Random Political Thoughts

[VtaGeezer]

Its ridiculous that this is a BIG national story. 

[albrecht]

Rachel Dolezal has resigned according to a letter from her which was posted Monday on the NAACP Spokane Facebook page.

I've been following this train-wreck because it is so bizarre. I wonder if she got affirmative action or special race-based scholarships at Howard University since she was white when she went there? I hope she also is investigated for her claims of various "hate" crimes. I'm guessing she faked those also, as so commonly happens.

The Dolezal situation reminds of that classic comedy "Soul Man" (1986) in which C. Thomas Howell pretends to be black so he can get to attend Harvard.

Bush officially "in." Yawn. I only watched a bit but noticed that much of his announcement was done in Spanish.

[Zenman]

I heard she uses a brown felt pen to get her color.

Now I don't feel quite so embarrassed about using a felt pen to fill in the grey spots in my beard.

[Up All Night]

Now... a Sex Tape 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127173/Rachel-Dolezal-SEX-TAPE-ex-husband-forced-perform-sex-acts-camera-against-claimed-court-papers.html

[136 or 142]

Now... a Sex Tape 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127173/Rachel-Dolezal-SEX-TAPE-ex-husband-forced-perform-sex-acts-camera-against-claimed-court-papers.html

I haven't seen it, but I understand she's having sex with Michael Jackson.  So, just a boring video of two white people.

[3OctaveFart]

I sense a lot of opportunism here but that rebel flag is coming down. There's something different in the wind.

[FightTheFuture]

This just in...

Obama's brain -- AKA Valerie Jarrett -- comes from a family of commies. Folks never saw this one coming:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Its ridiculous that this is a BIG national story.

Thank you Jesus, I felt like I was the only one who felt this way.

I honestly couldn't care less. I don't see a lot of people lining up to go to Spokane or Aryan Fuckin' Idaho to tell those people maybe these shouldn't be so mean to black people.

The thing that infuriates me is in all this bitching, no one said what kind of job she was doing. If she was doing a good job as the President of that local NAACP chapter, I couldn't care less if she's trans-racial, poka-dotted, zebra stripped, whatever.

This whole thing has disgusted me because it shows how conservative liberals are becoming. WHAT??? SHE WASN'T CONFORMING TO OUR ARCHAIC AND PREJUDICED NOTIONS OF RACE??? BURN HER!!!

[albrecht]

http://www.politico.eu/article/labour-hamas-london-ira/
I guess this is the usual "useful idiots" and "enemy of my enemy is my friend" but it is interesting how this leftists get along. If you've ever attended an anti-war rally, or even an Occupy, you see such a diverse crowd of people (or small group of people depending on the day, concerts, etc.) But how can they all get along? One would think, logically, by the nature of the groups and people it would descend into fighting; not coalitions. Bizarre to me. Either they don't really believe their issues or are just very calculating that the main, first, goal is to end Western Civilization and governance as it was known and then, later, they can fight over the conflicting political, religious, racial, economic, conspiracies, beliefs, etc? Or do some think they will be able to control the situation after the "system" falls and the rich people supporting the leftist causes can just step in and control everything? (But I thought the conspiracy theory goes that the rich people ALREADY control everything?)

[albrecht]

All the pot going around helps (speaking from experience) and these people don't know what they want. They have a bunch of generic words in their heads but no idea of whos leading or manipulating them. They don't want to feel powerless and they want to have some of the revolutionary spirit of 1960s and the revolutionary spirit thats largely built into American DNA. But its all largely stupid and pointless.


I went to Occupy rallies. It was pretty fucking stupid. But good dope and not horribly unattractive hippy chicks.

Hope you had fun  there. Likely that is all it  was good for.

I will give the Europeans a bit of credit. Aside from our blacks, they will actually try to do something, even sometimes violent, about whatever perceived injustice, soccer match result, or environmental concern they have during a given protest day. Granted they, especially with related to certain economies and immigration, have more real problems but it still in interesting to see the odd coalitions of protesters. I was at a huge one in London decade ago or so and it was a bizarre mix of ancient pensioners with signs some Red anti-nuke party, Islamic activists, Greenpeace types, Anti-Nuke people, Palestinian Supporters, Labour, IRA or Sein Fien types, students bitching about fees, and homosexual activists (and who knows whatever else. I saw a bunch of Cuban flags even ) Amazingly funny incident. 3 Australian (? as I recall) went out of a pub and attacked a couple of the marchers. They were drunk, of course, in town for a  match of some sort (cricket, rugby?) they mentioned it after but I forget. It was classic. No one in the crowd, and even the victims, couldn't/wouldn't defend themselves. 3 against potential thousands! And, according to the drunk Aussies, they really just wanted to cross the street but didn't like people not letting them and then someone with an offensive sign or some stuff. Classic. All in good fun, a few punches, unreturned. And police, who were watching the whole march/protest, let them go. But as commented by a friend, at the time "I guess it is hard to get anti-violence protesters to fight."

