Art Bell

[scottydawg]

Yay, Hooray! George Knapp is on tonight! Since Art isn't on , it's my 2nd Favorite Voice of overnight!
P.S. Dear Art, see if you could get Ian to come on for maybe 15 to 30 mins once a month, I miss the Cuddly Deacon!

[Mastodonkey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KxSV3F6kdI

[starrmtn001]

HERE IS THE BEST "MEN IN BLACK" FILMS EVER MADE! HERE IS THE SHADOW MEN, RELEASED IN 1997,
STARRING ERIC ROBERTS AND SHERILYN FENN!

Thank you FortRock.

[Jessicas Place]

Yay, Hooray! George Knapp is on tonight! Since Art isn't on , it's my 2nd Favorite Voice of overnight!
P.S. Dear Art, see if you could get Ian to come on for maybe 15 to 30 mins once a month, I miss the Cuddly Deacon!

Dear God don't let Art ask Ian Pipsqueak anywhere near his awesome rockin' gig!

[Sumthins Goin On]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KxSV3F6kdI

Finally real facts, no fudged data to warm Al Gorlioni's (the global warming Don) balls.
1957 was the highest sunspot count in modern times. DX was great. Not so great now.
It's warming on all the planets not just here on this rock. I remember snow heights when I was a kid (always tall) and just look at Boston (the homeland) this year. Snowfall and cold temps are increasing. What does it all mean? WTFKs....
Certainly not AL's forecast.

[jazmunda]

Phil Hendrie welcomes back Art:



http://www.philhendrieshow.com/category/ck1170-phil-pheed/

[nika01]

I am addressing, here, an objection to BIASED information - things that are not true.

The scientific consensus is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and that it is extremely likely (at least 95% probability) that humans are causing most of it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels.

The above is from Wikipedia.  So actually, the climate change deniers are those who are trying to propagandize the issue.   

We certainly all agree that pollution is not good for humanity or the planet.  We DO know the population is growing and the American middle class polluting lifestyle is the aspiration of most. 

Not all information is spin.

Excuse me..... China is responsible for the vast majority of the pollution in the world. Stop your blind hatred of the American middle class, no basis in fact.

[Art_s Farts]

Phil Hendrie welcomes back Art:



http://www.philhendrieshow.com/category/ck1170-phil-pheed/

This question isn't directed to you Jaz but does anyone know what Art means when he says before time runs out. Are the capping the membership numbers? That would be awesome if he has that many subscribers already.

[jazmunda]

This question isn't directed to you Jaz but does anyone know what Art means when he says before time runs out. Are the capping the membership numbers? That would be awesome if he has that many subscribers already.

Just a guess but he could be referring to the fact that if you take out a subscription now you are grandfathered in to the current price and that if you wait to take out a subscription at a later date it might be more expensive. I doubt that they are capping the membership numbers. No business in their right mind would do that if they are in the business of making money. "Before time runs out" could also be an attempt at a pun considering the Time Traveler name of the membership.

[GravitySucks]

I am addressing, here, an objection to BIASED information - things that are not true.

The scientific consensus is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and that it is extremely likely (at least 95% probability) that humans are causing most of it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels.

The above is from Wikipedia.  So actually, the climate change deniers are those who are trying to propagandize the issue.   

We certainly all agree that pollution is not good for humanity or the planet.  We DO know the population is growing and the American middle class polluting lifestyle is the aspiration of most. 

Not all information is spin.

Pollution is not growing in North America. Cite some sources. Co2 is not pollution. Without it all plants would suddenly die. Look at pictures of any of the rust belt cuties from the 60s. That was pollution. There used to be signs on the beach of Lake Erie saying don't touch the water. Now people fish Lake Erie. We have made major improvements, mostly in the 60s through 80s. The only thing that I am aware of that we haven't had the willingness to tackle is nuclear waste stockpiles.

