Random Political Thoughts

[onan]

because he did not win it. and i never said he did, only he was a candidate for the prize.

But you did imply that there is something intrinsically wrong with the award. I am inferring that from the list of nominations that were presented. If you can go overboard, grant me the same latitude.

[West of the Rockies]

Obama enjoys cookies... Ya know who ELSE enjoyed cookies?  Hitler!

So, uh, there!

[b_dubb]

Obama enjoys cookies... Ya know who ELSE enjoyed cookies?  Hitler!

So, uh, there!

Faux News reports

[PB the Deplorable]

Yet another accomplishment of his you can never match...

Why did they stop with a Nobel, he clearly should have been awarded a Grammy, an Oscar, and a Super Bowl MVP award by now.

[VtaGeezer]

because he did not win it. and i never said he did, only he was a candidate for the prize.

Weak cover for a very cheap and undeserved shot at a decent man. 

[SciFiAuthor]

The Nobel Peace Prize went down hill quite a while ago. I think it was when they gave it to Kofi Annan and the UN that it started getting regularly questionable. Then Carter. El Baradei. Then they really went nuts and gave the IPCC one. Then Obama. And last year they gave it to the freaking European Union. Next they'll just award the damned thing to themselves for their work in giving out the award.

[paladin1991]

Yet another accomplishment of his you can never match.  Damn Kenyan Socialist.

Isn't it time for the CPAC Wrap Around Awards, too?

Wrap Arounds or Reach Arounds?

[wr250]

Weak cover for a very cheap and undeserved shot at a decent man.

who are you talking about ? hitler stalin and mussolini were not decent men.
0bama came out of nowhere, servers what maybe 18 months in legislature, did nothing there, and was elected president. took office on jan 20 2009 and 9 months later was awarded a nobel prize. its very hard to believe he is in the same league as Martin Luther King,Nelson Mandela,Mother Teresa, or even carter (carter at least tried to effect change though humanitarian efforts and mediation of violent disputes  after he left the presidency). those people are people who should be acknowledged for their extra-ordinary efforts over decades to benefit mankind. 0bama has done nothing of the sort; not even once.

[VtaGeezer]

...its very hard to believe he is in the same league as Martin Luther King,Nelson Mandela,Mother Teresa, or even carter (carter at least tried to effect change though humanitarian efforts and mediation of violent disputes  after he left the presidency). those people are people who should be acknowledged for their extra-ordinary efforts over decades to benefit mankind. 0bama has done nothing of the sort; not even once.

Actually, Obama's greatest achievement was saving the country from "War of the Month" McCain and his utterly brainless sidekick.

[Unquenchable Angst]

http://takimag.com/article/racism_the_eighth_deadly_sin_jim_goad?utm_source=Taki's+Magazine+List&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign

Something to think about....

[VtaGeezer]

http://takimag.com/article/racism_the_eighth_deadly_sin_jim_goad?utm_source=Taki's+Magazine+List&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign

Something to think about....

I got as far as "shady characters such as Nelson Mandela, MLK, and Abraham Lincoln".

[West of the Rockies]

Me, too, VtaG... Cliven Bundy gets a pass, but that Lincoln, now there's a shady fellow!

[PB the Deplorable]

Then you missed the reference to the 'sacred tenets of the Iron Rainbow'.

Loved that, perfect description.

[onan]

This is the most convoluted irrational piece of shit yet... kudos.

Purported racists... fuck you... and please by all means go straight to hell.

So lemme get this straight... racist thoughts are unprovable therefore have no meaning or importance.

And it is all liberal group think.

[albrecht]

I got as far as "shady characters such as Nelson Mandela, MLK, and Abraham Lincoln".

