Art Bell

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

[ge30542]

I don' get it.

[Morgus]

Wasn't there rumors that the cost of using commercial bumper music on internet streaming programs after Jan 1, 2016 would get really expensive?
I thought Keith Rowland would have to change the use of commercial bumper music on MITD by now, but Heather is still able to use Art's bumper music on the live stream each night.
Odd since Keith is trying to cut the network's expenses now...
In contrast, Hoagland only uses non-commercial bumper music on his shows to reduce the cost.

Did the price just not go up as of yet for streaming commercial music, or was that just a false rumor?

[ge30542]

it was mentioned in here that the cost was in fact increasing.

[Meister_000]

I deserved the whipping and you were correct in ostracizing me.
I was on my iPhone and meant to quote the idiot that posted below yours.

/self reported

Alright, no prob. Thanks for clearing it up, and sorry for going-off on you. I was taken aback, and these days anything is believable on this crazy board!  Battle fatigue is setting in. Thanks.

[Meister_000]

Apologizes Meister, if you read my post to you before I deleted it.  It was a misunderstanding.

Hi Starr; No, luckily, I didn't see it. Gravity PMed me and appologized though.

BTW, I replied to your Avitar post elsewhere last week with my guesses regarding it, but never got confirmation from you. Still waiting!

[Sean92008]

Wasn't there rumors that the cost of using commercial bumper music on internet streaming programs after Jan 1, 2016 would get really expensive?
I thought Keith Rowland would have to change the use of commercial bumper music on MITD by now, but Heather is still able to use Art's bumper music on the live stream each night.
Odd since Keith is trying to cut the network's expenses now...
In contrast, Hoagland only uses non-commercial bumper music on his shows to reduce the cost.

Did the price just not go up as of yet for streaming commercial music, or was that just a false rumor?

I think that part of the pricing was the number of subscribers/listeners...  7k?  70k?  During the pre-launch drama where Art was threatening to quit before starting, that was the point made... 

[Sean92008]

I don' get it.

Jaden Smith is the product of an open marriage and some crazy-assed lunacy.  Trying to be deep (philosophical), he only looks like the 4th grade dropout he, no doubt, would be if his parents didn't have money.

[Meister_000]

Wasn't there rumors that the cost of using commercial bumper music on internet streaming programs after Jan 1, 2016 would get really expensive?
I thought Keith Rowland would have to change the use of commercial bumper music on MITD by now, but Heather is still able to use Art's bumper music on the live stream each night.
Odd since Keith is trying to cut the network's expenses now...
In contrast, Hoagland only uses non-commercial bumper music on his shows to reduce the cost.

Did the price just not go up as of yet for streaming commercial music, or was that just a false rumor?

CRB Announces Webcasting Royalty Rates for 2016-2020 â€" Lower Rates for Broadcasters Who Stream, Minimal Change for Pureplay Webcasters
Dec 17th, 2015

http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/2015/12/articles/crb-announces-webcasting-royalty-rates-for-2016-2020-lower-rates-for-broadcasters-who-stream-minimal-change-for-pureplay-webcasters/

"The Copyright Royalty Board yesterday announced on its website the royalty rates that webcasters will pay to SoundExchange for the use of sound recordings in their digital transmissions over the Internet and to mobile devices in the period from 2016-2020.  For commercial webcasters, the CRB set $.0017 as the per performance (i.e. the rate paid per song, per listener) rate for nonsubscription streaming, and $.0022 per performance for subscription streaming.  For most webcasters, including broadcasters, this represents a drop of approximately 1/3 in the rates paid â€" perhaps the first time in any CRB proceeding that rates decreased as the result of a CRB decision.

The rates and terms adopted by the CRB for this statutory license can be found here.  http://www.loc.gov/crb/  (somewhere!)

. . . The decision also set the rates for noncommercial webcasters â€" essentially leaving those rates at $500 per year per channel doing no more than 159,140 of aggregate tuning hours of streaming.  At listening hours above those rates, a large noncommercial webcaster would pay at the $.0017 per performance rates . . .

. . .The rates are far lower than those requested by SoundExchange, which had proposed rates starting at $.0025 per performance and increasing yearly to $.0029 by 2020  . . .

Most of the royalty terms appear to be pretty much unchanged from prior years . . .

. . . What may have surprised many observers is that these rates do not make any special allowances for small webcasters.  Under prior webcaster settlement agreements, small commercial webcasters were able to pay based on a percentage of their revenue, and there were special provisions for small broadcasters to avoid some of the regulatory burden.  There were no small commercial webcasters who litigated this proceeding â€" and thus there was no evidence from which the Judges could arrive at a small commercial webcaster rate . . .

. . . for many in the webcasting industry, these rates appear to be generally good news and certainly not the calamity that could have occurred had the SoundExchange proposal been adopted. . . ." 

[pate]

Wow, us wow.

Lat '71 eighty fife.

