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Lunger

Quote from: West of the Rockies on May 02, 2014, 07:49:51 AM
Saw this info online... Intriguing:  President Obama would need 15 Benghazi’s to tie the number of dead US Embassy and Consulate personnel under George W. Bush.
Bush â€" 60.
Obama â€" 4.

Too bad its not about the number of dead though, isn't it?

I know, right!  It's about diligent concern for the welfare of... No, it's about basic competence and honor... Er... What's it about again?

aldousburbank

Quote from: West of the Rockies on May 02, 2014, 10:36:43 AM
I know, right!  It's about diligent concern for the welfare of... No, it's about basic competence and honor... Er... What's it about again?
It's about the chillren.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on May 02, 2014, 07:49:51 AM
Saw this info online... Intriguing:  President Obama would need 15 Benghazi’s to tie the number of dead US Embassy and Consulate personnel under George W. Bush.
Bush â€" 60.
Obama â€" 4.

And it would take over 60 Benghazis to equal the number of Marines blown up in their barracks in Beirut in 1983 after Reagan sent them without any clear purpose, not to mention all the casualties from the subsequent invasion of Grenada that was launched on the flimsiest of pretexts to distract people from the Beirut disaster.

onan

fuckin alinski


Lunger

Quote from: West of the Rockies on May 02, 2014, 10:36:43 AM
I know, right!  It's about diligent concern for the welfare of... No, it's about basic competence and honor... Er... What's it about again?

It's about Obama issuing orders for any rescue attempt to stand down and then rolling over and going back to sleep.  Its about Obama not letting the realities of the world interfere with his political narrative.

So, a couple of people got raped and murdered.  Who can blame Obama though?  He had an early tee-time and needed his sleep.

"Now, watch this drive!"  -- George W. Bush

Jackstar

Quote from: Lunger on May 02, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
It's about Obama issuing orders for any rescue attempt to stand down and then rolling over and going back to sleep.  Its about Obama not letting the realities of the world interfere with his political narrative.
Awww hell no. It's about weapon sales.


aldousburbank

Quote from: Jackstar on May 02, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Awww hell no. It's about weapon sales.
Why do you hate capitalism?


Quote from: West of the Rockies on May 02, 2014, 07:49:51 AM
Saw this info online... Intriguing:  President Obama would need 15 Benghazi’s to tie the number of dead US Embassy and Consulate personnel under George W. Bush.
Bush â€" 60.
Obama â€" 4.


Well, ok - it's a dangerous world.  It's not really about numbers. 

Are there any unanswered questions about the 60 killed on Bushes' watch?  Were there months of lies and daily changes in the details to any of those incidents?  Were the facts covered up?  Did Bush get bored, yawn, and tell possible rescuers to stand down before heading off to bed?



Quote from: Lunger on May 02, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
It's about Obama issuing orders for any rescue attempt to stand down and then rolling over and going back to sleep.  Its about Obama not letting the realities of the world interfere with his political narrative.

So, a couple of people got raped and murdered.  Who can blame Obama though?  He had an early tee-time and needed his sleep.



It's worse than that.  The next day he had an early morning - well, early for him - flight to Vegas for another fundraiser.

In addition to everything else, the Obama's have zero class.

Lunger

Quote from: Paper*Boy on May 02, 2014, 11:39:49 PM

Well, ok - it's a dangerous world.  It's not really about numbers. 

Are there any unanswered questions about the 60 killed on Bushes' watch?  Were there months of lies and daily changes in the details to any of those incidents?  Were the facts covered up?  Did Bush get bored, yawn, and tell possible rescuers to stand down before heading off to bed?





It's worse than that.  The next day he had an early morning - well, early for him - flight to Vegas for another fundraiser.

In addition to everything else, the Obama's have zero class.

