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Eddie Coyle

Quote from: albrecht on August 22, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
Haha! By the way I think Sasha Baron Cohen (the guy behind Ali G, Borat, etc) is Julius Evola. Just look at the most used photo of Evola, his passport photo (shows up on his wiki or google usually first) and compare to this Jewish comic Cohen, very ironic.

  Funny enough, in that multitudinous barrage of Nixon tapes/transcripts, Nixon was wondering aloud in 1970 to Haldeman about whether young Panetta was a member of the tribe. Particularly how he looked like one of "Henry's crowd". It's worth noting that Panetta was out of Nixon's administration within months.

    A biopic of Evola starring Cohen will be greenlighted soon. Bellgab is Harvey Weinstein's philosopher's stone. I'm sure of it.

Up All Night

What do some of you want instead of Trump??? A Bush, to "orderly manage" the delcine of America, so that the Fat Cats can maximize their accounts as the "ship" "gracefully" "sinks" into the abyss.... ????

I don't think so. Look at what we're getting from Boehner and McConnell!! Bad compromises all the way around !!!

The country needs to be jolted and radically put right, by none other than Donald J. Trump.

That Senator from Texas could also do it.




CornyCrow

Quote from: Up All Night on August 24, 2015, 03:21:25 AM
What do some of you want instead of Trump??? A Bush, to "orderly manage" the delcine of America, so that the Fat Cats can maximize their accounts as the "ship" "gracefully" "sinks" into the abyss.... ????

I don't think so. Look at what we're getting from Boehner and McConnell!! Bad compromises all the way around !!!

The country needs to be jolted and radically put right, by none other than Donald J. Trump.

That Senator from Texas could also do it.
How is Trump going to get Mexico to pay for the wall?  How will they pay for their citizens that we capture here?  Threaten to bomb them?  How is he going to address the environmental/weather problems that we have?  I like that he is liberal on women's issues, but if you are conservative, I'm sure you don't.

Does it trouble you that he seems to have been liberal all his life until just now, when there is a weak party that he perceives he can take over?  Does that make you think that perhaps he's in it for 'the deal' - the money?   

albrecht

Quote from: CornyCrow on August 24, 2015, 03:12:30 PM
How is Trump going to get Mexico to pay for the wall?  How will they pay for their citizens that we capture here?  Threaten to bomb them?  How is he going to address the environmental/weather problems that we have?  I like that he is liberal on women's issues, but if you are conservative, I'm sure you don't.

Does it trouble you that he seems to have been liberal all his life until just now, when there is a weak party that he perceives he can take over?  Does that make you think that perhaps he's in it for 'the deal' - the money?
Yeah, at first I thought maybe he was a stalking horse for Billary but now I'm not so sure. He definitely is too liberal for me on many issues like immigration. But I like the way he is shaking up the ingrained two-party system, embarrassing politicians (I buy you guys,) and making debates a little bit more fun. But I'm guessing Trump is in it for Trump but at least you know that, instead of pretenders who claim to care about the people and "little guy."

Re: making Mexico pay. I think it would be better argued that we would pay for it from the money saved from the cost of immigration. Though I would also take away foreign aide, humanitarian aide, and military aide from the countries who send the migrants. That alone could pay for the wall. (And we wouldn't need a wall across the whole of the border we could use other technology and, ideally corrupt countries, like Mexico, would get their house in order and people wouldn't flee.) Particularly if there were more severe criminal, and civil, penalties for any business, organization, or person aiding, abetting, or hiring illegals. Many would self-deport if they couldn't find sanctuary or jobs. And the country of origin of the countless illegals we have in our prison system at the State and Federal level (for DUIs, rapes, murders, running drugs, etc) should be billed for their imprisonment- again by withholding aide, a levy against any capital transfer from the US to that country, or even freezing a portion of the money they have in US banks and US Reserve banks.

CornyCrow

ALBRECHT FOR PRESIDENT!

albrecht

Quote from: CornyCrow on August 24, 2015, 03:26:05 PM
ALBRECHT FOR PRESIDENT!
:) No thanks. Vote "None of the Above" if you support me, as in the re/re/re/remake of the novel, and then movies, Brewster's Millions, done again a few decades ago, hilariously and brilliantly, due to Pryor and the direction of the great Walter Hill (of The Warriors etc.)