[Art_s Farts]

Just a guess but he could be referring to the fact that if you take out a subscription now you are grandfathered in to the current price and that if you wait to take out a subscription at a later date it might be more expensive. I doubt that they are capping the membership numbers. No business in their right mind would do that if they are in the business of making money. "Before time runs out" could also be an attempt at a pun considering the Time Traveler name of the membership.

Never thought about the business end. You are right. I remember hearing or reading that the price might go up to $6.66 or something like that. Thanks for the reply mate.

[jazmunda]

Never thought about the business end. You are right. I remember hearing or reading that the price might go up to $6.66 or something like that. Thanks for the reply mate.

I believe the capping may be referring to capping the stream at 75,000 listeners due to the cost of music rights.

[HedgehogNorman]

Never thought about the business end. You are right. I remember hearing or reading that the price might go up to $6.66 or something like that. Thanks for the reply mate.

I think that's just the JC special rate.

I hope Art does Truth or Trash one of the open lines nights!

[DanTSX]

I am addressing, here, an objection to BIASED information - things that are not true.

The scientific consensus is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and that it is extremely likely (at least 95% probability) that humans are causing most of it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels.

The above is from Wikipedia.  So actually, the climate change deniers are those who are trying to propagandize the issue.   

We certainly all agree that pollution is not good for humanity or the planet.  We DO know the population is growing and the American middle class polluting lifestyle is the aspiration of most. 

Not all information is spin.

The American Middle Class is likely the most concientious consumer on the planet.

Who do you think is making the purchasing decisions to favor the building of hybrid automobiles, recycled products, other green products, and also drive the politicians to write the legislation that go against the corporate greed that doesn't care about pollution, and the folks that are too occupied surviving to be concerned about the environment?

Also, China and India are doing the polluting.  American industry is probably the cleanest in the world.

You sound like you are misapplying your understanding of reality to your hatred of the evil bourgeoisie.  Time to leave the protective bosom of the Occupy Wallstreet drum circle and college sophomore intellect, and do some world traveling.   It's an eye opener. 

[DanTSX]

Just saw you pouting in the corner.  Perhaps next time you will try harder when contacting broadcasters.

Lots of folks pulling childish pouting and whining here right now.  I wonder if this one will blame democracy or the American middle class for his pain and suffering as well.

[Catsmile]

  Look, there's still hope for even you. You really can rid yourself of all that bitterness and self-loathing. All that hatred bottled up inside of you. Trust me, you don't have to live like that way anymore.  I just think it's a shame you feel so angry all the time. Jesus does love you, whether you like it or not. And he is waiting

Deafening silence on the citation. The roll of science and the shroud? Goalpost rapidly moved.

Those are my feelings, really? Suppositions abound about feelings, intention, and faith. Intermingled with affirmations and proselytizing. Simple projection on your part. Honestly, your reply reads more like the inner dialogue of a person who is struggling with their sobriety and faith. One day at a time. Stay strong.

Hope plays an insignificant part in my belief system. However I can see how hope would play a major roll in Abrahamic religions. Hoping to appease God, for fear of being cast out. Betting your eternal existence on a single exalted power, hoping you picked the right horse in the Exalted Power Derby.

Second party affirmations of unconditional love is redundant. Creation loves all therein. When not bowed on knees fearfully groveling to an exalted power, begging eternal salvation. Unconditional love overflows unspoken.

Yes, Jesus loves all. Even those who reject his words, to become Christians. He is waiting... For the world to shed the coils of dogma, and take his actions and words to heart. He died for all the worlds sins. Love one another. Christianity needed more to create a Messiah than his climatic ending for their hook. 

[DanTSX]

That's true.  We've exported so much of our industry to China.  Now we appear to be looking cleaner (even with fewer jobs) and China appears to be the culprit.  Actually, I think Delhi, India, is dirtier than China.  Yes, people walk in certain areas with masks on their faces.  Doctors tell patients that moving is the best thing they can do for their sick children.  There is a high incidence of lung problems. 

On a brighter side, India seems to be curbing their population growth.

So, by your own admission, the evil American middle class is shrinking.

But we are to blame?