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Hope you had fun  there. Likely that is all it  was good for.

I will give the Europeans a bit of credit. Aside from our blacks, they will actually try to do something, even sometimes violent, about whatever perceived injustice, soccer match result, or environmental concern they have during a given protest day. Granted they, especially with related to certain economies and immigration, have more real problems but it still in interesting to see the odd coalitions of protesters. I was at a huge one in London decade ago or so and it was a bizarre mix of ancient pensioners with signs some Red anti-nuke party, Islamic activists, Greenpeace types, Anti-Nuke people, Palestinian Supporters, Labour, IRA or Sein Fien types, students bitching about fees, and homosexual activists (and who knows whatever else. I saw a bunch of Cuban flags even ) Amazingly funny incident. 3 Australian (? as I recall) went out of a pub and attacked a couple of the marchers. They were drunk, of course, in town for a  match of some sort (cricket, rugby?) they mentioned it after but I forget. It was classic. No one in the crowd, and even the victims, couldn't/wouldn't defend themselves. 3 against potential thousands! And, according to the drunk Aussies, they really just wanted to cross the street but didn't like people not letting them and then someone with an offensive sign or some stuff. Classic. All in good fun, a few punches, unreturned. And police, who were watching the whole march/protest, let them go. But as commented by a friend, at the time "I guess it is hard to get anti-violence protesters to fight."

Sorry I deleted my post because you were talking about Occupy which triggered me into talking about what a stupid experience that was in my life but I don't have much knowledge of European politics, so I can't really comment with any sort of knowledge or experience.

I come from one of the most liberal (on the surface) cities in the states. I've been in probably a dozen protests in my life from the big one at WTO as a twelve year old to Occupy two or three years ago. I really don't understand the point of them. They accomplish not a goddamn thing.

Sidenote: The funniest one was when a gay buddy and me were at the very front of a 10,000 strong Gay Rights march right after Obama got elected. As such, my face wound up on all the national television and newspapers at the very front leading a huge Gay Rights march. My parents called me that night with some questions.

[SciFiAuthor]

Sorry I deleted my post because you were talking about Occupy which triggered me into talking about what a stupid experience that was in my life but I don't have much knowledge of European politics, so I can't really comment with any sort of knowledge or experience.

I come from one of the most liberal (on the surface) cities in the states. I've been in probably a dozen protests in my life from the big one at WTO as a twelve year old to Occupy two or three years ago. I really don't understand the point of them. They accomplish not a goddamn thing.

Sidenote: The funniest one was when a gay buddy and me were at the very front of a 10,000 strong Gay Rights march right after Obama got elected. As such, my face wound up on all the national television and newspapers at the very front leading a huge Gay Rights march. My parents called me that night with some questions.

The big problem with Occupy was that it never had any kind of coherent message. It was like "Corporations are dumb!" ... "Specifics please?" ... "Uh, corporations are dumb!". In that sense it never actually was a protest, just a bunch of people occupying space. There's no question that there are problems with the corporatist system, Zuckerberg and others are out there trying to fill the country with cheap labor and Obama's leading the push as we speak, but Occupy simply never figured out what those problems were. They just bitched about nothing while checking their Iphones and Facebook.

Gay rights protests appear to me to just be big parties. And Ferguson was just thugs rioting along with professional protestors making their living, basically a looting of society from two different types of idiot.

So yeah, protests can have a purpose, they have in the past, but not today. Today they're just stupidity.

[albrecht]

Sorry I deleted my post because you were talking about Occupy which triggered me into talking about what a stupid experience that was in my life but I don't have much knowledge of European politics, so I can't really comment with any sort of knowledge or experience.

I come from one of the most liberal (on the surface) cities in the states. I've been in probably a dozen protests in my life from the big one at WTO as a twelve year old to Occupy two or three years ago. I really don't understand the point of them. They accomplish not a goddamn thing.

