George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Gassy Man]

Because it is relatively rare, is malleable but not too soft, and lasts a long time. In addition to more rare modern usages you mentioned. (The fact that it is not useful for ordinary life, manufacturing, etc is actually a "plus" for use as a currency, or basis for it.) The 'bad' side of gold is the same scarcity and complaints of less availability/credit (hence some like silver, especially in rural areas or due to the potentiallly more investment available.)
ps: it is hard to use simply the US dollar as the reason pro/con for a gold (or silver) standard as other fiat currencies see way more fluctuations and people/investors/countries tend to flee to the dollar as it is (at least for now) seen as stable and people accept the 'full faith & credit' of the US (at least for now.)
-GNS
What would C2C be like if Blavatsky never wrote her stuff? Are there any guests left who don't believe in the bs of ascended master, vibrations, frequencies, etc?

The people who push gold do it for two reasons:  1) To generate interest in gold, creating a run on it, driving the prices higher so that those who have it are richer, and/or B) Out of an outdated, irrational fear that fiat money is some day going to just disappear.

Here's the problems with gold:

1)  Just because it's valued at $1,000 an ounce doesn't mean that's what you can sell it for.
2)  Governments can and have confiscated gold from private holdings.
3)  If society breaks down where fiat is no longer accepted, handing someone a hunk of rock isn't going to afford much protection or be practical.
4)  "Money" is illusory no matter what it's called or its source.  People only place value on something because they think it's valuable and not because of some inherent property.  If society breaks down to the degree that money as we know it is no longer viable, there'll be much bigger problems than whether or not we're on a gold standard.

[Kojiro]

The people who push gold do it for two reasons:  1) To generate interest in gold, creating a run on it, driving the prices higher so that those who have it are richer, and/or B) Out of an outdated, irrational fear that fiat money is some day going to just disappear.

Well, to be fair, the Weimar Republic and Zimbabwe have both given historical examples of what happens when a fiat system gets out of control.

[LadyFish]

  There is no reason, out side of some mean spirited motivation to continually niggle, nitpick and bash George Norry.  He has actually done Art a service by maintaining the audience base for him until his return.  Think about it; if the Coast to Coast show dispersed after Art left; it would mean he would have to start over from scratch.  This way, the way it is now, is perfect for Art.  The audience base is waiting for him.  You guys should be thanking George for keeping the spirit alive for Art's return.
Now, isn't that a better perspective?  Stop the mean nitpicking CRAP children.
Did you like my toxic fluid?  I'll give you another sip later when I think you need a dose.

Dave has done no favors for Art. If Dave was a decent interviewer and C2C had stayed on track, Art would not have even contemplated coming out of retirement. Most of Art's audience has left as C2C has changed - Art has even said that there is room for both of them, as Dave's changed to show so much for the worse that the current audience is not the same audience that had listened to him.

I don't listen to C2C anymore and I enjoy reading this thread to keep up to date on the suckage. Please don't discourage the nitpickers as they are very entertaining and remind me why I quit listening to C2C.

[Dateline]

I did not finish my sentence last evening.  You are the worst at microwaving pizza rolls.  On that all can agree. 

[Izintit?]

All this nitpicking is unnecessary.  What are you doing?  Are you hanging on every word waiting for a slip of the tongue so you can rag on George some more?  How moronically anal can you get?  Art will be back in a short while.  When he does we can expect the same quality shows he is noted for.  Art's presentation is unique and he uses his voice well; that's given.  Coast to coast present listeners will switch in droves once Art's show resumes.  There is no reason, out side of some mean spirited motivation to continually niggle, nitpick and bash George Norry.  He has actually done Art a service by maintaining the audience base for him until his return.  Think about it; if the Coast to Coast show dispersed after Art left; it would mean he would have to start over from scratch.  This way, the way it is now, is perfect for Art.  The audience base is waiting for him.  You guys should be thanking George for keeping the spirit alive for Art's return.
Now, isn't that a better perspective?  Stop the mean nitpicking CRAP children.
Did you like my toxic fluid?  I'll give you another sip later when I think you need a dose.

Okay, so this is one of you regulars trying to jumpstart the thread again after Pate`s bourbon binge and the curious shutdown no doubt caused by the invisible hand of Noory? Or perhaps this is one of the trolls George mentioned that "like him but can `t say so on bellgab"? Either way Toxic Fluid is right about one thing- Noory does have the audience yearning for Art`s return.  Come back anytime,Noory Koolaid,er Toxic Fluid, whenever you feel we need a "dose".