Though I could save this country but might take more than even the current "Unitary Executive" theory due to the threat, as Jefferson and others much maligned, of the expanded/self-created jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. And then having to deal with Congress! Who by polls everyone hates but still elect because "their guy is ok?" Then to deal with their owners? No, count me out. Shut her down and start over I'd say, or at least devolve power or shake it up and have some fun. "I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected," as someone once said (4th Grade question, quick, quick, famous Union General....adopted by others in various forms over the years....bonus points...quick quick answer....hands?)

3OctaveFart

Orange suits her well.



CornyCrow

Debbie is a racist.  She really lost me when she said Jews should only marry other Jews.  That disgusts me.   

Marc.Knight

Quote from: Up All Night on September 10, 2015, 08:13:13 AM


These are the numb-nuts who are "running" this country. 

Quote from: Marc.Knight on September 10, 2015, 08:49:11 AM
These are the numb-nuts who are "running" this country.


She, of the angry perm.


For the record, lots of liberals regard DWS (see above) with disdain.  Riffing about her hair is fair, I guess, since everyone makes fun of Trumpy's hair-like matting and Walker's Sea of Serenity (Stupidity) baldspot.

So Perry finally pulled the plug... 'bout time.  Who is next?  I think Santorum and Graham should stop their greedy grift or self-delusion--whatever is powering them.  Christie, Jindall, Pataki should bail, too.

On the left, O'Malley ought to disappear soon.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: CornyCrow on September 10, 2015, 08:45:09 AM
Debbie is a racist.  She really lost me when she said Jews should only marry other Jews.  That disgusts me.

Hmmm, sadly Jews enforce that they only marry other Jews. Is that racist? I personally know of two relationships that were brought to an abrupt halt by the Jewish side of the relationship. Brutally so in one case; "Marry him and you'll be disowned" is the exact reaction. Both were heartbroken. Still, it's only two young people's happiness.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: West of the Rockies on September 12, 2015, 08:25:24 AM
For the record, lots of liberals regard DWS (see above) with disdain.  Riffing about her hair is fair, I guess, since everyone makes fun of Trumpy's hair-like matting and Walker's Sea of Serenity (Stupidity) baldspot.

So Perry finally pulled the plug... 'bout time.  Who is next?  I think Santorum and Graham should stop their greedy grift or self-delusion--whatever is powering them.  Christie, Jindall, Pataki should bail, too.

On the left, O'Malley ought to disappear soon.

Spot on.  I am no great fan of DWS, especially the heavy handed Clintonista crap she's pulling about "debate exclusivity".  Her mission is to get Hitlery elected, the party and the people be damned.

You watch the luke warm, half assed, half hearted "support" she give Sanders/Warren when they win the primaries.  In fact, I bet you see her open up all sorts of half baked "prerogative of the chair" rules to allow the Clintonistas to try to steal the nomination at the convention.  Pigs.

O'Malley should stop running for vice-president already.  No one's bringing him on their ticket.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 13, 2015, 10:11:24 AM
Hmmm, sadly Jews enforce that they only marry other Jews. Is that racist? I personally know of two relationships that were brought to an abrupt halt by the Jewish side of the relationship. Brutally so in one case; "Marry him and you'll be disowned" is the exact reaction. Both were heartbroken. Still, it's only two young people's happiness.

Too bad the woman wasn't smart enough to say "Have it your way. See yas peeps!" to her family. A good parent would never disown his/her own child and if they do, should expect the fallout afterwards.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 13, 2015, 10:11:24 AM
Hmmm, sadly Jews enforce that they only marry other Jews. Is that racist? I personally know of two relationships that were brought to an abrupt halt by the Jewish side of the relationship. Brutally so in one case; "Marry him and you'll be disowned" is the exact reaction. Both were heartbroken. Still, it's only two young people's happiness.
Jews have an odd situation in which they can claim "it a religion" during some circumstances or debates, "it is a race or ethnic group" in other cases, an "it is both," and, lastly, it is a "nation citizen status." Arguably anti-Semitic should refer to all Semitic people, not all of whom are Jewish but that term, now, is used exclusively to apply to Jews. Although not all Jews are even Semitic! So the claim that "Jew is a race" is bogus but still claimed by some. I know some who claim only if your mother was Jewish (and so-on down the years) can one really be Jewish (but maybe Jewish as in the racial component?) But I think only the more Orthodox claim this. Who knows? Most people, generally, tend to marry within their "tribe," no pun intended, or at least their parents hope they do. But this is changing in a more diverse world (and for other reasons) but certainly some cultures have reason, at least perceived, beyond "natural attraction" to marry within that culture to maintain it.