Sidenote: The funniest one was when a gay buddy and me were at the very front of a 10,000 strong Gay Rights march right after Obama got elected. As such, my face wound up on all the national television and newspapers at the very front leading a huge Gay Rights march. My parents called me that night with some questions.

Well I still hope you had fun  . Who knows? It used to be we had parades for astronauts, veterans, 4th of July, local sports teams and even things like various fruits and vegetables or farm animals (depending on town or area.) I'm all for parades and fun, whatever. But our Occupy, Illegals, Criminals, etc protests don't last. And the race riots don't accomplish much, long term. I might be wrong. This latest nutso shooting might prove me wrong, but the Obama strategy-of-tension might fail in the longer term. It seemed evil Christians there responded amazingly well. The odd responses, focuses on a "flag" not on the victims or the nutjob, banning novelty items, etc? Who knows? Banning toys like the' 69  Dodge Charger  Duke of Hazzard General Lee might take down Obama's strategy of tension. But time will tell. Especially if more nuts buy into it.

[SciFiAuthor]

Well I still hope you had fun  . Who knows? It used to be we had parades for astronauts, veterans, 4th of July, local sports teams and even things like various fruits and vegetables or farm animals (depending on town or area.) I'm all for parades and fun, whatever. But our Occupy, Illegals, Criminals, etc protests don't last. And the race riots don't accomplish much, long term. I might be wrong. This latest nutso shooting might prove me wrong, but the Obama strategy-of-tension might fail in the longer term. It seemed evil Christians there responded amazingly well. The odd responses, focuses on a "flag" not on the victims or the nutjob, banning novelty items, etc? Who knows? Banning toys like the' 69  Dodge Charger  Duke of Hazzard General Lee might take down Obama's strategy of tension. But time will tell. Especially if more nuts buy into it.

This post actually made me sad. When was the last time we had a real ticker tape parade on Broadway in NY for something other than a sporting event? The last one I remember was when Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf returned in victory from the gulf. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhARosaTfSw

Imagine that happening now. I don't think it could.

[Quick Karl]

This post actually made me sad. When was the last time we had a real ticker tape parade on Broadway in NY for something other than a sporting event? The last one I remember was when Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf returned in victory from the gulf. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhARosaTfSw

Imagine that happening now. I don't think it could.

The next one will be for when The Constitution of The United States is buried.

[albrecht]

The next one will be for when The Constitution of The United States is buried.

What Constitution? Not worth the paper it is printed on- at least according to the Court or our leadership, if we judge them by their decisions and actions. It has been gone for sometime but we are finally reaping the whirlwind now.

[SredniVashtar]

The big problem with Occupy was that it never had any kind of coherent message. It was like "Corporations are dumb!" ... "Specifics please?" ... "Uh, corporations are dumb!". In that sense it never actually was a protest, just a bunch of people occupying space.

Yes, that particular protest was never destined to have any legs. It got headlines for a few weeks, then the weather got cold and people decided to postpone the overthrow of tyrannical capitalism for a while. I suppose you could be indulgent and say it was charmingly idealistic, but it smacked of kids playing with politics and never having any real skin in the game - going back to their fairly comfortable lives when it got a little too tough for them. We had a largish protest in London last week and I am sure it was the same thing as usual - people go out and wave a few banners around and make some noise, telling themselves when it is over that they stuck it to the man. Then they go home and are back where they started. It is all marshalled by the police and a tepid, tame little time is had by all. The very idea of 'free speech zones' is an Orwellian monstrosity.

If you are really going to try and change things then you need to be prepared to get your hands dirty, and have some ideas worth ruining your life for. Otherwise quit the play-acting.

[albrecht]

From Gary Hart (!) Remember him? He didn't star in the great tv show Hart-To-Hart by the way  )
I actually agree with much of what he said.