[CornyCrow]

Dave has done no favors for Art. If Dave was a decent interviewer and C2C had stayed on track, Art would not have even contemplated coming out of retirement. Most of Art's audience has left as C2C has changed - Art has even said that there is room for both of them, as Dave's changed to show so much for the worse that the current audience is not the same audience that had listened to him.

I don't listen to C2C anymore and I enjoy reading this thread to keep up to date on the suckage. Please don't discourage the nitpickers as they are very entertaining and remind me why I quit listening to C2C.

Yeah.  I notice that on weekends with guest hosts, even though Dave seems to give them more difficult guests, they often get more thoughtful questions and callers with a higher IQ. 

I never used to follow which guests were on Art's shows because some who sounded dull were interesting.  Art has a way of drawing out the best in a guest, while with Dave the guest has to manipulate around him.  It's probably my radio, but I swear he called himself George Snorey a few nights ago. 

[ItsOver]

Yeah.  I notice that on weekends with guest hosts, even though Dave seems to give them more difficult guests, they often get more thoughtful questions and callers with a higher IQ. 

I never used to follow which guests were on Art's shows because some who sounded dull were interesting.  Art has a way of drawing out the best in a guest, while with Dave the guest has to manipulate around him.  It's probably my radio, but I swear he called himself George Snorey a few nights ago.

Ha, ha, ha.  Snorey.  I'm waiting for when he's on air and calls himself Dave.

[Nick el Ass]

All this nitpicking is unnecessary.  What are you doing?  Are you hanging on every word waiting for a slip of the tongue so you can rag on George some more?  How moronically anal can you get?  Art will be back in a short while.  When he does we can expect the same quality shows he is noted for.  Art's presentation is unique and he uses his voice well; that's given.  Coast to coast present listeners will switch in droves once Art's show resumes.  There is no reason, out side of some mean spirited motivation to continually niggle, nitpick and bash George Norry.  He has actually done Art a service by maintaining the audience base for him until his return.  Think about it; if the Coast to Coast show dispersed after Art left; it would mean he would have to start over from scratch.  This way, the way it is now, is perfect for Art.  The audience base is waiting for him.  You guys should be thanking George for keeping the spirit alive for Art's return.
Now, isn't that a better perspective?  Stop the mean nitpicking CRAP children.
Did you like my toxic fluid?  I'll give you another sip later when I think you need a dose.

Maintaining the audience?!? Art had 400 affiliates and 12 million listeners, and since George took over he has added 200 affiliates... but managed to lose 10+ million listeners in the process (how the hell he keeps his job is beyond me.) That is hardly maintaining things. I have a feeling the reason the mustachioed moron is so afraid to have a Ouija Board show out of fear that the the ghost of Coast to Coast AM might pop up and blame him for killing it. No one sits and waits for a slip up to happen, but every single night they happen without fail because Noory doesn't care about anything.

[coaster]

All this nitpicking is unnecessary.  What are you doing?  Are you hanging on every word waiting for a slip of the tongue so you can rag on George some more?  How moronically anal can you get?  Art will be back in a short while.  When he does we can expect the same quality shows he is noted for.  Art's presentation is unique and he uses his voice well; that's given.  Coast to coast present listeners will switch in droves once Art's show resumes.  There is no reason, out side of some mean spirited motivation to continually niggle, nitpick and bash George Norry.  He has actually done Art a service by maintaining the audience base for him until his return.  Think about it; if the Coast to Coast show dispersed after Art left; it would mean he would have to start over from scratch.  This way, the way it is now, is perfect for Art.  The audience base is waiting for him.  You guys should be thanking George for keeping the spirit alive for Art's return.
Now, isn't that a better perspective?  Stop the mean nitpicking CRAP children.
Did you like my toxic fluid?  I'll give you another sip later when I think you need a dose.

Hi Dave.

[Nick el Ass]

Hi Dave.

I figured it was Tommy.

[coaster]

I figured it was Tommy.

If it was Tommy, his reply would be monosyllabic. "They were wrong" "Who cares" "Stop with the gay stuff" etc etc.

[ziznak]

soooo can anybody suggest a good recent show?  I'm thinking something knapp might have done?  lately when I try to listen on the youtoobs I end up changing to some jfk or ancient egypt documentaries.

[Nick el Ass]

The ratings for May are out, and soon Noory will be in the same company as Dennis Miller... and even though he recently claime the 6th spot on the list he is actually tied for 6th while being at the bottom of the bunch.

[albrecht]

soooo can anybody suggest a good recent show?  I'm thinking something knapp might have done?  lately when I try to listen on the youtoobs I end up changing to some jfk or ancient egypt documentaries.

