Art Bell

[weeberwubber]

It should be noted before it's posted on Facebook or somewhere that the article is over 4 years old. Still sucky and what we've suspected, but old.

[albrecht]

It should be noted before it's posted on Facebook or somewhere that the article is over 4 years old. Still sucky and what we've suspected, but old.

Yah, supposedly it was stopped. But....what's even more funny is that various hosts, like Rush, bitch about "seminar callers" (or something like that,) which I can also believe but apparently put up with (or knew) about paid corporate shills. There are claims, who knows if true, that "people" (companies, government, political activists, etc) pay people to post on forums. Wouldn't surprise me. Shills and various con-games are likely as old as the "oldest profession." Technology would, likely, make it even easier or more lucrative; and, maybe, effective?

[jerry]

It should be noted before it's posted on Facebook or somewhere that the article is over 4 years old. Still sucky and what we've suspected, but old.

I thought it sounded familiar from several years ago.

[ADG12311990]

It should be noted before it's posted on Facebook or somewhere that the article is over 4 years old. Still sucky and what we've suspected, but old.

Eh, it still explains why the same 5 people call in to Dave's show each night.

[Spinner]

Join us at the Live Chat thread:
http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,8283.0.html
and have fun while listening to Art interview Grant Cameron.

[gdwarner]

Oy, fake callers... who needs them?

Wow, that's ... wait a minute. I think that explains a lot!

[gdwarner]

Yet another, I recall discussing this a few months back:  http://gawker.com/5779701/your-favorite-wacky-morning-radio-show-is-a-festival-of-lies  Now you're going to tell me Slash isn't real, right?

A few years back, I recall seeing an ad in "Writer's Digest" asking for people to write comedy bits for radio shows. It came with a tape to use as an example of what they were looking for, and there was documentation as well.

I remember there was -- unfortunately, only in writing -- a parody of Cher's "Turn Back Time," which had been renamed, "Check Out My Firm Backside."

Let's see ... how did that go ...?

Check out my firm backside
(I forget the next line!)
I had a nip and a tuck and they lifted my hiney ...

Well. All that to say I don't think this is a new thing; they just seem to be a bit more sneaky about it these days.

A quick Google search reveals that to be from the American Comedy Network, but I have yet to find an actual copy of the song.

One day.

[gdwarner]

Arrrggghhh! Richard is putting me to sleep tonight ...

[Jessicas Place]

Art Bell you sound amazing!

[Lunger]

I assume you mean the "liberal elite" who agree with 99 percent of the world's climatologists who have evidence backed data concerning climate change. I have a lot less problem with them than our 1 percenters like Koch brothers, Monsanto, and the oil companies who have spent millions to lull the "little people" into denying climate change while they continue to line their pockets at the expense of our and our children's future. I agree with sci fi that much can be done but not with the fat cats using their money and influence to constantly derail intelligent discourse on the subject

The majority of actual climatologists know that AGW is not a real thing.  There is actually no evidence, none, of climate change.  Sea levels are not rising higher than normal..... Temperatures are not rising... Ice caps are not melting....

Get over it.  Climate change isn't a thing.  Government backed redistribution of wealth is.

[Jackstar]

There is actually no evidence, none, of climate change.  Sea levels are not rising higher than normal..... Temperatures are not rising... Ice caps are not melting....

Government backed redistribution of wealth is.

[CornyCrow]

The population worry comes from another scare book, The Population Bomb by Paul Ehrlich. It's crap, our real problem is going to be too low of a population. As societies grow in affluence they stop breeding on their own, this has held true for every affluent nation and is already showing in China and India's birth rates. You do not need 10 kids for financial stability in a rich country, so as your country grows wealthy like China and India are doing, their birth rates naturally begin to drop. If Europe and Japan are any key, those population numbers eventually go negative and you have to scramble to import people to keep the tax base going.

I really hate these scare pieces like Silent Spring, The Population Bomb and An Inconvenient Truth. They make tons of money for the authors because they scare people, but they also put erroneous ideas into people's heads and then they go all political with the stuff and we end up fighting about problems that aren't there.

There have been animals in the past that have gone extinct by reproducing more than their environment can hold.  And, yes, the hope is that as we become less agrarian there is less of an economic need for children, in fact, kids become a liability, so we stop having them. 

That's the hope, anyway. 

Bill Gates once made that claim, that as populations did well, and as women held jobs, there would be fewer offsprintg.  He's since retracted on that comment, calling for intervention. 

Some scary claims are actually true warnings.  If you look at the environment and those who interact with it, you find problems almost everywhere we roam.  We are a plague on the face of the planet.  I think we are overly populated when we are living in areas that might have once been considered not suitable.  In the US the government often offers a cushion for those who live in risky areas, that and insurance companies.  We also offer a cushion for people who have children in spite of shaky jobs or even those who have no jobs.  If we pulled back such perks maybe people would use a bit of wisdom.

Yes, you are right.  Our economic model requires a constantly expanding consumer and tax base. 

We need a different form of government.  You can see all these 'world' issues pushing us into the feared 'One World Government' eventually, can't you?  We are in a situation in which, like it or not,  cooperation is going to be essential.