CornyCrow

Quote from: albrecht on September 13, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
Jews have an odd situation in which they can claim "it a religion" during some circumstances or debates, "it is a race or ethnic group" in other cases, an "it is both," and, lastly, it is a "nation citizen status." Arguably anti-Semitic should refer to all Semitic people, not all of whom are Jewish but that term, now, is used exclusively to apply to Jews. Although not all Jews are even Semitic! So the claim that "Jew is a race" is bogus but still claimed by some. I know some who claim only if your mother was Jewish (and so-on down the years) can one really be Jewish (but maybe Jewish as in the racial component?) But I think only the more Orthodox claim this. Who knows? Most people, generally, tend to marry within their "tribe," no pun intended, or at least their parents hope they do. But this is changing in a more diverse world (and for other reasons) but certainly some cultures have reason, at least perceived, beyond "natural attraction" to marry within that culture to maintain it.
Also brought to mind are the Ethiopians who are Jewish, tried to migrate to Israel and were shunned horribly until DNA tests were made and their ancestry proven to be more authentic than many who claimed to be Jewish - this is a racial thing, not a religious one. 


albrecht

Kasich, speaking in a country club, makes comments about latinos and the "jobs they are willing to do." Classic.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/kasich-remark-latina-maid-draws-unwanted-attention-33869440

b_dubb

Quote from: albrecht on September 18, 2015, 03:43:05 PM
Kasich, speaking in a country club, makes comments about latinos and the "jobs they are willing to do." Classic.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/kasich-remark-latina-maid-draws-unwanted-attention-33869440
Yeah that's horrible how he had something nice to say about someone

Per a CNN poll, Walker is a statistical zero (along with Jindall, Graham, Pataki, Gilmore).  They are toast.  Santorum and a few others are at 1-3%.  They will fade soon.  Who will get their supporters?  This is the strangest primary ever.

albrecht

Quote from: b_dubb on September 20, 2015, 09:17:55 AM
Yeah that's horrible how he had something nice to say about someone
I think the reason the Hispanics and leftists are mad about it is because of the maid for his anecdote at the country club. Actually if I were Hispanic I would be critical of how everyone, especially Democrats and apologists for illegals, think the only jobs Hispanics have are maids and manual laborers. There are, believe it or not, lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers, etc who are Hispanic (though those, usually, are not illegals.)

b_dubb

Quote from: West of the Rockies on September 20, 2015, 11:04:55 AM
Per a CNN poll, Walker is a statistical zero (along with Jindall, Graham, Pataki, Gilmore).  They are toast.  Santorum and a few others are at 1-3%.  They will fade soon.  Who will get their supporters?  This is the strangest primary ever.
I think Kasich has a chance only because he seems like the only candidate that has a shred of humanity. Fiorini just looks like she's waiting to bite someone's head off. Kasich's record in Ohio is defensible too. Things have turned around.

albrecht

Quote from: West of the Rockies on September 20, 2015, 11:04:55 AM
Per a CNN poll, Walker is a statistical zero (along with Jindall, Graham, Pataki, Gilmore).  They are toast.  Santorum and a few others are at 1-3%.  They will fade soon.  Who will get their supporters?  This is the strangest primary ever.
Is it a strange one. One won't even have debates and have, apparently, picked the nominee and other has so many but has turned into some reality tv show.
But I don't trust polls, for the most part. If not outright faked by their methods or criteria at least manipulated before hand by same. Many are still relying on out-dated technology and even people that have landlines usually screen callers. So those that choose to participate, likely, are already committed or motivated by some issue/candidate. But others, undecideds, those without landlines, those working and not home during the day, those who screen/block unknown numbers, etc?

b_dubb

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2015, 03:59:03 PM
I think the reason the Hispanics and leftists are mad about it is because of the maid for his anecdote at the country club. Actually if I were Hispanic I would be critical of how everyone, especially Democrats and apologists for illegals, think the only jobs Hispanics have are maids and manual laborers. There are, believe it or not, lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers, etc who are Hispanic (though those, usually, are not illegals.)

