Random Political Thoughts

[NowhereInTime]

You and your rhetorical questions buddy... Decency decided it would find greener pastures executing virgin girls rather than hang out with Karl. It's a public acceptance thing.

...oh, careful about those "virgin girls" with QK around; his probation officer might have a problem with it...

[West of the Rockies]

Prior to his most recent Whack-a-mole appearance, QK was last seen on March 15th.  Did he pop up after another four-week ban just to poop in the punch bowl (maybe only to receive another ban)?  His visits are now kind of comical and only serve to reinforce our worst assumptions about him.

[Yorkshire pud]

Prior to his most recent Whack-a-mole appearance, QK was last seen on March 15th.  Did he pop up after another four-week ban just to poop in the punch bowl (maybe only to receive another ban)?  His visits are now kind of comical and only serve to reinforce our worst assumptions about him.

Look at it as a standard mate. Just think even at our worst, we're not him. That gives me a warm self satisfied smug grin. It should you too. I propose a toast..

To low standards! Long may they prevail for us to look good.

[FightTheFuture]

A very dear friend of mine is a nurse in Liverpool. The horror stories she tells would curl the toe hair on anybody. This story offers a glimpse into our future if we fail to repeal "Obamacare"

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/14/nhs-nurses-stretch-breaking-point-report

[Yorkshire pud]

A very dear friend of mine is a nurse in Liverpool. The horror stories she tells would curl the toe hair on anybody. This story offers a glimpse into our future if we fail to repeal "Obamacare"

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/14/nhs-nurses-stretch-breaking-point-report

Because what you have now is equitable to all 310 million or so in the USA? That being the case you don't need an affordable health care system then. Phew...close run thing.

[FightTheFuture]

Because what you have now is equitable to all 310 million or so in the USA? That being the case you don't need an affordable health care system then. Phew...close run thing.

You really should stick to watching the Spice Girls. No, really. You should.

[Yorkshire pud]

You really should stick to watching the Spice Girls. No, really. You should.

Hang on. You haven't even been to the UK and you're an expert on our NHS? Brilliant. 

[wr250]

Because what you have now is equitable to all 310 million or so in the USA? That being the case you don't need an affordable health care system then. Phew...close run thing.

[sarcasm]
well then its a good thing we in the US dont have an affordable health care system isnt it.
[/sarcasm]

[FightTheFuture]

Hang on. You haven't even been to the UK and you're an expert on our NHS? Brilliant. 

There`s barely a pond or pasture in your little smelly island kingdom that I haven`t pissed in. In fact, I`m almost tempted to bet that I`ve seen more of your little smelly island kingdom than you!

[Yorkshire pud]

There`s barely a pond or pasture in your little smelly island kingdom that I haven`t pissed in. In fact, I`m almost tempted to bet that I`ve seen more of your little smelly island kingdom than you!

Odd,  all that smell disappeared when you left. But weren't you relieved that you didn't get your ass shot off when you were , erm relieving yourself? For that you should be thankful. 

[albrecht]

Hang on. You haven't even been to the UK and you're an expert on our NHS? Brilliant. 

I didn't know anyone, at least family or close friends, who would set foot in a NHS facility for anything more serious than maybe get a prescription made out or get the referral by their GP. Everyone I knew had private insurance, or just paid, went to private clinics. Especially for things like child birth where they didn't want any mistakes or corners cut. Not sure what the situation is there now but I'm pretty confident that if you have means you avoid NHS as much as possible. Especially with the immigrants bring goodness knows what from all over the world into the system.

Having said that I'm sure the NHS did help a lot of people who in the past had nothing. Because, usually, anything is better than nothing (although with the rise of infections coming from being in the hospital (go in for a hip and come out with an anti-biotic resistant MRSA infection etc) and contra-indications with prescription meds rates are troubling.)

[Lunger]

Because what you have now is equitable to all 310 million or so in the USA? That being the case you don't need an affordable health care system then. Phew...close run thing.