Yeah, those two sure know how to suck the government tit!



paladin1991

Quote from: Jackstar on May 02, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Awww hell no. It's about weapon sales.
Why do you hate your country?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Jackstar on May 02, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
Awww hell no. It's about weapon sales.
You're kind of close. Guns & ammo sales have been at record levels since 11/08, fed by the right's incessant five year anti-Obama harangue feeding resentment, paranoia and latent bigotry.

aldousburbank

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 03, 2014, 10:02:45 AM
You're kind of close. Guns & ammo sales have been at record levels since 11/08, fed by the right's incessant five year anti-Obama harangue feeding resentment, paranoia and latent bigotry.
...and dab pens.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on May 02, 2014, 11:39:49 PM

Well, ok - it's a dangerous world.  It's not really about numbers. 

Are there any unanswered questions about the 60 killed on Bushes' watch?  Were there months of lies and daily changes in the details to any of those incidents?  Were the facts covered up?  Did Bush get bored, yawn, and tell possible rescuers to stand down before heading off to bed?





It's worse than that.  The next day he had an early morning - well, early for him - flight to Vegas for another fundraiser.

In addition to everything else, the Obama's have zero class.
Oooohwee!  Sho's is powerful tired, massuh!
At least we know Donald Sterling is keeping busy.

No, please, hit the Republi-rewind switch and try explaining how this wasn't more "blackishly-inspired" invective.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 03, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
Oooohwee!  Sho's is powerful tired, massuh!
At least we know Donald Sterling is keeping busy.

No, please, hit the Republi-rewind switch and try explaining how this wasn't more "blackishly-inspired" invective.



Have you ever looked at his daily schedule, put out by the White House?  A typical day is some sort of meeting around 10 or 11am, then a speech at about 3. 



By the way, you want to know why the NAACP gave Sterling an award in the past and was set to do so again?  In spite of his well know bigotry, including losing a discrimination lawsuit involving his slumlord apartments?

Because he is a Liberal in good standing, and that's what really matters to these 'Progressive' front groups like the NAACP.


Now that the heat is on and they've announced they no longer plan to give him the 'Lifetime Achievement' award, maybe they'll give it to Alec Baldwin instead.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on May 03, 2014, 03:03:30 PM
By the way, you want to know why the NAACP gave Sterling an award in the past and was set to do so again?  In spite of his well know bigotry, including losing a discrimination lawsuit involving his slumlord apartments?

Because he is a Liberal in good standing, and that's what really matters to these 'Progressive' front groups like the NAACP.


Now that the heat is on and they've announced they no longer plan to give him the 'Lifetime Achievement' award, maybe they'll give it to Alec Baldwin instead.

1) Even the NAACP admitted the honor was as much about contributions as anything and they have rescinded it in light of his private thoughts going public.  Funny what happens when truth is exposed, huh Papes?

2) I just checked in with "Liberal Central Command" and was notified there is a potential change in groupthink on Sterling; please stay tuned.

3) Baldwin isn't up for NAACP, but I hear GLAAD may have to reconsider...

4) How much do you charge for children's parties and do you supply your own balloons?

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 04, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
1) Even the NAACP admitted the honor was as much about contributions...


Yes, exactly.  It was about his money and who he donates it to.

Speaking of the Libs giving each other awards based on politics instead of substance - it's been a few years, isn't it time for our Dear Leader to be awarded another Nobel Peace Prize?

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on May 04, 2014, 12:22:30 PM

Yes, exactly.  It was about his money and who he donates it to.

Speaking of the Libs giving each other awards based on politics instead of substance - it's been a few years, isn't it time for our Dear Leader to be awarded another Nobel Peace Prize?
Yet another accomplishment of his you can never match.  Damn Kenyan Socialist.

Isn't it time for the CPAC Wrap Around Awards, too?

wr250

Quote from: NowhereInTime on May 04, 2014, 01:51:08 PM
Yet another accomplishment of his you can never match.  Damn Kenyan Socialist.

