trolling (and I'm sure he said things that were not very nice)- but the fact that he announced his intentions and people still decided to respond actually made it kind of funny.

And here we are.  No Art Bell to keep the thread on track.  Anybody have a documentary of adult babies to post here?

I remember him doing a pretty shitty job trolling (no offense). But I think people are associating him with the inhaler jokes which I think was DP.

[DarKPenguiN]

I remember him doing a pretty shitty job trolling (no offense). But I think people are associating him with the inhaler jokes which I think was DP.

How dare you. 

[Chronaut]

The one I seem to remember, I guess incorrectly, was about another member of his family

Your memory is just fine.  He cited Ted "FundieFreak" Gunderson's absurd video in some misguided attempt to claim that Art lied about his son's court case (he hadn't, of course).  I remember it well, because I was so incensed that it took a week to wipe the blood from my eyes.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

How dare you. 

No offense senpai. I just thought you were looking for attention more than going for lulz at the time. But I only saw your posts in this thread. You may have been brilliant elsewhere and I missed it.

[WOTR]

How dare you. 

Wow- the emoticon matches the avatar.

[Chronaut]

This is fascinating.

Deeply troubling.  There seems to be an entire industry devoted to online psychological manipulation, with both private and public branches.

[onan]

We've gone a page without theONE posting? The yaks must have gotten loose.

Most people need to sleep after 72 hours straight of posting.

[WOTR]

Most people need to sleep after 72 hours straight of posting.

Most people need to go to work after 16...

I'm starting to feel like I have taken over his spot as "top poster" on this thread.  Time to go do something productive for awhile.

[DarKPenguiN]

Your memory is just fine.  He cited Ted "FundieFreak" Gunderson's absurd video in some misguided attempt to claim that Art lied about his son's court case (he hadn't, of course).  I remember it well, because I was so incensed that it took a week to wipe the blood out of my eyes.

There it is-

If Art didnt lie (and Gunderson did in that video- Not talk,ing about elsewhere) why no lawsuit?

someone lied. Either Art or ted.

ted posted documents that would have been forgery of government documents and slander/libel since it was both written and spoken (and put into videos)

What did Art do?

Art threatened me for bringing up the same thing and asked his fans to 'find out who I was"
Art threatened to sue MV for whatever
Art decided to not do anything to ted gunderson for that video?

Nope.Not logical.

Arts too trigger happy with threatening lawsuits to have decided to "look the other way" had any of that (the documents) been fabricated. Ted would have been sued, jailed and forced to retract publicly what he had said in that video and in writing.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Deeply troubling.  There seems to be an entire industry devoted to online psychological manipulation, with both private and public branches.

There was some guest a few months ago talking about memes as virus
http://www.amazon.com/Virus-Mind-The-Science-Meme/dp/1401924697

[Chronaut]

There was some guest a few months ago talking about memes as virus
http://www.amazon.com/Virus-Mind-The-Science-Meme/dp/1401924697

Mucho gracias - I've gotta check that out.  I see that Richard Brodie was on C2C - was he also on MitD?

[Value Of Pi]

the following are questions from sredni, all of which were asked either directly, indirectly, or were touched upon by art without being specifically asked.  most of sredni's other questions pertained to heather's inexperience or were predicated on the belief that art's stalker is a fabrication.  i wasn't interested in asking those questions myself because 1) i don't believe he's lying about the disturbances around his home, 2) nothing art would say is going to convince those who've made up their minds, and 3) i don't think heather's inexperience is going to be a subject of great interest to future listeners of the interview (there's more to this than the moment).

i know some of you are sick of hearing it, yet i can't help but return to the fact that there were 30 minutes of open phone lines at the end of the show for anyone to call in and pose the questions i didn't ask.  with over a week of advance notice prior to the airing of this interview, i don't understand why none of you showed up.  even the batshit hoagland stalker got through three times. 

i had no desire to rake art over the coals so others can feel vicariously satisfied through my manufactured aggression and incredulity.

I suppose #3 reflects your assumption that this had to be a historic interview, but that really was just an assumption on your part -- along with the notion of people listening to it in twenty years. That really depended on what Art said or what you got him to say. You made a good effort but the interview wasn't newsworthy, beyond the moment.

Also, inexperience isn't so much the issue with Heather (imagine a pitcher with not much big league experience pitching a great World Series game -- not far-fetched at all) as lack of ability to do the job well.

Obviously, Art could easily counter that it's all subjective and he thinks she's great (and he said all that) but understand that this kind of response is a dead-end brick wall for any caller hoping to find out what he was thinking in picking her. The host has a better chance of pushing the point and learning something new, if he/she wants to risk it.

Any smart listener/potential caller would realize that they had no chance of getting an answer, based on how the interview was going and what Art had already said. Nobody enjoys being stonewalled.