Eighty fife,magpipes, lawd....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8LUd51IuiA

[TigerLily]

That is why towels and sheets should be sturdy and white, so you can alternate a hot-water-and-bleach wash with your clothes.  Colored towels are a menace to sanitation.

Just what do you do with your towels? Never mind. Don't want to know

[TigerLily]

slow news day. first login since last night and still on the same page

It's become a troll free zone  Maybe we finally bored them to death or used too many big words and they went away

[GravitySucks]

It's become a troll free zone  Maybe we finally bored them to death or used too many big words and they went away

It's nicer now with you here.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

. . . The decision also set the rates for noncommercial webcasters â€" essentially leaving those rates at $500 per year per channel doing no more than 159,140 of aggregate tuning hours of streaming.  At listening hours above those rates, a large noncommercial webcaster would pay at the $.0017 per performance rates . . .

Is that a lot or a little bit of hours?

[GravitySucks]

Is that a lot or a little bit of hours?

I don't do math after midnight.

3 hours per day time 5 days per week times 52 weeks. Take that number and divide it into the 153k listener hours. That how many listeners they could have for $500.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I don't do math after midnight.

3 hours per day time 5 days per week times 52 weeks. Take that number and divide it into the 153k listener hours. That how many listeners they could have for $500.

Something like 192 listeners. Jimmy Church is in the clear.

[TigerLily]

It's nicer now with you here.

Thanks GravitySweet. Sorry your Houston boys had such a rough day. Poor Brian. Hard not to feel a bit sorry for him

[GravitySucks]

Thanks GravitySweet. Sorry your Houston boys had such a rough day. Poor Brian. Hard not to feel a bit sorry for him

They should have pulled Hoyer at the half. Painful game to watch.

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJDIvuJ9z4

EDIOT: Geausx Cats!@

[Meister_000]

Is that a lot or a little bit of hours?

I know nothing about this stuff, just grabbed the link.
First though, I don't think Art qualifies as "Non-Commercial". In any event, for curiosity's sake (rounding off):

160,000 consumed hours annual is not much . . .

60 hrs per-listener per month (3hrs x 20 shows)
720 hrs per-listener per year (60x 12)

720 x 222 unique individuals = 159,840 hrs annual

[Edit: I probably should have used the 52 weeks formula, per Gravity's post, but it's still good enough to tell "it's not many"]

[TigerLily]

EDIOT: Geausx Cats!@

Hi pate  Does this mean you're a Panthers fan?

[pate]

Hi pate  Does this mean you're a Panthers fan?

Cougar, MountAin('t) Lyon, &c.  Or real 'murican lygars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XVMfNIJ53I -or- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4C7vSByMM Not Sure...

[Jackstar]

Not Sure...

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hetaBX00wtI

[WOTR]

Freedom of speech of course.

This is my own fault... But that really is horrible. 

[SredniVashtar]

It's become a troll free zone  Maybe we finally bored them to death or used too many big words and they went away

Definitely the former. Five minutes of you would turn the most abandoned Roman orgy into something as exciting as a church jumble sale. 

[Roswells, Art]

[Dr. MD MD]

Definitely the former. Five minutes of you would turn the most abandoned Roman orgy into something as exciting as a church jumble sale. 

Meh. Different strokes for different folks. I'd hardly call what the 4chan crew has been doing a "Roman orgy." Most of them haven't even been laid yet  Regardless, after I've been Roman orgying for awhile I sometimes long for the more serene life of the mind and so did the Romans, as I'm sure you know. They were actually people of pretty diverse interests who unfairly get reduced to the behavior of the era when things began to crumble for them. As fun as Caligula and throwing poo can be some of us desire a little more intellect and creativity. That's more exciting to me than a church jumble sale, which I've never been to and don't even really know what that is.

[Yorkshire pud]

Meh. Different strokes for different folks. I'd hardly call what the 4chan crew has been doing a "Roman orgy." Most of them haven't even been laid yet  Regardless, after I've been Roman orgying for awhile I sometimes long for the more serene life of the mind and so did the Romans, as I'm sure you know. They were actually people of pretty diverse interests who unfairly get reduced to the behavior of the era when things began to crumble for them. As fun as Caligula and throwing poo can be some of us desire a little more intellect and creativity. That's more exciting to me than a church jumble sale, which I've never been to and don't even really know what that is.

I hope this is helpful:

Jumble Sale Massacre

The greatest number of old ladies to perish whilst fighting at a jumble sale is 98, at a Methodist Church Hall in Castleford, West Yorkshire on February 12th, 1991.

When the doors opened at 10.00am, the initial scramble to get in cost 16 lives, a further 25 being killed in a crush at the first table. A seven-way skirmish then broke out over a pinafore dress costing 10p which escalated into a full scale melée resulting in another 18 lives being lost. A pitched battle over a headscarf then ensued and quickly spread throughout the hall, claiming 39 old women.

The jumble sale raised £5.28 for local boy scouts.

[GravitySucks]

I hope this is helpful:

No wonder the "southerners" find you uncouth.