Well, we certainly don't need a more unaffordable one that delivers sub-standard care

[RealCool Daddio]

There`s barely a pond or pasture in your little smelly island kingdom that I haven`t pissed in. In fact, I`m almost tempted to bet that I`ve seen more of your little smelly island kingdom than you!

You are one bitter little fella, aren`t you? Dayum (laughing)

[FightTheFuture]

I didn't know anyone, at least family or close friends, who would set foot in a NHS facility for anything more serious than maybe get a prescription made out or get the referral by their GP. Everyone I knew had private insurance, or just paid, went to private clinics. Especially for things like child birth where they didn't want any mistakes or corners cut. Not sure what the situation is there now but I'm pretty confident that if you have means you avoid NHS as much as possible. Especially with the immigrants bring goodness knows what from all over the world into the system.

Having said that I'm sure the NHS did help a lot of people who in the past had nothing. Because, usually, anything is better than nothing (although with the rise of infections coming from being in the hospital (go in for a hip and come out with an anti-biotic resistant MRSA infection etc) and contra-indications with prescription meds rates are troubling.)

All I`ll say is, I spent several hours in the Royal Liverpool hospital, and the sights that violated my Christian sensibilities, I can never erase from my mind. It was like entering a Medieval torture chamber. I prayed for the poor suffering souls I saw moaning and crying, while waiting to be cared for. IT WAS A f******* HORROR SHOW!

[FightTheFuture]

You are one bitter little fella, aren`t you? Dayum (laughing)

Um, daddy...that`s not very cool. Try to think for yourself, and perhaps you`ll garner a bit more respect than you currently enjoy. No need to thank me

[Yorkshire pud]

All I`ll say is, I spent several hours in the Royal Liverpool hospital, and the sights that violated my Christian sensibilities, I can never erase from my mind. It was like entering a Medieval torture chamber. I prayed for the poor suffering souls I saw moaning and crying, while waiting to be cared for. IT WAS A f******* HORROR SHOW!

I know please I know; You write fiction for horror comics..And I claim my $5.

[FightTheFuture]

I know please I know; You write fiction for horror comics..And I claim my $5.

"I know please I know"? Half the time I can`t even translate your gibberish.

For the love of God, just have some self respect and go away.

[Yorkshire pud]

I didn't know anyone, at least family or close friends, who would set foot in a NHS facility for anything more serious than maybe get a prescription made out or get the referral by their GP. Everyone I knew had private insurance, or just paid, went to private clinics. Especially for things like child birth where they didn't want any mistakes or corners cut. Not sure what the situation is there now but I'm pretty confident that if you have means you avoid NHS as much as possible. Especially with the immigrants bring goodness knows what from all over the world into the system.

I've said it several times before but here goes..

Me, adult usage of NHS including hospitalisation: Bi-lateral inguinal hernia op and ongoing out patient care. Right knee, arthroscopy, removal of cartilage. Since aged 19, physio for slight spine scoliosis (All that is elective, non emergency)  Have good and bad times. Various GP appointments for bits and pieces. A&E various injuries from industrial and domestic accidents.

Mother: Treatment for heart attack, (including by pass)  Pancreatitis, diabetes type 2.

Father: Ambulance and paramedic attendance (several times). Treatment for angina, Heart attack (Twice), triple by pass, duodenal ulcer, cataract ops both eyes.

Ex wife: Treatment for Ankylosing spondylitis, including physio and hydro therapy.

Close friend: Breast cancer, including surgery, ongoing radio therapy, and ongoing out patients appointments...All clear now.

All the above were in the NHS, all being treated by NHS medical staff. All free at the point of need. Doctors trained by the NHS (as are the majority of all doctors in the UK) A&E is NHS only, there is no money in it for the private sector. How much would that little lot have cost the average insurance plan if it had paid out in full? Would ongoing heart conditions be covered for someone working in the local Walmart?



Hey, you don't have to believe what I say, I don't mind. But I have no reason to make things up.

