President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

You're the one who wrote that you say similar things to Deranged Donald in the locker room.  Or something like that.

No, I absolutely said I do not talk about women like that.  I do not approve of that sort of talk in any circumstance.  Still it is not as bad as what HC did to try and coverup Bill's rapes.

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/784726633588592640

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No, I absolutely said I do not talk about women like that.  I do not approve of that sort of talk in any circumstance.  Still it is not as bad as what HC did to try and coverup Bill's rapes.

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/784726633588592640

Unproven allegation.

[21st Century Man]

Unproven allegation.

So you are calling Broaddrick a liar.  Why does this not surprise me.  Disgusting.   Take the speck out of your eye.

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So you are calling Broaddrick a liar.  Why does this not surprise me.  Disgusting.

I'm saying her allegations haven't been tested in court.  Therefore, they are literally unproven allegations.

[136 or 142]

No, I absolutely said I do not talk about women like that.  I do not approve of that sort of talk in any circumstance.  Still it is not as bad as what HC did to try and coverup Bill's rapes.

This is what you wrote:
I'm one of those men who would not talk like that but they are few and far between, that I can tell you.  As for the men that you say you know would not talk like that, have you ever been with a bunch of guys in a locker room?  Or out on the links?  If you were a fly on the wall, you'd probably be surprised.

And
OMG!  I always thought Donald Trump was the epitome of a clean and wholesome guy.  This sort of behavior is absolutely shocking!    NOT!!!  On the one hand, we have a guy who has made some lascivious comments which is something many guys engage in when they are talking with other guy...

If you don't find Donald Trump's behavior 'absolutely shocking' you're completely deranged.

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So you are calling Broaddrick a liar.  Why does this not surprise me.  Disgusting.   Take the speck out of your eye.

You're also wrote the woman who said Donald Trump sexually assaulted her must be lying because she briefly dated him several years later.  Hypocrite.

[mikuthing01]

Hillary Clinton Called Disabled Children ‘f***ing ree-tards,’ Referred to Jews as ‘stupid k***s,’

I am now a Hillary supporter GAS THE SKYPES!!!!!

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-called-disabled-children-fing-ree-tards-referred-to-jews-as-stupid-ks-claims-bills-former-lover/

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Juanita Broddrick is Jane Doe #5, this is her affidavit from December 23, 1998:

4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family's privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.

5. I do not possess any information that could possibly be relevant to the allegations advanced by Paula Corbin Jones or which could lead to admissible evidence in her case. Specifically, I do not have any information to offer regarding a nonconsensual or unwelcome sexual advance by Mr. Clinton, any discussion offer or provision of state or federal employment or advancement in exchange for sexual conduct, or any use of state troopers to procure women for sex. Requiring my testimony at a deposition in this matter would cause unwarranted attorney's fees and costs, disruption to my life and constitute an invasion of my right to privacy. For these reasons, I have asked my attorney to advise Ms. Jones's counsel that there is no truth to the rumors they are pursuing and to provide her counsel with this sworn affidavit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htm

Given what was written previously about that Trump accuser, it's entirely possibly Broaddrick wrote this even though Bill Clinton did rape her.  However, all of the proven claims regarding Bill Clinton's sexual activities are that he was an adulterer who frequently engaged in consensual relationships (whether strictly sexual or more) and did not make unwanted advances against women.  (Monica Lewinsky is more of a gray area due to the power imbalance, but Bill Clinton clearly did not coerce her into the relationship.)

Donald Trump, by his own admission (to the degree that can be believed) admits he routinely sexually assaults women.  As I posted here from a tweet earlier, that's not "locker room banter, that's psychopathic."

[21st Century Man]

I'm saying her allegations haven't been tested in court.  Therefore, they are literally unproven allegations.

Isn't it convenient that the statute of limitations has passed.  You know very well that Broaddrick was pressured for years to keep quiet.  You also know that rape victims have all too often been subject to criticism when they come out.  You're doing that now. She waited years to come forward because she was scared of the Clintons.   You have aligned yourself to a despicable couple who are pigs worse than Trump.

[21st Century Man]

Juanita Broddrick is Jane Doe #5, this is her affidavit from December 23, 1998:

4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family's privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.