Dear Nelson, of course, needs no real references as to his activities in the MK and the subsequent corruption and crimes of his wife Winnie and ANC government. As for Lincoln, his infamous quotes, are less known but similarly it is interesting that he is such a hero for civil rights considering his suspension of Habeus Corpus and views on blacks. Just look at a few choice quotes from the famous Douglas debates (they used to be taught in school as some of the most famous political debates in US history though, I'm guess, not mentioned much considering Lincoln's quotes like "I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people." And that was one of the more benign ones. Or the ones even after the War. Of course, it could be argued (and probably likely) that in term of "the day" his views were better or "more enlightened" that most but even after the so-called Civil War, as if war could ever be civil in one sense of the word, that he was no real friend of "the negro" (to use his, Bundy's, or the United Negro College Fund sense of the word) but used them as a tactic in keeping the USA intact and why he didn't free slaves in border states or northern states in his famous proclamation at Gettysburg. And why post-Civil War such civil rights for blacks were so quickly abandoned once victory was complete. Though it would be interesting to see if Lincoln's, and others like W.E.B DuBois etc, dream of resettlement/repatriation of African-Americans was fulfilled in both economic benefits for the country and Africa. Obviously Liberia failed but, at least initially, was working. Maybe if Lincoln's dreams were fulfilled so long ago the history of Africa, and America, would be different?

[Jackstar]

Deus Ex1 - NSF Leader Interrogation: http://youtu.be/tyhNgDNYuZY
tl;dr

[Yorkshire pud]

I know he's only a professor, but maybe he has a point. Who knows?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27296417

[albrecht]

I know he's only a professor, but maybe he has a point. Who knows?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27296417

We have received the meme dear leader. It is not "global warming". Nor is it "climate change." It is now "climate disruption". Message received not won't SOMEONE please raise our taxes and tighten our regulations over every aspect of our lives to save us from this awful warming...sorry. From this awful "disruption"! UN- where are you!!? Obama, please! IMF can't you come up with some special SDR tax on us!?

[Yorkshire pud]

We have received the meme dear leader. It is not "global warming". Nor is it "climate change." It is now "climate disruption". Message received not won't SOMEONE please raise our taxes and tighten our regulations over every aspect of our lives to save us from this awful warming...sorry. From this awful "disruption"! UN- where are you!!? Obama, please! IMF can't you come up with some special SRD tax on us!?

Well you and me will need something, because if things carry on, we'll be well fucked and our kids will be really really pissed. But as I said, he's only a professor and hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

[albrecht]

Well you and me will need something, because if things carry on, we'll be well fucked and our kids will be really really pissed. But as I said, he's only a professor and hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

Nah, every generation blames their parents for something. Look at the destruction caused by WWI, WWII and look at those countries now (ok, let's ignore the Ukraine for the moment.) They will be more pissed off at us for REAL environmental problems that we can influence and control. Stuff like dumping heavy metals, nuclear waste leakages (and meltdowns), deforestation, over-fishing, etc. Or for political problems (starting more wars, eliminating jobs, giving up all civil rights, etc.) Not for some "warming" that, even if true (although it was much hotter on earth before in years past), even the "professors" admit one volcanic eruption caused more carbon leakage into the atmosphere than all our pick-up trucks combined.

[VtaGeezer]

We have received the meme dear leader. It is not "global warming". Nor is it "climate change." It is now "climate disruption". Message received not won't SOMEONE please raise our taxes and tighten our regulations over every aspect of our lives to save us from this awful warming...sorry. From this awful "disruption"! UN- where are you!!? Obama, please! IMF can't you come up with some special SDR tax on us!?

The deniers remind me of Reagan saying that trees cause most of the air pollution.

[albrecht]

The deniers remind me of Reagan saying that trees cause most of the air pollution.

According the EPA recently the trees are. Or more properly the burning of them. And they now are starting to go after fireplaces, wood burning stoves, and the like. Some places in California and other places have done this for a while now. Of course, the same people also said we couldn't have controlled burns, or logging in some areas, that, especially when coupled with drought, caused us so many forest fires over the recent years!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2014/01/29/epas-wood-burning-stove-ban-has-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/

[PB the Deplorable]

The deniers remind me of Reagan saying that trees cause most of the air pollution.

But the people now insisting Water Vapor is a Greenhouse Gas are not to be questioned. 


Are we really not to be skeptical when every few years the crisis moves from Global Cooling to Global Warming to Climate Change, and now on to Climate Disruption - because what the planet has been doing has not been agreeing with their phony projections?  You know, what they told us was 'settled science'.

Hello, it's all bullcrap.  Shouldn't it give us pause when we learn it's all doled been out by the same people hell bent on controlling everything and everybody?  All the new powers - and new taxes - they can implement on behalf of Big Government when they finally either convince us or just plain decree their new schemes. 