Though with the current politics (and policies,) Court decisions the past decade and recently,) leadership, foreign wars, immigration policies of open-borders, and impotency of Congress, and general aggrandizement of the national government I'm siding more and more with Mason, Patrick Henry, Adams, Clinton, Monroe and the other anti-Federalists. I think it is time for "devolution," if not to totally separate, sovereign nations (which won't be allowed and has been tried before and would get too violent.) At least some way to devolve power and so more representation, security, and comfort for the people and allow natural migration to resettle the country into more autonomous States, maybe like a common-wealth or something.  To avoid this very undemocratic, and even anti-republican, ideals of Courts simply deciding everything or the Executive Branch doing so by various measures. Secret treaties that can't be even spoken about. And so forth. (Why vote at all or even claim some type of representative government- much less a democracy at this point?) And in the rare event the Congress does act it is often only due to bought and paid for reasons.

http://time.com/3937860/gary-hart-america-corruption/

[Quick Karl]

From Gary Hart (!) Remember him? He didn't star in the great tv show Hart-To-Hart by the way:)
I actually agree with much of what he said, though, with the current politics, Court decisions the past decade and recently,) leadership, foreign wars, immigration policies of open-borders, and impotency of Congress, and general aggrandizement of the national government I'm siding more and more with Mason, Patrick Henry, Adams, Clinton, Monroe and the other anti-Federalists. I think it is time for "devolution," if not to totally separate, sovereign nations (which won't be allowed and has been tried before) than at least some way to devolve and allow natural migration to resettle the country into more autonomous States, maybe like a common-wealth or something.  To avoid the very undemocratic, and even anti-republican, ideals of Courts simply deciding everything or the Executive Branch doing so by various measures (why vote at all or even claim some type of representative government- much less a democracy at this point?) And in the rare event the Congress does act it is often only due to bought and paid for reasons.

http://time.com/3937860/gary-hart-america-corruption/

Watch it buddy -- when I called for this same remedy I was attacked, hysterically - the spit was flying everywhere!

[albrecht]

Watch it buddy -- when I called for this same remedy I was attacked, hysterically - the spit was flying everywhere!

Hahaha. I'm not worried. I forget your ideas, or at least won't presume to know them. But I'm not advocating any type of violent revolution (hear that Obama/NSA?), not that you did either. That is really the dream of Obama and others of his ilk. Divide and conquer, a revolution, or better yet some kind of race-war or class-war would be welcomed with open arms as it would further allow Federal, or even International, agencies more power. I'm saying simply a peaceful devolution of power back to the States, and the people, which after all would be more "democratic" and "progressive" and allow freedom of movement (we have, basically, already self-segregated ourselves to a large degree except for the open-border and economic problems in most left-leaning states) to move to places in which you feel comfortable. Live and let live. Don't mess with other people. Our country is huge, compared to many. No reason it couldn't be several, or at least, have more autonomous regions or more local powers especially since, it appears, we are now ruled by a very, very few, who have created (or at least expanded) their own jurisdiction and power, and voting doesn't matter because even the supposed "representatives" are often just bought and paid-for.

[Quick Karl]

Hahaha. I'm not worried. I forget your ideas, or at least won't presume to know them. But I'm not advocating any type of violent revolution (hear that Obama/NSA?), not that you did either. That is really the dream of Obama and others of his ilk. Divide and conquer, a revolution, or better yet some kind of race-war or class-war would be welcomed with open arms as it would further allow Federal, or even International, agencies more power. I'm saying simply a peaceful devolution of power back to the States, and the people, which after all would be more "democratic" and "progressive" and allow freedom of movement (we have, basically, already self-segregated ourselves to a large degree except for the open-border and economic problems in most left-leaning states) to move to places in which you feel comfortable. Live and let live. Don't mess with other people. Our country is huge, compared to many. No reason it couldn't be several, or at least, have more autonomous regions or more local powers especially since, it appears, we are now ruled by a very, very few, who have created (or at least expanded) their own jurisdiction and power, and voting doesn't matter because even the supposed "representatives" are often just bought and paid-for.

The problem with your thesis, as I see it, is that the liberal despots will never be content to leave you alone in your new autonomy...

Sooner or later you will have no choice but to fight or die - no different than what happened to the Native Americans.

[albrecht]

The problem with your thesis, as I see it, is that the liberal despots will never be content to leave you alone in your new autonomy...

Sooner or later you will have no choice but to fight or die - no different than what happened to the Native Americans.

Likely, and sadly, true. At that point I have no problem. But I certainly won't advocate pro-active measures in that regard. Especially on the internet where whatever crazy can see it. (Hear that Obama, NSA, DIA, etc?) I'm not advocating violence, unlike you, but a peaceful, "progressive" resolution.