Isn't it time for the CPAC Wrap Around Awards, too?

interesting that 0bama joins the ranks of these notable peace prize candidates:  stalin, hitler and mussolini.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: wr250 on May 04, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
interesting that 0bama joins the ranks of these notable peace prize candidates:  stalin, hitler and mussolini.
Really?  In what years would those have been?

wr250

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 04, 2014, 04:09:20 PM
Really?  In what years would those have been?

hitler : nominated in 1939
stalin:  nominated in 1945 and 1948
mussolini mentioned on the Nobel web page , but the year of nomination is not mentioned.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/
apparently this is the official nobel  prize web page.

albrecht

Quote from: wr250 on May 04, 2014, 04:15:30 PM
hitler : nominated in 1939
stalin:  nominated in 1945 and 1948
mussolini mentioned on the Nobel web page , but the year of nomination is not mentioned.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/
apparently this is the official nobel  prize web page.
Let us be honest. An award named after the inventor of TnT, in addition to other explosives and armaments certainly is rightfully given to such august a personality of Barack Hussein Obama, or whatever name he is using this decade. It rightfully should've gone to Hitler and Stalin, but, really, they preferred more old school methods of killing people and genocide. Sure bombs are great but where is the fun? And you might miss some folks. Death camps, starvation, regular warfare destruction, etc were the way to go for them. Hence, they were not winners. They had the numbers but it was the execution that was lacking. Whereas winners like Kissinger, Barry O, Arafat, etc liked the more "big bang" options in the world of death by bombings- whether carpet bombings, car bombs, or drone= for peace of course.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: wr250 on May 04, 2014, 04:15:30 PM
hitler : nominated in 1939
stalin:  nominated in 1945 and 1948
mussolini mentioned on the Nobel web page , but the year of nomination is not mentioned.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/
apparently this is the official nobel  prize web page.
They never won.  All it takes is a letter from someone of govt or educational authority to nominate. 

Jackstar

The thing to remember about all these crazy fucknutters, is that they ascended to power in due part to being surrounded by other crazy fucknutters, who all shared and reinforced each others' crazy fucknutter beliefs.

I remember thinking that sterilizing people who did not score highly enough on aptitude tests would maybe be a good idea. However, I was seven. Consider me not, for your Prize!

wr250

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 04, 2014, 04:24:19 PM
They never won.  All it takes is a letter from someone of govt or educational authority to nominate.

i never said they won. they were candidates for the peace prize though.

onan

I find no mention of Hitler receiving the Nobel Peace prize.

There is this:
Quote
The most controversial award of the inter-war period was undoubtedly the one for 1935 to Carl von Ossietzky, the anti-militarist German journalist held by the Nazis in a concentration camp who had become an important international symbol for the struggle against Germany's rearmament. The prospect of a prize to Ossietzky led to the withdrawal from the committee of both Koht, at that time Norway's Foreign Minister, and Mowinckel, who served several times as Prime Minister. This was done to establish a separation between Norway as a state and the Norwegian Nobel Committee. At least Koht was also skeptical of the choice of Ossietzky as a Laureate. This was the first such withdrawal in the committee's history. The Storting then decided that no government minister could serve on the committee while in office. Hitler's reaction to the award was strong. He issued an order under which no German could receive any of the Nobel Prizes.

There is an explanation to the nomination, as well, and it does clarify the point:

QuoteAdolf Hitler was nominated once in 1939. Incredulous though it may seem today, the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, by a member of the Swedish parliament, an E.G.C. Brandt. Apparently though, Brandt never intended the nomination to be taken seriously. Brandt was to all intents and purposes a dedicated antifascist, and had intended this nomination more as a satiric criticism of the current political debate in Sweden.

wr250

Quote from: onan on May 04, 2014, 05:19:58 PM
I find no mention of Hitler receiving the Nobel Peace prize.

because he did not win it. and i never said he did, only he was a candidate for the prize.

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