These are the (non) intellectual descendants of those who have been trying to reverse our self governing free republic since the day the Redcoats left.  This is just one (scare) tactic of many.  These are the people who think our Constitution is an outdated relic that is in their way on the road to Utopia, the people we had to overcome during the enlightenment, the folks who favor mob rule over democracy, who do their level best to silence their opposition. 

They have the audacity to call themselves 'Liberal' and 'Progressive' when they are the exact opposite.

[NowhereInTime]

But the people now insisting Water Vapor is a Greenhouse Gas are not to be questioned. 


Are we really not to be skeptical when every few years the crisis moves from Global Cooling to Global Warming to Climate Change, and now on to Climate Disruption - because what the planet has been doing has not been agreeing with their phony projections?  You know, what they told us was 'settled science'.

Hello, it's all bullcrap.  Shouldn't it give us pause when we learn it's all doled been out by the same people hell bent on controlling everything and everybody?  All the new powers - and new taxes - they can implement on behalf of Big Government when they finally either convince us or just plain decree their new schemes. 

These are the (non) intellectual descendants of those who have been trying to reverse our self governing free republic since the day the Redcoats left.  This is just one (scare) tactic of many.  These are the people who think our Constitution is an outdated relic that is in their way on the road to Utopia, the people we had to overcome during the enlightenment, the folks who favor mob rule over democracy, who do their level best to silence their opposition. 

They have the audacity to call themselves 'Liberal' and 'Progressive' when they are the exact opposite.

All of those new amazing powers!  Like the power to, um, require cleaner air?  And that stunning power to, oh, only put some PCB's into the water...
I want to thank you for ferreting out the evildoer lefties who are using these heretofore unseen and unbridled powers to... do stuff...
Oh, and thank you for uncovering their massive scientific research grant scheme!  Well done! Woodward and Bernstein be damned!  How dare they terrorize a world of evenhanded and fair minded commerce merely to line their pockets with those tens of thousands in meaty research grants-to-nowhere?!?

I wonder how fresh the air is in that bubble you live in.

Oh, and for the record, the Constitution isn't an outdated relic, just you.

[albrecht]

All of those new amazing powers!  Like the power to, um, require cleaner air?  And that stunning power to, oh, only put some PCB's into the water...
I want to thank you for ferreting out the evildoer lefties who are using these heretofore unseen and unbridled powers to... do stuff...
Oh, and thank you for uncovering their massive scientific research grant scheme!  Well done! Woodward and Bernstein be damned!  How dare they terrorize a world of evenhanded and fair minded commerce merely to line their pockets with those tens of thousands in meaty research grants-to-nowhere?!?

I wonder how fresh the air is in that bubble you live in.

Oh, and for the record, the Constitution isn't an outdated relic, just you.

The Constitution is an outdated relic written by landed, middle-age and old white men. Why should the people of the USA be allowed to have freedom when so many people in the world do not? Why should the US just "decide" based on a non-inclusive, racist document many decades old that they should be able to own property, determine their own lives, have freedom of speech that offends so many around the world, raise their own children (it takes a village), or worse own guns or individual transportation? Why should such archaic entities like states or counties presume to want to have control over their local affairs? Why should the vote matter so much when the vote often goes against the will of the majority of the world opinion or the interests of Mother Gaia? The UN should take over and force the selfish Americans to get with the global program.

[West of the Rockies]

Satire is a challenging business best left to professionals.

[Quick Karl]