[RealCool Daddio]

Um, daddy...that`s not very cool. Try to think for yourself, and perhaps you`ll garner a bit more respect than you currently enjoy. No need to thank me

Let's see.  You feel it is fair game to ridicule an entire country, it's people, it's culture, and it's heritage and history, with repeated posts mocking the UK.  But when it comes to your silly, silly beliefs, a line is somehow crossed.  To quote you:

The fact is, certain things should remain off-limits during any debate -- heated or otherwise. A person`s sacred religious icons would be one of those things.

Your hypocrisy is boundless, your arguments weak, your intellect highly suspect, and your self inflated sense of standing and respect in this forum imaginary.  You feel free to take lowbrow potshots at anything and anyone you disagree with, but then try to define boundaries of what is off base because if offends YOU - the height of priggish narcism.  Then, when it gets too hot, you retreat into vague and nonsensical threats about the physical punishment you would have inflicted had you been personally confronted with your inadequacies as a human being when you were younger.  You play the part of bully, using Christian piety as a shield for your behaviour, unwittingly sullying the faith you claim to have.

What a sad and bitter little man you are.

Is that better, FtF?

PS: Pud, your country is beautiful, in no small part because FtF is not there. 

[Yorkshire pud]

"I know please I know"? Half the time I can`t even translate your gibberish.

For the love of God, just have some self respect and go away.

You can't translate because you don't understand English. Get someone to help you. As for the rest, you've hurt me deeply now..  ...I thought we could fight that damned future together... What's the plan? Burning calenders?

[FightTheFuture]

Wow. How often does a person get to interact with two fatuous, HS drop-outs at the same time?

When you`re hot; you`re hot.

[PB the Deplorable]

A very dear friend of mine is a nurse in Liverpool. The horror stories she tells would curl the toe hair on anybody. This story offers a glimpse into our future if we fail to repeal "Obamacare"

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/14/nhs-nurses-stretch-breaking-point-report

What, you don't want a 20% VAT/national sales tax and an additional $5 per gallon gasoline tax to pay for what 85% of Americans were already getting either as an employee benefit or through Medicare/Medicaid? 

(And that's if you accept the 85% number.  Included in the remaining 15% were people changing jobs with a short gap between coverage, illegal aliens, and young healthy people who chose not to pay even their portion of the premium on plans offered to them.)

You must hate women.  Or people of color.  Or someone.

[FightTheFuture]

What, you don't want a 20% VAT/national sales tax and an additional $5 per gallon gasoline tax to pay for what 85% of Americans were already getting either as an employee benefit or through Medicare/Medicaid? 

(And that's if you accept the 85% number.  Included in the remaining 15% were people changing jobs with a short gap between coverage, illegal aliens, and young healthy people who chose not to pay even their portion of the premium on plans offered to them.)

You must hate women.  Or people of color.  Or someone.

You know, the shocking bit is, despite the exorbitant tax burden they (the limeys) endure, they still receive sub-standard care in most cases, and sub-human care in a good many other cases. it`s tragic. It really is. My dear friend has cried on my shoulder way too many times, and she believes in that mess!

[ItsOver]

You know, the shocking bit is, despite the exorbitant tax burden they (the limeys) endure, they still receive sub-standard care in most cases, and sub-human care in a good many other cases. it`s tragic. It really is. My dear friend has cried on my shoulder way too many times, and she believes in that mess!

There's always the inherent burden of the non-productive bureaucracy to pay for it.  It's always part of the cost-structure for any behemoth bureaucracy, government or corporate.

[wr250]

You must hate women.  Or people of color.  Or someone.

only people that eat turkee sammmichs slathered with toomeric while hosting coast to coast am, whose first name is george and their last name is not knapp.

[Yorkshire pud]

Wow. How often does a person get to interact with two fatuous, HS drop-outs at the same time?

When you`re hot; you`re hot.

Now now FtF...remember what the good book tells you: turn the other cheek...    You're so hot those who don't know you would swear you're Christian.

[Yorkshire pud]

You know, the shocking bit is, despite the exorbitant tax burden they (the limeys) endure, they still receive sub-standard care in most cases, and sub-human care in a good many other cases. it`s tragic. It really is. My dear friend has cried on my shoulder way too many times, and she believes in that mess!