[TigerLily]

 Now that Art is back on and all is right in our world, I'm noticing we're getting back to bitch slapping each other. We need new goals, focus.  Any good ideas?  Ah, besides slapping me around for making this very innocuous observation

[weeberwubber]

Now that Art is back on and all is right in our world, I'm noticing we're getting back to bitch slapping each other. We need new goals, focus.  Any good ideas?  Ah, besides slapping me around for making this very innocuous observation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s

[Jackstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KxSV3F6kdI

I wish I had a daughter so I could tell her, "that's the kind of guy I would prefer you to pick to pay for your engagement ring."

[mikuthing01]

Yes, Jesus loves all. Even those who reject his words, to become Christians. He died for all the worlds sins. Love one another.

Universal Reconciliationist  eh?

I want to believe that as well. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Yes, Jesus loves all. Even those who reject his words, to become Christians. He is waiting... For the world to shed the coils of dogma, and take his actions and words to heart. He died for all the worlds sins. Love one another. Christianity needed more to create a Messiah than his climatic ending for their hook.

Not really. He died for committing an act of sedition against the Roman Empire. Crucifixion was reserved as a punishment for treasonous crimes against the state but what that crime was is not recorded in the NT, though I guess staking a royal claim might have been it, you know, King of the Jews and all.

I don't want to believe. I'm just here to enjoy myself while I can and then go into a nice painless oblivion similar to what it was like before I was born. Nothingness is good. I'm more worried about ending up as a ghost or something, now that would suck balls.

[DanTSX]

Not really. He died for committing an act of sedition against the Roman Empire. Crucifixion was reserved as a punishment for treasonous crimes against the state but what that crime was is not recorded in the NT, though I guess staking a royal claim might have been it, you know, King of the Jews and all.

I don't want to believe. I'm just here to enjoy myself while I can and then go into a nice painless oblivion similar to what it was like before I was born. Nothingness is good. I'm more worried about ending up as a ghost or something, now that would suck balls.

What was Pilliate's regret?

Who did he listen to?

[SciFiAuthor]

What was Pilliate's regret?

Who did he listen to?

I would imagine Pilate's big regret was pissing off the emperor and getting recalled back to Rome a few years after the crucifixion. That said, all the guy did was preside over a trial that was tinged with religion. Jesus was accused of a religious crime by the Sanhedrin but it had to have been ambiguous as hell because they had the full authority to stone him to death over it without consulting the Romans but they didn't stone him. Why? Something didn't quite match up for them on the religious side of things, probably the fact that he was calling them a bunch of crooks and they were and the public knew it.

So the Sanhedrin took it to Pilate, the Roman governor, to take care of and he washed his hands of the religious aspect but went ahead with the trial because some act of sedition against the Roman Empire had been committed, presumably Jesus of Nazareth's apparent claim to be a descendant of David, i.e. a claim to be the king of the Jews, and thus the famous INRI plaque the romans put on the cross mocking him for his claim.

Nothing to see here, just some guy in Judean politics in the early 1st century disturbing the powers that be and due to the media of the time, i.e. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ... and St. Paul, got blown out of proportion. Much like L. Ron Hubbard actually, he made a bet that he could create a religion and well, here we are with scientology. He did it. Imagine what the scientologists might be after a few centuries of growth.

[Jackstar]

Much like L. Ron Hubbard actually, he made a bet that he could create a religion and well, here we are with scientology. He did it. Imagine what the scientologists might be after a few centuries of growth.

[FightTheFuture]

Deafening silence on the citation. The roll of science and the shroud? Goalpost rapidly moved.

Those are my feelings, really? Suppositions abound about feelings, intention, and faith. Intermingled with affirmations and proselytizing. Simple projection on your part. Honestly, your reply reads more like the inner dialogue of a person who is struggling with their sobriety and faith. One day at a time. Stay strong.

Hope plays an insignificant part in my belief system. However I can see how hope would play a major roll in Abrahamic religions. Hoping to appease God, for fear of being cast out. Betting your eternal existence on a single exalted power, hoping you picked the right horse in the Exalted Power Derby.