http://clashdaily.com/2014/04/boom-truth-blm-bundy-ranch-dispute-explained/

I hope one day before too late that the people will realize that  the left-right paradigm is  a divide and conquer tactic used by the oligarchs to keep people from really seeing what is going on before we slip farther into the  neo feudal slavery state  and the culling of the useless eaters commences. The name calling of each other does not advance your futile causes. It throws a wedge  and malignant insult and only proves your slavery to division and your inability to dialog and find common unity. Liberals and Neo-cons are pretty damn similar, They both have been stripping the wealth from this nation in order to gain control of the world and to reduce us all to slavery to our governments.
For you liberals take note Neo-cons are not conservatives. Neo-cons  are Nazi's and Progressives are following the game plan of Lenin. They are all nasty  and use people and discard the useful idiots  that praise them marching to their lies while totally believing they are the righteous inheritors of a great new world. Please quit being deluded by these manipulators. We have not had a president since Kennedy that was not under their control and the control does not matter whether Democrat or Republican. It is all CFR oligarchy and levels above that. That you may be too small minded to understand that it is not a conspiracy theory but an actual conspiracy that has spanned the ages and is now about to invent events that may destroy the planet. You are stuck in the politic-event distraction- hero worship of the false idols of diversion created to keep you from seeing beyond the 'curtain' of delusion they create to keep you blind . Yet they keep sticking your nose in their shit to see if you notice any reality from time to time. People come and go, shine a light on the reality and yet you discuss on this forum how crazy they are and yet you can't even discriminate that there is some truth in those 'negative conspiracy 'theories'.
It  really takes a sick malignant asshole son of a bitch to start calling  another 'cutesy' little mean spirited names. Shows you have lost the argument  and you shoot them a '00' racist or a  'slug' of tea-bagger or some other epithet of small minded meanness and lack of upbringing or rotten genes.
I do not like Republicans and I have known the Bush history going back to Vandever and Prescott . I have been registered in both parties from the time I registered in 1968. But the way all the Democrat shills blow out obscenities when their little brains can't pull off an viable argument or think that their own kind of little mean associates will think they are 'cool'. I will eat dog turds before I ever vote for a Democrat ever again. I am sick of the way Democrat shills have uglied  politics. Act like Nazi SA storm troopers, Intimidate dialog with ugly evil verbal pus and hatred. Nasty tools of destruction of the republic . Useful idiots of  a hateful ism projecting your disease on all.
We will see how things go with IRS being protector of the ideology and  health plans. EPA  shutting coal fired power down , How the nukes will hold up when the coal power isn't there for power when it gets cold again. How the farm produce goes feeding the nation at the time the California fields should be kicking in now since their water was cut off.  Also you think we got all that natural gas? Can not pump it with out power. Can not pump water and sewage without power. No pipeline decision till after the 2014 election another punk-ass political (non) move.. No more A-10's for the airforce, No more cruse missiles, no more hellfire missiles, no more Abrams tanks. All Apache gunships in National Guard use. replaced with troop carry Apaches. Most aircraft carrier fleet all in same port at same time right now. What's up with all this people?

You are the wisest person on this entire forum, period.

[Jackstar]

You are the wisest person on this entire forum, period.

qft, thank you for reposting, I had somehow missed this before.

http://clashdaily.com/2014/04/boom-truth-blm-bundy-ranch-dispute-explained/

I hope one day before too late that the people will realize that  the left-right paradigm is  a divide and conquer tactic used by the oligarchs to keep people from really seeing what is going on before we slip farther into the  neo feudal slavery state  and the culling of the useless eaters commences. The name calling of each other does not advance your futile causes. It throws a wedge  and malignant insult and only proves your slavery to division and your inability to dialog and find common unity.

[PB the Deplorable]

All of those new amazing powers!  Like the power to, um, require cleaner air?  And that stunning power to, oh, only put some PCB's into the water...

But the - now 'Climate Disruption' - ideologues aren't really talking about those issues.   Their focus continues to be on carbon taxes, more centralized bureaucratic power, and killing more jobs and industries

Doesn't it give you pause when this 'settled science' is changed up every few years, but the 'solutions' remain the same?

[PB the Deplorable]

Something similar goes on with ObamaCare.  Since Day One all Dems have been 100% behind it, with no criticism allowed whatsoever.  It is to be considered 'Settled Law'.

Every so often along comes Barry to announce various changes and postponements to it - some 30 to 40 to date, at least - many which are significant.  And all the supporters continue on as before, fervently supporting it before and after every change.  The various changes are barely even mentioned in the Media, if they are at all.  They matter not to the settled law crowd - there weren't any problems before the changes, it is to be embraced as before after the changes. 

So which version of this POS do the D's support?  All of them -but only in the days before the next version is announced.  And only Barry is allowed to point out flaws, mention them, or change them.  The rest of us are supposed to be foursquare behind whatever Barry says the law is today.