Good recent show on C2C ! Recently even Knapp has been given some bad guests and has to use the ridiculous "split show" format, so you get maybe a decent guest you cannot go in depth and get some bad guest after. If you are into the mafia and true crime he has had a few interesting guests in the past months, I guess.
-GNS

[136 or 142]

Because it is relatively rare, is malleable but not too soft, and lasts a long time. In addition to more rare modern usages you mentioned. (The fact that it is not useful for ordinary life, manufacturing, etc is actually a "plus" for use as a currency, or basis for it.) The 'bad' side of gold is the same scarcity and complaints of less availability/credit (hence some like silver, especially in rural areas or due to the potentiallly more investment available.)
ps: it is hard to use simply the US dollar as the reason pro/con for a gold (or silver) standard as other fiat currencies see way more fluctuations and people/investors/countries tend to flee to the dollar as it is (at least for now) seen as stable and people accept the 'full faith & credit' of the US (at least for now.)
-GNS
What would C2C be like if Blavatsky never wrote her stuff? Are there any guests left who don't believe in the bs of ascended master, vibrations, frequencies, etc?

Other than Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe, I'm not familiar with any other major western country that has had problems with using fiat currency, at least not in the past 25-30 years.  Maybe a few Western European countries that have had bad governance, but they are now under the control of the E.U Central Bank.

The experience of the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and Australia over the past 25-30 years certainly show that no gold standard is needed to maintain a stable monetary system. And, as a pointed out in my first post, countries that used the gold standard didn't have a stable monetary system.

[albrecht]

Other than Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe, I'm not familiar with any other major western country that has had problems with using fiat currency, at least not in the past 25-30 years.  Maybe a few Western European countries that have had bad governance, but they are now under the control of the E.U Central Bank.

Tell that to a Greek or Cypriot! (Or Argentinian, Mexican, Brazilian, etc etc.) And much of Europe, particularly former Soviet Bloc countries in the 90's. But all problems aren't necessarily just due to having a fiat currency, of course. There is also the "moral" question of having unelected people, or private entities, with so much power over supposedly democratic or parliamentarian societies (like the International Bank of Settlements, IMF, WB, in addition to Central Banks.)
-GNS

[136 or 142]

Tell that to a Greek or Cypriot! (Or Argentinian, Mexican, Brazilian, etc etc.) And much of Europe, particularly former Soviet Bloc countries in the 90's. But all problems aren't necessarily just due to having a fiat currency, of course. There is also the "moral" question of having unelected people, or private entities, with so much power over supposedly democratic or parliamentarian societies (like the International Bank of Settlements, IMF, WB, in addition to Central Banks.)
-GNS

I'm not familiar outside of Greece or Cyprus of any country with an independent central bank having problems with inflation since the mid to late 1980s.

[zeebo]

Another riveteen c2c on-deck for tonite.  Shplit show: Alternative Health Informercial & Public Education Reforms Lecture.  Can't wait to just let my mind drift into the enthralling mysteries we'll encounter.

[Kojiro]

I'm not familiar outside of Greece or Cyprus of any country with an independent central bank having problems with inflation since the mid to late 1980s.

Part of the cause for Yugoslavia's collapse and breakup was its major economic crisis.

[136 or 142]

Part of the cause for Yugoslavia's collapse and breakup was its major economic crisis.

I highly doubt Yugoslavia had an independent central bank.

[NoMoreNoory]

Another riveteen c2c on-deck for tonite.  Shplit show: Alternative Health Informercial & Public Education Reforms Lecture.  Can't wait to just let my mind drift into the enthralling mysteries we'll encounter.

I assume we have a teacher discussing health, followed by a doctor on education reform?

Good to see everyone made it out of the worm-hole OK.........even Pate.

-GNS

[Izintit?]

Another riveteen c2c on-deck for tonite.  Shplit show: Alternative Health Informercial & Public Education Reforms Lecture.  Can't wait to just let my mind drift into the enthralling mysteries we'll encounter.

Wow,what a show. It`s almost like Noory is intentionally trying to drive his numbers down. P.S. I like your Jedi Squirrel

[albrecht]

I'm not familiar outside of Greece or Cyprus of any country with an independent central bank having problems with inflation since the mid to late 1980s.

As I said central banks aren't the only cause of too high inflation and other economic woes but fiat money mismanaged (some argue intrinsically) can cause economic problems. Argentina, Russia, Iran,  right now come to mind also inflation-wise.