Second party affirmations of unconditional love is redundant. Creation loves all therein. When not bowed on knees fearfully groveling to an exalted power, begging eternal salvation. Unconditional love overflows unspoken.

Yes, Jesus loves all. Even those who reject his words, to become Christians. He is waiting... For the world to shed the coils of dogma, and take his actions and words to heart. He died for all the worlds sins. Love one another. Christianity needed more to create a Messiah than his climatic ending for their hook.

You're a very angry person. There's no question about that. The only question is, why?  Why do you attack  so aggressively when there was not a scintilla of hostility directed at you?

I was engaged in a brief, light-hearted exchange with another poster. What compelled you to insert yourself so rudely and aggressively into that conversation? You instantly made it personal by mentioning  things from my past that I have never discussed with you, in a childish attempt to embarrass me ( not possible, btw). Apparently, you took note of a previous discussion I had with yet another member. Seems to be habit of yours. It's a little creepy, I have to tell you.

I don't have a thing in the world against you. Your  beliefs are your own, but I have a good deal of experience in dealing with folks who regularly project the kind of hostility you direct at me. And, it has  been my experience that those kind of people harbor some pretty serious anger issues.

But, to iterate, there is hope. Sure saved MY life.

[Zenman]

I don't want to believe. I'm just here to enjoy myself while I can and then go into a nice painless oblivion similar to what it was like before I was born. Nothingness is good. I'm more worried about ending up as a ghost or something, now that would suck balls.

Sci, how is that gonna suck balls any worse than coming out of the nice, relaxing nothingness into this world? lol

I'm mostly Taoist, so I'm also here to enjoy myself till I go back into the nice oblivion. And I spend a certain amount of time meditating and practicing Chi Gong to try to replicate the relaxing nothingness. I'm pretty sure tho that the ghost thing, if it exists, is just a transition between the nothingness and the non-nothingness (yin and yang) for those who need it.

[Meister_000]

Tonight's Guest:
http://artbell.com/july-27-2015-grant-cameron/

July 27, 2015: Grant Cameron
POSTED ON JULY 27, 2015
Website: presidentialufo.com

Bio:

Grant Cameron became involved in Ufology as the Vietnam War ended in May 1975 with personal sightings of an object which locally became known as Charlie Red Star. The sightings occurred in Carman, Manitoba about 25 miles north of the Canada-US border. Hundreds of other people sighted objects at the same time during a prolonged flap of sightings.

Over the next 18 months he had many sightings of large objects and small (monitor) objects in the area. He spent countless days in the area photographing a series of strange objects and interviewing hundreds of witnesses who were involved.

These interviews became part of a manuscript called “Tales of Charlie Red Star,” which is in the process of being published. Stories from the book will also be part of a movie that is being planned out of Toronto Canada on the contactee group RAMA.

POSTED IN GUESTS

[gdwarner]

Bio:

Grant Cameron became involved in Ufology as the Vietnam War ended in May 1975 with personal sightings of an object which locally became known as Charlie Red Star. The sightings occurred in Carman, Manitoba about 25 miles north of the Canada-US border. Hundreds of other people sighted objects at the same time during a prolonged flap of sightings.

This should be good ... Grant is always a good guest.

[CornyCrow]

Excuse me..... China is responsible for the vast majority of the pollution in the world. Stop your blind hatred of the American middle class, no basis in fact.

Where did I say that I hated the American middle class?   On the contrary, everyone should have it so good.  But for that to happen, there would have to be a lot fewer of us. 

In another post, I mentioned China.  We have exported our factory manufacturing to China, and now on measurement it appears that we are polluting less, and China more.  India actually has places which are more deadly than China.

We are not going to lower our lifestyle to eating rice all day so the solution to the pollution must involve a decreased population to some extent.  THe problem is, most of our political/economic systems depend on a constantly expanding consumer/tax base.  We must think of some different way because what we are now doing is unsustainable.