The leader of that Hispanic political group said he didn't think it was offensive. I don't see a story here except that some people are quick to bitch.

I agree, Albrecht, that polls can be skewed/poorly designed, but a statistical zero can't be ignored.  Walker's personality is a statistical zero.  Even if you bundled all those polling at 0-2%, you won't see too much shifting at the top.  It will be when those polling at 3-8% begin to drop out that a true Repub frontrunner will emerge.  That person may still be Trumpy.

Interesting times!

QuoteGOP candidate Carson: Muslim shouldn't be elected president

WASHINGTON (AP) â€" Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson says Islam is antithetical to the Constitution, and he doesn't believe that a Muslim should be elected president.

Carson, a devout Christian, says a president's faith should matter to voters if it runs counter to the values and principles of America.

Responding to a question during an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," he described the Islamic faith as inconsistent with the Constitution.

"I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation," Carson said. "I absolutely would not agree with that."

He did not specify in what way Islam ran counter to constitutional principles.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-candidate-carson-muslim-shouldnt-be-elected-president/ar-AAex7i2?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=iehp

These are things you keep to yourself Ben. Whether you're right or not, you don't piss on a large demographic of American voters and show obvious prejudice. Especially when the Muslim kid with the clock is all the rage right now.  ::)'

Do these Republicans not watch TV? Are they just pathologically stupid? I don't get it.

albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on September 20, 2015, 08:28:36 PM
These are things you keep to yourself Ben. Whether you're right or not, you don't piss on a large demographic of American voters and show obvious prejudice. Especially when the Muslim kid with the clock is all the rage right now.  ::)'

Do these Republicans not watch TV? Are they just pathologically stupid? I don't get it.
Yes, and yes, though the percentage of Muslim in America is pretty small we can see from current politics or popular culture this means nothing (homosexuals and other various BLT sub-groups are, according to the CDC survey- under Obama so can't blame others- <3% of the general population.) Muslims, ignoring the recent immigrants and illegals coming, <3million according to Pew-Templton surveys. Though admittedly both sources are questionable to a point. But Muslims are not a huge percentage of population; neither are LBTs etc. This doesn't mean they, or their champions, have influence however.

But, yes, to your other questions though most successful surgeons (and other) people I know don't watch much tv. And the "clock" was not what most, at least initially, think a "clock" is and why having it beep in class. Sorry, but if I was an English teacher and some Muslim kid with that name is acting suspiciously and has a device of wires and circuitry hidden in a backpack that starts beeping...I would ask some questions, at least!

Quote from: albrecht on September 20, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Yes, and yes, though the percentage of Muslim in America is pretty small we can see from current politics or popular culture this means nothing (homosexuals and other various BLT sub-groups are, according to the CDC survey- under Obama so can't blame others- <3% of the general population.) Muslims, ignoring the recent immigrants and illegals coming, <3million according to Pew-Templton surveys. Though admittedly both sources are questionable to a point. But Muslims are not a huge percentage of population; neither are LBTs etc. This doesn't mean they, or their champions, have influence however.

But, yes, to your other questions though most successful surgeons (and other) people I know don't watch much tv. And the "clock" was not what most, at least initially, think a "clock" is and why having it beep in class. Sorry, but if I was an English teacher and some Muslim kid with that name is acting suspiciously and has a device of wires and circuitry hidden in a backpack that starts beeping...I would ask some questions, at least!

I think the Muslim kid got treated harshly. The clock he brought to school did look ridiculous, but taking him to jail in handcuffs was a serious WTF for anyone I would think. But the liberal circle jerk was so disproportionate that it was sickening. White kids get suspended over stupid shit constantly yet these hypocrites don't have a righteous indignation orgasm over those incidents.

And yes, even though Muslims are a small percentage of the American population, you have to factor all the guilty white liberals who feel it's their job to babysit minorities. Plus this guy couldn't have said this at a worse possible time. Also, I think it's wrong to be prejudicial or generalize a group of people like that but mainly I'm just horrified because it shows Ben Carson is either very stupid or very unworldly.

I AM an English instructor (jc) and was in LE for 13 years.  I'd be suspicious REGARDLESS of the student's race/religion.  However, having ascertained the device was not a bomb, why was the kid suspended?  He sounds very bright.  I hope that intelligence is nurtured.

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