5. I do not possess any information that could possibly be relevant to the allegations advanced by Paula Corbin Jones or which could lead to admissible evidence in her case. Specifically, I do not have any information to offer regarding a nonconsensual or unwelcome sexual advance by Mr. Clinton, any discussion offer or provision of state or federal employment or advancement in exchange for sexual conduct, or any use of state troopers to procure women for sex. Requiring my testimony at a deposition in this matter would cause unwarranted attorney's fees and costs, disruption to my life and constitute an invasion of my right to privacy. For these reasons, I have asked my attorney to advise Ms. Jones's counsel that there is no truth to the rumors they are pursuing and to provide her counsel with this sworn affidavit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/affidavit122398.htm

Given what was written previously about that Trump accuser, it's entirely possibly Broaddrick wrote this even though Bill Clinton did rape her.  However, all of the proven claims regarding Bill Clinton's sexual activities are that he was an adulterer who frequently engaged in consensual relationships (whether strictly sexual or more) and did not make unwanted advances against women.  (Monica Lewinsky is more of a gray area due to the power imbalance, but Bill Clinton clearly did not coerce her into the relationship.)

Donald Trump, by his own admission (to the degree that can be believed) admits he routinely sexually assaults women.  As I posted here from a tweet earlier, that's not "locker room banter, that's psychopathic."

I guess you have never been pressured before.  You can post as much of this crap as you like but that does not change the accusation that Clinton raped her and she has been saying as much for years.  You are engaging in coverup tactics for the Clintons which make you as bad as they are.  You are a worse than Trump.

[mikuthing01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8vxIGNO-vo

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You also know that rape victims have all too often been subject to criticism when they come out.  You're doing that now.   You have aligned yourself to a despicable couple who are pigs worse than Trump.

You mean criticism like this:
"This is fucked up.  Trump allegedly tries to rape this lady and afterwards the lady becomes his girlfriend several years later. The Times is going to have to try harder."  - 21st Century Man

I also don't know anything of the sort that she was silenced.  You're going to have to try harder.

[21st Century Man]

You mean criticism like this:
"This is fucked up.  Trump allegedly tries to rape this lady and afterwards the lady becomes his girlfriend several years later. The Times is going to have to try harder."  - 21st Century Man

I also don't know anything of the sort that she was silenced.  You're going to have to try harder.

I stand by that statement.  What of it?  I'm simply making an observation.  I believe the lady if you want to know the truth.  I was just pointing out the  criticism that she is going to get from this story.

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I stand by that statement.  What of it?  I'm simply making an observation.  I believe the lady if you want to know the truth.

Your statement is completely inconsistent with your claim here that you believe her.

[RealCool Daddio]

Here comes Donald.  Ladies, assume grab defense posture!

[21st Century Man]

I could sit and banter with 136 about this stuff but what is the point in debating the Hillshill spin doctor.  He will continue with his talking points and attempts to correct the record.  I've got to run. 

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/684822324227379200

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I could sit and banter with 136 about this stuff but what is the point in debating the Hillshill spin doctor.  He will continue with his talking points and attempts to correct the record.  I've got to run. 

I think you're ending this discussion (not ending it now, I believe you have to leave) but permanently ending it because I've shown you're both a liar and a hypocrite.  And possibly deranged as well.

You do realize my 'correcting the record' means I'm debunking lies?

[Value Of Pi]

I guess you have never been pressured before.  You can post as much of this crap as you like but that does not change the accusation that Clinton raped her and she has been saying as much for years.  You are engaging in coverup tactics for the Clintons which make you as bad as they are.  You are a worse than Trump.

It's a day before the debate, in which Trump reportedly plans to defend himself by making the case that Hillary's husband, together with Hillary, have been worse abusers than he has. That's a losing proposition, as we'll soon see. But here you are going down that same road. Nothing that the Clintons *may* have done can make Trump appear as anything other than what he is.

[21st Century Man]

It's a day before the debate, in which Trump reportedly plans to defend himself by making the case that Hillary's husband, together with Hillary, have been worse abusers than he has. That's a losing proposition, as we'll soon see. But here you are going down that same road. Nothing that the Clintons *may* have done can make Trump appear as anything other than what he is.

The American people are losers with both propositions.  Still Trump has claimed to hold positions closer to mine and for that, he gets my vote.  Bill and Hill have done worse than Trump and their policy positions suck so it a no-brainer for me.