Oh god, I'm filling up here... Stop it you heartless pig..You're so cruel... Stop bullshitting, you haven't got any friends, let alone female ones.

[albrecht]

All I`ll say is, I spent several hours in the Royal Liverpool hospital, and the sights that violated my Christian sensibilities, I can never erase from my mind. It was like entering a Medieval torture chamber. I prayed for the poor suffering souls I saw moaning and crying, while waiting to be cared for. IT WAS A f******* HORROR SHOW!

You are lucky you didn't get caught up in the "Liverpool Protocol"!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/9635842/Families-left-grieving-and-angry-by-the-Liverpool-Care-Pathway.html

[albrecht]

I've said it several times before but here goes..

Me, adult usage of NHS including hospitalisation: Bi-lateral inguinal hernia op and ongoing out patient care. Right knee, arthroscopy, removal of cartilage. Since aged 19, physio for slight spine scoliosis (All that is elective, non emergency)  Have good and bad times. Various GP appointments for bits and pieces. A&E various injuries from industrial and domestic accidents.

Mother: Treatment for heart attack, (including by pass)  Pancreatitis, diabetes type 2.

Father: Ambulance and paramedic attendance (several times). Treatment for angina, Heart attack (Twice), triple by pass, duodenal ulcer, cataract ops both eyes.

Ex wife: Treatment for Ankylosing spondylitis, including physio and hydro therapy.

Close friend: Breast cancer, including surgery, ongoing radio therapy, and ongoing out patients appointments...All clear now.

All the above were in the NHS, all being treated by NHS medical staff. All free at the point of need. Doctors trained by the NHS (as are the majority of all doctors in the UK) A&E is NHS only, there is no money in it for the private sector. How much would that little lot have cost the average insurance plan if it had paid out in full? Would ongoing heart conditions be covered for someone working in the local Walmart?



Hey, you don't have to believe what I say, I don't mind. But I have no reason to make things up.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying folks I know buy their own private insurance (for example http://www.bupa.co.uk/) or have the private insurance by their employer so they don't need to wait in lines. Consider it like public schools (called private or parochial schools in the US) versus state funded schools (called public schools in the USA). You already pay for them by the high taxes but if you are smart, or able, you try to send you children to better schools and pay out of pocket. So the states, mostly, doesn't mind if rich and middle-class people "opt out" of NHS for some things, or "opt-out" of state-funded schools for their children and use private system. Of course it helps maintain the class system and affords better/speedier care for some but at least the rest get good or some care or some education.

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying folks I know buy their own private insurance (for example http://www.bupa.co.uk/) or have the private insurance by their employer so they don't need to wait in lines. Consider it like public schools (called private or parochial schools in the US) versus state funded schools (called public schools in the USA). You already pay for them by the high taxes but if you are smart, or able, you try to send you children to better schools and pay out of pocket. So the states, mostly, doesn't mind if rich and middle-class people "opt out" of NHS for some things, or "opt-out" of state-funded schools for their children and use private system. Of course it helps maintain the class system and affords better/speedier care for some but at least the rest get good or some care or some education.

Yep.. and it's true for elective surgery paying for private surgery is quicker. But it won't be better, as the surgeon will likely also practice in the NHS. My ex step daughter had private education from 11-16, but she went to state school sixth form until 18.. She didn't feel her private education had given her any advantage, which I'm sure royally pissed off her mother who had paid for it!
But the point as far as NHS is concerned is (despite what F t F might wish us to believe) mostly excellent. My parents have never had to scream for attention or begged to be put down instead of facing the mad axeman masquerading as a doctor, funny that, I haven't seen one either.. It is a victim of it's own success, I concede that, and when I'm king there will be many changes made...drunks won't be treated on a friday saturday or any other night..Appointments will be kept under pain of finger amputation if they're not or a bloody good excuse why not, smokers will not be allowed to sit outside puffing away whilst undergoing treatment hooked up to lines. Money will be directed into disease and illness prevention rather than treatment only. When I'm king.