It could be, trying to see a half-glass full, that so-called "liberals" might wake-up, especially once they see how the various secretive treaties being negotiated deal with their lifestyles and as the precious illegals, and others especially Muslim- but also the cartel and gangmember immigrants- start in on them with their rapes, misogynists ideals, beheadings, anti-homosexuality, and general mayhem.

Doubtful, though, as recent history has proven it will result is simply more hand-wringing and pleas for inclusivity and navel-gazing about how bad the US, and Western Civilization (if there is any left) is.

Or, more likely, we fracture (as Obama hoped with his Balkanization strategy along race, class, region, and citizenship status lines) even further BUT, trying to be half-glass full,  instead of a divide and conquer working, some regions, and enough loyal military and police and citizenry, has enough where-withal to refuse, switch sides, and recreate what once was. Ideally with seizure of assets that prohibit re-invasion by enemies; foreign and domestic.

[Quick Karl]

Likely, and sadly, true. At that point I have no problem. But I certainly won't advocate pro-active measures in that regard. Especially on the internet where whatever crazy can see it. (Hear that Obama, NSA, DIA, etc?) I'm not advocating violence, unlike you, but a peaceful, "progressive" resolution.

It could be, trying to see a half-glass full, that so-called "liberals" might wake-up, especially once they see how the various secretive treaties being negotiated deal with their lifestyles and as the precious illegals, and others especially Muslim- but also the cartel and gangmember immigrants- start in on them with their rapes, misogynists ideals, beheadings, anti-homosexuality, and general mayhem.

Doubtful, though, as recent history has proven it will result is simply more hand-wringing and pleas for inclusivity and navel-gazing about how bad the US, and Western Civilization (if there is any left) is.

Or, more likely, we fracture (as Obama hoped with his Balkanization strategy along race, class, region, and citizenship status lines) even further BUT, trying to be half-glass full,  instead of a divide and conquer working, some regions, and enough loyal military and police and citizenry, has enough where-withal to refuse, switch sides, and recreate what once was. Ideally with seizure of assets that prohibit re-invasion by enemies; foreign and domestic.

I do not advocate violence but only acknowledge that, as history has proven over and again, it is the only tool that will stop an enemy.

[SciFiAuthor]

The next one will be for when The Constitution of The United States is buried.

Maybe one for gay marriage when it becomes universal. Which will, of course, be an abomination regardless of one's position on the matter.

[SciFiAuthor]

Yes, that particular protest was never destined to have any legs. It got headlines for a few weeks, then the weather got cold and people decided to postpone the overthrow of tyrannical capitalism for a while. I suppose you could be indulgent and say it was charmingly idealistic, but it smacked of kids playing with politics and never having any real skin in the game - going back to their fairly comfortable lives when it got a little too tough for them. We had a largish protest in London last week and I am sure it was the same thing as usual - people go out and wave a few banners around and make some noise, telling themselves when it is over that they stuck it to the man. Then they go home and are back where they started. It is all marshalled by the police and a tepid, tame little time is had by all. The very idea of 'free speech zones' is an Orwellian monstrosity.

If you are really going to try and change things then you need to be prepared to get your hands dirty, and have some ideas worth ruining your life for. Otherwise quit the play-acting.

I agree entirely. Only protest when you've got something coherent to say and solid ideas to present to the public. Otherwise, it's just stupidity. A place where college students can smoke dope and pretend to be vegans. They think they're supposed to protest, so they do, but don't really know why on a level that has any depth.

[Quick Karl]

... it's just stupidity. A place where college students can smoke dope and pretend to be vegans. They think they're supposed to protest, so they do, but don't really know why on a level that has any depth.

You've just described the political and intellectual philosophy of every leftist on the Planet.

[paladin1991]

I do not advocate violence but only acknowledge that, as history has proven over and again, it is the only tool that will stop an enemy.

What's that old saying about effecting change?  There is the soap box, the ballot box and the cartridge box.

[Yorkshire pud]

You've just described the political and intellectual philosophy of every leftist on the Planet.

You think the Taliban are left wing so your political credentials aren't anything to go by.

[Lunger]

You think the Taliban are left wing so your political credentials aren't anything to go by.

If you want to understand a group's politics look at those who suppose them.

[Yorkshire pud]

If you want to understand a group's politics look at those who suppose them.

I'm game: who supports (I'm guessing that's what you meant)  the Taliban? Bear in mind they're the evolution of the Mujahideen; an anti Soviet, CIA backed and trained guerrilla unit. In the Reagan years.