[RealCool Daddio]

It's a day before the debate, in which Trump reportedly plans to defend himself by making the case that Hillary's husband, together with Hillary, have been worse abusers than he. That's a losing proposition, as we'll soon see. But here you are going down that same road. Nothing that the Clintons *may* have done can make Trump appear as anything other than what he is.

It's all going to hell for the Trump campaign, and he is likely going to take the GOP chances in the House and Senate down into the flames with him.  His supporters wanted to blow up the party, and they have succeeded.  Hillary is a deeply flawed candidate, and one of the most disliked in history - and yet the Trump crew have managed to hand her what may be a landslide of epic proportions.

 

[RealCool Daddio]

The American people are losers with both propositions.  Still Trump has claimed to hold positions closer to mine and for that, he gets my vote.  Bill and Hill have done worse than Trump and their policy positions suck so it a no-brainer for me.

That's all fine and dandy, but own it when it all goes pear shaped.  And kiss any claim to the moral high ground goodbye.

[RealCool Daddio]

https://twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209

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It's all going to hell for the Trump campaign, and he is likely going to take the GOP chances in the House and Senate down into the flames with him.  His supporters wanted to blow up the party, and they have succeeded.  Hillary is a deeply flawed candidate, and one of the most disliked in history - and yet the Trump crew have managed to hand her what may be a landslide of epic proportions.

After the first debate Hillary's favorables/unfavorables rose to 45/53 which isn't far from the norm at this stage of a Presidential campaign.  Walter Mondale in 1984 ended up at slightly above 60% unfavorable and, after his second debate performance around this time, Michael Dukakis in 1988 likely briefly dropped below 40%. 

I've not looked up recently on favorable/unfavorable since then, but I'd guess it's not much different from Hillary's numbers. Though, more likely those are the numbers for the losing candidate.

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Isn't it convenient that the statute of limitations has passed.  You know very well that Broaddrick was pressured for years to keep quiet.  You also know that rape victims have all too often been subject to criticism when they come out.  You're doing that now. She waited years to come forward because she was scared of the Clintons.   You have aligned yourself to a despicable couple who are pigs worse than Trump.

So, you think Clarence Thomas should be removed from the Supreme Court?

[Value Of Pi]

https://twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209

I'd bet he's right. It's reality tv, donald. They don't stop recording in-between takes. It's all one big take.

[RealCool Daddio]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/784891126423715840

[RealCool Daddio]

I'd bet he's right. It's reality tv, donald. They don't stop recording in-between takes. It's all one big take.

Good point! 

[Value Of Pi]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/784891126423715840

I got a laugh out of that. Gosh, you really can't make this stuff up.

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From Lyin' Steve on Dave Leip's Atlas Forum:

It really is funny how the alt-right spent years criticizing Democrats for believing all rape allegations, even the most fantastical, without question, and for the Obama administration's dramatic overreach on campus sexual assault and the media's willingness to promote obviously fake stories and statistics, but now as soon as they find out that Trump has actually committed sexual assault and done all manner of awful things, they respond by doing taking the exact same position and applying it to Bill Clinton.  "All rape accusers deserve to be believed."  "How dare you attack and harass someone who claims they were raped, you rape apologist, you must love rape and think it's ok."

Am I the only one who thinks it's ludicrous no matter which side does it?  Juanita Broaddrick and mattress girl are two sides of the same coin, they've both alleged rape against men with absolutely no proof to back it up and considerable circumstantial evidence that they're lying, made absurd, dramatic auxiliary claims (either baseless or provably false) about what happened and what their supposed attackers did, refused to back up their stories in any situation where there are actual consequences to lying, and relentlessly and shamelessly self-promoted to make themselves the face of a "this guy raped me and got away with it" story.  The only difference is that Juanita Broaddrick was rewarded lavishly by the right and mattress girl was rewarded lavishly by the left.

[RealCool Daddio]

After the first debate Hillary's favorables/unfavorables rose to 45/53 which isn't far from the norm at this stage of a Presidential campaign.  Walter Mondale in 1984 ended up at slightly above 60% unfavorable and, after his second debate performance around this time, Michael Dukakis in 1988 likely briefly dropped below 40%. 

I've not looked up recently on favorable/unfavorable since then, but I'd guess it's not much different from Hillary's numbers. Though, more likely those are the numbers for the losing candidate.

Her unfavourables are the worst of any candidate, ever, with one notable exception.  The froggie guys and the rest of the deplorables handed the election to Hillary a while ago, and are too stupid to realize it.