You also avoided the larger question which is the correctness of allowing unelected, often foreign, entities and people hold so much power over people that, supposedly, live in democratic republic or parliamentarian democracy.
-->send to politics thread
Funny last night with the gloomy caller that disliked all of Norry's solutions and how Norry got back at him with the doping guest claiming his had "bad spirits" or some such. Also, I note often Norry says "wrap this thing up"- even HE doesn't like the show and wants it over.
-GNS

[zeebo]

Wow,what a show. It`s almost like Noory is intentionally trying to drive his numbers down. P.S. I like your Jedi Squirrel

Thanks Iz, when bellgab crashed I took some time away in the Dagobah system, and picked up a few new tricks.

[136 or 142]

As I said central banks aren't the only cause of too high inflation and other economic woes but fiat money mismanaged (some argue intrinsically) can cause economic problems. Argentina, Russia, Iran,  right now come to mind also inflation-wise.

You also avoided the larger question which is the correctness of allowing unelected, often foreign, entities and people hold so much power over people that, supposedly, live in democratic republic or parliamentarian democracy.
-->send to politics thread
Funny last night with the gloomy caller that disliked all of Norry's solutions and how Norry got back at him with the doping guest claiming his had "bad spirits" or some such. Also, I note often Norry says "wrap this thing up"- even HE doesn't like the show and wants it over.
-GNS

1.I don't believe there is a problem with an unelected central bank having authority over the short term interest rate and the money supply as long as the bank operates under the mandate passed by Congress and as long as the Chair is nominated by the President and approved by the Senate.

Contrast that with the gold standard where the power over these things is given to gold mining companies mostly operating in China, Russia and South Africa.

2.I quit on the second guest after 1/2 hour. Did she continue her cackling/screaming?  She made that noise 3 times in the first segment.

[albrecht]

1.I don't believe there is a problem with an unelected central bank having authority over the short term interest rate and the money supply as long as the bank operates under the mandate passed by Congress and as long as the Chair is nominated by the President and approved by the Senate.

Contrast that with the gold standard where the power over these things is given to gold mining companies mostly operating in China, Russia and South Africa.

2.I quit on the second guest after 1/2 hour. Did she continue her cackling/screaming?  She made that noise 3 times in the first segment.

1. Yeah, IF they are operating in the nation's best interest. Let me ask you this question: in normal, daily life do you reckon most banks are operating for their customer's best interest or for the interests of their management and shareholders? If "no" is the answer than why assume a group of private banks would operate in the country's (or group of countries in the case of the ECB, BIS, etc) best interest?
ps: I suggest this as a read. Just the initial personalities and people involved should cause people to question, besides the economic stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/Tower-Basel-Shadowy-History-Secret/dp/161039254X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431476294&sr=8-1&keywords=international+bank+of+settlements
2. She sucked and Norry sucked but she stayed around until the end. The usual "vibrations" and New Age stuff.

[nextgen.fm]

GORGE

I have warned u!~

I want a good show every night!

Bye!

[136 or 142]

1. Yeah, IF they are operating in the nation's best interest. Let me ask you this question: in normal, daily life do you reckon most banks are operating for their customer's best interest or for the interests of their management and shareholders? If "no" is the answer than why assume a group of private banks would operate in the country's (or group of countries in the case of the ECB, BIS, etc) best interest?
ps: I suggest this as a read. Just the initial personalities and people involved should cause people to question, besides the economic stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/Tower-Basel-Shadowy-History-Secret/dp/161039254X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431476294&sr=8-1&keywords=international+bank+of+settlements
2. She sucked and Norry sucked but she stayed around until the end. The usual "vibrations" and New Age stuff.

The Federal Reserve being a 'private bank' is a myth.  It is privately financed as when it was set up by Woodrow Wilson he ordered the private banks at the time to "buy" shares in order to finance its initial set up and operation, however the mandate of the Federal Reserve is under the law passed by Congress, the majority of directors on the Federal Reserve (and the regional banks) are appointed by the President (or the Treasury Secretary) and any profit made by the Fed is sent back to the Federal Treasury.  Those are the normal standards that accountants and lawyers look at to see who really has control, and by all measures, it's the government.

I don't know if a single Chair of the Federal Reserve has ever worked for a bank before, at least not in a senior capacity. They are expected to be economists not bankers.

Given that bankers would prefer higher interest rates, as that would improve their 'spread', I don't see how you can argue given this lengthy period of allegedly 'easy money' that the Federal Reserve (or indeed the ECB, the Canadian or Australian Central Bank) is operating for the benefit of private bankers.

[akwilly]

wow the lineup on c2c tonight couldn't be more uninteresting

[ItsOver]

wow the lineup on c2c tonight couldn't be more uninteresting

Thank goodness there's a competent, fascinating host at the helm.  Oh, wait.