This stripping of rain forests, over fishing, pollution of the atmosphere, is not a joke and not to be taken lightly.  Go to your nearest college and ask some of the science teachers there what THEIR opinions are.  This environmental issue rocks a lot of economic boats.  There is big money hiring people to convince us that the facts lie. 

[Art_s Farts]

Tonight's Guest

Bio:

Michael Aquino, the author of the 2013 book MindWar, is a retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel with a forty -year career in Political-Military Affairs, Psychological Operations, Special Forces, and Intelligence. He received the Ph.D. in Political Science from the University of California and a Master’s in Public Administration from George Washington University, and has taught as a Professor of Political Science at Golden Gate University. Within the government he is graduate of the National Defense University, the Defense Intelligence College, and the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center. He is a decorated Vietnam veteran, and also one of the Army’s first Space Intelligence Officers. He is also well-known as Anton LaVey’s (pronounced Ann-Ton Luh-Vay) senior official in the 1966-75 Church of Satan, and thereafter as the High Priest of the successor Temple of Set.

[Lunger]

Where is it?  Show me.

[Queen]

Eh, it still explains why the same 5 people call in to Dave's show each night.

Canni sing for you me noory can i day a poem mr noory

[dan7800]

His bio makes him seem like an interesting guest.

Pedofile though?

http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html

[jazmunda]

Tonight's Guest

Bio:

Michael Aquino, the author of the 2013 book MindWar, is a retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel with a forty -year career in Political-Military Affairs, Psychological Operations, Special Forces, and Intelligence. He received the Ph.D. in Political Science from the University of California and a Master’s in Public Administration from George Washington University, and has taught as a Professor of Political Science at Golden Gate University. Within the government he is graduate of the National Defense University, the Defense Intelligence College, and the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center. He is a decorated Vietnam veteran, and also one of the Army’s first Space Intelligence Officers. He is also well-known as Anton LaVey’s (pronounced Ann-Ton Luh-Vay) senior official in the 1966-75 Church of Satan, and thereafter as the High Priest of the successor Temple of Set.

Fresh meat. Seems like he is a C2CAM virgin so he hasn't been contaminated by Dave.

[SredniVashtar]

Fresh meat. Seems like he is a C2CAM virgin so he hasn't been contaminated by Dave.

I can only imagine the butchering Dave would give a guest like this. From a casual glance at the bio you see a sort-of sober-sided army guy giving us his views on world affairs, like Faddis last week, and then you see the Satanist bit at the end. Apparently he's also a professed neo-Nazi as well. Who was the guy Art had on a couple of times going on about Satanism? Aaron something? Anyway, sounds like an interview not to be missed.

[dan7800]

I can only imagine the butchering Dave would give a guest like this. From a casual glance at the bio you see a sort-of sober-sided army guy giving us his views on world affairs, like Faddis last week, and then you see the Satanist bit at the end. Apparently he's also a professed neo-Nazi as well. Who was the guy Art had on a couple of times going on about Satanism? Aaron something? Anyway, sounds like an interview not to be missed.

The only part of me that doesn't want to listen is the evidence I read about him performing satanic sex acts on 3-7 year old children.

[Heather Wade]

Fresh meat. Seems like he is a C2CAM virgin so he hasn't been contaminated by Dave.

Bateman did a good interview with this guy last winter (your Summer?).  Dave would be too scared of Dr. Aquino.

[nooryisawesome]

Fresh meat. Seems like he is a C2CAM virgin so he hasn't been contaminated by Dave.

I've heard him before on another radio show. I can't recall where.

[nooryisawesome]

Bateman did a good interview with this guy last winter.  Dave would be too scared of Dr. Aquino.

A-ha thank you kindly. That must have been the show I listened to. You replied while I made was typing my previous comment.

[CornyCrow]

I assume you mean the "liberal elite" who agree with 99 percent of the world's climatologists who have evidence backed data concerning climate change. I have a lot less problem with them than our 1 percenters like Koch brothers, Monsanto, and the oil companies who have spent millions to lull the "little people" into denying climate change while they continue to line their pockets at the expense of our and our children's future. I agree with sci fi that much can be done but not with the fat cats using their money and influence to constantly derail intelligent discourse on the subject

Thank you, TigerLily.  Those are my thoughts, too.  It is sad to see people being played by those corporate interests.  This should not be a matter of 'us against them', but a concern for all of us.  We should be pulling together in addressing this problem.

There is a natural rhythm to nature, as well.  No one denies that.  We are creating a monster out of a situation that already requires our concern.  In past climate situations animals who could, migrated to safer areas.  Mankind has populated the globe to the extent that what will be the hopefully 'safer areas' will not have room for all of us.

In these times, as climate changes, what if the areas that are left on which to grow are the most densely populated? 

This water situation in California, I fear, is just a taste of the future.  I am not in a frenzy.  Thank goodness, I can move or I will die before it gets really bad.  I have no children, so why should I worry about future generations?  But this is ALL of our responsibility.  It takes concerted effort.  On the whole, I like humanity.  We should continue.   

[WhiteCrow]

There have been animals in the past that have gone extinct by reproducing more than their environment can hold.  And, yes, the hope is that as we become less agrarian there is less of an economic need for children, in fact, kids become a liability, so we stop having them. 

That's the hope, anyway. 

Bill Gates once made that claim, that as populations did well, and as women held jobs, there would be fewer offsprintg.  He's since retracted on that comment, calling for intervention. 

Some scary claims are actually true warnings.  If you look at the environment and those who interact with it, you find problems almost everywhere we roam.  We are a plague on the face of the planet.  I think we are overly populated when we are living in areas that might have once been considered not suitable.  In the US the government often offers a cushion for those who live in risky areas, that and insurance companies.  We also offer a cushion for people who have children in spite of shaky jobs or even those who have no jobs.  If we pulled back such perks maybe people would use a bit of wisdom.

Yes, you are right.  Our economic model requires a constantly expanding consumer and tax base. 

We need a different form of government.  You can see all these 'world' issues pushing us into the feared 'One World Government' eventually, can't you?  We are in a situation in which, like it or not,  cooperation is going to be essential.

This stripping of rain forests, over fishing, pollution of the atmosphere, is not a joke and not to be taken lightly.  Go to your nearest college and ask some of the science teachers there what THEIR opinions are.  This environmental issue rocks a lot of economic boats.  There is big money hiring people to convince us that the facts lie.

"We are a plague on the face of the planet"
Considering the lessons learned from the history of mankind, ie we're a violent breed,  wouldn't a nuclear WWIII solve all these problems?
Then it will be just a question of time, until Mother Earth is all healed up again, with pretty flowers blooming and happy birds chirping.

[CornyCrow]

Obviously not a problem for you to get callers.  I'm still suffering from CABTD (calling Art Bell thumb dysplasia) from constant redialing and not getting through.  Btw how is the "start small and grow slowly" going?  . Any way to tell how many Time Travellers and total listeners from the first (awesome) week?

Is it a problem getting callers, or a need to control the dialog so that presenters of opposing opinions always appear to get beat down?  I don't know.  I don't listen.

It would be nice to get weekly/monthly figures on MITD, at least in the future as things progress.   

[SredniVashtar]

Then it will be just a question of time, until Mother Earth is all healed up again, with pretty flowers blooming and happy birds chirping.

I am okay with the pretty birds, but I hope that Mother Earth manages to get rid of wasps. And crows - hate those bloody things, waking me up too early with their racket.

[CornyCrow]

Yah, supposedly it was stopped. But....what's even more funny is that various hosts, like Rush, bitch about "seminar callers" (or something like that,) which I can also believe but apparently put up with (or knew) about paid corporate shills. There are claims, who knows if true, that "people" (companies, government, political activists, etc) pay people to post on forums. Wouldn't surprise me. Shills and various con-games are likely as old as the "oldest profession." Technology would, likely, make it even easier or more lucrative; and, maybe, effective?

This is a fact, not speculation.  I think oil companies were the first to do this.  It's no longer effective to just buy Congress people because the constituents rebel and these lousy free loaders do not get re-elected.  So business is now doing all it can to convince constituents that up is down, so to speak, and it works with some people. 

[CornyCrow]

The majority of actual climatologists know that AGW is not a real thing.  There is actually no evidence, none, of climate change.  Sea levels are not rising higher than normal..... Temperatures are not rising... Ice caps are not melting....

Get over it.  Climate change isn't a thing.  Government backed redistribution of wealth is.

I know you probably cannot tear yourself away from biased radio, but try to examine the facts on your own.  Go to your local college and interview the profs there.  You may be surprised. 

You know, you don't have to swallow all the talking points.  It is permissible to object to government backed redistribution . . . and still be concerned for man's destruction of our environment. 

[CornyCrow]

The only part of me that doesn't want to listen is the evidence I read about him performing satanic sex acts on 3-7 year old children.

I think there are philosophical Satanists, but there are others who are showmen, like Anton Lavey.  There is an element that needs to shock and even disgust the general public.  The Hellfire club had their group sex, which shocked the civilized world(but we are immune to that being shocking today), and now (if this is true) we have this ugliness. 

At least Crowley had the motto to (do what thou wilt - that thou harm none) of not harming others, not that he did not do that.  I cannot see in any way how a pedophile can think he is not harming the child. 

[CornyCrow]

"We are a plague on the face of the planet"
Considering the lessons learned from the history of mankind, ie we're a violent breed,  wouldn't a nuclear WWIII solve all these problems?
Then it will be just a question of time, until Mother Earth is all healed up again, with pretty flowers blooming and happy birds chirping.

Maybe I was a bit extreme.  I like humanity.  I think we CAN learn from our mistakes.  I think we are always a work in progress.  I think third world countries, where most of our problems lie, will some day enter modern times. 

I think most people are 'good' - want to do the right thing.  The ones whom I have known personally who were rotten were really mentally deranged.  I often wonder if the country had more accessible mental health facilities, if their lives would have turned out differently.  Some of those people were those for whom I worked.  Psychopaths are manipulative and will make large sacrifices to gain their ends.  The professions in which they are most prevalent are corporate managers and politicians - go figure.